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Title: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 08, 2009, 10:12:46 AM
9/9/09 will not go to waste. Sega might be dead and who knows the status of Steve Jobs, but Apple trudges along. Tomorrow's press event is rumored to reveal new a new Nano and iPod Touch with built-in cameras.

Personally, I want a larger capacity Nano so I can replace my aging 30GB classic. It's around 80% full. Although even if Apple reveals a 32GB Nano (which would double the current largest-capacity Nano), I would still probably have it full within the next 1-2 years.


Edit: Live blog updates http://theappleblog.com/live/

Starts at 1 PM Eastern, 10 AM Pacific, whenever Euro-time

-iPhone 3.1 coming w/Genius tech
-iTunes 9
-Genius getting smarter (becoming SuperGenius :wyle_e)
-Manage apps on iPhone w/iTunes
-Drag and drop app management
-iTunes LP: Includes liner notes, videos, lyrics, chronology of albums.
-Home sharing: share media to up to 5 computers (like now, right?)
-Drag music from one computer to another
-Set up home sharing to automatically add newly acquired media from one library to another
-Facebook/Twitter iTunes sharing
-iTunes 9 available today
-iPod talk commencing...
-220 million sold, trails only Wii Fit
-20 million Touches sold
-Quoting Businessweek, Nintendo*, Sony* about "how great" the iPod touch platform is.
-(*for them to poop on)
-Games: PSP - 607, DS - 3680, iPhone - 21,178
-(Lots of talk about games)
-Madden NFL 10, custom kicking interface, draw play with your finger, etc. Available today.
-iPod touch pricing $199 (8GB), $299 (32), $399 (64), nothing so far about new features, except 32 and 64 models will be 50% faster
-talking about iPod Classic, maybe it's not going away after all...
-160GB (was 120) for $249
-Shuffles: $59 for 2GB, $79 for 4GB. New colors, shipping today. $99 for stainless steel.
-Video camera in iPod Nano
-Microphone, speaker, no thicker
-FM radio built in
-Pedometer
-Nike+
-Larger display (2.2")
-voiceover, Genius mixes
-8GB $149, 16GB $179. Available today.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Diunx on September 08, 2009, 11:22:20 AM
Apple :piss2
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 08, 2009, 11:25:59 AM
i'll be getting a touch, hopefully they bring the processor speed inline with the new iphones

i don't know how much i'd ever use a camera, but if they add a mic then you'd pretty much be carrying a skype phone in your pocket
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: cool breeze on September 08, 2009, 11:33:16 AM
Do they ever have trade in deals?

I got the last Nano they put out, it was in the box since then until three weeks ago, turned it on and the battery was completely dead and wouldn't hold a charge.  But two reasons I can't get my money back are because it's years old and it was a gift.  If I could trade it in and get a newer one at a discount, I would.  Still, :piss shoddy apple products.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: twerd on September 08, 2009, 11:37:08 AM
next zelda exclusive for iphone

i'm hyped!  :elephant :elephant :elephant
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 08, 2009, 11:39:14 AM
Do they ever have trade in deals?

I got the last Nano they put out, it was in the box since then until three weeks ago, turned it on and the battery was completely dead and wouldn't hold a charge.  But two reasons I can't get my money back are because it's years old and it was a gift.  If I could trade it in and get a newer one at a discount, I would.  Still, :piss shoddy apple products.

Some stores do, you can google iPod trade in and see. Depending on the condition of my iPod, I can get $40 at Best Buy. Not much.


next zelda exclusive for iphone

i'm hyped!  :elephant :elephant :elephant

More like Shenmue 3.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: tehjaybo on September 08, 2009, 12:54:43 PM
9/9/09 will not go to waste.

It wasn't going to.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
(http://www.thebeatlesrockband.com/inc/img/boxart.gif)
[close]
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ManaByte on September 08, 2009, 12:57:59 PM
I want a 320gig classic. My 120gig is packed full.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 08, 2009, 01:47:51 PM
How about an iPod that doesn't require you to sync with iTunes? No?

