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Title: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2009, 12:25:49 PM
I mean, I haven't actually directed anything, but it's cool though because I lot of really cool idea for, like, camera angels and whatever. All I need is $150 million a few well-known industry personalities to act as executive producers.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 12:27:23 PM
Camera angels? :lol

Nobody would give you $150 million unless you made something worth giving you that kind of money for. But - hey! - you could always get private investors and make a small flick!
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 24, 2009, 12:29:21 PM
Cool angles, dramatic music, and an exposition scene every 10min :bow

Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 12:30:25 PM
Directors are overrated.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 24, 2009, 12:36:53 PM
willco writes i direct

Our first film will be an emotional sci fi drama set in a world where the north lost the civil war. 1940, Hitler oppresses the Jews while FDR silences the blacks. Yet through this turmoil a relationship between a attractive Jewish woman prisoner and a black slave teach the world that love knows no chains. 
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 12:40:08 PM
I will never write anything produced or directed by anyone here. :lol

Except maybe Eric P. He's so sexy.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2009, 12:41:46 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 24, 2009, 12:29:21 PM
Cool angles, dramatic music, and an exposition scene every 10min :bow



That's what I'm talking about! I mean, I've got, like, IDEAS, man. GOOD ideas. You see these other directors? They don't have ideas like I've got. When I direct, I see VISIONS of what I want to direct and then I make it happen with cameras and computers. That's how I make the magic, the celluloid magic, if you will.

Just a $150 million and I'll make that movie!
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 12:43:26 PM
If you're relatively serious, why don't you shoot some short films and try to find a group of collaborators? Maybe serve as a second-unit director after some experience?
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2009, 12:44:42 PM
Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 12:43:26 PM
If you're relatively serious

I'm not.

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I saw a poster for the upcoming animated movie 9 and, rather than listing any previous movies from the director [mainly because he doesn't have any], I noticed that they just slapped "visionary" in front of his name and called it a day.
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Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 12:45:56 PM
Then you're not truly visionary. :smug
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2009, 12:46:38 PM
I edited my post to add additional details!
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 12:47:47 PM
To be fair, Shane Acker put a lot of time and energy into get a full-length animated feature of "9" made and from a visual standpoint, it looks cool. Heard the movie sucks, though.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Barry Egan on August 24, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
I'm writing a treatment based on this thread.  The plot focuses on the big-shot Hollywood insider William Federman shooting down aspiring newcomers.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 12:53:19 PM
How so? I was supporting his craft until it became apparently it was a "shit on Shane Acker" thread!
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Barry Egan on August 24, 2009, 12:54:16 PM
He had a vision and you just had to tear it all to shreds!  :'(
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 12:55:54 PM
I'm a harsh mistress.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2009, 12:57:15 PM
Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 12:53:19 PM
How so? I was supporting his craft until it became apparently it was a "shit on Shane Acker" thread!

I don't have anything against Shane Acker and I'm sure it wasn't his decision to put that on the poster. I just think it's funny that any up-and-coming director that hasn't really done anything major is suddenly a "visionary" according to movie posters. See, when I think "visionary director", I think Stanley Kubrick or Hitchcock, not some guy that directed a cool short film and is still working in his first full length movie.

Also, Zack Snyder is not a visionary director either, and I happened to like Watchmen.

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He had a vision and you just had to tear it all to shreds!

That camera angle was going to be make me a household name!!
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 01:02:23 PM
It's a good buzzword to sell someone on the public based on talent rather than pedigree. It does get overused.

I don't know how you could argue Snyder isn't visionary, though. Visionary doesn't mean "greatest director ever", but Snyder is legitimately creative in a very visual sense. He storyboards all his stuff by himself, from the ground up. He has a great understanding of the process and what imagery he wants to capture.

If you contend that the adjective is being used to state that said director is ahead of his time, then I can see the issue. This is a Hollywood buzzword to describe a visually compelling, usually young director - not to state that he is shaking the pillars of Hollywood with his talent.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on August 24, 2009, 01:11:48 PM
who are the "top" new/newish directors in hollywood Willco?
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2009, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 01:02:23 PM
It's a good buzzword to sell someone on the public based on talent rather than pedigree. It does get overused.

I don't know how you could argue Snyder isn't visionary, though. Visionary doesn't mean "greatest director ever", but Snyder is legitimately creative in a very visual sense. He storyboards all his stuff by himself, from the ground up. He has a great understanding of the process and what imagery he wants to capture.

If you contend that the adjective is being used to state that said director is ahead of his time, then I can see the issue. This is a Hollywood buzzword to describe a visually compelling, usually young director - not to state that he is shaking the pillars of Hollywood with his talent.

So...you're saying there's a chance?
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 01:36:09 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 24, 2009, 01:11:48 PM
who are the "top" new/newish directors in hollywood Willco?

My personal favorite unknown directors or the "hot, new talent"?  You'd look at guys like Nimród Antal, Eli Roth, Zack Snyder, Neill Blomkamp, etc.

I personally feel that crop is totally underrated and their body of work remains to be seen. Especially when you've got guys like Gondry, Jonez, Wright, etc. that came up behind them and still aren't really household names.

The two most criminally underused directors that I really like, but get no work - Wayne Kramer and Brad Anderson.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Veidt on August 24, 2009, 01:37:53 PM
Make a short-film. I'll write it for you, if you so choose.

Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 01:40:52 PM
I think I'm going to write and produce a short film.

I will get visionary director, Catherine Hardwicke, to direct it!
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Great Rumbler on August 24, 2009, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 01:40:52 PM
I think I'm going to write and produce a short film.

I will get visionary director, Catherine Hardwicke, to direct it!

Sounds like you're on to something here!
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 24, 2009, 03:43:07 PM
Jesus Christ Federwang, the notion that some untalented, barely functioning meathead like ELI ROTH could grow to be a Gondry/Jonze figure will forever more take over for your "SPIDER HYPHEN MAN" apologism as exhibit a in the "this is why you can't believe anything Willco says about movies" argument.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: The Card Cheat on August 24, 2009, 03:43:07 PM
Jesus Christ Federwang, the notion that some untalented, barely functioning meathead like ELI ROTH could grow to be a Gondry/Jonze figure will forever more take over for your "SPIDER HYPHEN MAN" apologism as exhibit a in the "this is why you can't believe anything Willco says about movies" argument.

Maybe if you learned to read you illiterate bafoon, you'd see that I don't really care about that crop - I was responding to who is hot in Hollywood.

Furthermore, I declared that saying their hot and new is ridiculous especially compared to the fact that Gondry and Jonze have come before them and have not attained household name status.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 24, 2009, 03:49:26 PM
You might want to go back and read your post, because you said you "personally feel that crop is totally UNDERRATED"
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 03:49:59 PM
Bah, you're right. I meant overrated. My apologies, Triumph.

I've pretty much gone on record saying all those individuals are overrated, including Snyder (whom I contend is talented, but not a genius). Eli Roth, especially. He's kind of an egomaniac.
Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: Flannel Boy on August 24, 2009, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: Willco on August 24, 2009, 03:49:59 PM
(whom I contend is talented, but not a genius)

This is causing you problems. Recast the clause and replace who/whom with either he or him. If he sounds right, use who; if him sounds right, use whom.

I contend that he is talented.

Title: Re: Can I be a visionary director too?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 24, 2009, 05:24:47 PM
Its the Internet I'll type ur if I want!