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Title: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: ManaByte on August 31, 2009, 01:19:15 PM
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Reworked versions of God of War and God of War II, featuring smoother graphics running at a faster frame rate, hits stores this holiday on a single Blu-ray disc, Sony Computer Entertainment announced this morning.

God of War Collection will feature both Playstation 3 games running at 1280 by 720 resolution and 60 frames per a second. The collection, which will cost $40, will also include trophy support for the games.

"We are excited today to announce God of War Collection," said Scott Rohde, vice president, Worldwide Studios America. "Our fans spoke and we listened; thanks to our partnership with Bluepoint Games, fans and newcomers to the series can experience the epic God of War and God of War II saga in stunning 720p on PS3. This Blu-ray Disc compilation brings Kratos to PS3 even earlier than expected."

The collection comes just months before God of War III is scheduled to hit stores on March 2010 for the Playstation 3.

The idea of a Blu-ray collection of the two PS2 games, which sell used for about $35 total at Gamestop, first came to light in April when a survey leaked about the notion.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: archie4208 on August 31, 2009, 01:19:39 PM
Sounds like a good deal to me. ???
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: demi on August 31, 2009, 01:19:47 PM
Nintendo leading the industry :smug
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: maxy on August 31, 2009, 01:28:53 PM
Interesting,PR never mentions native 720p.Looking forward to screenshots comparisons.
I have a feeling that pixel counters are going to be happy...
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Flannel Boy on August 31, 2009, 01:29:18 PM
I might pick this up (and leave it shrink wrapped) because I've never played either game yet. I don't understand why they won't run in 1080.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: duckman2000 on August 31, 2009, 01:33:02 PM
Sounds hot.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on August 31, 2009, 01:41:09 PM
I might pick this up (and leave it shrink wrapped) because I've never played either game yet. I don't understand why they won't run in 1080.

I don't think it's a matter of that it can't run in 1080p, just that Sony doesn't want to invest the time. Maybe they'd have to rework art assets?
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: maxy on August 31, 2009, 01:50:34 PM
I might pick this up (and leave it shrink wrapped) because I've never played either game yet. I don't understand why they won't run in 1080.
If you have 1080p TV,you always see everything in 1080p ,the only question is what is the source native resolution.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Purple Filth on August 31, 2009, 01:59:38 PM
as someone who haven't played any of those games very interested in this.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 31, 2009, 03:53:04 PM
Console X fans so starved for decent games they are chomping at the bit to buy slightly modified up-ports.

Sad how this sentence applies to 2/3 systems this gen.


Actualy, I'm a neurotic person who gets bothered by small things easily.  So I actually do anticipate rereleases with minor fixes and upgrades.  I just wish Nintendo did a pikmin 1+2 disc like metroid.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 31, 2009, 03:56:53 PM
Console X fans so starved for decent games they are chomping at the bit to buy slightly modified up-ports.

Sad how this sentence applies to 2/3 systems this gen.


Actualy, I'm a neurotic person who gets bothered by small things easily.  So I actually do anticipate rereleases with minor fixes and upgrades.  I just wish Nintendo did a pikmin 1+2 disc like metroid.

You also claim to have enjoyed Wii Music, and have repeatedly referred to it as "a game", so I think we all know to just disregard you at this point.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Beezy on August 31, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
smh
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2009, 03:59:51 PM
Console X fans so starved for decent games they are chomping at the bit to buy slightly modified up-ports.

Sad how this sentence applies to 2/3 systems this gen.


ps3 fans are are starved for decent games? ps3's line up smokes wii and 360's this year.

console gaming this year sucks in general.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: bork on August 31, 2009, 04:18:04 PM
console gaming this year sucks in general.

There's been plenty of great games this year, with more coming.  What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 31, 2009, 04:25:57 PM
Console X fans so starved for decent games they are chomping at the bit to buy slightly modified up-ports.

Sad how this sentence applies to 2/3 systems this gen.


Actualy, I'm a neurotic person who gets bothered by small things easily.  So I actually do anticipate rereleases with minor fixes and upgrades.  I just wish Nintendo did a pikmin 1+2 disc like metroid.

You also claim to have enjoyed Wii Music, and have repeatedly referred to it as "a game", so I think we all know to just disregard you at this point.