I think I'm gonna get a new Creative Zen instead. :bow Drag and drop :bow2
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 08, 2009, 02:23:42 PM
All I want is an updated iTunes - 64 bit for Snow Leopard.  iTunes really hasn't failed me yet, despite with the problems people have with it.  The only beef I have with it is that it runs slower than most programs should in grid/Coverflow mode, and I always use grid mode.  It needs to be speedier.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: drew on September 08, 2009, 02:26:46 PM
links to live streams please
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Tieno on September 08, 2009, 02:41:06 PM
:tophat :smug Apple :smug :tophat
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 08, 2009, 02:54:08 PM
links to live streams please

Don't know about streams, but you can get updates here: http://theappleblog.com/2009/09/08/theappleblogs-live-coverage-of-the-9909-apple-event/

On that note, this blog is saying that the iPod Touch w/camera could be delayed. http://theappleblog.com/2009/09/08/rumored-ipod-touch-with-camera-delayed/
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: border on September 08, 2009, 03:08:57 PM
i'll be getting a touch, hopefully they bring the processor speed inline with the new iphones
After Doug was nice enough to give you a Zune, you have to go and stab him in the back!   :-\  Zune HD is only a couple weeks away  ;)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: E-DuB on September 08, 2009, 03:16:40 PM
To think I was actually on my way out to buy a new phone and a Ipod Touch in 20 minutes. I thought the whole rumour of a Touch Camera was a bunch of BS. Oh well phone today and Ipod after the announcement tomorrow.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: archie4208 on September 08, 2009, 03:22:09 PM
It is the perfect time for the remastered Beatles library to show up on iTunes which means it won't happen.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 08, 2009, 05:08:21 PM
i'll be getting a touch, hopefully they bring the processor speed inline with the new iphones
After Doug was nice enough to give you a Zune, you have to go and stab him in the back!   :-\  Zune HD is only a couple weeks away  ;)

i'm getting both, for two-fisted nerdery!
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: jiji on September 08, 2009, 05:44:26 PM
What is it with 9/9? We've got Apple announcements and a couple of new Leica announcements on the same day.

BTW, Apple fans are the Leica fans of the computer/PMP markets. (I have both.  :-\ :-\ :-\)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: MCD on September 08, 2009, 05:45:04 PM
thread reported.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: jiji on September 08, 2009, 05:47:21 PM
What is this, /v/?
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 08, 2009, 05:49:15 PM
Plus Bob's Game is supposedly due tomorrow
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 08, 2009, 07:30:01 PM
I'd love a touch like my wifes but with the camera. But that Zune HD looks inviting. The HD radio is an interesting feature. I'll relax a few days and see how they stack.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 08, 2009, 07:37:16 PM
All I want is an updated iTunes - 64 bit for Snow Leopard.  iTunes really hasn't failed me yet, despite with the problems people have with it.  The only beef I have with it is that it runs slower than most programs should in grid/Coverflow mode, and I always use grid mode.  It needs to be speedier.


I've never had problems with it either, except when I first got it and tried to manually manage all my folders and shit.  That's when it was frustrating.  Eventually, I just let go and it's been fine since. I find that the people with the most problems are the ones trying to manually manage everything.

I dunno if there'll be any difference with 64 bit itunes, but I wouldn't mind some substantial itunes updates (not sure what, but new shit is always fun to mess with.)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ManaByte on September 09, 2009, 03:49:01 AM
It is the perfect time for the remastered Beatles library to show up on iTunes which means it won't happen.

Oh it's happening but expect them at a premium price per track. Like $3.99.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: chronovore on September 09, 2009, 05:53:29 AM
There was some news (http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/08/did-yoko-ono-and-sky-news-just-ruin-apples-beatles-surprise/) about Yoko Ono spoiling The Steve's big announcement that Apple and Apple kissing and making up. There was also a bit in there of interest:
Quote
Another interesting point from the FT article: Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Yoko Ono and Olivia Harrison want to sell the Beatles catalog on iTunes, but EMI has objected because of concerns over piracy, of all things (according to McCartney, EMI is worried about being held liable if any tracks leak to the web). Of course, the only way to obtain digital versions of The Beatles catalog online at this point is through piracy.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
they just dropped all the prices of the current ipods in the apple online store (price drop hasn't been reflected at retail yet)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 10:09:17 AM
8GB Nanos at $129, 16 at $149
iPod Touch at $189 (8GB), $249 (16), and $279 (32)
Classic at $229 (120GB)
Shuffles unchanged at $79
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 11:26:05 AM
Please don't let the price drop be a fire sale.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 11:32:28 AM
I'd bet that the 8GB Nano and Touch models are going by the wayside. Probably the 120GB classic, too, assuming they have a larger capacity model to replace it.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: tehjaybo on September 09, 2009, 11:40:06 AM
8GB Nanos at $129, 16 at $149
iPod Touch at $189 (8GB), $249 (16), and $279 (32)
Classic at $229 (120GB)
Shuffles unchanged at $79

