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Title: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 01, 2009, 07:27:00 PM
Besides lego goat ass...
(http://i31.tinypic.com/nnnpl2.jpg)


Everyone on gaf raves that the DS is godly, but I'm either missing the good games or I've played them all.

I've done Bangai-O, Devil Survivor, the Castlevania games, Ninja Gaiden, Planet Puzzle League, Mario Kart, NSMB, mario 64, Electroplankton, Chrono Trigger, all 4 ace attorney games, trauma center, ketsui, Osu 1 and 2, GTA, etc.

Didn't like any of the S-E titles...FF3, 4, DQ games, etc.

I'm not into archaic RPGs or rogue-likes.

Have I pretty much exhausted my options? 

also, I'm thinking of selling my near perfect onyx DS...before I move on, I want to know if I've missed anything.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Third on September 01, 2009, 07:30:23 PM
Never played Prof Layton?
Pretty good stuff.

But if you're not interested, sell your DS. Seems you;ve played all the good games already.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: demi on September 01, 2009, 07:31:44 PM
TWEWY
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: tiesto on September 01, 2009, 07:35:11 PM
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume, Kirby: Canvas Curse, Meteos, Etrian Odyssey 1+2, NY Times Crosswords
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: drew on September 01, 2009, 07:39:40 PM
youre missing the receipt from when you traded it in for cash at gamestop
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2009, 07:40:47 PM
Everyone on gaf praises ds as godly, and while it's a really good system, people claiming it's on par with ps2 or prevous consoles likes psx, snes, saturn, genesis, whatever really grinds my gears for some reason. There is endless hyperbole when it comes to both ds and psp at gaf, but ds more so. That said, they're still better than all three current gen consoles, that's a fact.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 01, 2009, 07:43:18 PM
Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume, Kirby: Canvas Curse, Meteos, Etrian Odyssey 1+2, NY Times Crosswords

didn't like, liked, liked, not my kind of games, not into crosswords

I did play TWEWY - it was awesome.  Forgot about that one!

youre missing the receipt from when you traded it in for cash at gamestop

They give you $30 in credit there...I'd rather sell it for like $70 online, giving someone a good deal and coming out ahead.

Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: drew on September 01, 2009, 07:46:59 PM
the ds is the worst handheld ever made, and is a worse videogame product than the wii

its only good if youre a weaboo and like cutesy wutesy wittle twoodee shitty sprites
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2009, 07:47:20 PM
the ds is the worst handheld ever made, and is a worse videogame product than the wii

its only good if youre a weaboo and like cutesy wutesy wittle twoodee shitty sprites

Um no

but you're right there's a ridiculous amount of story based Japan games on the ds. This is why I prefer the psp: pick up and play action games are its exertise.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Bebpo on September 01, 2009, 07:48:01 PM
DS is a good system outside it being a portable.

Will still play a good, but not great, console HD game over a great portable game anytime I have gaming time.  I only play portable systems in the bathroom anymore or on flights/trains.

:piss portable gaming :piss2
:bow console gaming that isn't the Wii :bow2

Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 01, 2009, 07:48:41 PM
the ds is the worst handheld ever made, and is a worse videogame product than the wii

its only good if youre a weaboo and like cutesy wutesy wittle twoodee shitty sprites

NO DREWSY SHU TUP SHU TUP DREWSY  DO U EVEN KNOW THAT KINGDOM HEARTS IS COMING OUT?  IT'S LIKE DISNEY IN DARK EDGY WORLDS
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 01, 2009, 07:49:00 PM
My favorites are TWEWY, Shiren the Wanderer and Knights in the Nightmare.  I guess you've played the first, and the second falls under a genre you dislike ( :( ) so, uh, try Knights in the Nightmare?  Other than that, Lunar Knights is pretty good, then in a couple weeks there's the remake of SaGa 2  :hyper
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2009, 07:49:02 PM
Bebpo, how do you feel now that you predicted the fate of japan gaming accurately
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2009, 07:49:46 PM
then in a couple weeks there's the remake of SaGa 2  :hyper

You're getting the japanese version? When is it going to be available in English?
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 01, 2009, 07:50:55 PM
My favorites are TWEWY, Shiren the Wanderer and Knights in the Nightmare.  I guess you've played the first, and the second falls under a genre you dislike ( :( ) so, uh, try Knights in the Nightmare?  Other than that, Lunar Knights is pretty good, then in a couple weeks there's the remake of SaGa 2  :hyper

I played Shiren for a bit and thought it was pretty decent, though I'm not compelled to play it anymore.  I think I mixed up rogue-likes and wizardry-likes (is that a genre?)...first person rpgs
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2009, 07:52:40 PM
Well Etrian blends Wizardry with a rogue like.