And for the fourth or fifth time I'm going to point out you've never played Wii Music.  But you can have your opinion mang, no matter how uninformed it is.  <3 Wii Music <3
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
No one has to play wii music to know it sucks.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: bork on August 31, 2009, 04:27:07 PM
Console X fans so starved for decent games they are chomping at the bit to buy slightly modified up-ports.

Sad how this sentence applies to 2/3 systems this gen.


Actualy, I'm a neurotic person who gets bothered by small things easily.  So I actually do anticipate rereleases with minor fixes and upgrades.  I just wish Nintendo did a pikmin 1+2 disc like metroid.

You also claim to have enjoyed Wii Music, and have repeatedly referred to it as "a game", so I think we all know to just disregard you at this point.

And for the fourth or fifth time I'm going to point out you've never played Wii Music.  But you can have your opinion mang, no matter how uninformed it is.  <3 Wii Music <3

Isn't that an oxymoron?
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: archie4208 on August 31, 2009, 04:27:38 PM
console gaming this year sucks in general.

There's been plenty of great games this year, with more coming.  What are you talking about?

:bow Street Fighter 4
:bow Shadow Complex
:bow Plants vs. Zombies
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: bork on August 31, 2009, 04:31:26 PM
console gaming this year sucks in general.

There's been plenty of great games this year, with more coming.  What are you talking about?

:bow Street Fighter 4
:bow Shadow Complex
:bow Plants vs. Zombies

Not to mention Resident Evil 5, BlazBlue, Red Faction Guerilla, Batman AA, Tenchu 4, Punch-Out, Oboro Muramasa, and others, plus it's not like the year is over-- Modern Warfare 2, Tekken 6, Halo 3 ODST, Uncharted 2, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, and Bayonetta anyone?
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2009, 04:33:35 PM
:bow RE5 :bow2

the only console game i've bought that came out in 2009, aside from Raidou 2
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 31, 2009, 04:35:44 PM
If you guys want to derail your own thread thats OOOKAAY
Yes, you can play Wii Music.  I've done it, many times.  Whimsy was had.

edit:
I thought you said muramusa was mediocre.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2009, 04:36:13 PM
wii music looks turrible. i don't even want to try it.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 31, 2009, 04:42:21 PM
wii music looks turrible. i don't even want to try it.

Its definitely not something I'd recommend. Its not so much a game as an "interactive software" like Electroplankton, but you have alot more control over the final performance and can record your effort.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 31, 2009, 04:42:51 PM
It's pretty obvious that only the autistic can pretend to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: duckman2000 on August 31, 2009, 04:45:21 PM
Also in 2009, :bow Killzone 2. :bow2

Well, certain aspects of it.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: demi on August 31, 2009, 04:47:40 PM
Is Himuro complaining that he's poor again? There's been great games this year. Go back to the welfare line.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 31, 2009, 04:49:05 PM
Well, I think the original point was compilations are for lamers, and I disagree.  I'm enjoying my Prime 1 runthrough with pointer controls.  I'm sure many will value their high rez, smooth framerate GOWs.

And I'm not exactly wanting for games either, but I am losing interest tbh.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Himu on August 31, 2009, 04:49:53 PM
I've spent my hard earned money on better things this year. Like a Republic of Gamerc laptop and an 32 inch hdtv :smug
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Third on August 31, 2009, 04:51:48 PM
I'd rather get raped by someone who has the AIDS than play WiiMusic again.

And this re-release will me mine.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: cool breeze on August 31, 2009, 06:16:31 PM
It's pretty lame that the PSP game isn't included, and if it doesn't eliminate the bad screen-tearing it would be weak, but otherwise it seems great.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: pilonv1 on August 31, 2009, 08:03:11 PM
Console X fans so starved for decent games they are chomping at the bit to buy slightly modified up-ports.

Sad how this sentence applies to 2/3 systems this gen.


indeed
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 31, 2009, 08:03:53 PM
Sounds awesome, I'll probably buy that.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on August 31, 2009, 08:10:21 PM
Give me a similar package with Ico and Shadow of the Colossus and I'll kiss Sony's butt all day long.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: MCD on August 31, 2009, 08:18:12 PM
adding trophies is nice, xbox originals really needed that.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 31, 2009, 08:55:51 PM
was gonna finish 2 at some point, but I will definitely just buy this. 