 :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Wish I would have waited now.  :/  I got a 32GB Touch not long ago, maybe a month.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 11:50:26 AM
I didn't realize they retailed for $399 before. That's a pretty significant drop. My guess is the camera model will come in at $299 at 32.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 09, 2009, 12:28:14 PM
yeah, I bought one of those suckers on launch last year for $399.  Not sure what I was thinking...that's a fuckton of money.  my 32gb 3GS was $199 after discounts.  luckily, I got to sell it some sucker around christmas time for $365, so it wasn't a huge waste.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: E-DuB on September 09, 2009, 01:13:08 PM
8GB Nanos at $129, 16 at $149
iPod Touch at $189 (8GB), $249 (16), and $279 (32)
Classic at $229 (120GB)
Shuffles unchanged at $79

Where did you see that?
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 01:31:36 PM
store is down right now, they were listed earlier

rumor - no new touch announced today, due to tech issues with the camera:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/09/09/sources_reveal_apples_new_ipod_lineup_with_part_numbers.html

if it gets delayed, i'm guessing that when the store goes back up the prices for the current models will go back up, too

i knew i should have hopped on that 8GB refurb for $149 when i saw it
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 09, 2009, 01:40:17 PM
Aren't they rumored to be announcing a tablet computer?
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
8GB Nanos at $129, 16 at $149
iPod Touch at $189 (8GB), $249 (16), and $279 (32)
Classic at $229 (120GB)
Shuffles unchanged at $79

Where did you see that?

Like Eel said, they were at the Apple store. This site caught a photo of it along with the prices:

http://theappleblog.com/2009/09/09/ipod-price-drop-ahead-of-apple-event/#more-32082

Also, apparently the rumor is the Classic is going to be phased out entirely.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 01:47:15 PM
Live blog updates http://theappleblog.com/live/

Starts at 1 PM Eastern, 10 AM Pacific, whenever Euro-time

Basically 12 minutes from now.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:01:56 PM
Quote
10:02   Standing ovation
10:02    IT'S STEVE JOBS!!!
10:01    Lights dimming.

More like Steve Jobs' reanimated corpse.

Quote
10:05    30 million iPhone sold. (more than ps3)
10:05 App store a year old. 75,000 apps. (more than killzone 2)
10:05   1.8 billion apps downloaded. (more than demi)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 02:06:19 PM
The rumor of the rumor of the Apple tablet has it coming during the typical Apple convention during winter 2010. But I swear they canceled that event.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: huckleberry on September 09, 2009, 02:08:07 PM
The way these fuckers blog about Jobs   :yuck
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:11:27 PM
-iPhone 3.1 coming w/Genius tech
-iTunes 9
-Genius getting smarter (becoming SuperGenius :wyle_e)
-Manage apps on iPhone w/iTunes
-Drag and drop app management
-iTunes LP: Includes liner notes, videos, lyrics, chronology of albums.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:22:15 PM
-Home sharing: share media to up to 5 computers (like now, right?)
-Drag music from one computer to another
-Set up home sharing to automatically add newly acquired media from one library to another
-Facebook/Twitter iTunes sharing
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 09, 2009, 02:24:12 PM
Do they always start off this boring?
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:25:27 PM
Do they always start off this boring?

Kind of like E3, I suppose.

I'm here for the hardware.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:27:05 PM
-iTunes 9 available today
-iPod talk commencing...
-220 million sold, trails only Wii Fit
-20 million Touches sold
-Quoting Businessweek, Nintendo*, Sony* about "how great" the iPod touch platform is.
-(*for them to poop on)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 09, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/09/apple-ipod-sept-09-1271-rm-eng.jpg)

:lol @ Zune

I guess it's doing worse now than it was 2 years ago - I remember it being neck and neck with SanDisk at one time.


It takes brass balls though to put the PSP and DS up there and act like people don't want those anymore. Gimme a break. Let's see a pie chart for that one btw
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:36:06 PM
-Games: PSP - 607, DS - 3680, iPhone - 21,178
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:38:02 PM
I barely remember Zune being on the market, to be honest. iPod's got the brand awareness, I guess Sandisk gets the budget-minded consumer.

