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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Agent Whiskers on September 17, 2009, 02:50:43 PM

Title: PSP Go
Post by: Agent Whiskers on September 17, 2009, 02:50:43 PM
Am I the only one who's gonna purchase one of these newfangled doohickeys?

I had the old PSP Fat for so long until it crapped out and I missed out on a handful of games (GoW:CoO, Dissidia, Crisis Core, etc.) so I decided why the fuck not? It's better to buy from PSN in my case as to avoid mark-ups by Saudi retailers. Thinking of picking up the black one.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 17, 2009, 02:55:19 PM
hadn't thought of that angle-- the system is great in countries where retailers mark up official versions of games like crazy.  I guess the question is whether there's a big enough market who want official versions vs. just pirating.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Purple Filth on September 17, 2009, 02:56:04 PM
Am I the only one who's gonna purchase one of these newfangled doohickeys?

I had the old PSP Fat for so long until it crapped out and I missed out on a handful of games (GoW:CoO, Dissidia, Crisis Core, etc.) so I decided why the fuck not? It's better to buy from PSN in my case as to avoid mark-ups by Saudi retailers. Thinking of picking up the black one.

Seems like it. With that fucking price i can see why.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 17, 2009, 03:30:37 PM
The only way I'd consider buying one is if Sony has a way for me to be able to play all of my UMD games on the Go.  I'm not re-purchasing the same games I already own. 

Since you can just use a regular PSP (which has a bigger screen and it would appear, a more comfortable form factor), which costs less, and has cheaper storage methods available (buy a micro SD adaptor and get up to 16GB or 32GB easily!) to play games purchased on PSN, I really don't see the point, but if the Go gets a bunch of favorable impressions and a UMD solution is found, sure, I might bite. 

Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 17, 2009, 03:40:41 PM
Just curious how much Saudi retailers jack up the prices of games. In Japan we usually see US PSP games for 5800-6800 yen. Geez
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on September 17, 2009, 03:58:02 PM
 I am gonna bite.  I love the small form factor...being able to actually pocket it is a huge plus.  I gave my wife the ipod touch so I can use the Go as a music player...only thing I listen to are podcasts anyway.

 Not buying one because of having the games on UMD is totally understandable though.  I sold all mine a while back after my PSP broke.
 Would still love to either see a dual analog nub...but apparently Sony cannot get their head out of their asses on that one.



 Does anyone know if I would be able to download a copy of a game to more than one PSP?  My son has a PSP and it would be great if I could let him download a copy of the game as well.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 17, 2009, 04:10:28 PM
I think it's pretty hilarious that Sony's "goodwill program for pre-existing UMD owners" turned out to just be a sale on digital versions for everyone for the first week.



Is that all that it's going to be?   :lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 17, 2009, 04:23:04 PM
I'll buy it if it fits my criteria of

-letting me play all my umd games for free via some program without sending my umds in
-price drop or decent bundle.  $250 with Peace Walker is a maybe.
-second iteration isn't as dumb
-full screen TV out with PS3 controller support for all games

right now I'm waiting for the 4000 announcement.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: archie4208 on September 17, 2009, 05:05:04 PM
I think it's pretty hilarious that Sony's "goodwill program for pre-existing UMD owners" turned out to just be a sale on digital versions for everyone for the first week.



Haha.  I thought they would have at least let you traded in your UMD for a download voucher or something.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 17, 2009, 05:18:32 PM
Just curious how much Saudi retailers jack up the prices of games. In Japan we usually see US PSP games for 5800-6800 yen. Geez

I remember buying GTA:LCS for $80

 :o

The most jacked-up price I ever paid was $120 for the Japanese version of Tekken 2 back in 1996.  Much worse!
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on September 17, 2009, 06:06:28 PM
I remember buying GTA:LCS for $80

Crazy. Doesn't Saudi have official distribution channels for this stuff (i.e., games aren't imported from US/Europe)? Reason I'm asking is I remember a friend owning a PS2 from Saudi that looked "localized" and stuff; ran in PAL and had instructions in Arabic.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 17, 2009, 06:28:43 PM
I think it's pretty hilarious that Sony's "goodwill program for pre-existing UMD owners" turned out to just be a sale on digital versions for everyone for the first week.



How will this work? I have some old PSP games? What if I buy a PSP GO later on? I will never be able to play them on it?

Seems that way, yes.  Digital distribution only.  I'm not against the idea of this, but I have 50 games on UMD; the PSP Go is not a brand-new system, so for me to consider it, I want a way to play all 50 of those games on the Go.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on September 17, 2009, 06:30:31 PM
no, you will never be able to lay your umds on it. yer only choice would be to buy the game again in digital form

seriously the pspgo is so fucking stupid, you'd really have to either be an ignorant moron or a dumbass fool to drop the cash for one.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 17, 2009, 07:58:34 PM
How's hacking, emulation, and homebrew working on the 3000?  I might ask for one for christmas but I wasn't sure which one to get (excluding the Go).
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on September 17, 2009, 08:38:51 PM
I think it's pretty hilarious that Sony's "goodwill program for pre-existing UMD owners" turned out to just be a sale on digital versions for everyone for the first week

10% off then
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: tiesto on September 17, 2009, 09:04:42 PM
I heard a rumor that Sony was gonna release a PSP-4000 that still took UMDs, it'll have a better screen than the 3000. My 1000 is so old and I hate the screen, I hate the ghosting, I would probably purchase a 4000 since there are quite a few PSP games backlogged that I wanna try.

An attachment UMD drive that you could connect to the PS3 and play your games off there (complete with DualShock 3 support) would be ace.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: GoofyGoober on September 17, 2009, 09:37:29 PM
I think the PSP go was created for the High school crowd and first time PSP buyer. Otherwise it makes little sense.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 17, 2009, 09:53:23 PM
The PSP-GO's design is pretty nice.  It's compact and looks more elegant than the original PSP design. 

I definitely wouldn't mind having one to replace my red God of War PSP 2000 which has a little chip in the corner that annoys me.   I just can't help being a little OCD about blemishes on my gaming gear. 

Ultimately, like it was with the PSP 3000,  the factor that will most influence my purchasing decision is whether it would support freeware or not.  No free games means no buy. 


Just curious how much Saudi retailers jack up the prices of games. In Japan we usually see US PSP games for 5800-6800 yen. Geez

I remember buying GTA:LCS for $80

I bought it in Hong Kong for about $20 two years ago during my trip to Asia.  HK stores probably have to jack down the prices due to the rampant piracy. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Agent Whiskers on September 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM

 Does anyone know if I would be able to download a copy of a game to more than one PSP?  My son has a PSP and it would be great if I could let him download a copy of the game as well.

Yeah, you could download the same purchased item up to 5 times.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 17, 2009, 10:48:29 PM

 Does anyone know if I would be able to download a copy of a game to more than one PSP?  My son has a PSP and it would be great if I could let him download a copy of the game as well.

Yeah, you could download the same purchased item up to 5 times.

not exactly.  if it's like the PS3, you can have 5 activated systems.  so if you deactivate one, you get an activation back.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Agent Whiskers on September 18, 2009, 12:34:02 AM
You can download and delete a PSN game as many times you want as long as your account is activated on that PS3
My apologies. This.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 18, 2009, 12:42:53 AM
PSP can be a bit annoying about accounts if you buy from both US and another region.  If you download a Japanese demo and put it on there, your system will be identified as that Japanese account and you lose access to all your American games. 

