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Da fuck is this shit.
Looks like some Final Fantasy Bullshit
Looks pretty awesome.
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Looks pretty awesome.
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He said "this".Looks pretty awesome.
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Sorry I don't read squiggly lines. :wtf
IMO this doesn't look CG at all
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/jettjett/vlcsnap-97270.jpg)
Yeah, it looks like recycled Terminator and Matrix concept art.
Also, could that story be more telegraphed from just a teaser? This looks like Dances with Wolves in space.
Yeah, it looks like recycled Terminator and Matrix concept art.
Also, could that story be more telegraphed from just a teaser? This looks like Dances with Wolves in space.
yep. There's really nothing about this movie that seems appealing aside from Cameron's name being attached.
Guess what, I watched it the first time in 1080p. And a second time.
It looks like CG. Some of the scenery is well done, but the aliens look goofy.
The ending can be seen from a mile away... in the teaser.
Oh, Cameron.
leonardo dies.
This looks awful. If you had told me it was from a crappy Dreamworks animation studio I would have believed you. If you told me it was from James Cameron and he's been working on it for a decade, I would have said "Haha good joke."
one of the four ninja turtles. They show up about halfway in to the picture.
Yeah, it looks like recycled Terminator and Matrix concept art.
Also, could that story be more telegraphed from just a teaser? This looks like Dances with Wolves in space.
yep. There's really nothing about this movie that seems appealing aside from Cameron's name being attached.
It's an epic scifi movie. That alone is enough to get my attention.
one of the four ninja turtles. They show up about halfway in to the picture.
All the hyperbole on both sides, those that say it'll be the most amazing thing ever and the people that now believe it's the worst thing ever made, are absolutely hilarious. Get a grip on reality, people!
All the hyperbole on both sides, those that say it'll be the most amazing thing ever and the people that now believe it's the worst thing ever made, are absolutely hilarious. Get a grip on reality, people!
Nobody is saying this.
... You're just being defensive of something you shouldn't have any attachment to. Unless you're a big Azurik fan.
If you had told me it was from a crappy Dreamworks animation studio I would have believed you.
Waterworld 2.
There's really nothing about this movie that seems appealing
Welp that was terrible.
District 9's bargain bin CG > AVATAR's $200M CG
I really hope the humans win in the end.I've got to imagine some sort of event (perhaps tragic) will make them all realize that they must live together peacefully.
I really hope the humans win in the end.
More like manfest destiny. :-*I really hope the humans win in the end.
We're humans, we're awesome. We have manifest destiny in the stars. :gun
There's a difference between people calling it disappointing and not very good and saying it's the worst thing ever.
Don't get all butthurt because it doesn't look very good.
I really hope the humans win in the end.I've got to imagine some sort of event (perhaps tragic) will make them all realize that they must live together peacefully.
why spend so much on alien CGI if their design is so humanoid? i am disappoint.
Why is it a desirable property for a CG film not to look like CG, anyway? Do we rate other things based on how much they don't appear to be what they in fact are?
Why is it a desirable property for a CG film not to look like CG, anyway? Do we rate other things based on how much they don't appear to be what they in fact are?
Special effects have often been judged by how convincing they are.
And to be fair, this film was hyped as the Second Coming of CG. It was supposed to be a revolutionary marvel that could not have ever been done before.....so for it to look like the sort of CG jerkfest that Georgue Lucas has been doing for a decade is something of a letdown.
People need to watch the 1080p trailer on Apple. 1:30 in, the close up of the female na'vi is amazing.
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Annihilation: http://blog.spout.com/2009/08/20/10-movies-avatar-unfortunately-resembles/
Looks pretty amazing. Hope it makes 2 billion dollars.
People need to watch the 1080p trailer on Apple. 1:30 in, the close up of the female na'vi is amazing.
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ILM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Domain
That's an offscreen grab, you inbred.People need to watch the 1080p trailer on Apple. 1:30 in, the close up of the female na'vi is amazing.
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ILM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital Domain
That's not just cg obviously but yea, it destroys Avatar's simple cg. I can't imagine Cameron honestly thinks he has one upped Jones or Gollum
showed my parents the trailer:
Dad: kind of shrugged and walked away, says "looks interesting"
Mom: says not something she would want to see and it "looks very odd, kind of like Jumanji"
Avatar Fail.