Assuming Sandisk is a budget alternative, I have no clue.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 09, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
Yea, they're cheaper than the Zunes. They're good products too IMO
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 02:42:26 PM
if the new touches do launch today, will i be able to walk into a store and buy one this evening?
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:43:29 PM
They're talking a lot about games.

"New product: Nova. 1st person shooter. You're a space marine. 12 levels, 5 weapons. Insane graphics. "
"Looks like Halo to me. :)"
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 02:44:38 PM
yeah, games and apps are why i am buying one, i doubt i use 20% of the space for music/podcasts/audiobooks
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 02:46:15 PM
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/09/apple-ipod-sept-09-1318-rm-eng.jpg)

those are some pretty outstanding graphics for a handheld, this game must be like an hour long
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: huckleberry on September 09, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
i know they have plenty of horsepower, but outside of Peggle I haven't kept any interest whatsoever in gaming on my touch or iphone....lack of physical controls kills it for me.  My wife, on the other hand, plays all kinds...
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 02:47:36 PM
i'm just thinking about what the zuneHD can put out, packing that tegra chip
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:48:58 PM
-Madden NFL 10, custom kicking interface, draw play with your finger, etc. Available today.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:51:50 PM
-iPod touch pricing $199 (8GB), $299 (32), $399 (64), nothing so far about new features, except 32 and 64 models will be 50% faster
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
8gb for $199, should be a 16gb for that price.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
at $199 for 8GB, zuneHD is still a better deal if all you're going to be doing is playing music and watching videos
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:53:40 PM
-talking about iPod Classic, maybe it's not going away after all...
-160GB (was 120) for $249
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 02:53:51 PM
wait, they're not upping the processor speed on the 8GB?  that's bullshit
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 02:55:39 PM
no camera, no processor upgrade on the 8GB, no sale, i'll just buy a refurb 2G
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:55:51 PM
is the Shuffle getting a screen is that a new Nano? Maybe just a photo out of place...
-Shuffles: $59 for 2GB, $79 for 4GB. New colors, shipping today. $99 for stainless steel.
-Zombie Steve Jobs back out...
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 02:58:58 PM
-Video camera in iPod Nano
-Microphone, speaker, no thicker
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 03:00:34 PM
-FM radio built in
-Pedometer
-Nike+
-Larger display (2.2")
-voiceover, Genius mixes
-8GB $149, 16GB $179. Available today.

(squarish form comment removed, new picture put up, still slim)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 09, 2009, 03:01:13 PM
I :heart my Sansa Clip
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:04:35 PM
what a disappointment, can't believe i took an extra long lunch for this
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
no camera on the touch is epic fail.

Edit: I wonder if that last minute change (rumor) of the camera due to parts failure is true and that it will debut later.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:06:17 PM
yeah, it's doubtful i would ever use it to take regular photos, but i can think of a handful of cool apps/games that could use one right off the top of my head
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 09, 2009, 03:06:38 PM
You can only touch twice on the itouch, right? So how are you going to have a twinstick shooter, and fire/jump/reload/open doors?

whoa @ 64gb, wtf @ no 16GB


Nanos sound good.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 03:07:26 PM
Wanted a larger capacity Nano...
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:08:46 PM
apple can fuck off, i'll just get an 8GB refurb for all the ereaders and other types of bullshit apps i want to dick around with and call it a day on my apple interest

i'm not paying their $300 processor upgrade ransom

it's up to ZuneHD now to show these fucks how games are done

16GB, OLED Screen, multitouch, kickass Tegra processor, 720p output, for $229 - zune wins on specs
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 03:09:40 PM
But Norah Jones is singing.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 03:09:47 PM
yeah, it's doubtful i would ever use it to take regular photos, but i can think of a handful of cool apps/games that could use one right off the top of my head

I didn't think so either. But twice now I've taken the wife's touch to an event (PAX) and it would have been sweet to take pictures, no matter the quality. I like the iTouch/iphones apps. Somebody had one for PAX and it was incredibly useful having it with me. Like to get one for myself. But only was interested if it had a camera. If there is no physical change other then space. I would rather get a 2G touch for much cheaper.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 09, 2009, 03:09:53 PM
How are you going to upload the nano videos directly to youtube with no Wifi?
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 03:12:52 PM
The nano is getting everything the touch was supposed to get? lame.