I haven't tried multiple accounts on each system yet.  Don't imagine there will be a problem unless maybe for multiplayer.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on September 18, 2009, 02:18:45 AM
How will this work? I have some old PSP games? What if I buy a PSP GO later on? I will never be able to play them on it?

That is correct.  You will have to buy them again if you want them on the Go, unless they figure something else out in the meantime.

I'm sure it's on their "to do" list right after PS2 BC
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 26, 2009, 03:03:29 PM
The Sony Style store at a local mall had a PSP Go display unit.

+The Go is noticeably smaller than the regular PSP series. 
+Screen is awesome (same as the 3000, I think); very clear.
+The nub felt a little better.
+The L and R buttons felt better.
- The screen is smaller than the regular PSP series.
- The nub being directly to the right of the d-pad felt awkward.
- The recessed d-pad sucks.  I can't even imagine what playing something like Tekken or Soul Calibur must feel like on it.
- The face buttons are smaller and recessed.

Still, it's an attractive little unit.  It's too bad about the whole being forced to get games off of PSN/no way to transfer your UMD games to the unit thing.  I'd probably consider buying one if they hack it though.  :P
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: chronovore on September 27, 2009, 10:02:37 AM
It's sexy and small, but the L/R buttons don't feel better to me, I feel like my monster mitts are going to drop the thing when I try to use the shoulder buttons.

Your reasoning about direct purchase sounds smart, but with a pile of UMDs and no official way to transfer them, I'll watch Go go on by.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 27, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
How does the nub feel better? I've seen that mentioned before too.  Is it more like the PSP-1000 nub? Compared to the 1000, the nub on my 3000 and 2000 PSPs felt cheap.  D-pad and face buttons got way better, but the PSP 1000 nub still feels a lot more smooth.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: originalz on September 27, 2009, 11:22:59 PM
IGN says the battery lasts around 3 hours.  That sounds pretty damn bad.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 12:06:55 AM
apparently Daxter is coming to PSN, and since this is both post-God of War CoO/use of 333mhz and from the same dev, they're updating the version to support 333 (instead of standard 222) that would bump up the frame rate quite a bit.

Of course this feature has been available to CFW for a long time now, but this stuff getting done officially is nice.  It also screws over those who own the UMD version, like myself.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 28, 2009, 12:31:02 AM
It's sexy and small, but the L/R buttons don't feel better to me, I feel like my monster mitts are going to drop the thing when I try to use the shoulder buttons.

Your reasoning about direct purchase sounds smart, but with a pile of UMDs and no official way to transfer them, I'll watch Go go on by.

Why the aren't they releasing a UMD adaptor?  Even that would be better than nothing.

How does the nub feel better? I've seen that mentioned before too.  Is it more like the PSP-1000 nub? Compared to the 1000, the nub on my 3000 and 2000 PSPs felt cheap.  D-pad and face buttons got way better, but the PSP 1000 nub still feels a lot more smooth.

It's smaller in size, but just felt more solid and less "cheap" to me. 

IGN says the battery lasts around 3 hours.  That sounds pretty damn bad.

WELCOME TO 1991!  Game Gear style, yeah!! 

 :yuck
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: originalz on September 28, 2009, 12:59:39 AM
http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/102/1021995p1.html

According to the article they also say that the new placement feels fine at first but starts to be cramped after awhile for complex games, although I suppose with enough time people can adjust to it...

I really wonder how this thing will do in Japan.  Everyone who I've talked to seems to have no interest in it.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: maxy on September 28, 2009, 03:30:35 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NklbPGsSwig[/youtube]
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: chronovore on September 28, 2009, 03:57:10 AM
It's sexy and small, but the L/R buttons don't feel better to me, I feel like my monster mitts are going to drop the thing when I try to use the shoulder buttons.

Your reasoning about direct purchase sounds smart, but with a pile of UMDs and no official way to transfer them, I'll watch Go go on by.

Why the aren't they releasing a UMD adaptor?  Even that would be better than nothing.

About a "promotion," they say:
Quote

SCEA: No UMD conversion programme for PSPgo (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/scea-no-umd-conversion-programme-for-pspgo)

Sony America has said that it will not be possible for people to exchange their UMDs for digital versions of the games they already own.

"We were evaluating a UMD conversion programme, but due to legal and technical reasons we will not be offering the programme at this time," a spokesman has told Kotaku, as reported by Eurogamer.

The idea would have been to hand in your UMD copy of, say, Lumines, and receive a digital copy of the same game in return.

In Europe, at least, Sony is offering people who upgrade to PSPgo the choice of three free digital downloads, providing they own at least one UMD game.

There are 17 titles to choose from, including Echochrome, LocoRoco, Patapon, Resistance: Retribution and WipEout Pure. The deal, which will run between October 1 and March 31 2010, was announced at TGS yesterday.

As for technical reasons, they're probably just taking a play from Nintendo's playbook, and planning on selling your the same game multiple times, with the added gall that the spec is similar the same.

I think what Sony has miscalculated about is the idea that there are a lot of people out there who were waffling on a PSP purchase who will be lured in by "newer, smaller, sexier" charm. Those terms really appeal to the early adopters, and telling the existing PSP users that they're out of luck to play the games in which they've already invested is like Kutaragi telling everyone that the PS3 would be so fuck-awesome that they'd WANT to get an extra job just to pay the higher price for the console.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 09:46:35 AM
That would seem like a good solution but Sony, and more importantly the retailers (Gamestop), wouldn't want everyone to trade in their UMDs.

And I don't trust the battery life calculation.  There are way too many variables to get an accurate read.  Like, estimates of DSi battery life were in the teens; when I first used it, it lasted a little past a third of that since the screen brightness was all the way up.  Same deal with my PSP-2000 when I turned the screen brightness down and all that.  If 3 hours is the low point and not the average, it's still pretty bad, but if the low point is even lower, then that will be a disaster.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 28, 2009, 11:27:28 AM
As someone who only owns 4 or 5 UMDs, I probably would be interested in a PSP Go as a second PSP where I would be able to play new releases without worrying about ruining my cfw. But for $250, get real.

Does anyone know how fair they are on the game pricing? Any notable discounts over the UMD versions?

If the battery is 3 hours then that's a fucking joke too.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 28, 2009, 11:34:58 AM
That sucks man. I coulda sworn that the PSP games I checked out on PSN a few months ago were more fairly priced than that. I know they shift the pricing around a lot - did they jack t hem up in the lead-up to Go's release?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Beezy on September 28, 2009, 01:50:49 PM
As someone who only owns 4 or 5 UMDs, I probably would be interested in a PSP Go as a second PSP where I would be able to play new releases without worrying about ruining my cfw. But for $250, get real.
This shit is still gonna sell for $250? Who the fuck would buy this over a Wii/360 or a PS3 for just $50 more?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Rman on September 28, 2009, 02:15:36 PM
Does anyone know how fair they are on the game pricing? Any notable discounts over the UMD versions?

Nope.  Sony says that DD pricing would be on par with retail.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 28, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
Does anyone know how fair they are on the game pricing? Any notable discounts over the UMD versions?

