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Title: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 05:41:59 PM
using firefox is starting to feel a little bit like using ie5/6 in the bad old days.   :yuck
Title: Re: ok, I admit it: IE8 > Firefox 3.5
Post by: Himu on September 04, 2009, 05:57:21 PM
Until IE has basic stuff like the ability to copy links without going to the properties, I'll stick to firefox. How do you copy url links from say, images, in IE8? There should be a simple "copy image location" option in the right click options. IE8 may be good, but it's lacking the most basic shit which makes browsing pain free.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 06:05:18 PM
For links it's called "Copy Shortcut", but you're right, there doesn't seem to be any nice method for images.  They should at least implement shift-rightclick like in Windows Explorer.

Maybe I'll switch to the new Chrome instead, I haven't tried that in a while.
Title: Re: ok, I admit it: IE8 > Firefox 3.5
Post by: MCD on September 04, 2009, 06:09:44 PM
there is a new chrome beta every fucking day.

will wait a bit, not in a hurry for more google ads. :smug
Title: Re: ok, I admit it: IE8 > Firefox 3.5
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 06:12:19 PM
aren't they calling it like v4.0 now?
Title: Re: ok, I admit it: IE8 > Firefox 3.5
Post by: MCD on September 04, 2009, 06:13:29 PM
yes.

why not try that new opera 10, seems it's finally out after like 4 RCs or so.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 06:24:49 PM
Thankfully, I'm not a web developer.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: Bocsius on September 04, 2009, 07:16:03 PM
IE  :heartbeat
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 04, 2009, 07:24:28 PM
40 add-ons I'm currently using
memory-hogging and slightly slow start-up
40 add-ons I'm currently using
memory-hogging and slightly slow start-up
40 add-ons I'm currently using
memory-hogging and slightly slow start-up

lol

ABP + Greasemonkey and you're good to go. It must be hell updating all of that every time they release a new version of Firefox.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 04, 2009, 07:33:28 PM
 :lol Well, I guess it's better than browsing with 40+ tabs open.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: Diunx on September 04, 2009, 07:33:47 PM
Whats with all those taps add ons? how many things can you do with tabs?
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 08:01:37 PM
40+ tabs?  I regularly browse with 200+ tabs open :rock
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 08:05:39 PM
Why not?  It doesn't hurt on modern PCs.

I tend to not close anything until either my machine starts slowing down or I start getting frustrated finding things in the taskbar etc., then I just go through all my apps, windows and tabs closing everything I don't need.  At least for me, this works better than closing things as I go.  Sort of like manual memory management vs. GC.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: Rman on September 04, 2009, 09:18:34 PM
Use Chrome.  It has a mindbogglingly fast java rendering engine.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: Bocsius on September 04, 2009, 09:41:56 PM
I know that the problem is caused by the large number I have installed, I just can't give any of them up.

List:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
- Abduction! 3.0.4
   Lets you capture an image of a web page, select the part you want and save it.
- Adblock Plus 1.1.1
   http://adblockplus.org/
   Ads were yesterday!
- All-in-One Sidebar 0.7.10
   http://firefox.exxile.net/aios
   Sidebar control with award-winning user experience!
- Delicious Bookmarks 2.1.062
   http://delicious.com
   Access your bookmarks wherever you go and keep them organized no matter how many you have.
- Download Statusbar 0.9.6.5
   http://downloadstatusbar.mozdev.org/
   View and manage downloads from a tidy statusbar
- Enter Selects 5
   http://ed.agadak.net/
   Press enter in the AwesomeBar to select the first result (without pressing down)
- Extension List Dumper 1.14.4
   http://sogame.awardspace.com/
   Dumps a list of the installed extensions.
- FaviconizeTab 0.9.8.2
   http://espion.just-size.jp/archives/06/308085916.html
   The width of the specified tab becomes small up to the size of favicon.
- Fission 1.0.9
   http://mozilla.zeniko.ch/fission.html
   Progress bar in the address bar (Safari style).
- Flashblock 1.5.11.2
   http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
   Replaces Flash objects with a button you can click to view them.
- FlashGot 1.2.0.2
   http://flashgot.net
   Enables single and massive ("all" and "selection") downloads using the most popular external download managers for Windows, Mac OS X, Linux and FreeBSD (dozens currently supported, see Extension's Home Page for details). FlashGot offers also a Build Gallery functionality which helps to synthetize full media galleries in one page from serial contents originally scattered on several pages, for easy and fast "download all".
- FoxClocks 2.5.33
   http://www.stemhaus.com/firefox/foxclocks/
   Displays local times around the world in the statusbar/toolbar. Supports virtually all time zones.
- GooglePreview 3.22
   http://ackroyd.de/googlepreview/
   Inserts web site previews in Google and Yahoo search results.
- Greasefire 1.0.4
   http://skrul.com/blog/projects/greasefire
   Automatically find Greasemonkey scripts on Userscripts.org
- Greasemonkey 0.8.20090123.1
   http://www.greasespot.net/
   A User Script Manager for Firefox
- Java Console 6.0.12
- Java Console 6.0.13
- Java Console 6.0.15
- Java Quick Starter 1.0
- Link Widgets 1.6.6
   http://clav.mozdev.org/
   A site-navigation tool
- Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant 1.1
   http://www.windowsclient.net/
   Adds ClickOnce support and the ability to report installed .NET Framework versions to the web server.
- Multiproxy Switch 1.30
   http://multiproxyswitch.blogspot.com
   MPS lets you switch local proxies in Firefox and Thunderbird, and do more.
- Nightly Tester Tools 2.0.2
   (Disabled)
   http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly
   Useful tools for the nightly tester.
- Open Image In New Tab 1.1
   http://next.gen.nz
   Adds right-click context menu item for opening images in new tabs.
- Organize Status Bar 0.6.3
   http://yellow5.us/firefox/osb/
   Organize your status bar icons.
- Personas for Firefox 1.2.2
   http://www.getpersonas.com/
   Themes, skins, fur coats and more.
- Save Image in Folder 1.2.7
   Easily save images in personally customized folders.
- Show Go! 1.0.3
   Always show the go button in the location bar...not just when you type in the location bar.
- Show Picture 2.1
   Displays the selected image.
- Silvermel XT 0.2.0pre_trunk_r2272
   http://www.silvermel.net
   Extends Silvermel Styles
- SmarterFox 2.1.2
   http://smarterfox.com/
   View "related articles" box on Wikipedia, search selected text from popup bubble and context menu, search from the Awesomebar, easily switch search engines for a search, and visit bookmarks with keyboard shortcuts!
- Stop-or-Reload Button 0.2.2
   http://v2studio.com/k/moz/
   Turns the stop and reload buttons into a single one. When you can stop, you have a Stop button, otherwise you have a Reload button. (Like Safari)
- Tab History 1.0.6
   http://www.penguinus.com/dev/tab_history
   Links opened in a new tab retain their history.
- Tab Scope 0.2.2.11
   http://www.xuldev.org/tabscope/
   Preview and navigate tab contents through popup.
- Taboo 0.6.0
   http://overstimulate.com/projects/taboo
   The cure for tabitis
- Tabs Open Relative 0.4
   http://jomel.me.uk/software/firefox/tabsopenrelative/
   Tabs open to the right of the current one.
- Undo Closed Tabs Button 3.5.1
   http://code.google.com/p/uctb/
   Add a toolbar and/or tab bar button to undo closed tabs
- United States English Dictionary 3.0.3
   http://www.blogzilla.info/spellchecker/
   English United States (en-US) spellchecking dictionary
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Edit: Fyi, they used to be 50-something :lol

Not knowing what people had as add-ons, I wondered what the buzz what was about.

Seeing your list, I'm just as much in the dark.

IE :heartbeat
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 10:56:23 PM
well I WAS happy with IE8, but apparently its Ctrl-F find function takes forever on even moderately large files and makes your browser unresponsive while it runs.  WTF?!
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 04, 2009, 11:21:02 PM
Maybe it has something to do with your 200 open tabs
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 04, 2009, 11:46:37 PM
burn lulz

anyway, I will probably switch to Chrome.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: BlueTsunami on September 04, 2009, 11:48:38 PM
Chrome is awesome but Flash tends to give it the shits from time to time. I isn't as bad as some of the stalling/crashing I would get in Firefox though.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 04, 2009, 11:53:59 PM
I was serious :lol Ctrl+F works fine for me, at least on some of the more sizable GameFAQs guides. I don't know what you consider "moderately large", though.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: ToxicAdam on September 05, 2009, 12:11:15 AM
Chrome is awesome. But, I'm not a power user like some of you.

Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 05, 2009, 12:18:28 AM
I actually only had a handful of tabs open.  Maybe it's something weird with my IE install, but other people do seem to have encountered the same issue, at least during the beta/RC period: http://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=360507
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: chronovore on September 06, 2009, 12:37:29 PM
Doesn't Chrome do some magic sizzle-whizzle with Tabs, where they're instanced and isolated from each other in memory and processing? That could be pretty slick for Mr. 200 Open Tabs.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 06, 2009, 12:46:32 PM
Yeah, I love Chrome tabs.
Title: Re: web browser thread of Firefox disillusionment
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 09, 2009, 12:15:43 PM
chrome rox.  chrome > ie8 > firefox 3.5