Well, the word was they were having production problems with the Touch camera. So it will probably come at a later date.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 03:14:15 PM
The nano is getting everything the touch was supposed to get? lame.

Well, the word was they were having production problems with the Touch camera. So it will probably come at a later date.

Hopefully it true as it's total fail on the touch right now with the price and features vs the Nano.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:15:19 PM
i think they just delayed it until next year to have something for the 2010 event - honestly, there's not much more they can add to the touch beyond a camera and mic, so they probably want to space out those kinds of upgrades
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 03:15:55 PM
-Norah Jones is done. And that's a wrap, show's over.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 03:17:44 PM
I just don't think they subscribe to the "talk about it today, release it some time in the future" philosophy. In most instances, Apple doesn't talk about things until they're available, when at all possible. They're not going to tell you about it until it's there waiting for you.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:20:04 PM
fuck, i didn't know apple charged tax on online orders, might as well get a new one
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:21:44 PM
i don't even know if i want one now, really
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 03:26:28 PM
I certianly agree that they are the king of here is our new model and it's available today. I just approach rumors with a large amount of salt and hope that this is the reason for no camera on the itouch , rather then apple being clueless.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 03:28:39 PM
Once the 16/32 comes with a camera I'll head down to costco. Cheaper then retail by a few bucks and 2% cash back it's a not a bad deal.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:31:16 PM
i can't believe they didn't up the processor speed for the 8GB, that's just stupid
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2009, 03:31:57 PM
I've wanted a Nano, but wanted at least 32 GB. The fact that they're staying at 16 does nothing for me. My library is bigger than that, and I'm not sure I want to enter into active library management. That's, like, 7 seconds I'd rather not spend whenever I acquire new music.

Putting it like that makes me sound incredibly lazy.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:41:28 PM
i'd be so fucking pissed if i dropped $200 on one of these only to see them release an upgrade with camera and processor boost a few months later

still can't get over them not boosting the specs in the 8GB to bring it inline with everything else, that's like splitting the userbase on purpose

yeah, fuck em, i'll see what the zuneHD has to offer in the way of apps and games - if nothing comes out of that, i'll just get over my fascination with PMP devices
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 09, 2009, 03:42:22 PM
i can't believe they didn't up the processor speed for the 8GB, that's just stupid

As someone else said. It's possible that was coming with the camera model that got "delayed". It's also possible they are milking the money from it. after all 40% of the iphone market is itouch.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 03:46:49 PM
i'm not going to spend $300 on one without a full feature set even if the storage space is doubled, and i don't have the money to keep upgrading if i pop for the $200 one and all that stuff comes later, so they basically left me without a purchase option
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 09, 2009, 03:57:02 PM
Yea, just wait it out or buy an old one on eBay or something. You'll just have to find another fix for your FPS cravings in the meantime.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 09, 2009, 04:41:39 PM
I've wanted a Nano, but wanted at least 32 GB. The fact that they're staying at 16 does nothing for me. My library is bigger than that, and I'm not sure I want to enter into active library management. That's, like, 7 seconds I'd rather not spend whenever I acquire new music.

Putting it like that makes me sound incredibly lazy.
This is why I really hate dealing with their synching bullshit. It's such a hassle having to check and uncheck everything constantly
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ManaByte on September 09, 2009, 08:51:08 PM
iTunes 9 is nice. Although I am trying to figure out a way to refresh what Genius Mixes display.

Updating iPhone to 3.1 right now.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 09:10:56 PM
well, despite my bitching i had money burning a hole in my pocket so i went ahead and bit on a $199 8GB

after reading various blogs and tech sites, i don't think we'll see a camera until next year, and even if we do there will probably be a premium price attached to it
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ManaByte on September 09, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
Madden is $7.99 until tomorrow night, and then it goes up to $9.99

Gameloft's NFL 2010 is $4.99
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 09:39:07 PM
i'm having problems already

itunes keeps telling me i need the latest version of mobile device support, but it won't install - keep getting "encountered an error" message

so i've had this fucking thing over an hour and i still haven't been able to get my pc to recognize it
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 09, 2009, 09:56:53 PM
It senses your resentment towards it. 
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 09, 2009, 10:24:28 PM
Okay, this is pretty slick.  Now I get it.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: M3wThr33 on September 09, 2009, 11:14:46 PM
Nano can't take pictures. Just shitty video.
iPod Touch still lacks a camera and is way too fucking expensive.
iPod Classic bumped to 160GB is an insult, because the last update WAS at 80/GB160GB before they 'merged' into a 120GB model, so they just needed a reason to re-sell it to you to add Genius.
And I can't get Home Sharing to fucking work on my computer.
iTunes got rid of the shopping cart, so everything is just as dangerous as it was on Amazon's Mp3s store, where a single click could equal a big fuck up.