Nope.  Sony says that DD pricing would be on par with retail.

DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUUUUUUUUUUUUMB
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: treythemovie on September 28, 2009, 04:42:42 PM
Does anyone know how fair they are on the game pricing? Any notable discounts over the UMD versions?

Nope.  Sony says that DD pricing would be on par with retail.
Why would anyone buy a PSP Go? (even more so than before that is). Its pretty much turning out to be the nightmare scenario for a digital download future.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 28, 2009, 04:46:08 PM
I guess people who would be interested in the Go:

-Like the smaller size and form factor
-Don't mind that it's priced higher than the other PSP models
-Don't care about owning physical copies of the games
-Don't mind that the prices for games are the same as retail
-Are suckers
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 06:42:53 PM
ok, there is almost a killer feature with the Go in that it lets you use dual shock (or sixaxis) to control all PSP games.  Now if it supported full screen and could play my UMD games, that would be great.

announce these features for PSP 4000 already :hyper
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 28, 2009, 06:51:41 PM
ok, there is almost a killer feature with the Go in that it lets you use dual shock (or sixaxis) to control all PSP games.  Now if it supported full screen and could play my UMD games, that would be great.

announce these features for PSP 4000 already :hyper

with the way this thing is going, there'll be a drawback like stupid lag
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 28, 2009, 06:52:01 PM
ok, there is almost a killer feature with the Go in that it lets you use dual shock (or sixaxis) to control all PSP games.  Now if it supported full screen and could play my UMD games, that would be great.

announce these features for PSP 4000 already :hyper

This is confirmed?  That IS awesome.  The cons still outweigh the pros though.  
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 06:56:19 PM
ok, there is almost a killer feature with the Go in that it lets you use dual shock (or sixaxis) to control all PSP games.  Now if it supported full screen and could play my UMD games, that would be great.

announce these features for PSP 4000 already :hyper

This is confirmed?  That IS awesome.  The cons still outweigh the pros though.  

It was confirmed that it would work in menus and stuff, but some reviews have mentioned it also works for games.  Unless they are really dumb to write about it and not check, it should work.

Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 28, 2009, 07:05:12 PM
ok, there is almost a killer feature with the Go in that it lets you use dual shock (or sixaxis) to control all PSP games.  Now if it supported full screen and could play my UMD games, that would be great.

announce these features for PSP 4000 already :hyper

This is confirmed?  That IS awesome.  The cons still outweigh the pros though.  

It was confirmed that it would work in menus and stuff, but some reviews have mentioned it also works for games.  Unless they are really dumb to write about it and not check, it should work.



It had better work for games!  What the fuck would the point be in it only working in menus?   :lol  But then, that does sound just dumb enough to be true. 

Then again, with a CFW PC and a PC app, you can get full screen with filters on all games, plus use any controller.  CFW OWNS AGAIN
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 28, 2009, 07:22:40 PM
whoa, does it look good?  what kind of filters?  does it work well?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 07:25:51 PM
ok, there is almost a killer feature with the Go in that it lets you use dual shock (or sixaxis) to control all PSP games.  Now if it supported full screen and could play my UMD games, that would be great.

announce these features for PSP 4000 already :hyper

This is confirmed?  That IS awesome.  The cons still outweigh the pros though.  

It was confirmed that it would work in menus and stuff, but some reviews have mentioned it also works for games.  Unless they are really dumb to write about it and not check, it should work.



It had better work for games!  What the fuck would the point be in it only working in menus?   :lol  But then, that does sound just dumb enough to be true. 

Then again, with a CFW PC and a PC app, you can get full screen with filters on all games, plus use any controller.  CFW OWNS AGAIN

yeah, I used that a bit and it wasn't a perfect solution.  There were graphical issues and compatibility wasn't too great either.

Even Nintendo put out the Gameboy player and Super Gameboy a long long time ago, and the PS3 doesn't even need a hardware add on.

btw, it's kinda bizarre that PSP games cost $10 more than PS2 games.  The PS2 versions of Motorstorm and Jak Lost Frontier cost $30 while PSP versions cost $40.  That's some bullshit.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 28, 2009, 07:32:14 PM
It looks good though.

(http://videoff7.free.fr/IMG_1026.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/spindoctor/1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/spindoctor/2.jpg)

Anyway, that's definitely a function you have to give the Go points for.  Hook it up to a TV with the cradle, break out a PS3 controller, and you have a mini console.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 28, 2009, 08:14:34 PM
wait...

i assumed at the $249 the thing came with the damned cradle - but it does not. Throw in an extra $30 for that.



It doesn't even come with a little slip case.   :lol  Just the system, AC, and usb adaptor.  I think they changed the USB plugs too, so you can no longer use mini-USB cables and have to stick with Sony's own format instead.

I think what I am gonna do is go and order two 16GB micro SD cards to use in my photofast memory stick duo adaptor, get more memory, and load up even more games and ROMs on my superior CFW PSP 2000.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 08:29:14 PM
In the end, even if Go is a flop, there is still the extra support for the PSP :rock

Right now I'm stuck deciding if I want to buy Arctic Edge or not.  I was hoping to try it via demo or downloaded, but no CFW let me play it and there is no demo yet.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: chronovore on September 28, 2009, 08:56:45 PM
Does anyone know how fair they are on the game pricing? Any notable discounts over the UMD versions?

 :lol

As if. Same price, or more.

Wipeout Pure retail: 9 euro
PSN: 20 euro

Syphon Filter retail: 13 euro
PSN: 20 euro

:smug

And, to me at least, the key deficit in this system isn't the price, but the fact that it's a license which can't be transferred. You can't loan it to a friend when you're done, you can't sell it back for profit. That they're coming in such a high pricepoint is just crazy, when they don't have to worry about lost revenue from used game sales under this model.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 28, 2009, 09:39:50 PM
I hope this dies fast
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 09:45:50 PM
I'm hoping it's a very, very minor success.  Just enough to make PSP more popular (as a whole), not enough to rule out a PSP 4000 or PSP2, or hell, a PSP Go 2 that isn't shit.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 28, 2009, 09:59:06 PM
The PSP Go is not meant for existing PSP owners.  It is meant for newcomers and die hards so Sony can squeeze a bunch of profit from them to make up for projected software revenue loss due to piracy.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on September 28, 2009, 10:00:09 PM
i cannot imagine any circumstance where this does well
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 28, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
Why are some of the biggest Wii detractors here talking about connecting a PSP to the TV?  PSP graphics blown up look significantly shittier than Wii graphics. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 10:17:56 PM
Why are some of the biggest Wii detractors here talking about connecting a PSP to the TV?  PSP graphics blown up look significantly shittier than Wii graphics. 

no no, the ultimate goal is to have the PS3 upscale the PSP graphics to play on TV.  Letting you use a PS3 controller on the PSP is just a nice feature and some progress.  That said, DS games on the DS look shittier than Wii graphics; PSP games on PSP look shittier than Wii graphics; PS1 games on PS2/3 look shittier than Wii graphics.  It's just easier to excuse them for being older or portable.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 28, 2009, 10:23:24 PM
Based on my experiences with the PS3's backwards compatibility, upscaling is a pretty useless feature.  In every case, native 480P rendering not only looks better than upscaled 480P but better than upscaled 1080P.  If you really want 480I or bellow graphics to look good, you basically need to keep a CRT around.  CRTs are the only TVs that make older 3D graphics look somewhat decent.   
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: chronovore on September 28, 2009, 10:42:53 PM
I laughed until I snorted.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 28, 2009, 11:12:01 PM
Based on my experiences with the PS3's backwards compatibility, upscaling is a pretty useless feature.  In every case, native 480P rendering not only looks better than upscaled 480P but better than upscaled 1080P.  If you really want 480I or bellow graphics to look good, you basically need to keep a CRT around.  CRTs are the only TVs that make older 3D graphics look somewhat decent.   