Quote from: DanielPlainviewshowed my parents the trailer:
Dad: kind of shrugged and walked away, says "looks interesting"
Mom: says not something she would want to see and it "looks very odd, kind of like Jumanji"
Avatar Fail.
Ok, I have to try this with my family :lol
Manabyte: I meant there was mo cap involved, same with Gollum. Is there any mo-cap in Avatar?
That's not just cg obviously but yea, it destroys Avatar's simple cg. I can't imagine Cameron honestly thinks he has one upped Jones or Gollum
Um. It's 100% CG. Hat, face, tentacles, everything. The mere fact you thought any of Davy Jones wasn't CG showed how fucking untouchable ILM is when it comes to this stuff and how poorly most other effects houses compare.
This is what Bill Nighy looked like on set:
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:o
Simply amazing stuff then.
i don't understand the obsession with cameron. he's no better than spielberg, he just puts out less movies.
I was under the impression that WETA did most of the effects. Didn't know they only did some stuff here n there
An EB legend gives his 2 cents :rock
http://thefilmstage.com/2009/08/20/dreaming-with-your-eyes-open-the-truth-about-camerons-avatar/
"Apologies in advance for shaking the foundation." :o
It looks like shit
It looks like shit
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I just took a shit and indeed, it looked like Avatar.
It looks like shit
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I just took a shit and indeed, it looked like Avatar.
So I read that Cameron has worked 10 years on this, then I really feel bad for him.
Director James Cameron has said that The Terminator was inspired by two episodes of the 1960s television science fiction series The Outer Limits – "Soldier" and "Demon with the Glass Hand" – both written by science fiction author Harlan Ellison.[3] When Ellison threatened a lawsuit, Terminator production company Hemdale Film Corporation and distributor Orion Pictures gave him an "acknowledgement to the works of" credit on video and cable releases of The Terminator, as well as a cash settlement of an undisclosed amount.[4]
It looks like shit
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I just took a shit and indeed, it looked like Avatar.
So I read that Cameron has worked 10 years on this, then I really feel bad for him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator#ProductionQuoteDirector James Cameron has said that The Terminator was inspired by two episodes of the 1960s television science fiction series The Outer Limits – "Soldier" and "Demon with the Glass Hand" – both written by science fiction author Harlan Ellison.[3] When Ellison threatened a lawsuit, Terminator production company Hemdale Film Corporation and distributor Orion Pictures gave him an "acknowledgement to the works of" credit on video and cable releases of The Terminator, as well as a cash settlement of an undisclosed amount.[4]
So this isn't the first time Cameron has ripped off someone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terminator#ProductionQuoteDirector James Cameron has said that The Terminator was inspired by two episodes of the 1960s television science fiction series The Outer Limits – "Soldier" and "Demon with the Glass Hand" – both written by science fiction author Harlan Ellison.[3] When Ellison threatened a lawsuit, Terminator production company Hemdale Film Corporation and distributor Orion Pictures gave him an "acknowledgement to the works of" credit on video and cable releases of The Terminator, as well as a cash settlement of an undisclosed amount.[4]
So this isn't the first time Cameron has ripped off someone.
Isn't Harlan Ellison pretty notoriously crotchety and litigious?
I saw it and was legitimately excited for it, despite the shitty plot. AND I thought it looked cool.
???
Is there anything worse than the person who tries to invalidate everyone else's opinion by taking the enlightened, and condescending middle ground?
"Look, everyone is wrong, but my opinion is right because I'm not on either side of the spectrum!"
Is there anything worse than the person who tries to invalidate everyone else's opinion by taking the enlightened, and condescending middle ground?
"Look, everyone is wrong, but my opinion is right because I'm not on either side of the spectrum!"
Welcome to my world!
On an unrelated note, Manabyte's slagging off Cameron to protect Lucas' spot in the geek hierarchy, no? I'm assuming this is like the GAF basketball threads where all the arguments are really about Jordan.
