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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Purple Filth on August 13, 2009, 07:31:34 PM

Title: NPD July 09
Post by: Purple Filth on August 13, 2009, 07:31:34 PM
Stolen from GAF

PlayStation 2 108K
PlayStation 3 121.8K
PSP 122.8K
Xbox 360 202.9K
Wii 252.5K
Nintendo DS 538.9K


Wii SPORTS RESORT W/ WII MOTION PLUS WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA July-09 508.2K
NCAA FOOTBALL 10 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS July-09 376.5K
NCAA FOOTBALL 10 PS3 ELECTRONIC ARTS July-09 237.4K
WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD* WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 164.3K
MARIO KART W/ WHEEL WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA April-08 156.6K
MARIO KART DS NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA November-05 132.2K
POKEMON PLATINUM VERSION NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA March-09 116.4K
FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 4 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS June-09 116.4K
NEW SUPER MARIO BROS NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-06 101.8K
EA SPORTS ACTIVE BUNDLE WII ELECTRONIC ARTS May-09 96.8K


Hardware is depressing (sans DS), software too

360 knocking on Wii's door

PS3 finds a new opponent to battle (first GBA now PSP)  :lol :lol

WSR ends up at the top.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 13, 2009, 07:33:51 PM
interesting. 

I thought WSR would be much much higher, considering everyone bought their Wiis for the first one.  but RE5 360 is holding on to the crown for this year so far

and lowell at the hardware.  Wiis are everywhere now and sales have plummeted.  Fad over?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: twerd on August 13, 2009, 07:35:21 PM
Wii Sports Resort :heartbeat
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 13, 2009, 07:37:41 PM
Boring, I want some leaked numbers
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: archie4208 on August 13, 2009, 07:38:49 PM
Seeing the Wii decline so much makes me happy. :)
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 13, 2009, 07:39:59 PM
Seems Wii has reached market saturation, only so many people will play non-games.

Also, YEAR OF THE PSTRIPLE continues unabated.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: twerd on August 13, 2009, 07:42:52 PM
Seeing the Wii decline so much makes me happy. :)

Won't be long now before Nintendo has to close shop.  8)
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Bildi on August 13, 2009, 07:43:16 PM
Wow, the Wii is really declining.  Maybe it will force Nintendo to make some games.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: BlueTsunami on August 13, 2009, 07:43:31 PM
PS3 now outselling PS2?  :smug How long has this been going on
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: archie4208 on August 13, 2009, 07:44:23 PM
Seeing the Wii decline so much makes me happy. :)

Won't be long now before Nintendo has to close shop.  8)

Mario Galaxy 3 in HD and with achievements :drool
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 13, 2009, 07:45:37 PM
whoa, didn't see the PSP outsold the PS3.  fucking hell :lol
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: twerd on August 13, 2009, 07:49:22 PM
Wow, the Wii is really declining.  Maybe it will force Nintendo to make some games.

Wii Fit Plus and New Super Mario Bros. Wii are en route.  :-\
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Purple Filth on August 13, 2009, 07:54:19 PM
Wow, the Wii is really declining.  Maybe it will force Nintendo to make some games.

Wii Fit Plus and New Super Mario Bros. Wii are en route.  :-\


This is could be the one to send it up again.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: CurseoftheGods on August 13, 2009, 08:02:10 PM
Wii price drop imminent.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Oblivion on August 13, 2009, 08:15:20 PM
Wii price drop imminent.

Iwata recently stated 'nope'.  :'(
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2009, 08:16:36 PM
was there news that infamous got a boost in sales?

the only thing I noticed before these numbers was the story that Wii Sports Resort sold 500k, and I guess Sega saying The Conduit sold alright enough for them.

and I'm a bit confused, is that supposed to be bad for the Wii? it's still outselling both PS3 and 360 combined with hardware from 2001
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 13, 2009, 08:44:06 PM
YEAR OF PS3!
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 13, 2009, 08:47:48 PM
The PS3 has tapped out its market potential.  Nine straight months of year over year decreases.

Whether the Slim PS3 is coming out or whether it will accompany a price drop, it would seem pretty unlikely that PS3 sales would explode for no reason.  Killzone 2, SCE's seven figure savior, has flatlined.  LittleBigPlanet is pretty much forgotten.  The only three hail mary longshots that Sony has is God of War 3 (never moved huge numbers of systems in the past), Gran Turismo 5, and the chance of a Slim PS3 being somehow so aesthetically pleasing that people who had no urge to get a PS3 did because of a few cosmetic changes to the hardware.

At this point, it seems like a better idea for Sony to just let the PS3 limp along.  PSP, despite it being Pirate Central, still puts up some good hardware numbers.  We'll see how the PSP Go unfolds, as it seems to be Sony's greatest troll to the industry.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Purple Filth on August 13, 2009, 09:00:53 PM
The PS3 has tapped out its market potential.  Nine straight months of year over year decreases.

Whether the Slim PS3 is coming out or whether it will accompany a price drop, it would seem pretty unlikely that PS3 sales would explode for no reason.  Killzone 2, SCE's seven figure savior, has flatlined.  LittleBigPlanet is pretty much forgotten.  The only three hail mary longshots that Sony has is God of War 3 (never moved huge numbers of systems in the past), Gran Turismo 5, and the chance of a Slim PS3 being somehow so aesthetically pleasing that people who had no urge to get a PS3 did because of a few cosmetic changes to the hardware.

At this point, it seems like a better idea for Sony to just let the PS3 limp along.  PSP, despite it being Pirate Central, still puts up some good hardware numbers.  We'll see how the PSP Go unfolds, as it seems to be Sony's greatest troll to the industry.

I actually agreed with most of this. They have milked 399.99 for all its worth.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 13, 2009, 09:12:18 PM
one thing they need to do is open up the floodgates on their back catalog on psn and keep the prices cheap

they're obviously still bleeding so i don't really see a price cut coming soon, but if they could get that rumored software PS2 BC at least partially running for some of their catalog, and say include a NEWER PS3 exclusive, extra controller, and a download voucher for a handful of PSN/PS1/PS2 games, the $399 might not look like such of a big wallet hit
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2009, 09:36:50 PM
It would still be $400.  I think you're giving the average consumer too much credit.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: tiesto on August 13, 2009, 09:43:53 PM
Some fun games in that top 10, at least. I played the fencing of Wii Sports Resort and it wasn't as horrible as I thought. Still a bit simplistic and I don't see myself buying the game tho...
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: tiesto on August 13, 2009, 09:58:45 PM
Is it the crisis or does this gen seem over sales wise? I thought I heard talk that this gen was supposed to last longer etc., but judging by these sales numbers everything is in decline. Maybe its just the shitty 2009 games line up?