I didn't mean what PS3 does to PS2 games.  I mean the best would be the PS3 actually emulating the PSP and enhancing the image similar how PC emulators do it.  I don't get why it wouldn't be possible to do.

And actually there are two good features of the Go (first being the controller support).  The save state thing sounds awesome.  Being able to stop a game at any point and resume later should be in all game devices; it even does it automatically when your battery dies (which is apparently frequent with the Go).

Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 28, 2009, 11:34:44 PM
Quote
"Yeah, it seems that Sony has decided to exclusively target people who have been ignoring the PSP for four years because they've been waiting for the price increase."

 :lol funniest thing i've seen on the internet in some time. Congrats.


:lol oscar takes this one
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on September 29, 2009, 12:40:22 AM
Some Australian retailers are already taking $50 off the price. AUS$449 is the rrp.

(https://ads.jbhifi.com.au/websiteimages/jbo09/JBO-20090908-pspgo4.gif)

(http://i33.tinypic.com/2yv0xvl.jpg)
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 29, 2009, 12:42:50 AM
that looks like a wii W  ???
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: T-Short on September 29, 2009, 09:30:09 AM
They could release a external UMD drive as a USB peripheral to the Go, that would look amazing and hilarious
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on September 29, 2009, 09:36:01 AM
Then again, with a CFW PC and a PC app, you can get full screen with filters on all games, plus use any controller.  CFW OWNS AGAIN

???
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Purple Filth on September 29, 2009, 10:10:29 AM
Then again, with a CFW PC and a PC app, you can get full screen with filters on all games, plus use any controller.  CFW OWNS AGAIN

???

its clear he meant CFW psp
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on September 29, 2009, 10:30:12 AM
what's not clear is how to get filters for games

i've used remotejoylite and never seen any filters aside from ones that change the color output
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on September 29, 2009, 12:42:25 PM
also the huge ass bezel and the random playstation thumb shaped button, or the giant blank space above the nub and start/select.  It's not a good looking system and I will never understand how people think it's "sexy".
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Purple Filth on September 29, 2009, 12:54:37 PM
also the huge ass bezel and the random playstation thumb shaped button, or the giant blank space above the nub and start/select.  It's not a good looking system and I will never understand how people think it's "sexy".

only when its closed i guess.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on September 30, 2009, 05:48:52 PM
can someone clarify something?

i am hearing if you want to charge AND play via a tV at the same time (which SURELY YOU HAVE TO DO) then you HAVE to use the cradle?!

ffffs

I can't get a clear answer on this.   :-\  Someone else told me that there seems to be no way to charge and play on TV at the same time, even with the cradle.  That just can't be right...can it?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on September 30, 2009, 08:35:12 PM
can someone clarify something?

i am hearing if you want to charge AND play via a tV at the same time (which SURELY YOU HAVE TO DO) then you HAVE to use the cradle?!

ffffs

wasn't that confirmed in the thread where someone talked about hooking up a dual shock to it?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Lucretius on October 01, 2009, 12:22:07 AM
i cannot imagine any circumstance where this does well

only when it gets hacked
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 01, 2009, 02:55:51 AM
you mean feature

at least theyre not tying your purchases to the same machine like Nintendo is with the DSi
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 01, 2009, 10:30:20 AM
Maybe they'll come out with a $30 proprietary splitter, house inside a giant brick.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 10:34:23 AM
the charger uses a USB -> prop. PSP port cable
the output cable for tv goes from prop psp port cable -> tv

so yeah - i don't see how it's possible to do charge and play without the cradle :/

another oversight :/


LOL.  Anytime something cool about the Go pops up (like using a Dual Shock 3 or Six Axis with it), something else comes up that brings it down again.  One my friends just got suckered into buying one (his wife wants it), so I'll check his out for more in-depth-- OH WAIT I can't try out the games I'd like to unless he's already bought them on put them on his system.   :lol

But man, if it did get hacked, I'd buy one in a second.

EDIT: LOL, what did they do to the Go?  You can't even check your battery status anymore.   :lol  Any temptation I had is out the window. GEN-B2 plays Minis; Imma buy Thexder and play me some Motorstorm on the good ol' hacked 2000.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 11:03:53 AM
Even with all the negativity surrounding the Go (and much of it is deserved) I am still going to get one in a few minutes.  The portability factor outweighs most everything else for me. 

I still think its gonna flop...if nothing more than the way Sony has handled the entire thing.  If they really want to move the PSP (and more importantly, the PSP2) into the digital only realm, then the need to take a hit on the Go.  They really should have provided a way for people to transfer UMD games - even if it means that they take a hit on sales from the PSN Store.  It just seems they are going into this whole Go launch in a half assed manner.

Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 11:07:05 AM
I can't see myself buying one until all the games I like are on there, at the least.  No Lumines?  No Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles?  No Outrun 2006?  No Metal Gear Ac!d 2?  No SFA3?  No Ghouls N' Ghosts?  No Ridge Racers?  No Tenchu 4?  There's not even a GTA game on there.   :lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 11:21:59 AM
I thought GTA Chinatown War was supposed to hit today? 

I definitely agree that the list is thin right now...hell, I had a helluva time trying to find God of War using the Media Go application this morning...woulnd't come up even on the search function until I signed in! 

The only reason I am purchasing on day one (besides the fact I love buying new shit when it first comes out  :-\ ) is that now I will have a way of at least playing all the damn PSone classics that I purchased.  No way am I playing those through the PS3...they look like ass (Wii).




What worries me is that I haven't seen an actual confirmation that from this day forward that alll UMD releases will also be on the PSN store.....if that isn't written in stone then Sony can go take a flying fuck.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 01, 2009, 11:22:31 AM
Games are so expensive on PSN.  I thought they would try to bring the prices down more, since, you know, no one bought them before.  People are saying "God of War is only $16 better than retail!" That game is $6 on Amazon.  Most of the games there can be found for $10+ less new.  And PSP Minis prices are ridiculous.  They said prices comparable to iphone, but Tetris is $10.  Most of the iPhone games are double the price here.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 01, 2009, 11:35:56 AM
 :lol apparently the Undead Knights demo that went up is the full game. It's another Manhunt 2 accident.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 11:54:28 AM
the one on the US store, right?

and where are my 300 psp games for the go's launch sony?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 12:22:31 PM
I thought GTA Chinatown War was supposed to hit today?

Nope. 

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The only reason I am purchasing on day one (besides the fact I love buying new shit when it first comes out  :-\ ) is that now I will have a way of at least playing all the damn PSone classics that I purchased.  No way am I playing those through the PS3...they look like ass (Wii).