What? If anything everyone (well except Great Rumbler/fistfull) is laughing at the trailer, and now Manabyte is doing what he does best: digging up nerd shit, so we can laugh at the trailer even more
Like aways, no one seems to be able to find the middle ground. Some of the effects look below average, but most of the scenery shots (floating mountains, the jungle) and any of the shots of Zoe's character looks pretty amazing and on par with some of the best CG I've ever seen.
Even I said the scenery looks great, but the aliens look like a cartoon.
I can't believe he took a cartoony road for the characters instead of a realistic one. What the FUCK was he thinking?
Uh, like aliens and not like characters rendered for a videogame?
The blue furry aliens ruin everything. Why did he use furries instead of lizardmen? smh
but maybe irl aliens would look like cartoons! You don't know because you haven't seen any! :-\
but maybe irl aliens would look like cartoons! You don't know because you haven't seen any! :-\
The blue furry aliens ruin everything. Why did he use furries instead of lizardmen? smh
Hates gonna hate.
The blue furry aliens ruin everything. Why did he use furries instead of lizardmen? smh
ok, home now.
honestly, until you've seen the visuals 'for real', the trailer just doesn't suffice. in the teaser it's pretty impressive but not mindblowingly awesome.
watch the 15 minute 3d preview (snippets from the film) and your mind will be changed instantly, i promise you. we walked in to a message from james cameron on the screen for half an hour 'are you ready to go to pandora?' or some shit and i'm like 'whatever!" - the clips start, 15 minutes later i'm staring at my mate like 'what the FUCK was that!'.
the CG is amazing. astounding, so life-like that we shot looks at eachother during it like 'are you serious?'. the teaser trailer barely does it justice. sigourney weaver's 'navii' equivalent shared her mannerisms, her facial structure, her quirks, everything. i kept getting nudges from him like 'are you seeing this shit?!' i kept looking at the main guy like 'this is sam worthington in a suit' but it wasn't. he's not real, none of the environments are real but it feels like they are. in one of the featured scenes there's a real life and atmosphere to the environment that takes your breath away. like the opening scene of nausicaa gone nuts.
maybe i'm easier to please, whatever. this shit made me a believer. my mate said tonight, 'it felt like being in a video game'. it sounds like (and will probably be written off as) hyperbole, but in terms of immersive cinema, i've never experienced anything like it. take from that what you will. above all, it's fun. the action scenes they showed us were completely intense, LOUD and fast-paced, just how i love james cameron's stuff.
we're already planning to get the media tickets to first showing then buy tickets to a second one to get completely fucked up and watch it blazed
also - i completely disagree with duckroll, while the first 'real life' scene in the preview was a bit jarring in terms of adjusting your eyes etc, the depth and realism given to later scenes by the 3d was incredible. i refuse to see this film in full first time in anything other than 3d.
like it matters, but heaps of people clapped at the end, including the guy next to me who said to his gf 'i have no idea what this is' before it started and obviously had just got an email from the publicist to attend.
can't wait.
I'm back from AVATAR DAY. I don't think I'll post any details about the footage at all, since it's pointless to discuss any story element when it's just a few random scenes out of context from the movie. Here's how I felt about the quality of the footage though:
- CG is -really- good on the big screen. The models are really detailed, and the animations are great.
- Unfortunately the action scenes look even more like a videogame than in the trailer. It definitely feels like an animated feature or Blizzard FMVs. Clashes with the live action footage quite a bit imo.
- 3D is a gimmick. In fact, I'm almost convinced that I should just watch Avatar in Digital 2D when it's released in December. I don't think I actually enjoy watching 3D features for long, because it feels really gimmicky with the extra perspective, especially with some of the foreground effects that Cameron is using for outdoor scenes. It looks pretty, sure, but it's distracting as hell imo.
- Cameron definitely still has it as a director, the sequences are fantastically composited and directed. Everything feels engaging and alive, and it should be a solid action adventure movie.
Some other notes:
- Turns out the Real-D cinema has been converted into a Dolby 3D one, duckroll loses again. Shitty 3D cinemas in Singapore will probably ensure that I won't catch Avatar in 3D at all, unless I decide to take a vacation in December. :/
- They couldn't fill all the seats for the first screening (I went for the second screening, but had tickets for both) here, and actually started giving out left over tickets to people around the cineplex area. It was pretty sad seeing that. Cameron's hype has failed here.