Well the summer is usually a pretty slow time for games in general... I'm sure the crisis doesn't help matters any. Mainly looks like the Wii is slowing down and is in need of a price drop.

Here's July 2007 for instance:

Wii-425,000
360-170,000
PS3-159,000   
PS2-222,000   
DS-405,000   
PSP-214,000
GBA-87,000
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2009, 10:05:35 PM
Is it the crisis or does this gen seem over sales wise? I thought I heard talk that this gen was supposed to last longer etc., but judging by these sales numbers everything is in decline. Maybe its just the shitty 2009 games line up?

Natal
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 13, 2009, 10:34:36 PM
I don't see why PS3 can't put up some solid numbers at $299.

What's the verdict on LBP? Anyone still turn it on? Lots of new worthwhile levels, or is it pretty much tapped out?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 13, 2009, 11:09:10 PM
Huh? It's summer, the numbers are always rough.

Games are selling, publishers are making money. It's not a dark and gloomy picture. For the games retail industry, this has been one of the greatest periods of sustained growth since the industry's inception.

You people. :lol
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 13, 2009, 11:24:04 PM
lol, this gen is not over.  there are 2 pieces of plastic coming out in the next few months, one with the word "Halo" printed on it, the other with "Call of Duty" on it.  They will both sell ridiculously well and give a boost to system sales.   
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2009, 11:25:19 PM
I don't see why PS3 can't put up some solid numbers at $299.

What's the verdict on LBP? Anyone still turn it on? Lots of new worthwhile levels, or is it pretty much tapped out?

there is a goty edition coming that has all dlc on the blu-ray.  I've played it a few times over the summer local co-op and I still enjoy it.  No stellar levels, just a lot of good ones.  Last time it got a boost in quality levels was when they introduced the new gameplay mechanic with the Metal Gear DLC.  People thought they would do that regularly, but so far, that has been the only one.  
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 13, 2009, 11:28:27 PM
How hard is it to find worthwhile stuff? When my friend rented it, we played it and everything was trophy whoring bullshit
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 13, 2009, 11:35:26 PM
you can search by most played and highest rated levels now, but the best way to find good levels is still to experiment.  They still haven't found a good solution to that and it's still mostly the youtube model, except it doesn't really work as well since it's not as simple as clicking a link and watching a two minute video.  The Modnation kart racer game is going to have the same problem.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Brehvolution on August 13, 2009, 11:54:26 PM
I only see myself buying 3 games the rest of the year... Madden, Uncharted 2, and maybe MW2 . Although I've heard good things about Brutal legend and Borderlands could be a wild card. Shadow complex is there too if the price is right.

Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 13, 2009, 11:56:16 PM
I only see myself buying 3 games the rest of the year... Madden, Uncharted 2, and maybe MW2 . Although I've heard good things about Brutal legend and Borderlands could be a wild card. Shadow complex is there too if the price is right.



uh, what do you mean the price is right. it's $15 and always has been. take it or leave it. BITCH
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 14, 2009, 12:13:04 AM
If you look at the sales data from the beginning of the generation until now, I think you'll find that there was a nice lil peak around late 07 early 08.  The industry is down this year compared to last year.  Put your fingers in your ears if you want but I don't see how anyone looking at the sales data could say we're in the salad days.

As for publishers making money, which ones?  From the Q1 results we saw, Nintendo and Activision are making money.  Virtually everyone else that publicly reports their information posted a pretty large loss this quarter.

You're talking to a recent DM-in-training that has run multiple stores for two videogame retailers over the past five years.  The current console generation has been fantastic for retailers.  Yes, there is some contraction in growth that has coincided with the recession, but never before has the industry had this much sales growth. Part of it is Nintendo tapping into a market and part of it is Microsoft figuring out how to properly market milk the hardcore.

This belief that its been an awful time for everyone involved is pretty narrow.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 14, 2009, 12:19:46 AM
:lol @ willco
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 14, 2009, 12:20:53 AM
I never said there was going to be a ten year cycle.  That concept is stupid.

I was more or less responding to Kosma and similar criticism of the current console generation in terms of sales performance.

Predicting the peak of this console generation is also kind of silly.  Wait, you're telling me there is a sales decline that coincides with an economic recession?  That's totally crazy!
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Trent Dole on August 14, 2009, 12:26:21 AM
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Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Brehvolution on August 14, 2009, 12:31:26 AM
I only see myself buying 3 games the rest of the year... Madden, Uncharted 2, and maybe MW2 . Although I've heard good things about Brutal legend and Borderlands could be a wild card. Shadow complex is there too if the price is right.



uh, what do you mean the price is right. it's $15 and always has been. take it or leave it. BITCH

Then the price is right.  :-*
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: dammitmattt on August 14, 2009, 12:41:31 AM
and I'm a bit confused, is that supposed to be bad for the Wii? it's still outselling both PS3 and 360 combined with hardware from 2001

252k > 324k  ??? ??? ???

You missed the newsflash that HD gaming is finally winning again!

Then the price is right.  :-*

Fuck, yeah.  If there EVER was a price that's right, it's this.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:43:29 AM
Sony really needs to drop the price on the ps3. Whether the ps3 slim is real or not, they need to do it before year's end.

If not, they're dumb.

They also need to re-implement bc.

I know so many people who want ps3s, but don't want to get one because of:

1. the price
2. no bc, they still play their ps2s regularly and there's plenty of reason to upgrade towards a bc ps3. There's little benefit to playing a ps2 on an hdtv seeing as you can't upscale with a ps2, ps2's require memory cards and there's the whole better performance thing too. It's just convenient hooking up a wii, ps3 and 360 rather than all that including a ps2.

I think that could go a long way with the hardcore gamers out there that are still on the fence with this gen and still play their ps2.