Yet another reason why CFW PSP is the best.  I don't have to pay to play games I already own on PSOne, and I can play almost PSOne game on my PSP, instead of being limited to what Sony has chosen.  :drake

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What worries me is that I haven't seen an actual confirmation that from this day forward that alll UMD releases will also be on the PSN store.....if that isn't written in stone then Sony can go take a flying fuck.

I highly doubt all the PSP games will end up on the PSN store.  A large majority, definitely, but not all of them.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 12:25:32 PM
Review from a former borito and one of the most disgusting Sfags on earth:

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6569/38944786.png)
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 12:27:56 PM
I hate to trash talk the man when he's not here to defend himself, but Abrader was saying right up until like yesterday that he would never buy one.   :lol  I don't see the point in selling off UMD games at a loss only to re-buy them on PSN again. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 12:29:56 PM
:drake Exact quote from Abrader: "In fact I don't think any other console has had quite such a good launch lineup ever. " :drake

Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 01, 2009, 12:31:48 PM
I thought GTA Chinatown War was supposed to hit today?

Nope. 

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The only reason I am purchasing on day one (besides the fact I love buying new shit when it first comes out  :-\ ) is that now I will have a way of at least playing all the damn PSone classics that I purchased.  No way am I playing those through the PS3...they look like ass (Wii).

Yet another reason why CFW PSP is the best.  I don't have to pay to play games I already own on PSOne, and I can play almost PSOne game on my PSP, instead of being limited to what Sony has chosen.

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What worries me is that I haven't seen an actual confirmation that from this day forward that alll UMD releases will also be on the PSN store.....if that isn't written in stone then Sony can go take a flying fuck.

I highly doubt all the PSP games will end up on the PSN store.  A large majority, definitely, but not all of them.

speaking about PS1 games on PSP, I just tried spyro again after a few weeks and they've made it better by allowing you to customize it more.  Don't know what firmware upgrade it was part of (I just went to 6.10 on my legit 3000) but now you can customize screen size just like you could for Xbox Live games (stretch, zoom, pan, etc. good for games that have black borders, like Symphony of the Night) and change controls around however you'd like.  Only annoyance is that you're still restricted to the PS1 digital controller, so you can't map the nub to the analog stick yet.

and if all my PSP games go up on PSN, and I can get all the digital versions for free, and the price goes down, I would pick up a Go.  Games on PSN are expensive and I don't get why I'd buy those when UMD versions are cheaper.  I only have three games I bought on PSN and they were PSN exclusives, the others are Manhunt 2 and now Undead Knights which were glitched to be free.  And I have Spyro and Syphon Filter I got free, but those are PS1 games.

btw, Media Go is pretty good software for managing PSP games on your PSP.  Easy to back up saves and games, and unlike directly copying them, it gives you the descriptions of each save like it would on the PSP (% of game completed, etc.).  Plus you have access to PSN on your PC.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 12:32:45 PM
:drake Exact quote from Abrader: "In fact I don't think any other console has had quite such a good launch lineup ever. " :drake



most consoles don't get relaunched in a desperate attempt to please publishers either
:rofl
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 12:38:19 PM
Abrader should be let back in here.  It's almost impossible to find that kinda material from anyone else. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 01, 2009, 12:38:55 PM
abrader really is functionally distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 01:00:36 PM
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and where are my 300 psp games for the go's launch sony?


ahem, 700 day 1 according to Kaz at TGS for US launch. OBVIOUS bullshit but , you know, if you have a barrel full of gullible fucking fish you just dangle the old tackle and let them bite.

there was 80 or so PSP games already up prior to all this, now theres about a hundred. :/

I am baffled why people seem to think that carrying the PSP-3000 is some sort of nightmare - as far as i see it something i can't use after 3 fucking hours on the go doesn't matter if it's light because after three hours there's no useful charge solution where as with the psp-3000 i can get on a plan with a mexican style chest bullet belt loaded to the brim with extra batteries.

and yet for some fucking awful reason i know i'm going to buy one.

God I'm a twat.

FIGHT THE URGE!!  FIGHT IT!!  Just keep looking at the post you just wrote when temptation arises.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Trent Dole on October 01, 2009, 01:04:39 PM
I need confirmation that the PSPGo is indeed like carrying a small watch with you.
You can strap it to your wrist!  :drake
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 01:12:13 PM
You know, I could fit the PSP 1000 in my pocket back when it first came out.  Nothing else fit in there, sure, but it did fit.  But generally, who walks around with a game system in their pocket other than kids?  If I'm bringing a portable with me, it's going in a backpack, briefcase, or maybe a jacket pocket.  I never bring portables with me unless I'm traveling.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 01:26:11 PM
as far as i see with the GO it is something i can't use after 3 fucking hours so it doesn't matter if it's light because after three hours there's no useful charge solution where as with the psp-3000

That's why you need to get two PSP GO, like Abrader. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Raban on October 01, 2009, 01:33:59 PM
You know, I could fit the PSP 1000 in my pocket back when it first came out.  Nothing else fit in there, sure, but it did fit.  But generally, who walks around with a game system in their pocket other than kids?  If I'm bringing a portable with me, it's going in a backpack, briefcase, or maybe a jacket pocket.  I never bring portables with me unless I'm traveling.

I carried my GameBoy Micro everywhere with me. THAT was a portable console.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 01, 2009, 01:46:18 PM
I can't see myself buying one until all the games I like are on there, at the least.  No Lumines?  No Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles?  No Outrun 2006?  No Metal Gear Ac!d 2?  No SFA3?  No Ghouls N' Ghosts?  No Ridge Racers?  No Tenchu 4?  There's not even a GTA game on there.   :lol

How the fuck can they not only expect you to throw away your whole disc-based collection for the Go, but then exclude PSP's best titles from the DLC list? What the fuck is going on over there?

And is there really no battery gauge?!
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 02:06:47 PM
How the fuck can they not only expect you to throw away your whole disc-based collection for the Go, but then exclude PSP's best titles from the DLC list? What the fuck is going on over there?

It really doesn't make any sense.  I notice that some of the big Square titles aren't on there, either.

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And is there really no battery gauge?!

Yup.  It's distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Third on October 01, 2009, 02:11:05 PM
I'll buy one when cfw is available.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Raban on October 01, 2009, 03:16:34 PM
I'll buy one when cfw is available.

Why? Think about it. If you actually buy this, you're promoting Sony's supremely idiotic business decisions. Don't buy it. Don't even look at it in the stores, Sony knows you glanced at it. And if they get the idea that people are even interested, they're going to continue supporting stupid shit like this. Obviously money is no object to Sony, since this entire generation is nothing but losses for them.

We have to stage an intervention for Sony, and you buying a PSP Go is like putting a bottle of beer in front of an alcoholic.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 03:20:47 PM
I'll buy one when cfw is available.

Why? Think about it. If you actually buy this, you're promoting Sony's supremely idiotic business decisions. Don't buy it. Don't even look at it in the stores, Sony knows you glanced at it. And if they get the idea that people are even interested, they're going to continue supporting stupid shit like this. Obviously money is no object to Sony, since this entire generation is nothing but losses for them.

We have to stage an intervention for Sony, and you buying a PSP Go is like putting a bottle of beer in front of an alcoholic.