- No one clapped at the end, no one seemed particularly impressed, and the impression I got while leaving the screening was that the majority of people didn't really feel wowed by the preview. Personally I think it's a dumb idea in retrospect. I just saw a handful of random but complete scenes out of context in the movie, and while it's pretty impressive technically, it's not really enough to care for what I'm seeing at all.
AVATAR DAY rating: 3/5
Just came back from the preview. Very interesting experience. A few things:
- The 3D: I never watched a 3D movie before, so I wasn't sure what to expect. The whole thing goes from "Holyshitwhoa!" to "Can't see shit!" and back. Some of the still shots looks amazing. The first scene with the soldiers sitting at the tables looked pretty damn cool. So did some of the forest scenes.
That said, the action looked horrible. The whole 3D thing was way too fuzzy in the cinema I watched the thing. Maybe we don't have the right glasses, maybe 3D just sucks for action, I don't know, but it didn't sell the whole 3D thing to me.
- The CG: Thanks to the 3D, the CG actually seems to work. The quality of scenes never was good enough to say "that looks fake!"
Also the first reaction from the woman next to me after seeing the navi was a short "Uagh".
Btw the "flower" shot that gets posted here over and over looks damn amazing in 3D.
I just came back from the Avatar Day screening, and both me and my friend who had heard little about the movie (but seen the trailer) came out basically speechless.
The trailer has got NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING on what I've seen. In fact, Duckroll, where are you? C'mere. I have no idea how you think 3D is a gimmick after having seen this. I noticed you saw it in Dolby3D but still I can't believe the difference to RealD is that great. It was mindblowing, for me the 3D just brings everything to life. Even the weakest scene in the trailer, used oh so hilariously as a crappy demotivational poster by Tonay looked much better, but the best scenes were unbelievable. In the scene when both Jake and Grace's AvatarsThe environments are always amazing althoughspoiler (click to show/hide)are in the jungle before he gets attacked, they look incredible, the motion of the face muscles is practically real and they really resemble the actors[close]. I also noticed a bit of lack of sync in Jake's speech right when hespoiler (click to show/hide)in one of the night scenes, when Jake looks around the plants felt a bit artificial[close]. Most scenes are better than anything else I've seen before, and some like the "taming/bonding" scene... I guess you *know* it's not real, and from time to time there's some movement that's not completely right, but it's as good as it gets these days.spoiler (click to show/hide)wakes up in the Avatar body. Heh dunno why I marked this as a spoiler really but...[close]
I can't wait for the movie to come out in December, as far as I'm concerned Cameron has done it again and given his track record the full movie will just confirm it. I wish everyone could see some of these scenes in 3D, perhaps instead of more trailers Cameron/FOX could attach one different scene per month to other movies (in 3D theatres) so everyone could have the same experience I just had. In 2D theatres a trailer with more story exposition is in order.
If next year this doesn't win the FX Oscars (and whatever other FX awards there are) I'm gonna laugh, and then cry, entering a downward spiral of manic-depressive behaviour. Compared to what I saw, there's no Transformers, no Pirates, no Old Pitt, nothing.
Everyone that's doubting the movie, do yourselves a favour and go watch it when it comes out. AND WATCH IT IN 3D if you can. It's bound to be pure win.
Just got back from the 15 minute preview. It is absolutely amazing. There really is no other word to describe the sensory overload that I just witness. I'm going to go into full detail as to what sold me on the world and creatures of Pandora.spoiler (click to show/hide)First off, the 3d is just jaw dropping. Cameron layers everything beautifuly. I've made an effort to watch every 3d movie that has released. And let me say. AVATAR puts all of the others to shame. I'm going to list some of the scenes and how the 3d made it out of this world.
-When Sam Worthington's character is laying in the chamber to transfer into the AVATAR, theres a head shot of him as seen in the trailer. But in 3d, the sense you get from the top of Sam's head down to his feet is just amazing.