The fact that Sony still hasn't released ps2 software emulation similarly to how they handled bc in the 80 gig models just makes absolute zero sense to me. They have the tech, why can't they put it in a patch?

I'm a huge Sony fan and they are doing absolutely everything in their power for things to NOT work out for them.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: MCD on August 14, 2009, 12:50:45 AM
cry more huge sony fan.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:52:48 AM
I'm not really crying, as I don't really care about sales or console wars.

I'm just amazed how much Sony has fallen in regards to advertising and actual business sense.

It makes no sense.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 14, 2009, 12:53:05 AM
shoulda bought a 360 himuro. loser.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:54:07 AM
I have a 360 and a ps3.

I haven't turned on either since April/May.

Well, that would be a lie because I watch blu rays and dvds on my ps3, but I haven't turned it on for actual game playing.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 14, 2009, 12:57:08 AM
Thanks for ruining the industry, himuro.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:58:31 AM
You're welcome, buddy.

Anime's dead, why not kill gaming while I'm at it?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Brehvolution on August 14, 2009, 12:59:12 AM
 :lol :lol
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 14, 2009, 01:07:15 AM
Price drop would be bad unless Sony is content on burning through another billion dollars on losses on what will only amount to marginal increases of sales.

Not sure why a price drop would result in a large explosion of sales anyway.  Having the name "PlayStation" on the system is no longer good enough.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 01:11:36 AM
That's why Sony needs the slim on the market badly, to decrease production costs. Sure it won't put them in first place, or even second, but shit. Don't go out like this.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Brehvolution on August 14, 2009, 01:50:23 AM
Sony is fine. Another company too big to fail for Japan's economy.It doesn't matter as I'm a convert. Only dirty poors are shedding the bitter tears.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Rman on August 14, 2009, 01:58:39 AM
I have a 360 and a ps3.

I haven't turned on either since April/May.

Well, that would be a lie because I watch blu rays and dvds on my ps3, but I haven't turned it on for actual game playing.
They're been tons of great gaming on both this summer.  I don't get it.

BlazBlue, Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, Splosion Man, Worms 2, Battlefield '43, Red Faction: Guerilla, Wipeout Fury, Fat Princess, Infamous and on and on.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 02:11:36 AM
zzz. More 60 dollar games.

I don't really play games much these days, or have the initiative to play them.

If I play a game it'll be maybe thirty minutes or an hour. The only game this summer that has hooked me in any way is WoW, and I don't even play that all that often.

I don't want any of those games. I'd rather do something else.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Beezy on August 14, 2009, 02:17:02 AM
SMH Himuro

:piss WoW :piss2
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Flannel Boy on August 14, 2009, 02:17:50 AM
I don't want any of those games. I'd rather do something else.

Walks in the park are relaxing.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 14, 2009, 02:27:01 AM
zzz. More 60 dollar games.

:lol So you are poor. Ok, don't beat around the bush. No wonder you are suddenly into PC gaming.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Rman on August 14, 2009, 02:28:26 AM
That's cool, himuro.  I go through similar periods myself.  Also have you tried gamefly?  It saves me tons of money.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 14, 2009, 02:54:12 AM
I have a 360 and a ps3.

I haven't turned on either since April/May.

Jail does tend to cut into gaming time.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 14, 2009, 06:50:16 AM
Low numbers are expected.  Unlike other escapist outlets, games cost too damn much and are in no way "recession-proof".

WSR fails to move consoles in Japan or America.  Nintendo is avoiding a pricecut by showcasing software, but its all sequels.  There's already been a mario, wii sports, and wii fit game.  They bought in folks.  A sequel isn't going to attract previously disinterested buyers.  Those who think MW2 or ODST are going to move consoles for Microsoft have this faulty reasoning too.

I really think this industry could explode to previously unimaginable levels of success if they could get costs under control and release games at impulse prices. Iphone comes to mind.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 08:02:40 AM
That's cool, himuro.  I go through similar periods myself.  Also have you tried gamefly?  It saves me tons of money.

I really want to join gamefly.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 08:12:47 AM
zzz. More 60 dollar games.

:lol So you are poor. Ok, don't beat around the bush. No wonder you are suddenly into PC gaming.

Well, not really. It's mostly an issue of value. I don't see the point in spending 60 dollars (which is overpriced to begin with) on a game when, for the last few months, I get tired of playing games within just a few minutes. I'll turn it on and turn it off and be all,"What is the point of this?" and then go watch a movie or read a book or something.

The game will likely end up being disappointing or average anyways, so who cares.

Really can't explain it. I love games, so I don't know why I don't feel like playing them.

I think the game that made me feel like this was Metal Gear Solid 4. I played that in April, and like, aside from the Jak trilogy which I scooped up soon after, and WoW, I haven't really been enthusiastic towards games at all. MGS4 sucked balls.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: maxy on August 14, 2009, 08:24:28 AM
(http://assets.vg247.com/current//2009/08/sonycomp.jpg)

http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/13/july-npd-ps3-is-just-getting-warmed-up-says-sony/ (http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/13/july-npd-ps3-is-just-getting-warmed-up-says-sony/)

Sony responds to the NPD,but nothing from NPD is mentioned in PR :lol

About NPD
I don't see this as a bad month,except for Playstation family,but that is business as usual.Sales during summer months were always "low"-200k-ish,spiked by occasional blockbuster software releases.

Nintendo situation shows that price is just one of many things that influence console sales,last gen is a true example of it.
If Wii Fit was at 400k,Wii would be at 500k...
Nintendo problem is that genius things(sales wise) like Wii Fit appear once in 10 years and third party support is mostly very bad,people are noticing things like,where is Red Faction,Saints Row,GTA,Batman,Assassins Creed,etc,etc... Wii...By people i mean people that walk into game stores.
I mean even PSP is getting Ass Creed,GTA,etc...something and Wii the "market leader" is getting nothing.


Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Kestastrophe on August 14, 2009, 09:15:43 AM
Infamous is... uncharted!
except its actually good
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
zzz. More 60 dollar games.

:lol So you are poor. Ok, don't beat around the bush. No wonder you are suddenly into PC gaming.

