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Title: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: SantaC on September 10, 2009, 08:41:47 PM
I picked up Batman: Arkham Asylum the other day, and while a it is a nice looking game, it is nothing special. We have seen this before 100x just with batmans name slapped on to it.

Now this goes on and sell 2 million copies, rave reviews and hailed as the next messiah  :lol  It is definitely influenced over the Dark Knight crazy, and sells extra copies because of that. Batman is so damn overrated. I dont understand why people go OMGWTFUGH crazy over him.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: duckman2000 on September 10, 2009, 08:44:42 PM
People like Batman, and people like good games. It's a good Batman game. That makes it quite unique, and desirable. You're just mad because there are no real cities in your country.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: demi on September 10, 2009, 08:45:30 PM
What are your thoughts on Zelda?
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: SantaC on September 10, 2009, 08:47:58 PM
What are your thoughts on Zelda?

That it is better than Batman
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 10, 2009, 08:49:04 PM
after being ignorant towards batman, i started reading some of the higher regarded comics. now i gotta say that batman is a pretty great character. much better than all the other mainstream superheroes
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Bebpo on September 10, 2009, 08:49:48 PM
Keep playing?  It gets more interesting when you get to the hub.

I mean it's not zomg the best game ever, but it's a very enjoyable game.  I don't think it has "that" much to do with batman.  If this was a ninja turtle game or terminator game and was the best licensed game in the last decade people would still be making a big deal out of it.

And yeah, Batman is popular in the US.  People like the tough silent guy schtick.  
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: demi on September 10, 2009, 08:50:27 PM
What are your thoughts on Zelda?

That it is better than Batman

But why? It's nothing special and we've seen it before 100x.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: duckman2000 on September 10, 2009, 08:51:33 PM
And yeah, Batman is popular in the US.  People like the tough silent guy schtick.  

Also, we have cities, so we can relate. And yes, I said we. I refuse to be Swedish in present company.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2009, 08:52:28 PM
Quote
hailed as the next messiah

Who said anything like this?
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2009, 08:53:38 PM
Because he's the goddamm Batman?
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: SantaC on September 10, 2009, 08:53:46 PM
What are your thoughts on Zelda?

That it is better than Batman

But why? It's nothing special and we've seen it before 100x.

Well Zelda used to be OMGWHATWHATWTF the shit, these days theyre out of ideas, and tbh you're right it is nothing special anymore.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: demi on September 10, 2009, 08:57:57 PM
The reason why people are apeshit over Batman because it's a wellmade game. You can appreciate that.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: pilonv1 on September 10, 2009, 09:06:01 PM
EA were stupid and didn't release a Dark Knight game. First batman game since dark knight and people went apeshit for it. Why so surprised?
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Jansen on September 10, 2009, 09:07:53 PM
is santac an ntard?

that could explain why he's unable to appreciate a good game
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2009, 09:12:01 PM
Is this a joke?  I don't think Batman AA is as good as everyone else, but still, is this thread a joke? is there supposed to be a point or valid argument? The OP answers his own question in the first post by labeling himself as a Batman hater.  I don't know the guy, but let me guess, he made a post about how Dark Knight was popular only because Heath Ledger died? or it could just be that he hates things that are popular.  Or it could even just be him fuming because he couldn't make lemon-aid when given the tools.  Who knows.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: demi on September 10, 2009, 09:12:50 PM
Is this a joke?  I don't think Batman AA is as good as everyone else, but still, is this thread a joke? is there supposed to be a point or valid argument? The OP answers his own question in the first post by labeling himself as a Batman hater.  I don't know the guy, but let me guess, he made a post about how Dark Knight was popular only because Heath Ledger died? or it could just be that he hates things that are popular.  Or it could even just be him fuming because he couldn't make lemon-aid when given the tools.  Who knows.

Nah I think he's just a banned GAFfer with an axe to grind.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2009, 09:17:35 PM
EA were stupid and didn't release a Dark Knight game. First batman game since dark knight and people went apeshit for it. Why so surprised?

EA and Pandemic went through a series of major slip-ups and the Dark Knight game was eventually canned.

http://kotaku.com/5132660/why-pandemics-batman-game-was-canned-and-how-it-killed-pandemic-au (http://kotaku.com/5132660/why-pandemics-batman-game-was-canned-and-how-it-killed-pandemic-au)
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: pilonv1 on September 10, 2009, 09:22:46 PM
Fucking pandemic.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: treythemovie on September 10, 2009, 09:34:22 PM
Didn't SantaC get permabanned at gaf for trolling Dark Knight?
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2009, 09:35:58 PM
The only thing known about the pandemic Dark Knight is that you could glide.  yeah.