-All of the interface that the scientists use. The screens are transparent but the video and images are in 3d. Cameron focus subtly on these screens a few time while going back the the scientist using them.
-When Sam is in the AVATAR for the first time. The two scientists who are wearing an air mask looks down at him. Two things about this scene. One is the masks have like a round layer of 3d that I have never seen before. Two is that when they show a bird eye view of Sam's AVATAR for the first time. You have no idea how lifelike he looks. It just made my jaw drop how real he is.
-The next scene is Sam encounter with a large beast for the first time. This beast looks like a giant rhino with the head of a hammerhead shark. The depth of it as it rears its head back and forth and kicks grass and dirt everywhere. Sam does some amazing stuff with his face that is just captured so lifelike. You also see Ripley's AVATAR for the first time. As soon as I saw her before she even spoke I knew that it was her.
-The scene where Zoe shows up, kills the dog like creatures and throws the fire into the creek. As soon as the fire goes out the world starts to glow. My eyes were overloaded by the amount of soft lights and purple, green, and blue colors. The one part in this scene that made me said "HOLY SHIT" is when Sam's AVATAR goes into the creek to retrieve the torch. When he reaches into the water and picks it up, it just looks so real. Like a real blue arm reached into a real creak that had soft, green, glowing sand.
-If you're not a believer of the lifelike cg by now, than the last scene will drive that message home for you. Sam's AVATAR and some of the other native AVATARS are on up this cliff. The scene opens with them stand on a ledge under a waterfall. This is where your brain will melt. The waterfall looks like real water. The mist from the water fall floats on Zoe's and Sam's hair and the misty droplets are so real on them it's unbelievable.
-A thrilling flight scene ends the 15 minute preview.[close]
Let me put it like this. When I was in there, my friend who is a 40 something year old black man and knows nothing about this movie. I just asked him to come with me since my best friend couldn't make it. He asked me before we watched the preview how long it was going to take. I told him 15 minutes. 15 minutes out of a two and a half hour movie. He says he hates 2 and a half hour movies. When the 15 minutes ended, before I can say a word. He instantly says, 2 and a half hour ain't gonna be enough.
Me and him both went out to the box office and bought our tickets for December 18 midnight showing.
Let me know if you guys have any questions.
I got to see it twice today one after another and while the trailer was nice seeing it in 3D was jaw dropping the biggest thing for me was the 'depth' of the scenes it just felt so alive,the scenes that were shown all stood out my favorite was one of the more stiller scenes where we could take in some of the planets atmosphere and the subtle details such as dust floating in the air it was amazing and pin sharp too.
My biggest problem with 3D films in the past was the blurry look here the scenes popped with sharpness and detail the final scene we were shown was one of the bestspoiler (click to show/hide)the Na'vi go to capture a flying creature for Jake again subtle us of the 3D as the creatures come in to frame and move about and then once he has the beast under control they fly off
After that we have quick shots of some other parts of the film some we've sen in the trailer some we haven't including an awe inspiring shot where it looks like massive is collapsing on top of Jake and some other Na'vi[close]
And the preview got applause for both sittings and if you know UK crowds that's a special feat indeed.
I was also surprised at the audience who came to the showings i was expecting a geek audience but it was a big cross section in there a lot of older ladies as well.
My experience: I wrote this mainly for my facebook friends to read, I didn't know much about Avatar going in, so you guys will probably hate me if i've got anything wrong xD. I've spoilered it all since I explain each scene and i know some may not want to know any of this.spoiler (click to show/hide)I'd not heard much about Avatar before, only that it was supposed to revolutionize cinema as we know it and would use 3D techonology beyond anything done before. I have to say I was rather sceptical of this, I've always thought of 3D as a gimmick for which to see an orange fly at your face or a bunch of M&M's in space, not really adding to the immersion of the film itself. Now i can honestly say though, I've been proven wrong.
The preview started off with a short recording of James Cameron telling us how lucky we are to see this preview and that we were some of the first in the world to see this and he was curtious enough to let us know there were no major spoilers.