Not happy.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: chronovore on September 09, 2009, 11:16:58 PM
I've wanted a Nano, but wanted at least 32 GB. The fact that they're staying at 16 does nothing for me. My library is bigger than that, and I'm not sure I want to enter into active library management. That's, like, 7 seconds I'd rather not spend whenever I acquire new music.

Putting it like that makes me sound incredibly lazy.

This is why I really hate dealing with their synching bullshit. It's such a hassle having to check and uncheck everything constantly

I had the same reticence with moving from a 60GB iPod 5G to the 32GB iPod Touch I'm using now. Instead of keeping my whole library, I find there are a couple artists that I really want at any time; I make a Smart Playlist for them (you can use "artist name" or even "play count"), and another Smart Playlist for anything I've recently added ("date added is within last 8 weeks"), and have it sync all desired playlists.

Based on how much room I had left over, I made a playlist selected entirely at random but limited to the remaining size. I've since switched this up to only select things which haven't played in the last week. This way I get a full iPod which has most of the songs I want, as well as a good selection of stuff that's fresh.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 10, 2009, 12:48:41 AM
I'm running out of space on my 32gb phone...only 4gb left.  I don't buy music as much as I used to, but I like to keep everything.  Just never know when you want to listen to some stuff you liked years ago!

Do you guys listen to music by playlist or album?  I'm still all about albums, or I browse for an artist then pick out a song.  From what I understand, kids basically listen to playlists of songs they like these days, which I find weird. 
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 10, 2009, 12:50:32 AM
I had the same reticence with moving from a 60GB iPod 5G to the 32GB iPod Touch I'm using now. Instead of keeping my whole library, I find there are a couple artists that I really want at any time; I make a Smart Playlist for them (you can use "artist name" or even "play count"), and another Smart Playlist for anything I've recently added ("date added is within last 8 weeks"), and have it sync all desired playlists.

Based on how much room I had left over, I made a playlist selected entirely at random but limited to the remaining size. I've since switched this up to only select things which haven't played in the last week. This way I get a full iPod which has most of the songs I want, as well as a good selection of stuff that's fresh.

I'm still considering it. I currently have two iPods: a 30GB video iPod that is my workhorse in the car and at work, and a 1GB shuffle (previous model) that I take to the gym. The regular iPod's battery life is diminishing. It barely makes it 6 hours now (at work, so no additional attachments to draw power from it), and is prone to fooling itself into thinking it has no battery power even when it's > 50% charged. I have to hook it up to a charger, even for just a few seconds, to get it to function again.

While it's true that I'd never listen to my entire library, I like having it all readily available so if I'm in the mood to listen to that album I haven't played since 2006, I can. I don't know... I toyed with the idea a few months ago so much that I put together an all-encompassing playlist that would fit under 16GB, and I just couldn't do it. I guess I'd just to have to filter more. Then to think I'd have to keep the thing updated whenever new music was added...

I may give it another try on the playlist side. Still, I don't care for a video camera or an FM tuner. I wanted capacity. A 32GB Nano at $199 would have been in the shopping cart in a heartbeat. :-\
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 10, 2009, 12:53:39 AM
I'm running out of space on my 32gb phone...only 4gb left.  I don't buy music as much as I used to, but I like to keep everything.  Just never know when you want to listen to some stuff you liked years ago!

Do you guys listen to music by playlist or album?  I'm still all about albums, or I browse for an artist then pick out a song.  From what I understand, kids basically listen to playlists of songs they like these days, which I find weird. 

Both for me. I have several playlists that are usually genre-specific (or at least blending similar genres) that will pull in 1 or many songs from individual artists or albums that I prefer. But I'll also listen to full albums, such as yesterday's Massive Attack day at work. I even have playlists that just have several full albums included so I can listen to them back to back.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 10, 2009, 01:07:52 AM
Do you guys listen to music by playlist or album?  I'm still all about albums, or I browse for an artist then pick out a song.  From what I understand, kids basically listen to playlists of songs they like these days, which I find weird. 
I've never made a playlist. Album -> shuffle ftw
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 10, 2009, 01:13:53 AM
forgot to mention that I do use genius on occasion to make playlists.  It's a pretty nifty feature.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ManaByte on September 10, 2009, 03:52:38 AM
Genius is awesome.

Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ch1nchilla on September 10, 2009, 04:02:45 AM
Really liking iTunes 9 so far, if only for the interface boost.

Thinking about getting an iPod nano and some new shoes for the Nike+ / pedometer stuff, it looks bitchin.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 10, 2009, 05:15:10 AM
Really liking iTunes 9 so far, if only for the interface boost.

Thinking about getting an iPod nano and some new shoes for the Nike+ / pedometer stuff, it looks bitchin.

still waiting for nike+ support on the iPhone :(

I have 2 pairs of the shoes and even a tshirt that supports it (seriously)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Saint Cornelius on September 10, 2009, 11:44:59 AM
I've never made a playlist. Album -> shuffle ftw

Playlists are the shit, you're missing out!

I didn't discover the joys of building a playlist until I got my 2nd iPod.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 10, 2009, 11:59:25 AM
I don't see how you wouldn't use playlists. Put together your own blend of music to suit whatever needs you have. I was doing it with casette tapes. I was doing it with CD-Rs. Of course I'm going to keep on with a digital library.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ManaByte on September 10, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
Really liking iTunes 9 so far, if only for the interface boost.

Thinking about getting an iPod nano and some new shoes for the Nike+ / pedometer stuff, it looks bitchin.

still waiting for nike+ support on the iPhone :(

I have 2 pairs of the shoes and even a tshirt that supports it (seriously)

huh? I thought it already supported it. There's an option for it in the iPhone's "settings" menu that you need to turn on first:

(http://i29.tinypic.com/2i94dtx.jpg)

after you turn it on a new icon will appear on your spring board:

(http://i32.tinypic.com/spvwuu.jpg)

I don't have any shoes that supports it but I'm pretty sure this is pretty much it

(http://i28.tinypic.com/53pjrl.jpg)

It's only supported on the GS.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ManaByte on September 10, 2009, 03:05:41 PM
The new sync options in 9 are great.

On my 120g Classic I just sync my whole library.

For my 8g iPhone I now just select the genre from the library I want and go.

Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 10, 2009, 03:07:39 PM
I've never made a playlist. Album -> shuffle ftw

Playlists are the shit, you're missing out!

I didn't discover the joys of building a playlist until I got my 2nd iPod.
I don't see how you wouldn't use playlists. Put together your own blend of music to suit whatever needs you have. I was doing it with casette tapes. I was doing it with CD-Rs. Of course I'm going to keep on with a digital library.
I have a feeling I'd get super specific about what I'd want to put on there (i.e. the best of the best of the best) and end up forgetting about 3/4s of every artist's music. I'd rather improvise my playlists and throw a few albums together on shuffle than digging through my library trying to make the perfect mix. Maybe I'm just lazy
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: ManaByte on September 10, 2009, 03:36:44 PM
I've never made a playlist. Album -> shuffle ftw

Playlists are the shit, you're missing out!

I didn't discover the joys of building a playlist until I got my 2nd iPod.
I don't see how you wouldn't use playlists. Put together your own blend of music to suit whatever needs you have. I was doing it with casette tapes. I was doing it with CD-Rs. Of course I'm going to keep on with a digital library.
I have a feeling I'd get super specific about what I'd want to put on there (i.e. the best of the best of the best) and end up forgetting about 3/4s of every artist's music. I'd rather improvise my playlists and throw a few albums together on shuffle than digging through my library trying to make the perfect mix. Maybe I'm just lazy

Or you could just hit the Genius button and let iTunes do it for you.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 10, 2009, 03:50:41 PM
takes me forever to come up with my own playlists.  I made mix tapes when I was younger because I'd get songs off the radio (when tapes were $10-15 and CDs were $25+.)   
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Saint Cornelius on September 10, 2009, 03:53:46 PM
I have a feeling I'd get super specific about what I'd want to put on there (i.e. the best of the best of the best) and end up forgetting about 3/4s of every artist's music. I'd rather improvise my playlists and throw a few albums together on shuffle than digging through my library trying to make the perfect mix. Maybe I'm just lazy

I've got a hip-hop playlist that I shuffle through, a rock one, a dubstep one, drum n' bass... then there's a playlist for when I just want to relax.