Didn't SantaC get permabanned at gaf for trolling Dark Knight?

haha, no shit?  :lol
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: brawndolicious on September 10, 2009, 09:42:53 PM
Don't judge this based on the recent movies.  I actually liked the story but I am a batman fan.  gameplay gets really good when you really get in the zone with the platforming, combat, and the riddle hunting.

At the least, it's one of the "great" licensed games that only come like once or twice a generation (Goldeneye, Riddick, etc).
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2009, 09:45:17 PM
Don't judge this based on the recent movies. 

 :wtf
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Jansen on September 10, 2009, 09:49:02 PM
Didn't SantaC get permabanned at gaf for trolling Dark Knight?

he got banned for a day for trolling tdk. perma'd b/c he started bugging the mods over that day ban
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2009, 09:58:28 PM
Didn't SantaC get permabanned at gaf for trolling Dark Knight?

he got banned for a day for trolling tdk. perma'd b/c he started bugging the mods over that day ban

He bugged the mods over a ONE DAY ban?  :lol

Here's the thread in question:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328886 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328886)
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: pilonv1 on September 10, 2009, 10:12:24 PM
:lol awesome. GO BATMAN
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2009, 10:17:19 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: treythemovie on September 10, 2009, 10:26:56 PM
He bugged the mods over a ONE DAY ban?  :lol

Here's the thread in question:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328886 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328886)
Man, he went out even more like a bitch than I remembered. Looking back on the Amirox backlash is pretty funny though.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: archie4208 on September 10, 2009, 10:27:06 PM
I haven't played it, but isn't Batman AA Zelda-like in its gameplay?  You go from place to place getting upgrades to help you solve puzzles and roadblocks, correct?
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: treythemovie on September 10, 2009, 10:29:21 PM
I haven't played it, but isn't Batman AA Zelda-like in its gameplay?  You go from place to place getting upgrades to help you solve puzzles and roadblocks, correct?
Its more like a Metroidvania with some Splinter Cell and Bioshock elements added in.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: demi on September 10, 2009, 10:34:01 PM
Yeah its barely Zelda. It's Biotroidvania
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: pilonv1 on September 10, 2009, 10:42:35 PM
it cant be like zelda, if it was it would be turrible
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: archie4208 on September 10, 2009, 10:47:54 PM
Regardless, I'm sure it's better than anything Nintendo has done this decade.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2009, 10:56:38 PM
Regardless, I'm sure it's better than anything Nintendo has done this decade.

Super Mario Galaxy came out this decade.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Himu on September 10, 2009, 11:00:09 PM
I'm Batman.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2009, 11:11:22 PM
Batman's been a consistently popular character for 70 years.

Yep. Even the Batman series in the 60's was really popular when it first started.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: ToxicAdam on September 10, 2009, 11:13:26 PM
Because there has been pretty much nothing but shitty Batman games for the past 20 years?

Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: duckman2000 on September 10, 2009, 11:15:38 PM
Why Batman is a popular character is a more complicated question, but it's not because of Dark Knight.  Batman's been a consistently popular character for 70 years.

Justified urban vigilante hero with a general no kill policy, fighting crime in urban settings and doing so while still remaining reasonably, semi-plausibly human in his physical abilities. That hits a broad audience.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Diunx on September 11, 2009, 02:28:45 AM
Fuck you wiitard, what kind of mentally challenged sociopath would make a thread asking why people like batman? I propose that we ban him from here too.

after being ignorant towards batman, i started reading some of the higher regarded comics. now i gotta say that batman is a pretty great character. much better than all the other mainstream superheroes

Are you reading the new Grant Morrison Batman and Robin series? :hyper

Edit: lol at solo in that gaf thread.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: ManaByte on September 11, 2009, 03:19:13 AM
Batman's been a consistently popular character for 70 years.

Yep. Even the Batman series in the 60's was really popular when it first started.

I would kill for the entire 60s series on DVD but FOX is run by mentally distinguished mentally-challenged chimps

Best non-animated Joker by far. If Leger didn't die people wouldn't be spoofing over his Joker as much. Hamill will NEVER be touched.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: maxy on September 11, 2009, 04:35:52 AM
Because they like to dress in weird costumes.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Lucretius on September 11, 2009, 05:57:20 AM
Bat nipples
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 11, 2009, 06:41:03 AM
SantaC comes off as one of those kids who is a contrarian for the sole purpose of  getting attention.  Remember how he announced his arrival on Evilbore with some bitchfit thread about GAF, but it was mostly some self-fellating bullshit about how awesome he was?