The actual preview started off showing the inside of a military base, a guy in a wheelchair is entering what looks like a dining room and tough looking army guy (you can tell he's tough cus he's got scars on his face! :O ) is briefing a bunch of people in this room about how some of them are goining to die on the planet below them (I guess we're already supposed to know they're in space?). It was this opening that really shows that the 3D is something special here, there were a set of tables and as they were all in shot, you could see each person and object in the room was layered. Not obviously sticking out but subtley showing depth to the world that you were viewing.
The next scene was still inside the (what i assumed to be) space station, the guy in the wheelchair is getting into a pod of some sort, Sigourney Weaver is being some sort of scientist doctor person and his helping him in. She refers to him as Jake so I'll happily assume thats his name. He gets in, and then some amazing 3D CGI happens involving their future space computer screens (taken directly from minority report I might add) and he finds that he is now in contoll of a really tall blue alien thing with a tail and huge eyes. he runs off happy that he can now walk and the scene ends. He's going to be in this alien's body for the rest of the film.
Now we find these guys are in a jungle on the planet, Jake is facing off what can only be described as a rhino crossed with a hammerhead shark. The rhinoshark is acting all angry at him, and they charge at each other. Rhinoshark stops and gives up but Jake finds that this is because a black sabertooth tiger is right behind him. So the black sabertooth chases him through the woods and I imagine this gets him seperated from his team as the scene then ends and goes to the next one. This one really showed off the 3D stuff so well. Like in the previous scenes, everything was layered and had a sense of depth but it felt more pronouced as there were so many little details in the jungle. Leaves, flys, grains of dust, everything was on a different plane. It wasn't gimmicky shit flying at me, it was little things just here and there drawing me in even more.
It's now night time and Jake is trying to survive an attack by these dog like animals and isn't doing very well when out of nowhere, he is saved by a blue alien woman who is quite clearly a native of the planet. This scene again shows of more if the subtltey to the 3D effects with more wildlife and everything glowing because it's night time and thats what alien animals do at night...
Now we see him, the woman and two other aliens scaling a clifftop to find some flying dinosaur like creatures with antennea. They get to a small open area where a lot of these animals are resting and Jake begins to shoo them away. Most leave but one holds it's ground, it's this one that Jake jumps onto the back of. It starts to try shaking him off but fails in a rather exiting process, Jake eventually manages to pin it and then he grabs his long pony tail (I hadn't noticed his hair was like that until this bit) and somehow it fuses with the antennae of the animal and it is now tamed and he begins flying around the cliffs with it. This scene showed more of the gimmicky stuff that I don't like the animal was roaring and bareing it's teeth while poking out of the screen. However, there was some really good stuff with the waterfalls, each drop of water was at a different depth so it looked amazing.
After this there was a flash of some split second clips and the the title card. All in all, it was an astounding preview. As stated earlier, i'm not really a fan of 3D but this movie NEEDS to be seen in 3D, all the effects and angles are so geard towards it, the teaser trailer thats currently online does this movie absolutley no justice you HAVE to see this film to believe how good it is. While the story seems cliche, and the effects not so good in 2D, I honestly feel that this movie is going to be remembered as a classic for what it showed in terms of what 3D can be used for.[close]
TLDR: SEE THIS MOVIE WHEN IT OPENS FOR ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY
Just got back from the preview. I'm at a loss for words.
To say that the trailer did not do Avatar justice is a vast understatement. You know that rare feeling you get when you feel like you've witnessed something truly special? Where you sit back in a stunned silence, mouth agape, in total awe? Maybe you don't- these moments don't come along often. That was Avatar. The realisation of how insigifnicant these last thirty pages have been hit me hard and fast. After all the bickering over the quality of the CGI and the questionable design choices, the comparisons to Davey Jones and District 9- none of that will matter once you've seen what I've seen.
Now I can't speak for the quality of the narrative, because very little of that was shown (which I'm grateful for), but the special effects and the sheer beauty of Cameron's vision, well mark my words- it's out of this world. I have no point of reference to compare the world of Pandora to, because quite simply I have never seen anything quite so exquisitely beautiful before in my life. Pandora and it's inhabitants are a sight to behold. The Navi are elegant, beautiful creatures, nothing at all like how they came across in the trailer. Most importantly of all though, they felt alive. The sheer scope of the film is nothing short of awe inspiring. I don't want to go in to much detail for fear of spoiling things, but some of the set pieces were beyond anything I have ever seen commited to celluloid.