Just call em first person rpgs.

But not all first person rpgs are Wizardry clones.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 01, 2009, 07:54:10 PM
Yeah, I didn't see the big deal about Etrian Odyssey either.  Shiren is awesome because of all the wacky random shit that can happen, plus great music.

They haven't announced a NA release date for SaGa 2 (if there will even be one).
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 01, 2009, 07:55:24 PM
I really hope we get Saga 2.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: cool breeze on September 01, 2009, 07:59:59 PM
DS is great.  The only thing I hate is that none of the hardware iterations have been comfortable to hold, and I guess that the 3D games are ugly, and that two screens is completely distinguished mentally-challenged, but whatever.  As for all the praise, well, it has a lot of 2D/old games and is a Nintendo system; it's man-baby mecca.
 
Never played Prof Layton?
Pretty good stuff.

man, I just don't get the appeal of those games.  From the style to the actual puzzles, it's like the games are designed to put you into a comatose state.  
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Beezy on September 01, 2009, 08:32:31 PM
That said, they're still better than all three current gen consoles, that's a fact.
They never were and they never will be better than the 360. I can't speak on the PS3. Wii sucks.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Bocsius on September 01, 2009, 10:02:08 PM
My DS has strictly been a Mario Kart player since January 08. I got it in October 07 to play NSMB, enjoyed it. Picked up Ultimate Mortal Kombat in December, not so much. Got Mario Kart a week later. Fin.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: bork on September 01, 2009, 10:15:52 PM
My DS has basically been the Phoenix Wright+Castlevania player.  Never really got into anything else, don't bother buying games anymore or even making use of the flashcart I got for it.  The system just sits on my shelf.  Drawn To Life might make me break it out again.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Third on September 01, 2009, 10:36:56 PM
What are your expectations for Scribblenauts?

I don't understand the hype. The game looks pretty tiring.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 01, 2009, 11:00:15 PM
the ds is the worst handheld ever made, and is a worse videogame product than the wii

its only good if youre a weaboo and like cutesy wutesy wittle twoodee shitty sprites

icon drewsy; all is forgiven
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 01, 2009, 11:01:18 PM
Is the DS even relevant anymore?
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 01, 2009, 11:02:45 PM
clock and calendar apps
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 01, 2009, 11:04:15 PM
Sounds like you gave it a fair try, man. 

Nothing is going to appeal to everyone.  I know some people that don't like chocolate.


it's not that I don't like it.  It's that I've played a lot, but see people calling it the best thing ever and am wondering if there's more. 

It's a good list of games...I guess I don't get that sentimental about consoles or something. 
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 01, 2009, 11:06:37 PM
small game developer:

"I can invest my time and money in a DSiware game which will sell a total of 100 downloads, or I can slap that fucker on the iTunes app store and sell 1000 by the end of the first day. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM"

Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 01, 2009, 11:08:17 PM
Apple has been quietly building up momentum with the iPhone as a game platform. That'd be totally weird if it eventually takes over the industry. It'd be totally opposite to Sony's approach.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 01, 2009, 11:10:02 PM
here's how i know they're on to something - i'm actually interested in one, and i don't give a fuck about apple
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: drew on September 01, 2009, 11:18:31 PM
because we all know the top sellers for every industry equals quality
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 01, 2009, 11:31:31 PM
here's how i know they're on to something - i'm actually interested in one, and i don't give a fuck about apple


interested in the game portion of it?   I wouldn't jump in for that.  I've got games, but am not compelled to play them at all because playing on anything else is better than playing on the iphone. 