Well, not really. It's mostly an issue of value. I don't see the point in spending 60 dollars (which is overpriced to begin with) on a game when, for the last few months, I get tired of playing games within just a few minutes. I'll turn it on and turn it off and be all,"What is the point of this?" and then go watch a movie or read a book or something.

The game will likely end up being disappointing or average anyways, so who cares.

Really can't explain it. I love games, so I don't know why I don't feel like playing them.

I think the game that made me feel like this was Metal Gear Solid 4. I played that in April, and like, aside from the Jak trilogy which I scooped up soon after, and WoW, I haven't really been enthusiastic towards games at all. MGS4 sucked balls.

Dude you need to play some shooters ASAP. Gears 2 and L4D did nothing for you? Crysis?

Haven't played Gears 2 or L4D. Only played the Crysis demo. It was alright.

I don't see why shooters will suddenly make me want to play games. When I played Gears 1 I was only able to play it for 30 minutes at a time before getting bored out of my mind.

Then again, Uncharted is fun as hell.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 14, 2009, 10:21:04 AM
zzz. More 60 dollar games.


lol, great response to a post full of $10-15 downloadables




Did you play Gears on casual?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 10:26:06 AM
zzz. More 60 dollar games.


lol, great response to a post full of $10-15 downloadables

zzz

none of those games are on my priority list. I played MvC2 for a year straight like 10 years ago. zzz. Splosion Man looks like Bionic Commando except you replace the arm with the ability to explode. I have played Worms so much I don't really care to play another one. Red Faction could be neat, but not something I'd buy at full price. Infamous could be great, but I'm sure it does nothing to innovate the sandbox genre, plus it's another 60 dollar game that could potentially be a stinker.

Same old, same old. It's not like I am missing anything by not playing them. Either they are sequels, a clone of something I've already played 9999 times, or another rerelease of a game I've put in hundreds of hours into over a decade ago.

Out of that list, the one game that interests me in the least is Fat Princess.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: tiesto on August 14, 2009, 10:27:56 AM
How about Knights in the Nightmare on DS?

Well it's also the summer, I couldn't blame you if you wanted to just get out of the house and spend some time outside rather than play games... I can't find too much I'm interested in either, so that's why I (mostly) stick to older games I have yet to play.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: dammitmattt on August 14, 2009, 10:28:42 AM
http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/13/july-npd-ps3-is-just-getting-warmed-up-says-sony/ (http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/13/july-npd-ps3-is-just-getting-warmed-up-says-sony/)

Sony responds to the NPD,but nothing from NPD is mentioned in PR :lol

About NPD
I don't see this as a bad month,except for Playstation family,but that is business as usual.Sales during summer months were always "low"-200k-ish,spiked by occasional blockbuster software releases.

Nintendo situation shows that price is just one of many things that influence console sales,last gen is a true example of it.
If Wii Fit was at 400k,Wii would be at 500k...
Nintendo problem is that genius things(sales wise) like Wii Fit appear once in 10 years and third party support is mostly very bad,people are noticing things like,where is Red Faction,Saints Row,GTA,Batman,Assassins Creed,etc,etc... Wii...By people i mean people that walk into game stores.
I mean even PSP is getting Ass Creed,GTA,etc...something and Wii the "market leader" is getting nothing.

Hardware and software sales are down YOY compared to July 2007 and July 2008.  The industry is around 15% down YOY for the entire year.  It's a little bad for everyone right now, though obviously it's more bad for Sony and only mildly bad for Nintendo.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 11:29:07 AM
How about Knights in the Nightmare on DS?

How is KitN? I hear good things. I'm really ashamed I still haven't picked up Devil Survivor seeing as how it's an SMT game and all but I still haven't beaten Raidou 2. I don't even feel like playing it.

Thankfully this fall sports more than a few games I'm interested in which I'm pretty sure won't suck or end up feeling like a waste of money and time.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 14, 2009, 11:58:55 AM
zzz. More 60 dollar games.

:lol So you are poor. Ok, don't beat around the bush. No wonder you are suddenly into PC gaming.

Well, not really. It's mostly an issue of value. I don't see the point in spending 60 dollars (which is overpriced to begin with) on a game when, for the last few months, I get tired of playing games within just a few minutes. I'll turn it on and turn it off and be all,"What is the point of this?" and then go watch a movie or read a book or something.

The game will likely end up being disappointing or average anyways, so who cares.

Really can't explain it. I love games, so I don't know why I don't feel like playing them.

I think the game that made me feel like this was Metal Gear Solid 4. I played that in April, and like, aside from the Jak trilogy which I scooped up soon after, and WoW, I haven't really been enthusiastic towards games at all. MGS4 sucked balls.


MGS4 was definitely that bad.  I couldn't believe I had waited years for it. 

and I've been trying to enjoy a lot of the 2009 games and can't.  RE5, SFIV, and BlazBlue were good, but I can't remember any others that I've enjoyed that came out this year.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:04:02 PM
I loved RE5. Haven't bought any other new game this year except Raidou 2 and Broken Sword ds.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 14, 2009, 12:08:03 PM
when all else fails, I play snes games.  I will beat FF6 by the end of the weekend! 
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:13:36 PM
I have been playing FF games all summer. I beat FF1, I was halfway through FF8 and then my save file got corrupt...that really made me not want to play anymore but I'm halfway through FF5 now. I wanna go on to FF6 and then play FF2 after that.

And yeah, I go to 16 or 32 bit when I don't feel like playing games. But it's not working anymore. I even get bored playing through Thunderforce IV.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Beezy on August 14, 2009, 12:14:12 PM
and I've been trying to enjoy a lot of the 2009 games and can't.  RE5, SFIV, and BlazBlue were good, but I can't remember any others that I've enjoyed that came out this year.
Those 3 and Raiden Fighters Aces are the only retail games that I bought so far this year.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:14:52 PM
I didn't know Raiden Fighters Aces came out in the US already? I'm usually on top of things like that. I'm not even on top of my gaming news or releases anymore?

What is happening to me?!
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Beezy on August 14, 2009, 12:16:08 PM
I didn't know Raiden Fighters Aces came out in the US already?
Yeah it came out a few months ago for $20.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 14, 2009, 12:20:03 PM
oh yeah, I bought that too.  I played it a couple times, but I don't think I'm as into shmups as I'd like to be.  I love bullet hell and the insane action, but I don't get hooked to them. 
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:23:00 PM
Was it your first Raiden?