After the footage had finished, the audience gave a round of applause. Very little in the way of conversation was had as we all shuffled out of the cinema. Why?
Because people just had their fucking minds blown.
Believe.
I saw this today at the BFI near London Waterloo station.
I can't help but feel disappointed, I really just didn't get that wow factor I was hoping for. It's obviously visually great, but it still just looks very cartoony and just doesn't seem to quite fit. I think a lot of this feeling has a lot to do with the alien design, the big anime eyes etc.. It just doesn't seem to mesh well in my mind.
The whole setting on the alien world just seems a bit, so what?
Some of the shots in the fight scenes were a big let down, it just reminded me of transformer 2 fight scenes, lots of quick images you can't really decipher.
Even the early scenes I saw of the marines, when the commander character was doing a speech, it just seemed very static and un-involving.
All that said, I still think it's going to be a great movie, I can imagine so real epic battle scenes, so here's hoping.
Knowing nothing about this movie and having no emotional ties to the director, I can say with complete honesty that I wasn't impressed at all by either the CG or the artistic direction. It doesn't look realistic. In fact, all of the characters appear as if they are composed of a translucent rubber, which is the effect I see a lot nowadays in CG.
As for the art, two things struck me: I see a race of elf Nightcrawlers that seem to belong in a children's adventure movie contrasted by Sam Action Worthington. Also, I've been spoiled by awesome mech designs in games. That mech design is shit. And were those heliplanes ripped from Halo 3? I'm positive they have some basis in current tech, but it just looks generic.
That said, if it's a good movie, to hell with it. But it doesn't look cool, and it's not cute. So I don't know who they are trying to appeal to. Furries?
EDIT: Also, quoting that gif is embarrassing. It doesn't prove anything. Some of you act as if it's high art.
CHOO CHOOOOOOOOO
Believing Internet hype when geeks get early screenings :lol
:lol
There's no hype train. Internet screenings also claimed that Episode II was fantastic, Watchmen was amazing, etc.
I saw the preview early. I was pretty much stunned.
Yesterday, I did agree to some extent that maybe making the Avatars/Na'vi with make up and plastics etc, and still have actors might be the better option. I now couldn't disagree more.
I'm not going to discuss 'spoilers', the footage isn't really very story heavy at all. But I will say this, the quality of the 3D in the CG was so much better than the 3D in the filmed footage, that if it has to be CG to make the 3D that good, awesome, make everything in CG from now.
I went with a mate who was equally stunned by it.
I hadn't seen 3D before, and I mentioned yesterday that I really didn't know if it was a big deal. It is. It's way more than going from black and white to color, it's probably closer to going from a written script to a movie.
I almost can't imagine going to see a 2D film again.
Saw the preview In IMAX 3D and I'll echo the others' thoughts. In a word, stunning. I had some trouble following 1 action scene but for the most part it was all crystal clear.
I see most every 3D movie that comes out and this obviously is the cream of the crop... I can't imagine how amazing 2.5 hours of it will be.
P.S. Will this get R because of the nippleage?
Came back from the 6pm showing in Alexandria, VA. Wow, just fucking wow. The freakingwas fucking amazing. My eyes were oozing with awe as they were focused liked they've never been. It was am amazing experience and I will definitely be there day 1.spoiler (click to show/hide)beast chase in the forest and almost every other scene[close]
Good show, Mr. Cameron.
The disappointment this movie will unleash when reality strikes people after this hype will make Phantom Menace look fantastic.
Arrrgg...I just wrote a rather long impression of the 15 min preview, but I was logged in for too long and lost everything I wrote... so, here is the greatly condensed version.
The CGI is easily the best CGI I have ever seen, and I absolutley hate CGI because it always looks fake to me. But here, it looks real. THat's really the best way I can describe it. It's just real. Your brain simply accepts that there really are 10 foot tall blue people running through a rainforest being chased by something like a cross between a panther and god knows what.