Everything else the thing does is a different story, though...


oh and...sooo..like...who wants to buy a DS Lite black for $70?  It's in near perfect shape.  8)
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: drew on September 02, 2009, 12:01:51 AM
you should have traded it in back when ng2 came out

its how i paid for the game ($60 trade in value)
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on September 02, 2009, 12:04:42 AM
I was playing the DS when I was waiting for me name to be called in the hospital. Good stuff.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: tiesto on September 02, 2009, 12:05:24 AM
the ds is the worst handheld ever made, and is a worse videogame product than the wii

its only good if youre a weaboo and like cutesy wutesy wittle twoodee shitty sprites

So what if I am a weeaboo and do like 2D sprites?

I still like the DS waaaay more than the 3 actual consoles. And you're smokin crack if you think the DS is worse than Game Gear, Lynx, GBC, etc.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: demi on September 02, 2009, 12:25:43 AM
I was playing the DS when I was waiting for me name to be called in the hospital. Good stuff.

u getting that operation done?
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: drew on September 02, 2009, 12:37:44 AM
junpeii is too poor to get an operation done
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Beezy on September 02, 2009, 12:53:06 AM
the ds is the worst handheld ever made, and is a worse videogame product than the wii

its only good if youre a weaboo and like cutesy wutesy wittle twoodee shitty sprites

So what if I am a weeaboo and do like 2D sprites?
I'd like it a bit more if more games were 2D instead shitty PS1/N64 quality 3D.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: MCD on September 02, 2009, 12:56:55 AM
My DS has basically been the Phoenix Wright+Castlevania player.  Never really got into anything else, don't bother buying games anymore or even making use of the flashcart I got for it.  The system just sits on my shelf.  Drawn To Life might make me break it out again.
mostly the same here.

we really need more of Castlevania and PW.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 02, 2009, 01:34:48 AM
I actually really dig the low-poly/low-res style of 3D on PS1 and DS.  I think effective use of limited resources can make an appealing aesthetic on its own.  (also I :heart the Low Poly Challenge board on polycount.net, http://boards.polycount.net/forumdisplay.php?f=58)  All this bitching I see about it makes me :gloomy
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: demi on September 02, 2009, 01:35:21 AM
You are just a unique snowflake
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 02, 2009, 01:51:10 AM
you should have traded it in back when ng2 came out

its how i paid for the game ($60 trade in value)

that was like 2 years ago, I don't even think I had one then (I've owned them on and off for a while)
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Jabberwocky on September 02, 2009, 03:48:32 AM
I've done Bangai-O, Devil Survivor, the Castlevania games, Ninja Gaiden, Planet Puzzle League, Mario Kart, NSMB, mario 64, Electroplankton, Chrono Trigger, all 4 ace attorney games, trauma center, ketsui, Osu 1 and 2, GTA, etc.

I can understand a disliking for most of these games. But how could you not like Bangai-O, Castlevania, or Chrono Trigger? What kind of games do you like?
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Beezy on September 02, 2009, 04:08:23 AM
DS RPGs consist of:

-ports/remakes
-dungeon crawlers
-srpgs
-worthless shit
-TWEWY

It's not good for rpgs.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: tiesto on September 02, 2009, 09:51:06 AM
DS RPGs consist of:

-ports/remakes
-dungeon crawlers
-srpgs
-worthless shit
-TWEWY

It's not good for rpgs.

There are quite a bit of ARPGs too... :P Although the amount of original RPGs looks to be improving though - DQ9, the FF 4 Warriors of Light game, Sands of Destruction, Nostalgia, the new Blue Dragon... there's probably more that I'm forgetting.

BTW, totally agree with you earlier in the thread, I wish way more DS games would use sprites instead of low-grade polygons. The big problem isn't the texture detail, or the lack of polygons on the models, it's the lack of filtering that turns everything into a shimmering mess.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 02, 2009, 11:06:06 AM
I've done Bangai-O, Devil Survivor, the Castlevania games, Ninja Gaiden, Planet Puzzle League, Mario Kart, NSMB, mario 64, Electroplankton, Chrono Trigger, all 4 ace attorney games, trauma center, ketsui, Osu 1 and 2, GTA, etc.

I can understand a disliking for most of these games. But how could you not like Bangai-O, Castlevania, or Chrono Trigger? What kind of games do you like?