Have you played Raiden II or III? How does RFA compare to them?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:24:40 PM
Borys, I usually beat FF8 in a week or two.

But when my save data got corrupt I was 20 hours in and on disc 2 and I had been playing for a month.

I can't even get into FF8 and it's one of those games I play annually.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: dammitmattt on August 14, 2009, 12:26:16 PM
Borys, I usually beat FF8 in a week or two.

But when my save data got corrupt I was 20 hours in and on disc 2 and I had been playing for a month.

I can't even get into FF8 and it's one of those games I play annually.

You can't get into new games and yet you play PS1 RPGs annually?  Weird.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:31:29 PM
I didn't say I couldn't get into new games. I played RE5 front to back, 1000/1000, whatever. It's not really the fact that a game is old or new, I can't get into them period. I play a game and I start thinking,"What is the point of this? This is a total waste of time." and turn it off after a few minutes.

And the psx is the shit. Favorite system ever.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 14, 2009, 12:36:10 PM
Was it your first Raiden?

Have you played Raiden II or III? How does RFA compare to them?

I played some Raiden 3.  The games in RFA were much more fast paced and intense.  The music is like seizure inducing.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Beezy on August 14, 2009, 12:43:31 PM
Was it your first Raiden?

Have you played Raiden II or III? How does RFA compare to them?
Yeah, my first time playing a Raiden game. I like em.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:45:17 PM
Music is seizure inducing? lol gotta get this. I didn't know it came out, but it's been on my list since it was announced for jp release.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: tiesto on August 14, 2009, 12:48:17 PM
It really seems you need an overall break from gaming, rather than forcing yourself to play games... like I said, do some outdoorsy stuff, ride a bike, go to the park  :-*, hit up the beach and ogle chicks in bikinis, hit up some cool downtown lounges, etc.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
Oh, definitely. Gaming's not really a priority to me. I've been doing that before you suggested it.  :-*
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Rman on August 14, 2009, 01:27:40 PM
Oh, definitely. Gaming's not really a priority to me. I've been doing that before you suggested it.  :-*
So what games are you excited for this year?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 01:38:03 PM
Brutal Legend, Alpha Protocol, Persona psp, Way of the Samurai 3, Demon's Souls, Scribblenauts.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 14, 2009, 01:42:32 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ SIXTY DOLLARGAMES WAHHHHHHHHHHHH WHO CARES
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 01:50:20 PM
Thankfully only Brutal Legend will be 60 dollars.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: archie4208 on August 14, 2009, 01:51:29 PM
You might as well wait a month on Brutal Legend since it is going to flop hardcore.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Rman on August 14, 2009, 01:52:38 PM
You might as well wait a month on Brutal Legend since it is going to flop hardcore.
Poor Tim Schafer.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: maxy on August 14, 2009, 01:53:28 PM
I didn't say I couldn't get into new games. I played RE5 front to back, 1000/1000, whatever. It's not really the fact that a game is old or new, I can't get into them period. I play a game and I start thinking,"What is the point of this? This is a total waste of time." and turn it off after a few minutes.

And the psx is the shit. Favorite system ever.

My solution,have a drink,beer or some strong alcohol will do,combine it for greater effect,always works. :P

If that doesn't work then quit gaming for couple of years,forced entertainment=pointless.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 01:55:38 PM
I don't drink.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2009, 01:56:05 PM
You might as well wait a month on Brutal Legend since it is going to flop hardcore.

I feel bad hearing anything about that game.  They just showed off the multiplayer and I kept wondering "I don't think anyone will even play this mode", then Schafer goes on to say the game was worked on for four years, and they show off the huge tracklist and voice talent that EA paid for.

It will probably do better than Uncharted 2 that is coming out on the same day.  Both games are fucked against the might of WotS3, also on the same day.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: archie4208 on August 14, 2009, 02:05:25 PM
Brutal Legend is just to narrowly focused to be successful.  It's a metal themed Psychonauts.  Sadly, Activision was right.  It would have sold more as a Guitar Hero: Metal Edition. :'(
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 14, 2009, 02:07:41 PM
maybe it will do okay since 75% of the games which were coming out this fall have now been bumped to Q1 2010, and it's also different enough to stand out from the pack that is left
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: tiesto on August 14, 2009, 02:12:14 PM
Only games I'm really interested in are New Super Mario Bros Wii and Nostalgia... but then again there are a bunch of games I still need to catch up on buying/playing...
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2009, 02:13:37 PM
That might be true.  Just among games I'm interested in, only Borderlands (2 weeks before) and GTA4 Gay Tony (a week before) seem like they can popular.  Actually, Gay Tony is shipping on a retail DVD with Lost and the Damned as it's own product, and people might think it's a new GTA game, so who knows.  

Brutal Legend is just to narrowly focused to be successful.  It's a metal themed Psychonauts.  Sadly, Activision was right.  It would have sold more as a Guitar Hero: Metal Edition. :'(

I think it might have a bit more appeal than Psychonuats since it appears to be an action game like God of War/DMC/Ninja Gaiden, but really it's an Action/RTS hybrid, almost like Overlord.

In general I'm a lot less interested in games coming out later this year.  That borecast about budget gaming made me think about how much I waste on games, so most things I'm on the edge about I'm gonna skip.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 14, 2009, 02:15:29 PM
does Jack Black have selling power? I dunno.  Surely it'll do better than psychonauts, but it won't be a break out hit.

Music is seizure inducing? lol gotta get this. I didn't know it came out, but it's been on my list since it was announced for jp release.


definitely.  there's just a fuckload carnage and explosions going on to a 9999bpm techno track.  :lol
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 04:49:27 PM
Uh, what?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 05:15:28 PM
What, it's by Obsidian. I wanna try it out.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 14, 2009, 05:20:47 PM
Only game coming out worth getting for the rest of the year is Fallout 3 GOTY Edition.  2009 has been crap for console games... there HAVE been good games, but I just won't pay $60 for a fighter, that's dumb.  So I've missed lots of quality stuff like SF4 and BlazBlue, but screw paying $60 for 'em.  I really also wanted to check out Sacred 2 since I want a good hack n slash lootfest, but again not for $60.  I'm not as cheap/broke/incarcerated as himumu, either.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 05:29:56 PM
what comes in Fallout 3 goty edition.