The Go would be very good for CFW, seeing as how it already has 16GB of memory.  With CFW, he'd also be giving Sony the finger.   :P

But I wouldn't expect to see the Go hacked anytime soon, if ever.  They still can't crack the later 2000 models and the 3000s.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Raban on October 01, 2009, 03:28:19 PM
The Go would be very good for CFW, seeing as how it already has 16GB of memory.  With CFW, he'd also be giving Sony the finger.   :P

Giving Sony the finger is paying $270 for a redesign of an old system with less features and then doing whatever he wants with something that is rightfully his? There's no way around my argument. If he was going to go all-out pirate and steal one off of a cargo freighter that'd be pretty badass and I'd totally condone it. Anything involved with paying money to get a Sony product at present is something I strongly stand against, however.

Everything they've done is one step forward and two steps back, and if people keep buying Sony products, they're going to think they've done nothing wrong.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 01, 2009, 03:29:45 PM
Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit.  ::)
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 01, 2009, 03:31:16 PM
Who here is hating on the PSP in general?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 03:34:53 PM
Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit.  ::)


Lyte is just trying to talk himself out of buying one and he knows it  :-*
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 01, 2009, 03:38:22 PM
Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit.  ::)

I don't think Sony even knows what Evilbore is
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Raban on October 01, 2009, 03:39:31 PM
Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit.  ::)

I don't hate Sony, console wars are so stupid, and I'm not trying to start something. Out of all the next-gen systems I've owned, PS3 was by and large my favorite. But seriously, this late into the game, Sony is doing some astoundingly distinguished mentally-challenged shit.

Granted, MS fucked up by making 360s 50/50 DOA. And Nintendo was shitting it up with no support for anything but casual video games (that looks to be changing, I could be wrong).

But Sony has habitually made the stupidest possible business move every chance they were able to. Releasing a $600 console, ridiculing people who couldn't buy it, dropping the price almost immediately afterwards, SKU boogaloo, spending millions on Home only so Phil Harrison has something to do all day, miserable software pricing structure, a rebranding that created at least 20,000 different logos to be pasted on game boxes, constantly breaking and re-breaking firmware issues, redesigning the PSP and selling it for more money with less features, now a weeaboo version of Home for the PSP. Don't even get me started on the motion control bullshit.

It isn't fair to people who only own a PS3 for this kind of shit to be going on years after its release. At least MS and Nintendo have already begun to clean up their act, as soon as Sony gets its bearings it just falls down all over again.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 01, 2009, 03:40:01 PM
I just don't think you guys should bash the PSPGo, or any system, until you've tried them or owned them.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Raban on October 01, 2009, 03:42:11 PM
I just don't think you guys should bash the PSPGo, or any system, until you've tried them or owned them.

I've owned a PSP. Thus, I've owned a PSPGo, hell, you could consider it a PSPGo 2, because I was able to do more on that than I could on a PSPGo.

Seriously, if this thing sells more than 5,000 units, my faith in humanity -10.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 04:51:29 PM
Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit.  ::)


Lyte is just trying to talk himself out of buying one and he knows it  :-*

:lol Sure, I'm tempted, but the PSP Go's faults and the annoyance of playing imports on it are a major turn-off to me.  I'm also used to being able to play any game at 333mhz.  Can't do that with a Go.  I'm used to being able to play any game out of my PSOne library on my PSP.  Can't do that with a Go.  I'd like to be able to see the battery life when playing.  Can't do that with a Go.  I'd like to be able to change the battery if I'm on a really long trip with no way to use an AC.  Can't do that with a Go.  I'd like to be able to charge my system while playing on TV-out.  Can't do that with a Go.  I love being able to play Neo-Geo, CPS1-2, NES, SNES, Genesis, and GB/GBA games on my CFW PSP.  Can't do that with a Go.  It's nice to know that if I wanted to, I could access stuff like Youtube on my CFW PSP.  Can't do that with a Go.  I can keep going if you'd like.

I am just taking a wait and see approach with the system; I still think it's ultimately going to bomb.  Plus there's those PSP 4000 rumors.  I love being able to play the Go with a PS3 controller (great for TV-out), but that's hardly enough of a reason for me to buy one.  I have about 50 or so UMDs; most of those games aren't even on PSN for download, and it's stupid to sell a ton of those off just to re-purchase them for play on another version of the same hardware. 

Had they provided a solution for UMDs, I'd be all over the Go.  They didn't.  They fucked up.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 05:15:21 PM
I pretty much agree with all your points - I was turned off too.

However, unlike you, I have no self control  :'(




Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 01, 2009, 05:29:09 PM
what's the bet on how long it takes to get this thing cracked wide open?  i'm guessing 3 months
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Third on October 01, 2009, 05:32:28 PM
I'll buy one when cfw is available.

Why?

Because it's my money.

Why should you -or anyone else- care?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 01, 2009, 05:36:08 PM
i'm thinking the crack will have something to do with the media go software it's tethered to
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Third on October 01, 2009, 05:39:27 PM
It'll take some time before someone cracks the GO.
By the time someone actually cracked it, I expect the GO to be on its deathbed.
I just hope there will be a pricedrop before it's dead. That's when I'll jump in.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 01, 2009, 05:43:30 PM
My take on the Go is pretty much what Eel said on an old Borecast.  Sony had my money for the next PSP and it was theirs to lose, and somehow they managed to.

and fwiw, I did try out the hardware and it isn't bad.  L/R and the analog nub are a lot better on it.  Regular PSP has L/R kinda straight up and you need to move your fingers a bit towards you to place them; it's a bit uncomfortable kinda like how using the bumpers on the 360 controller are too.  On the Go the L/R are more towards the back and it feels a lot more natural.  The analog nub felt a lot better, like better resistance and more range.  The size of the nub is smaller, which isn't bad, but if they could have the resistance/range of the Go nub and the size of the 3000 nub, that'd be great.  Screen was also really nice and I didn't have a problem with it being smaller.  If the PSP-4000 is just the PSP Go with a UMD slot, I would consider it a lot more.  When it comes down to it, the thing that kills the Go for me is the fact that I can't play my PSP collection on it and would be forced to pay more money for the same games without having a physical copy.

edit: the price also isn't an issue.  It was going for ~$190 on Dell's site a week or two ago. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 05:48:28 PM
Sony should realize that if they want people to actually listen to music on it then they should at least disable the Left trigger when the slider is closed.  I tried to use it to listen to the latest Borecast and must have restarted it half a dozen times before I gave up  :(
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 01, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
So they're not discontinuing the 3000?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 05:55:11 PM
nope....they are selling both the Go and the 3000 side by side....don't know if that is a good thing or bad really.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 06:12:18 PM
edit: the price also isn't an issue.  It was going for ~$190 on Dell's site a week or two ago. 

Not anymore.  That was a pre-order promotion.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 06:14:14 PM
nope....they are selling both the Go and the 3000 side by side....don't know if that is a good thing or bad really.