I disagree with the DS being considered a "godly" system. When I think of a "godly" system, I think of something like the PS2, which has an abundance of excellent games in every single genre - RPG, fighting, smhups, adventure games, action, you name it, it's got something worthwhile. Everyone put their crap on the PS2 (which is something I hate about this generation: support has become so incredibly spread out that you can no longer find an abundance of everything on one system).

DS is a "godly" system if you consider the amount of original RPG's/SRPG's on it. It's got an impressive collection. Other than that genre, it doesn't have much. Very few solid action games, absolutely no worthwhile fighting games, very little Western support. It does have a nice AVG collection though.

I think the reason the DS has such a minimal collection of games for the other genres is because Nintendo royally fucked up with the specs. It's like while it was in development they asked themselves "Now, how can we make this system have the ugliest possible 3D known to mankind? It can only handle N64/PSX level visuals, so let's get rid of any texture filtering that might allow in-game models to resemble something. Also, don't let the system be able to render very many colors. Oh, and to top it off, let's make the resolution REALLY shitty as well, so developers will be forced to put vital information on the other screen".

In comparison, the PSP is so much more attractive to developers for games that require any sort of action, which I think explains its abundance of fighting games, shmups, etc compared to the DS. I suppose the only popular genre that's really suitable for the DS is TBRPG's, and as a result, that's its strongest point. I honestly love the two screens/touch screen (they're so much better than waggle... ugh) and I feel they've still got a lot of untapped potential that could offer a lot to other genres (which is why it pains me to see it mostly put to waste and shoe-horned into games). The two screens in particular offer a lot of opportunity, and it sucks to see so many developers mostly (and pointlessly) take advantage the touch screen only.

I went off too long on that. I can see why you'd consider FF3/4 and the DQ games archaic (in particular the DQ games, as the series is founded on its archaic nature), but if Chrono Trigger doesn't tickle your fancy, I don't know how you can like TBRPG's at all. To shorten all this, the DS is a "godly" system if you only consider its collection of original TBRPG's. Outside of that it doesn't have much. I love TBJRPG's so the DS is a great system for me.


when did I say I didn't like those games?  I've played and liked all of them. I thought maybe I was missing another vein of awesome games.  and fuck, I'm not reading all that. :lol

Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: tiesto on September 02, 2009, 11:23:53 AM
What kind of games are you into though? Perhaps we can give you better recommendations...
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: archie4208 on September 02, 2009, 11:34:20 AM
DS RPGs consist of:

-ports/remakes
-dungeon crawlers
-srpgs
-worthless shit
-TWEWY

It's not good for rpgs.

SMT Strange Journey is coming out for it next year. :drool
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 02, 2009, 01:54:08 PM
:bow Strange Journey :bow2
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Jabberwocky on September 02, 2009, 05:53:27 PM

when did I say I didn't like those games?  I've played and liked all of them. I thought maybe I was missing another vein of awesome games.  and fuck, I'm not reading all that. :lol



Oh. Well then if you're willing to try something new, by all means, get DQHeroes: Rocket Slime. It's nothing like the main DQ games and it's one of the best, most overlooked DS games out there. It's still one of my favorites. Love that damn game.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Vizzys on September 02, 2009, 06:16:40 PM
buy n+ ds and join the cool kids club


Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Beezy on September 02, 2009, 06:33:26 PM
SMT Strange Journey is coming out for it next year. :drool
-dungeon crawler


when did I say I didn't like those games?  I've played and liked all of them. I thought maybe I was missing another vein of awesome games.  and fuck, I'm not reading all that. :lol



Oh. Well then if you're willing to try something new, by all means, get DQHeroes: Rocket Slime. It's nothing like the main DQ games and it's one of the best, most overlooked DS games out there. It's still one of my favorites. Love that damn game.
Agreed, I'd love a sequel.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 02, 2009, 07:20:34 PM
I stand by my Knights in the Nightmare and (to a lesser degree) Lunar Knights recommendations.  Basically any game involving knights, unless they're Silicon Knights.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 02, 2009, 07:38:55 PM
buy n+ ds and join the cool kids club





got it on 360


I'm selling the thing.  I'll probably borrow one from someone to try out SMT next year. 
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Jabberwocky on September 03, 2009, 05:25:36 AM
Agreed, I'd love a sequel.