SantaC, I'm an attention whore too.  I have to try hard to restrain it, but it helps to realise you'll never get ENOUGH.

edit: Okay, I remembered it wrong.  But his thread was called "I'm back with a vengeance" as if anyone gave a shit.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 11, 2009, 06:53:03 AM

after being ignorant towards batman, i started reading some of the higher regarded comics. now i gotta say that batman is a pretty great character. much better than all the other mainstream superheroes

Are you reading the new Grant Morrison Batman and Robin series? :hyper


no. i've been reading through the ones written by Jeph Loeb. Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Hush.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: SantaC on September 11, 2009, 07:23:18 AM
Didn't SantaC get permabanned at gaf for trolling Dark Knight?

yes I did, fucking batman
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2009, 10:45:36 AM
Batman's been a consistently popular character for 70 years.

Yep. Even the Batman series in the 60's was really popular when it first started.

I would kill for the entire 60s series on DVD but FOX is run by mentally distinguished mentally-challenged chimps

There's a lot of confusion as to what exactly is holding up the release of the 60's series. There's theories that range from DC Comics not wanting to bring back campy Batman to rights being spread across several different companies to problems with some of the celebrity cameos.

The whole thing is just a huge mess.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Third on September 11, 2009, 10:47:44 AM
I really hate the save system in the game. Beat the first boss yesterday and stopped playing after that.
Now I have to beat the fucking thing again. The boss is easy, but it would be better if the game actually saved after a boss battle.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 11, 2009, 01:01:22 PM
This game better be cool. Just bought a sealed copy off Half.com for $35.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 11, 2009, 01:06:11 PM
I don't give a flying fuck about Batman but Arkham Asylum is one of the best games I've played in a long time.  To say that it's just your standard action game with a superhero tagged on is flat out wrong.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 11, 2009, 01:13:18 PM
Didn't SantaC get permabanned at gaf for trolling Dark Knight?

yes I did, fucking batman

lol u mad
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2009, 01:22:36 PM
Didn't SantaC get permabanned at gaf for trolling Dark Knight?

yes I did, fucking batman

lol u mad

he mad
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: tiesto on September 11, 2009, 03:38:36 PM
Batman is definitely my favorite superhero, didn't get a chance to play the game for any more than 5 minutes at Play N Trade...lots of people rave at the game though so I will have to check it out.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: ManaByte on September 11, 2009, 03:52:55 PM
What Grant Morrison did to Batman is almost as bad as what JJ Abrams almost did to Superman.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Human Snorenado on September 11, 2009, 04:18:45 PM
What Grant Morrison did to Batman is almost as bad as what JJ Abrams almost did to Superman.

There's not a rolleyes big enough...
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: bork on September 11, 2009, 05:26:27 PM
What Grant Morrison did to Batman is almost as bad as what JJ Abrams almost did to Superman.

Are you talking about the new Batman And Robin series?  Hasn't that been getting universally praised for how good it is?   :lol  I don't like Frank Quietly's art though.

Or are you talking about Batman being "dead?"  It's not like they're not going to bring him back...
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: ManaByte on September 11, 2009, 05:40:08 PM
Not the new series, but the whole "death" storyline was distinguished mentally-challenged.

And yes, Frank Quietly needs to never work again. He's always sucked.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: bork on September 11, 2009, 05:41:45 PM
Not the new series, but the whole "death" storyline was distinguished mentally-challenged.

And yes, Frank Quietly needs to never work again. He's always sucked.

What happened in the RIP storyline was fine, but yeah, I can see how adding the stuff from Final Crisis in was pretty stupid.  Can't argue with that.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: ManaByte on September 11, 2009, 10:59:06 PM
What ever happened to Batman: Holy Terror. Did DC kill it?
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2009, 11:31:32 PM
What ever happened to Batman: Holy Terror. Did DC kill it?

It was just a one-shot.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: ManaByte on September 11, 2009, 11:43:56 PM
When did it come out?

Edit: nm. Batman: Holy Terror is different from Frank Miller's "Holy Terror, Batman!", which isn't out.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: MoxManiac on September 13, 2009, 01:52:19 PM
Wait, Batman AA is metroidvania-esq? Maybe I should check it out..
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2009, 02:16:33 PM
Wait, Batman AA is metroidvania-esq? Maybe I should check it out..