Even though the combat in these games is pretty busted.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: huckleberry on August 31, 2009, 09:03:06 PM
Give me a similar package with Ico and Shadow of the Colossus and I'll kiss Sony's butt all day long.


This.




and those of you who don't like Shadow of the Colossus can eat a dick.


spoiler (click to show/hide)
:-*  mine preferably.
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Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Human Snorenado on August 31, 2009, 09:03:35 PM
Give me a similar package with Ico and Shadow of the Colossus and I'll kiss Sony's butt all day long.

I don't understand- shooting the games, running over them with car, setting them on fire and then putting it out with a healthy stream of urine can only be satisfying once... CAN'T IT???
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: chronovore on August 31, 2009, 11:57:22 PM
Sony's solution to BC is actually well in place: SELL MOAR PS2 slims.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Bebpo on September 01, 2009, 02:42:44 AM
Considering the framerate for the PS2 games is 60fps I don't like this pr higher framerate bullshit.  I mean I guess it could mean no screen tearing like the PS2 ones are plagued with, but I somehow doubt they'll eliminate the tearing as that would require real programming and not just emulation.

The games will probably be identical to PS2 versions running upscaled.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Rman on September 01, 2009, 03:00:00 AM
Couldn't get into this series at all. 
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: bork on September 01, 2009, 03:12:08 AM
Considering the framerate for the PS2 games is 60fps I don't like this pr higher framerate bullshit.  I mean I guess it could mean no screen tearing like the PS2 ones are plagued with, but I somehow doubt they'll eliminate the tearing as that would require real programming and not just emulation.

The games will probably be identical to PS2 versions running upscaled.

But Trophies!  :hyper :hyper TROPHIES, YEAH!  :hyper :hyper

 :P

Really, it's just a collection of games being repackaged for the PS3.  $20 per game isn't bad.  I don't see why anyone played or owns these games already would care though.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 01, 2009, 03:23:45 AM
Considering the framerate for the PS2 games is 60fps I don't like this pr higher framerate bullshit.  I mean I guess it could mean no screen tearing like the PS2 ones are plagued with, but I somehow doubt they'll eliminate the tearing as that would require real programming and not just emulation.

The games will probably be identical to PS2 versions running upscaled.

But Trophies!  :hyper :hyper TROPHIES, YEAH!  :hyper :hyper

 :P

Really, it's just a collection of games being repackaged for the PS3.  $20 per game isn't bad.  I don't see why anyone played or owns these games already would care though.

The only thing I can think of is the possibility of an exclusive GoW III demo. It's not enough for me to buy it, but I'm also not your average blindly loyal PS3 owner.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Draft on September 01, 2009, 08:50:05 AM
Considering the framerate for the PS2 games is 60fps I don't like this pr higher framerate bullshit.  I mean I guess it could mean no screen tearing like the PS2 ones are plagued with, but I somehow doubt they'll eliminate the tearing as that would require real programming and not just emulation.

The games will probably be identical to PS2 versions running upscaled.
The framerate is supposed to be 60fps, but is often not.

Why wouldn't tearing go away on faster hardware? Tearing is an artifact caused by frame drops.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 01, 2009, 08:54:04 AM
Was GOW 1&2 even supposed to be 60 FPS?  It felt a lot closer to 30 FPS.  Compared to DMC or Gaiden, GOW definitely felt much slower.

Both games also had quite a lot of slowdowns so there actually is quite a lot to improve in the framerate area. 
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Draft on September 01, 2009, 08:56:36 AM
Yes, they are both supposed to be 60fps, but neither one maintains 60 frames with much consistency, with GOW2 being the worst offender.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: dark1x on September 01, 2009, 09:00:55 AM
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Considering the framerate for the PS2 games is 60fps I don't like this pr higher framerate bullshit.
It hardly maintains that.  Sure, you get 60 fps while running around the empty locales most of the time, but whenever the combat heats up, the framerate drops.  It is anything but stable.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 01, 2009, 09:03:19 AM
The framerate in GOW2's last QTE sequence was almost as shit as Heavenly Sword's ending. 
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Chussy Pacer on September 01, 2009, 05:54:35 PM
although I do believe it's nice to have the HD improvements and any other added benefits like framerate improvements, Sony's solution to backwards compatibility of Reselling you upscaled PS2 games really has to make you appreciate the way MSFT went about their BC with Xbox games.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: ManaByte on September 02, 2009, 03:28:51 AM
Look for a Jak collection right before the PS3 Jak is out.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: pilonv1 on September 02, 2009, 03:59:09 AM
Look for a Jak collection right before the PS3 Jak is out.