There's a "get busy" playlist  :tauntaun

A playlist of songs I like to listen to in the morning to get pumped. A playlist of songs I know my fellow lab workers won't hate. It goes on and on.

Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 10, 2009, 04:28:11 PM
I have a feeling I'd get super specific about what I'd want to put on there (i.e. the best of the best of the best) and end up forgetting about 3/4s of every artist's music. I'd rather improvise my playlists and throw a few albums together on shuffle than digging through my library trying to make the perfect mix. Maybe I'm just lazy

The way I do it is like this.

For a given type of music, I have a huge playlist of the best handful of songs on each album. Could be just one or two songs, could potentially be an entire album (rare). From there, I'll periodically make a more selective list of perhaps the best song for each performer or the one that best fits the present mood. So I'll have two lists, one that has it all, one that has the best. If I'm in the mood for the best, it's there. If I want the fuller experience, it's also there. I sometimes make intermediate lists, too, so I might include 2 or 3 for a given performer so it meets in the middle.

I have playlists for everything. 80s music. 90s music. Wayback Wednesday (redundant with 80/90s). Throwback Thursday (redundant with 80/90s, but not with Wayback Wednesday). "Electronica" (Full, Middle, Short, and even a subset for more downtempo). Jazz. Vocal Jazz. Rock. Even gaming. I'll put together playlists of favorite songs of given artists, so if they stretch for 3 or 4 or more albums, I'll have my own selection of greatest hits on standby. I have a playlist called "That's Un-American :smug" that simply has a collection of foreign-language tracks. I'll use on-the-go to mix various playlists together on the fly at work so if I want 80s pop to interlope with classic Sinatra, I can do that, too.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Saint Cornelius on September 10, 2009, 04:51:52 PM
Wayback Wednesday (redundant with 80/90s). Throwback Thursday (redundant with 80/90s, but not with Wayback Wednesday).


That's pretty awesome. You've inspired me to make day-specific playlists! :rock
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 10, 2009, 04:57:01 PM
Yeah, I'm definitely too lazy for all that :lol I don't even want to think about how often you have to go back and tack on songs from new releases.

The Genius feature for iTunes actually sounds pretty awesome, but iTunes on Windows is soooooo sloooooow that I'm hesitant to reinstall it just for that. foobar has spoiled me
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Bocsius on September 10, 2009, 05:01:06 PM
Wayback Wednesday (redundant with 80/90s). Throwback Thursday (redundant with 80/90s, but not with Wayback Wednesday).


That's pretty awesome. You've inspired me to make day-specific playlists! :rock

The one I never made but should have was "Twofer Tuesday." Back-to-back songs from each artist.

I'm basically a lame radio DJ wannabe, I guess.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Saint Cornelius on September 10, 2009, 05:11:36 PM
Yeah, I'm definitely too lazy for all that :lol I don't even want to think about how often you have to go back and tack on songs from new releases.

I have a "new ipod uploads" playlist for that! ;)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: cool breeze on September 12, 2009, 09:46:05 PM
yeah, fuck em, i'll see what the zuneHD has to offer in the way of apps and games - if nothing comes out of that, i'll just get over my fascination with PMP devices

http://vimeo.com/6542695  (30 seconds in)

Some 3D racing game is shown.  So hey, games exist.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 12, 2009, 09:59:21 PM
from what i've read the baseline price of games and apps on zune hd marketplace is $2.99

so, hopefully that means 1000% less fart apps to wade through
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 19, 2009, 05:46:44 AM
There's no Zune HD app store yet.  They are waiting on Windows Mobile so as to avoid stepping on each other's toes apparently.

Apps for now are all MSFT-developed or commissioned, and free (but apparently display ads on startup -- WTF?!)
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 19, 2009, 04:58:08 PM
What do you mean wait for windows mobile? What OS does the Zune HD use? I haven't read much up on it other then the ifixit tear down. I'm more inclined to go for a zune HD now then a touch. My wife has a touch and it's great. It seems to be the default to wrote apps for, so that is a major benefit. BUt other then that, I like the HD radio on the Zune.
Title: Re: Apple Press Event thread of is Steve Jobs still alive
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 19, 2009, 05:53:04 PM
Windows Mobile is working on an app store and they want to make sure whatever they do with the Zune interoperates with that, so they're waiting for that.  Zune HD uses a custom Windows CE-based OS.