It's probably the only choice they had.  There's just too many people out there who either can't download games from an online store or don't want to for them to just give up on UMDs.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 06:18:45 PM
what's the bet on how long it takes to get this thing cracked wide open?  i'm guessing 3 months

the 3000 still hasn't been fully hacked so i seriously doubt it
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 01, 2009, 06:32:20 PM
ah, but the kicker is that the older psp models require a hardware crack, while the psp go entirely relies on software to transfer games, and i'm guessing that software is probably exploitable (and sony are notorious for leaving gaping anus sized security holes in their software)

someone will figure out a way to "trick" the system into thinking pirated games are the real deal, hacking in keys and such

pirates can already crack games from steam and D2D with relative ease, a lot of the times by putting a wrapper around the game which shows up on your PC as another game entirely - i'd imagine whatever pirating solution emerges will be a variation on this method of cracking

honestly, i think in the end this thing will probably turn out to be more hackable than the umd-based psp line
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 01, 2009, 06:40:30 PM
It will get hacked, probably sooner than we think.

Sony is far from perfect and PSP Go is one giant clusterfuck.  I'd be surprised if their software wasn't as well.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 06:51:07 PM
I gotta say that I really like it so far.  

+ screen is nice. Of course, I never had a 3000.

+ Media Go integration is pretty damn good.

+ system is light and the buttons feel good (different than original...not sure if better or not).

+ ui feels snappier.  

+ Skype integration is mint.  I called my wife and held a perfectly intelligible conversation through the built in mic.

+ analog nub does offer better resistance.



- it looks slick as hell but the slider mechanism feels like most slider cell phones. i.e. cheap and breakable.

- complete fingerprint magnet...just like all PSPs.

- battery comes barely charged.  Took over an hour just to charge it up enough to install latest firmware to access PSN store.

- the charging stand does not come with a power adapter.  You have to either use the supplied usb cable or purchase a charging cable from the original PSP.  for 30 dollars it should have come with a way to use the charger that came with the PSP.  I didn't purchase the AV cables but you would have to purchase a power adapter to use the av cables in conjunction with the dock.  Good thing I had an original power adapter, but bullshit nonetheless.



Hand started cramping while playing the Patapon 2 demo...but that could have been because my daughter had my arm contorted while trying it out.  I have normal sized male hands....never had a problem with the PSP or a DS.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 07:11:08 PM

- the charging stand does not come with a power adapter.  You have to either use the supplied usb cable or purchase a charging cable from the original PSP.  for 30 dollars it should have come with a way to use the charger that came with the PSP.  I didn't purchase the AV cables but you would have to purchase a power adapter to use the av cables in conjunction with the dock.  Good thing I had an original power adapter, but bullshit nonetheless.

I'm glad to see that there's at least one way to charge and play on TV at the same time, at least.  Just means a cradle has to be added to the system's price.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 07:12:12 PM
Yeah it kind of sucks....not exactly what I had hoped for.


btw...there is a batter charge indicator on the Go...not sure what other people were talking about.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 07:20:05 PM
Yeah it kind of sucks....not exactly what I had hoped for.


btw...there is a batter charge indicator on the Go...not sure what other people were talking about.

That shows the percentage and everything? 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 01, 2009, 07:25:29 PM
It shows the one in the top right.  You mean the battery charge indicator in the system menu?...lemme check....nope.  It is gone like others were saying.  That does kinda suck.  I just checked the PSP 1000 I got from my brother and even with newest firmware it still has the battery status indicator in the system menu.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 01, 2009, 08:37:05 PM
Gah, it's just so embarrassing
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 01, 2009, 09:27:55 PM
Room
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Rman on October 01, 2009, 10:29:08 PM
So I heard Rockband Unplugged is not the full version on PSN.  What the heck is that about?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 01, 2009, 10:54:32 PM
No, its just the one that came included with the PSPGo. It's a barebones version that allows you to buy songs and play them. Pretty cool, what they should've done with RB on XBLA/PSN.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 01, 2009, 11:00:50 PM
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I make very lame (lol) videos in my spare time with friends and family. I just finished my PSP Go Launch video and figured I would post it. I did this for the DSi launch to but I kinda rushed this one since I haven't had to much time to make any videos lately.

This video features me and my dad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUfcPvJ4Q_w

Yes we both suck at acting but whatever. its fun to make them.

Now to go back to playing games...


What.the.fuck
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 01, 2009, 11:08:15 PM
There's a differece between that and just flat out saying it sucks. THat's like someone saying the 360 sucks because it red rings and sounds like a jet engine.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 01, 2009, 11:15:59 PM
tried it; it's awful

see a forthcoming episode of the borecast
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 01, 2009, 11:42:52 PM
Yea, who doesn't acknowledge that as a failing of 360. 360 sucks but it has all the games I wanna play. PSP Go sucks but three other iterations of PSP have all the games I wanna play.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Raban on October 02, 2009, 01:11:20 AM
There's a differece between that and just flat out saying it sucks. THat's like someone saying the 360 sucks because it red rings and sounds like a jet engine.

This is probably the stupidest thing I've ever read. The 360 DOES suck because almost 50% of all models in circulation are bound to inexplicably die. It DOES suck that Microsoft couldn't figure out how to make a console at least a little quieter than a detonating grenade.

I agree that slamming anything without backing up your claims is stupid, but you know what's stupider? Seeing a former industry leader pissing away millions of dollars.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 02, 2009, 01:16:33 AM
Not only do you pay more for the hardware, but the same games cost more on PSP than on the iPhone! (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/10/same-game-costs-more-on-psp-mini-than-on-iphone-why/)

(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/10/pricing.jpg)
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: chronovore on October 02, 2009, 03:51:39 AM
No, its just the one that came included with the PSPGo. It's a barebones version that allows you to buy songs and play them. Pretty cool, what they should've done with RB on XBLA/PSN.

I wish there was a version like this. With my disc cracked, I can't play anything until my replacement arrives. I've got loads of DLC unplayable because the disc is bad, but if it was on XBLA, I could just re-download the original app.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: twerd on October 02, 2009, 03:54:38 AM
PSP N :drake
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 02, 2009, 07:25:12 AM
Wow at the Ars Technica review. (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/reviews/2009/10/psp-go-review-sony-is-charging-you-much-more-for-much-less.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss)

Sounds like Sony has a real problem on their hands.




They had better release a 4000 and quick.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: maxy on October 02, 2009, 07:49:12 AM
Is this thing selling at all?

Somebody on gaf said(in August i think) that Gamestop as a whole company had about 1800 preorders.

From that review,
"If you lose your signal or get disconnected, your progress is not saved. It took me a few tries to download the entirety of Gran Turismo on the PSP"

 :lol :yuck
2010 is around the corner and things like that are released,what are those people thinking?
It should have a resume function for 1 Mb file...
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 02, 2009, 07:55:47 AM
Quote from: Ars Technica Review
a 1GB file can sometimes take an hour or more to pull down.If you lose your signal or get disconnected, your progress is not saved. It took me a few tries to download the entirety of Gran Turismo on the PSP— for some reason, the hardware lost the connection to my wireless router, and each time I had to begin from scratch.


When it comes to storage, what it says on the box and what you see as being available rarely line up. The PSP Go is supposed to come with 16GB of internal storage, but when you first turn on your virginal system you'll find 14GB free for your games, movies, and songs.
:-X
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: maxy on October 02, 2009, 09:58:14 AM
Lets laugh a little

Quote
Originally Posted by Fafalada:
Spot on review that posts really basic factual errors such as "phantom 2GB"?
16 Bilion Bytes = 14.9GB. The system doesn't show decimal points on the "free space" display. I'm sure some memory is reserved, but it's at most a few hundred MB. Not that poor fact checking is anything new for Ars.