Get Titan Quest for pc, triumph.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: tiesto on August 14, 2009, 05:36:28 PM
So, is Scribblenauts gonna actually be good, or is it just one big gimmick? I know GAF hype is off the charts for it.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Rman on August 14, 2009, 05:48:38 PM
what comes in Fallout 3 goty edition.

All four 10 dollar expansions.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 14, 2009, 05:53:26 PM
what comes in Fallout 3 goty edition.


All four 10 dollar expansions.

What he said.  Takes level cap from 20 to 30, too.  Considering that the original Fallout 3 was EASILY worth $60 at release, this is absolutely a no brainer for everybody that doesn't already have the dlc.  I spent probably around 140 hours playing Fallout 3.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: archie4208 on August 14, 2009, 06:00:07 PM
So, is Scribblenauts gonna actually be good, or is it just one big gimmick? I know GAF hype is off the charts for it.

gimmick
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 14, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
So, is Scribblenauts gonna actually be good, or is it just one big gimmick? I know GAF hype is off the charts for it.

take a step back though...the hype is simply because you can write in keyboard cat and have it appear.  who knows if the core gameplay will match up.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 06:05:38 PM
Yeah, I have an interest in Scribblenauts but I'm not sure if the actual game will be good. Still, when it comes to portable games I'm willing to experiment seeing as how they usually retail for 30 dollars.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 06:06:41 PM
what comes in Fallout 3 goty edition.


All four 10 dollar expansions.

What he said.  Takes level cap from 20 to 30, too.  Considering that the original Fallout 3 was EASILY worth $60 at release, this is absolutely a no brainer for everybody that doesn't already have the dlc.  I spent probably around 140 hours playing Fallout 3.

Fallout 3 was my favorite game last year next to Persona 4. I might have to look into this. I was going to just buy the dlc.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: tiesto on August 14, 2009, 06:52:09 PM
The DLC is definitely hit or miss, though... well, I really enjoyed Pitt and Point Lookout, thought Broken Steel was OK a bit overrated, Mothership Zeta was mediocre, and Operation Anchorage was horrible (but the reward, the T-15B Power Armor which doesn't ever degrade was the SHIT)
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 06:53:54 PM
I honestly only want the dlc to raise the level cap and to be able to play the game past the end of the story.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 14, 2009, 07:24:54 PM
I honestly only want the dlc to raise the level cap and to be able to play the game past the end of the story.

Pretty much.  The other stuff will just be gravy.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 14, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
do the areas in the DLC become places you can wander to or all they all outside the main map?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 14, 2009, 07:43:01 PM
I really thought this gen would get dragged out a bit at least by MS and Sony.

They're the ones with the least to gain by dragging this gen out.  Especially Sony.  At any rate, the consumer is ultimately the one that decides if no one else will, and the consumers, they are a-decidin'.

Seriously?

I figured they would want to stretch it out as long as possible because creating new consoles costs hundreds of millions of dollars at least as well as a new profit curve.  Besides, how much money can Sony actually burn through or at least willing to burn through?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 14, 2009, 07:50:12 PM
do the areas in the DLC become places you can wander to or all they all outside the main map?

you have to "enter" them outside the main map, although you can bring any loot you find/steal/earn/kill for back with you to the main wasteland, and broken steel introduces a few new enemies into the main wasteland
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 14, 2009, 07:51:43 PM
The DLC is definitely hit or miss, though... well, I really enjoyed Pitt and Point Lookout, thought Broken Steel was OK a bit overrated, Mothership Zeta was mediocre, and Operation Anchorage was horrible (but the reward, the T-15B Power Armor which doesn't ever degrade was the SHIT)

also gauss rifle, which does knockdown damage and is pretty badass

watching a deathclaw get knocked on his ass through the scope always makes me laugh
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 14, 2009, 08:33:06 PM
Himruo, buy this if you haven't played the Half Life games:  http://store.steampowered.com/sub/715/

$17 for every game in the series

So, is Scribblenauts gonna actually be good, or is it just one big gimmick? I know GAF hype is off the charts for it.

A really cool gimmick.  It's a puzzle game where solutions are whatever you think of.  It gradually gets harder by either making you think in more steps or thinking about different ways to solve it.

The gaf praise is part fanservice, part because it's on a Nintendo system, part the "new/fresh-ness" of it and part people who are genuinely into the idea.  I have seen posts before where people said other than the DS, the Wii is the only system that could handle Scribblenauts.

Only game coming out worth getting for the rest of the year is Fallout 3 GOTY Edition.  2009 has been crap for console games... there HAVE been good games, but I just won't pay $60 for a fighter, that's dumb.  So I've missed lots of quality stuff like SF4 and BlazBlue, but screw paying $60 for 'em.  I really also wanted to check out Sacred 2 since I want a good hack n slash lootfest, but again not for $60.  I'm not as cheap/broke/incarcerated as himumu, either.

Crazy high standards or whatever, that's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 08:35:07 PM
Half Life 1 is a classic.

Half Life 2 was alright.

Blue Shift is decent.

Counterstrike is the shit.

I still haven't played Half Life ep 1 or 2 yet because Mupepe has had my copy of Orange Box for ages. I might as well buy a new one. :lol
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 14, 2009, 08:42:27 PM
Himruo, buy this if you haven't played the Half Life games:  http://store.steampowered.com/sub/715/

$17 for every game in the series

So, is Scribblenauts gonna actually be good, or is it just one big gimmick? I know GAF hype is off the charts for it.

A really cool gimmick.  It's a puzzle game where solutions are whatever you think of.  It gradually gets harder by either making you think in more steps or thinking about different ways to solve it.

The gaf praise is part fanservice, part because it's on a Nintendo system, part the "new/fresh-ness" of it and part people who are genuinely into the idea.  I have seen posts before where people said other than the DS, the Wii is the only system that could handle Scribblenauts.