:hyper :hyper :hyper online tank battles :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: cool breeze on September 03, 2009, 09:43:19 AM
has anyone played the Kingdom Hearts DS game? is it any good?

from videos, it looks like a Monster Hunter style co-op game and not like previous Kingdom Heart games.  I'm also wondering if the collision detection is jank like almost every 3D DS game.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2009, 09:45:40 AM
SMT Strange Journey is coming out for it next year. :drool
-dungeon crawler

It's a traditional rpg.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Beezy on September 03, 2009, 11:11:28 AM
Doesn't look like it from the vids I've seen so far. It looks like the same style as Etrian Odyssey. Even if I'm wrong about that, DS is still lacking good new rpgs. At least in the US it is.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 03, 2009, 01:23:43 PM
Quote
has anyone played the Kingdom Hearts DS game? is it any good?

from videos, it looks like a Monster Hunter style co-op game and not like previous Kingdom Heart games.  I'm also wondering if the collision detection is jank like almost every 3D DS game.

IIRC Bebpo liked it.  I think that's a separate multiplayer mode and the single player is more or less in the same style as previous Kingdom Heartses.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 03, 2009, 03:32:26 PM
has anyone played the Kingdom Hearts DS game? is it any good?

from videos, it looks like a Monster Hunter style co-op game and not like previous Kingdom Heart games.  I'm also wondering if the collision detection is jank like almost every 3D DS game.

It's got disney and little boys.

higher on the otaku scale than kawaiinot
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on September 03, 2009, 04:07:16 PM
So it won't make me won't to gauge my eyes out? Cool.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2009, 06:12:48 PM
Doesn't look like it from the vids I've seen so far. It looks like the same style as Etrian Odyssey. Even if I'm wrong about that, DS is still lacking good new rpgs. At least in the US it is.

It's just a first person rpg that happens to be a traditional rpg.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 03, 2009, 06:53:29 PM
Portable gaming is pretty crappy in general.

It's been pretty hard to find something worth playing on the DS even after not having owned one for two years.  The only games that I really like on it are the Castlevania games and New Super Mario.  Everything else is ruined by the DS's N64 graphics. 

PSP is not much better.  While its 3D capabilities are great, the nub is the worst analog stick ever and the screen on the PSP-2000 has terrible ghosting and is unwatchable in bright places.  Most importantly, all the games just seem like inferior versions of games that I can play on consoles and PC. 

So, yeah, what Himu said was dum.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
It's personal preference. I have 20+ games for psp and ds apiece.

I greatly prefer the portables to ps3, 360, and wii. And play my psp and ds very quite often.

Like I said before, I haven't turned my 360 on since April. But I play psp or ds at least once a day.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: demi on September 03, 2009, 07:07:37 PM
because you're a japatard
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on September 03, 2009, 07:24:22 PM
My comment was funny  :(
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Beezy on September 03, 2009, 07:29:25 PM
It's personal preference.

That's not what you said before.

That said, they're still better than all three current gen consoles, that's a fact.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2009, 07:29:57 PM
It is a fact
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: MCD on September 03, 2009, 07:36:37 PM
No it isn't.

SFIV alone destroys anything on shite portables.

Now this is a fact.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2009, 07:41:43 PM
fact fact fact
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: MCD on September 03, 2009, 07:42:18 PM
slut slut slut
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2009, 07:46:14 PM
penis penis penis
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: MCD on September 03, 2009, 07:48:15 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2009, 07:51:16 PM
:drool :drool :drool
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 03, 2009, 09:56:46 PM
unce unce unce
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Jabberwocky on September 03, 2009, 11:04:59 PM
Doesn't look like it from the vids I've seen so far. It looks like the same style as Etrian Odyssey. Even if I'm wrong about that, DS is still lacking good new rpgs. At least in the US it is.

It's just a first person rpg that happens to be a traditional rpg.

Honestly it looks like a dungeon crawler mixed with Metroid elements, in the sense that you get upgrades which allow you to access previously inaccessible areas. 
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: Himu on September 03, 2009, 11:13:58 PM
Well, SMT games have always been traditional rpgs with dungeon crawler elements.
Title: Re: What am I missing with the DS?
Post by: treythemovie on September 04, 2009, 12:01:39 AM
I have a soft spot for the DS; the little system has been good to me. Then again handhelds tend to favor my lifestyle more in the first place.