Yep

and you should :)
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 13, 2009, 03:33:47 PM
[youtube=560,345]0croUlqLENQ&ap=%2526fmt%3D18[/youtube]

GOTY.  Seriously.  Uncharted or Assassin's Creed or something else is really going to have to knock my socks off to beat Batman AA.

(BTW Don't watch that video if you haven't finished the game....spoiler heavy)
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Bebpo on September 13, 2009, 04:39:07 PM
Geez, Santa, I don't know how you approached this game to come up with the conclusion you did.  I'm about 35% done with it now and the game is fucking incredible.  It's like Batman TAS + Metroidvania + Metal Gear Notshitty with a little bit of fun brawling on the side.  If you really think this is something we've seen a hundred times before, I think you're letting your hate for Batman blind you, hardcore.

In Kojima's defense, the stealth AI here makes MGS guard look like Einstein.  Even on hard the stealth in Batman is MGS for kids (not a bad thing as it's very fun; just simple and easy). 
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Purple Filth on September 13, 2009, 06:39:55 PM
[youtube=560,345]0croUlqLENQ&ap=%2526fmt%3D18[/youtube]

GOTY.  Seriously.  Uncharted or Assassin's Creed or something else is really going to have to knock my socks off to beat Batman AA.

(BTW Don't watch that video if you haven't finished the game....spoiler heavy)

WOW this is awesome.

Love the music
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 13, 2009, 07:46:31 PM
WOW this is awesome.

Love the music

Thanks! :)

I took the music from the Sunshine soundtrack.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 13, 2009, 07:58:07 PM
well I like the old theme song.  nanananananananaBATMAN

other than that, not a fan
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Bildi on September 13, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
SantaC has awful taste if I remember correctly, so no great surprise he isn't big on the GOTY2009.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: Darunia on September 14, 2009, 08:31:09 AM
[youtube=560,345]0croUlqLENQ&ap=%2526fmt%3D18[/youtube]

GOTY.  Seriously.  Uncharted or Assassin's Creed or something else is really going to have to knock my socks off to beat Batman AA.

(BTW Don't watch that video if you haven't finished the game....spoiler heavy)

that's an incredible vid, gj
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: chronovore on September 14, 2009, 08:55:25 AM
Why Batman is a popular character is a more complicated question, but it's not because of Dark Knight.  Batman's been a consistently popular character for 70 years.

Justified urban vigilante hero with a general no kill policy, fighting crime in urban settings and doing so while still remaining reasonably, semi-plausibly human in his physical abilities. That hits a broad audience.

I think it's a little less true now with the glider cape and bat-armor but, yeah, the big thing for me is that he's ostensibly just a guy who has worked himself to the peak of human condition, driven by righteous anger, and acting effectively where society fails to do so. Superman can do just about anything, so almost nothing he does is truly impressive: Supes is almost never at risk, while Batman at his core is still subject to all the human frailties.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: cool breeze on September 14, 2009, 09:46:23 AM
Why Batman is a popular character is a more complicated question, but it's not because of Dark Knight.  Batman's been a consistently popular character for 70 years.

Justified urban vigilante hero with a general no kill policy, fighting crime in urban settings and doing so while still remaining reasonably, semi-plausibly human in his physical abilities. That hits a broad audience.

I think it's a little less true now with the glider cape and bat-armor but, yeah, the big thing for me is that he's ostensibly just a guy who has worked himself to the peak of human condition, driven by righteous anger, and acting effectively where society fails to do so. Superman can do just about anything, so almost nothing he does is truly impressive: Supes is almost never at risk, while Batman at his core is still subject to all the human frailties.

Even in the game, if you're ever caught either in the stealth or brawler sequences, you can go down fairly quick.  You have to constantly be planning for your next move as your completing the current one while also worrying about the immediate situation.

And I think Batman's appeal can almost be summed up by saying "prep time".  He always thinks several steps before the enemy.  The most obvious example is him keeping a room full of kryptonite just in case Superman goes crazy.  He's ready to take that bastard down.
Title: Re: Why is North America so crazy over Batman?
Post by: SantaC on September 16, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
, I think you're letting your hate for Batman blind you, hardcore.

that's because kids today are blind and stupid. I liked Burton's take on batman, but I dont give a shit about the batman fanboys today. They're rabid like N-fans.