So, the debate about whether the CGI looks real or fake can end. Seriously, it's a non-issue. The shit looks real.
The 3D is also pretty impressive and really helps create the illusion that all of this crazy shit you're seeing is really there.
The only real issue I had with the preview was the dialogue. I know Cameron is not known for high quality dialogue, but what was shown was below even his usual standards. That said, there wasn't a whole lot of dialogue featured in the preview, so it's a little hard to judge it fairly at this point. And even if the dialogue blows throughout the entire film, well, at least there will be some insane eye candy to help compensate.
Overall, I walked away very impressed and wanting more. The 15 minutes absolutely flew by and I wantedso much more. Oh well, the full movie is just around the corner.
will manabyte even make it to december? odds are one of the suicide threats will come true
A Bug's Life in 3D!:rofl
A Bug's Life in 3D!
QuoteI hadn't seen 3D before, and I mentioned yesterday that I really didn't know if it was a big deal. It is. It's way more than going from black and white to color, it's probably closer to going from a written script to a movie.
From seeing a furry movie trailer :lol
We have a furry lover here :lol
I'm not sensing anything in his posts.
the only thing that looks off are the blue things.
the environments and stuff looks pretty amazing. those floating mountains don't really look CG at all.
I'm not sensing anything in his posts.Odd, I always sense distinguished mentally-challenged in his posts.
now I can't get that Pocahontas song out of my head whenever I see media for this movie
The "Hitler getting mad" meme has been ran into the ground but this particular one got me.
Captain Planet with cats :rofl
The "Hitler getting mad" meme has been ran into the ground but this particular one got me.
Captain Planet with cats :rofl
What about the sex appeal aspect of it? Was the sexiness something James Cameron emphasized with you?
Well, he wanted them to be very beautiful. And I do believe that, at some point, he said something to the effect of...the audience has to want to fuck her. I mean, Jim is very plain in his language.
So, I went, "All right?" So I made something that, I don't know if I really particularly wanted to fuck it, but it was certainly a beautiful alien. He definitely, he wanted it — because he really prefers women that are kind of athletic, and buff and stuff like that, so I, you know, designed something with big hands and feet, a big presence that felt really big and strong.
Movie looks amazing, haters will be owned like always.
Movie looks amazing, haters will be owned like always.
Fanboys will go see it 10 million times like with TDK. Average people will look at the trailer, say WTF?, and go see Sherlock Holmes.
Where can I find the original version of that "Hitler getting mad" clip? Is it from a movie or TV show?
It makes sense though, he does like buff women. And nerds wanting to fuck characters that aren't real is a huge selling point for the nerd community. Can't wait until I can buy my Navi body pillow.
I wonder who he'll meet on set that'll make him dump his wife.
I avoided this thread because I thought it was about that wind-fighting cartoon but that trailer looked kind of boring honestly. It's like the Lord of the Rings smurfified.
I'm sorry but only antisocial weirdos didn't watch Titanic in the theaters.
I'm sorry but only antisocial weirdos didn't watch Titanic in the theaters.
I ain't even seen dat movie cause I ain't no queer, I'M A MAN! :punch
never seen it, probably never will
never seen it, probably never will
http://spoilertv-movies.blogspot.com/2009/10/avatar-new-uhq-promotional-pics.html
Still looks way too CG.
http://spoilertv-movies.blogspot.com/2009/10/avatar-new-uhq-promotional-pics.htmlLooks amazing.
Still looks way too CG.
If you like fake looking CG.
If you like fake looking CG.
Name one cgi heavy movie that looks better than Avatar.
If you like fake looking CG.
Name one cgi heavy movie that looks better than Avatar.
http://www.sibulsky.com/andrew/images/InterviewWithToddVaziriILMPartTwo_14353/large3.jpg
If you like fake looking CG.
Name one cgi heavy movie that looks better than Avatar.
http://www.sibulsky.com/andrew/images/InterviewWithToddVaziriILMPartTwo_14353/large3.jpg
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I love this song. The ending is so powerful and surreal. Screw anyone who rants saying how bad it is. Let them agonize while we rejoice in the magic of Horner and Lewis... and A V A T A R.
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