I'd rather not.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 02, 2009, 01:23:29 PM
Is $40 for two games really a premium?
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Post by: cool breeze on September 02, 2009, 06:11:49 PM
omg look at all the re-releases with God of War and....Riddick.  If you include Wii, DS and PSP as part of this gen, then there might be more of a case, but there isn't much for next gen games.  Hell, if you did that, the GBA would still be the biggest offender.  Thing didn't even have a proper new Mario game.

the GoW bundle is a good deal, especially if you don't own any of the older games.  Each game still goes for $20 greatest hits price, and basic math lets us know that $20 + $20 = $40, which is the price of this bundle.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: demi on September 02, 2009, 06:14:43 PM
Riddick hardly counts as a re-release.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: cool breeze on September 02, 2009, 06:17:51 PM
FUCKING GENERATION WITH ALL THE RE-RELEASES AGGGGGHHHHHH  :maf
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: demi on September 02, 2009, 06:22:05 PM
Blame nintendo LOSER
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 02, 2009, 07:29:32 PM
I suspect back when Square talked about "remaking" FF7-9 for PS2, this is the sort of thing they probably had in mind.  Which would've been a good thing honestly, just removing the load times from FF9 would probably take it up a full point or two on my 0-10 scale.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 02, 2009, 08:55:45 PM
around 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Third on September 02, 2009, 10:05:07 PM
I don't think re-releasing a game hinders a new project.

This is just an enhanced HD port. Not a remake. I don't think they've spent many months and lots of cash on it...
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 02, 2009, 11:23:49 PM
Apparently, the ports will only have 2xAA, despite running at just 720p.  PS3 is such an overrated POS. 
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: pilonv1 on September 02, 2009, 11:36:54 PM
probably looks the same as playing it on a 60gb BC version
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Lucretius on September 03, 2009, 03:59:09 AM
Sure I can watch my Blade Runner DVD on my PS3, but I prefer to watch it on blu-ray.

I think this is a good idea for the industry, and I own a 60GB launch PS3.  It's not a new idea really (Resident Evil 2, 3, and CV ports to GameCube, etc).  I think it's analogous to buying the same movie on VHS, LaserDisc, DVD, and then Blu-ray.  If you like the movie enough to watch it repeatedly, you want it to look as good as it can.  Same with games.  I don't necessarily want total remakes of all my old favorite games; remastered visuals and audio would suffice for most.  FF VII really could use a total remake.  FF VIII and IX however would be just fine with higher res in game graphics, uncompressed FMV, shorter load times, and enhanced audio.
I have a hardware backwards compatible PS3 and still have my copies of GoW I and II (I still enjoy playing from time to time).  So I don't NEED to buy this new set to play the games.  However, if it's a true remastering, I'll consider upgrading to the PS3 collection because I love the games and would like to see them look as good as they can.  Of course I'll wait for the inevitable comparisons of the blu-ray version with the original versions before I consider buying.  It will have to offer a substantially better visual experience than playing my PS2 discs upscaled (and I couldn't care less about Trophies), otherwise I'm better off playing them on a PC via emulation.
Title: Re: Sony's solution to backwards compatibility - Resell you upscaled PS2 games!
Post by: Yeti on September 03, 2009, 01:07:31 PM
I guess this is as good of a place to ask this as any.

I just got a new HDTV and a PS3 for Blu-Ray playing. I was playing around on the PS3 internet thing and browsing youtube, but for some reason I'm not seeing an option to watch youtube videos in HD, even though there is an option for that when I view the page on my regular old computer. How do I view youtube in HD from my PS3?