Only game coming out worth getting for the rest of the year is Fallout 3 GOTY Edition.  2009 has been crap for console games... there HAVE been good games, but I just won't pay $60 for a fighter, that's dumb.  So I've missed lots of quality stuff like SF4 and BlazBlue, but screw paying $60 for 'em.  I really also wanted to check out Sacred 2 since I want a good hack n slash lootfest, but again not for $60.  I'm not as cheap/broke/incarcerated as himumu, either.

Crazy high standards or whatever, that's pretty awesome.

To be fair, a lot of it has to do with the ridonkulous backlog that I have since I didn't get into this gen until last December, unless you count briefly borrowing a Wii so that I could play Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn a while back.  I mean, I've just barely played a little of Gears I, haven't gotten into Gears II, haven't bothered with Halo 3, haven't played either Saints Row, etc etc etc.  Right now I'm playing the hell out of Tales of Vesperia.  As soon as I don't have quality games to get on the cheap I might be more inclined to paying $60 for a game (which I've done a grand total of twice, Fallout 3 and RE5) but right now why frickin' bother?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Meier on August 14, 2009, 10:16:19 PM
No leak yet?  :maf
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Crushed on August 14, 2009, 10:54:45 PM
Half Life 1 is a classic.

Half Life 2 was alright.

Blue Shift is decent.

Counterstrike is the shit.

I still haven't played Half Life ep 1 or 2 yet because Mupepe has had my copy of Orange Box for ages. I might as well buy a new one. :lol

Why the hell would you mention the terrible Blue Shift and not the amazing Opposing Force?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 14, 2009, 10:58:33 PM
Haven't played OF.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Crushed on August 14, 2009, 11:10:32 PM
you poor soul
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Purple Filth on August 14, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
Haven't played OF.

WAT?

Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: chronovore on August 14, 2009, 11:36:57 PM
Going back through GTA Chinatown Wars and still amazed at how much they fit on here. Also curious what they'll do to port it to PSP and actually take advantage of the graphics, adapt to different controls, screen real estate, sound, etc.

Picked up Daxter and Rockband Unplugged for PSP during my trip, and am really excited to try them both.

Thought I'd try and knock off the Lost and the Dead DLC before going on to the stack of waiting games, only to find my disc has a damned radial crack from the hub outward, about 1/3 of the way across the disc. No-read, "disc is dirty" immediately when I try to copy it to the HHD, I am hosed.

The crack is a problem with the media or my 360's optical drive mount, because the disc is otherwise pristine. Anyone know if Rockstar replaces discs?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 15, 2009, 01:52:52 AM
Are you looking for the "What r u playing?" thread?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: treythemovie on August 15, 2009, 03:42:56 AM
I've realized that the only games Nintendo is releasing for the rest of the year is that Metroid Prime collection, the Wiifit expansion pack and NSMB Wii. That's pretty sad. And the only noteworthy 3rd party games are the Rabbids game, the Dead Space spin-off and the new Crystal Chronicles...maybe. Wii 09's lineup is actually going to end up worse the 2008's abysmal lineup.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 15, 2009, 06:48:04 AM
I forgot I bought Chinatown Wars and Rockband Unplugged.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2009, 08:23:59 AM
Are you looking for the "What r u playing?" thread?

Christ, yes. Sorry. Multiple tabs briefly - I think this is my first time to do this here.  :-[
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 15, 2009, 09:07:37 AM
I've realized that the only games Nintendo is releasing for the rest of the year is that Metroid Prime collection, the Wiifit expansion pack and NSMB Wii. That's pretty sad. And the only noteworthy 3rd party games are the Rabbids game, the Dead Space spin-off and the new Crystal Chronicles...maybe. Wii 09's lineup is actually going to end up worse the 2008's abysmal lineup.

I agree, Nintendo is just coasting at this point.  They know that Wii Fit and Mario Kart will sell at least 100,000 copies a month each.  No need for them to really try anymore with this system.  I'm impressed they are even bothering with making Galaxy 2.

NSMB Wii looks painfully unambitious but it will sell a ton nonetheless.  Once Galaxy 2 comes out, I'll probably re-Wii.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 15, 2009, 02:26:59 PM
Just a bump to say that Little King Story BOMBED

Yay!
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 15, 2009, 04:37:30 PM
Just a bump to say that Little King Story BOMBED

Yay!

More like little pedo story kekekek


and what's this about leaked data?  like for individual games?  why wouldn't NPD give that out...is that a subscriber benefit or something?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 15, 2009, 04:53:03 PM
Last month some guy posted a bunch of numbers for games... i posted them on the board when they were taken down
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: twerd on August 15, 2009, 05:01:58 PM
Wii 09's lineup is actually going to end up worse the 2008's abysmal lineup.

You're 100% wrong.

2010 is looking like a pretty massive year for gaming in general, though.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 16, 2009, 12:03:04 AM
(http://www.gamesetwatch.com/top-20-july-2009.png)
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 16, 2009, 10:22:15 AM
Infamous was never destined to be huge anyway.  Just another title put up on the pedestal by Sony fans in hopes that for whatever reason, the 360 sales will grind to a total halt.

Fortunately most Sony fans have all but forgotten the game and are focusing on the Slim and/or price drop, if that thing is actually being made and released here in a few weeks.  The GAF thread has built up many delusions and if this game conference doesn't deliver, that will probably push a few people over the edge of sanity.

Although at $299, PS3 is getting to be more in a price range I wouldn't mind checking out.  Its software isn't that compelling so the primary use would be Blurays.  My price point is $50 more than a cost of a decent Bluray player, $100 more if they add in PS2 BC.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: duckman2000 on August 16, 2009, 10:37:21 AM
Infamous was never destined to be huge anyway.  Just another title put up on the pedestal by Sony fans in hopes that for whatever reason, the 360 sales will grind to a total halt.

I don't recall Infamous having had any system seller hype going for it, not before and certainly not after Killzone 2 failed to light up the charts. Great game for sure, but I'm pretty sure the sales predictions for Infamous were quite cautious. It's a shame that it's being outsold by the genuinely shitty Prototype, but that's not surprising either.

As for the PS3, my biggest concern is that the software end will tank alongside the hardware business if things continue like this. Also, I'm expecting ambition to be tempered quite a bit, and I wonder what the support for games like MAG will look like if it fails to capture a large audience right away.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 16, 2009, 10:40:30 AM
Infamous sold pretty damn good. It's one of the only "PS3 Exclusives" to be in the top 10 two months in a row. It's done around 400k in the US alone, probably another 400-500 worldwide. It's probably even outsold some of Insomniac and Naughty Dogs PS3 games in places. A big win for Sucker Punch.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: duckman2000 on August 16, 2009, 11:24:35 AM
Infamous sold pretty damn good. It's one of the only "PS3 Exclusives" to be in the top 10 two months in a row. It's done around 400k in the US alone, probably another 400-500 worldwide. It's probably even outsold some of Insomniac and Naughty Dogs PS3 games in places. A big win for Sucker Punch.

Note the extensive of "probably", which also means you have no idea if you're right or not.

It had a decent showing in the US and was definitely less of a sales disappointment than a lot of other more hyped Sony titles, but we have absolutely no idea how the game did anywhere else.  It's not even out in Japan.

We may not have straight numbers, but there's better chart placement data available for "PAL" regions than there is for the US. I haven't seen those charts in a while so I don't know how well Infamous did, but I don't understand how you can say that we have no idea how it did elsewhere.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Trent Dole on August 16, 2009, 12:46:29 PM
Although at $299, PS3 is getting to be more in a price range I wouldn't mind checking out.  Its software isn't that compelling so the primary use would be Blurays. 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's only dropping to $349  :shh
[close]
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 16, 2009, 01:18:26 PM
Although at $299, PS3 is getting to be more in a price range I wouldn't mind checking out.  Its software isn't that compelling so the primary use would be Blurays. 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's only dropping to $349  :shh
[close]

 :o

I'm looking forward to the conference although I'll get nothing but 500 errors.

$299 w/ PS2 BC or $249 w/o PS2 BC is probably the price point where I'll bite.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 16, 2009, 01:25:35 PM
Now that Blu-ray decks are cheap and I own one, I will never buy a Sony console.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 16, 2009, 02:55:39 PM
npd threads are boring now that we know the outcome before they're posted  :-\
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: chronovore on August 17, 2009, 01:34:24 AM
Now that Blu-ray decks are cheap and I own one, I will never buy a Sony console.

What's the general price point for one in the US now, from a respectable electronics manufacturer? Over here they're still stupid expensive.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: MCD on August 17, 2009, 01:41:33 AM
you can get a cheap blu ray reader and hook it up to your pc/hdtv.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: chronovore on August 17, 2009, 04:03:50 AM
you can get a cheap blu ray reader and hook it up to your pc/hdtv.

Thanks, that's not a bad idea. But I'm seeing just over US$100 for the internal BD player, and guessing 60+ for the case, and "just under 200" for a partial solution, or 400 (or less if price drop rumors are correct) for a full solution and another game system, and another option for streaming media from my media server or Mac sounds more attractive.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 17, 2009, 04:11:14 PM
Now that Blu-ray decks are cheap and I own one, I will never buy a Sony console.

What's the general price point for one in the US now, from a respectable electronics manufacturer? Over here they're still stupid expensive.

You can pick up some great decks for $150 - $180.  I bought a $98 Magnavox for my room and save for the lack of BD Live and longer loading, it's been rock solid.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: muckhole on August 17, 2009, 04:18:50 PM
That's good to know. I'm on the verge of selling my 60g PS3, and just picking up a stand-alone player.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2009, 04:27:46 PM
How much are you willing to sell your 60 gig ps3 for muckhole? My ps3 isn't in good conditions these days. What condition is it in?
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 17, 2009, 04:28:57 PM
Sell it to me. OR better yet, my birthday is coming up. I will pay ship.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 17, 2009, 04:46:24 PM
If he sells to Himuro, he'd better finalize the deal ASAP if he wants his money by Christmas.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: muckhole on August 17, 2009, 04:46:45 PM
I need maximum cash. I may even ask Willco to represent the sale for me, due to his success of "OBO-Or Better Offer".
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Himu on August 17, 2009, 04:53:19 PM
If he sells to Himuro, he'd better finalize the deal ASAP if he wants his money by Christmas.

Well, if he's smart like every other person I know who has done deals with me, he'll wait for the money to come and then ship.

We're not talking about ichi.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: maxy on August 18, 2009, 07:00:31 AM
Someone posted this in stard collective brainstorming thread on gaf "how to sell Uncharted 2"
Supposed preorder numbers,origin unknown

1 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 X360 627,567
2 Halo 3: ODST X360 605,850
3 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PS3 196,541
4 Batman: Arkham Asylum PS3 108,130
5 Dissidia: Final Fantasy PSP 102,843
6 Assassin's Creed 2 X360 88,402
7 Metroid Prime: Trilogy Wii 87,170
8 Tekken 6 PS3 84,451
9 The Beatles: Rock Band Wii 83,005
10 Batman: Arkham Asylum X360 81,688
11 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 X360 74,730
12 The Beatles: Rock Band X360 73,694
13 Forza Motorsport 3 X360 57,439
14 Dragon Age: Origins X360 56,917
15 Assassin's Creed 2 PS3 52,589
16 Tekken 6 X360 52,423
17 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 PS3 50,307
18 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves PS3 49,903
19 Left 4 Dead 2 X360 47,960
20 The Beatles: Rock Band PS3 46,158

uh,oh
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: demi on August 18, 2009, 10:04:29 AM
L4D2 is nowhere near 50k.... lmao
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Mrbob on August 18, 2009, 10:04:40 AM
Modern Warfare 2 is gonna be a beast.  It will outsell ODST on 360 alone.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: Trent Dole on August 18, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
No way Arkham Asylum has that many more reserves on PS3 than 360 even with the exclusive Joker crap.
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 18, 2009, 06:40:03 PM
Modern Warfare 2 is gonna be a beast.  It will outsell ODST on 360 alone.

Duh
Title: Re: NPD July 09
Post by: cool breeze on August 18, 2009, 06:44:44 PM
No way Arkham Asylum has that many more reserves on PS3 than 360 even with the exclusive Joker crap.

it's not just the Joker stuff, most of the advertising for the game makes it seem like a PS3 game.  Like, on Gametrailers, videos now show the Joker trailer and make it seem like a PS3 exclusive game.  It will most likely end up selling more on the 360, since Ass.Creed was kinda the same way.