SmokyDave
1.47gb is reserved space.

 :lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 10:04:24 AM
Eh, my iPhone is supposed to have "16GB" of free space too.  It doesn't...don't remember seeing people making a big deal out of that.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Third on October 02, 2009, 10:15:42 AM
The X360 20GB HDD only has ~13GB storage.  :lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 02, 2009, 10:53:48 AM
all companies should really be required to state actual free space on the box
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Third on October 02, 2009, 11:09:45 AM
It's strange that no American citizen has sued a company yet over this debacle.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 11:15:42 AM
Wow at the Ars Technica review. (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/reviews/2009/10/psp-go-review-sony-is-charging-you-much-more-for-much-less.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss)

Sounds like Sony has a real problem on their hands.

They had better release a 4000 and quick.

I love the last part of the review:

"If Sony continues this trend expect a $500 PS3 that doesn't play Blu-ray discs"

So that's what they were thinking about when they released firmware updates that fucked up PS3s!
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Akala on October 02, 2009, 01:07:22 PM
I just don't think you guys should bash the PSPGo, or any system, until you've tried them or owned them.

Why?  It's highly possible for something to be bashable from the concept stage.  You don't need to try or own a Virtual Boy to know that jamming your head into a visor to enjoy games in 16 shades of red and black sucks ass, and you don't need to try or own a PSP Go to know that it sucks that you can't bring your library over from the older version of the PSP.

Basically, the bigger the fan of the original PSPs you are (ie the more PSP games you own), the more the Go sucks.  Maybe you didn't like the PSP before or something?

Pretty much the best reason to ignore it.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on October 02, 2009, 02:46:02 PM
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For some reason, Sony went with the positively ancient 802.11b, which is the same as previous models. For $250, that couldn't have been bumped up to 802.11g? Or even -n? The entire point of the PSP Go hinges on the wireless, digital aspect of the hardware, so why is that hardware so outdated? Why is downloading a game made to be as annoying as possible?

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The PSP 3000 simply works with the cables you have. The hardware has a mini-USB port on the top of the system so you can move files or hook up accessories, and you can connect your PSP to your PS3 using any USB cable. In fact, one USB cable attached to your PS3 will let you both charge your controllers and connect to your PSP to move content.

That was a good thing, so of course it was time to get rid of it.

The PSP Go now uses a proprietary plug, which means no more generic USB cables. Your old chargers won't work either. In fact, the charging solution is rather tedious: you plug the cable into the PSP, and then into a block of plastic, and then you plug the power cable into the other side of the plastic, and then plug that into the wall.

Quote
You can use the Bluetooth capabilities of the system to link a Dual Shock 3 to the system, in order to play with an actual controller. That's a pretty cool feature, right? The only problem is, without USB you need to connect the controller, and the PSP Go, to a PS3. So to sync the controller to the system you need another system, a USB cable, the proprietary PSP Go cable, and the controller. It's not exactly the most elegant solution, and in this situation the PS3 works as a $300 adapter.

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In other words, this system is for people who don't mind rebuying all their content, never buy used games, and don't mind paying more for less. If you're agoraphobic and the idea of driving to a physical store to buy a game is terrifying, this system is for you. So we're looking for a gamer who is both wealthy and frighteningly antisocial.

:rofl :drake :rofl
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 02, 2009, 02:58:01 PM
so much bias is that write up  ::)






A store? wtf? Amazon has most of the games cheaper than Gamestop, and they're new.  God of War is like $12 (including S&H), $4 less than PSN, $8 less than Gamestop. 
 :piss Brick and mortar fanboys :piss2
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 02, 2009, 03:15:08 PM
It has bluetooth but not wireless G? lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 05:15:29 PM
Is that really true about the PS3 controller+PS3+PSP Go synching thing?   :lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 02, 2009, 06:47:44 PM
Is that really true about the PS3 controller+PS3+PSP Go synching thing?   :lol


When you go to register a PS3 controller it says:

Quote
Your will need the following items:

- PS3 System Controller
- PS3 system
- Two USB Cables

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?  :maf

I thought it would just a matter of unpairing my PS3 controller and then pairing it with the GO.  Un-FUCKING-believable.




Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 02, 2009, 06:52:34 PM
Quote
Your will need the following items:

- PS3 System Controller
- PS3 system
- Two USB Cables

 :lol

PSP G :-\
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 02, 2009, 06:57:45 PM
I had been out of the PSP loop for so long I had forgotten that it has some great games though.


long live PSP

spoiler (click to show/hide)
G :-\
[close]
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 07:09:59 PM
:rofl

PLEASE tell me that PS3 controller registration thing is a one-time occurrence.   :lol

Man, the more I find out about the PSP Go, the worse and worse it gets. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 02, 2009, 07:11:13 PM
I'll let you know later...cant find a second usb cable  :-\
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 02, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
I kinda wanna play Persona on the plane to vegas this weekend but I dunno if I can be bothered learning how this CFW shit works
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 07:13:15 PM
I'll let you know later...cant find a second usb cable  :-\

:lol :lol :lol  I'm sorry man, I don't mean to laugh, but holy crap!   :lol

I kinda wanna play Persona on the plane to vegas this weekend but I dunno if I can be bothered learning how this CFW shit works

What do you need help with?  If you just need to get it patched for GEN-B, you can always go the AAAARRRRRRRRRRRR root and download a patched ISO.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 02, 2009, 07:28:38 PM
I'll let you know later...cant find a second usb cable  :-\

:lol :lol :lol  I'm sorry man, I don't mean to laugh, but holy crap!   :lol

I kinda wanna play Persona on the plane to vegas this weekend but I dunno if I can be bothered learning how this CFW shit works

What do you need help with?  If you just need to get it patched for GEN-B, you can always go the AAAARRRRRRRRRRRR root and download a patched ISO.

I'm still rocking the last Dark Alex firmware. Is it easy to upgrade to GEN-B and can I continue using my Popstation games / homebrew without having to jump through hoops?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 02, 2009, 07:29:21 PM
More impressions from Abrader:

The dpad is much tighter and better for platformers and fighting games than on the 3000.

all in all after playing last night and today, id say the triggers, pad and buttons feel much like the old GBA SP. The bottom half of the PSPGo is also about as thick as the bottom half of the GBASP. (from what I can remember)

dont think iv played a handheld this much since the release of the GBASP.

This thing truly kicks ass. Th control pad even has tactile clicks now.

When more people get to hold it and see it in person all of this whining and shit on the web will cease.

Im ready to sell my UMD's now. I cant think to touch that PSP3000. If a publisher doesnt wanna put an image of their game on the PSPGo (why wouldn't they and sell more copies of out of print games?) then fuck-um.

The PSP 2000/3000 series is unplayable after you have held the Go.

I put my 8GB M2 card in the slot so now I got 21 GB of usable space.

I have 24 PSP titles and 19 PSOne titles on there. Cant put the fukker down.

I got the component cables today but haven't tried it yet with a dual shock 3 on a TV. IS the video out any better than the 3000 line?

Its funny that that awful UMD drive on the 1000-3000 model made such awful noises....sometimes when im playing the Go I will think I hear it but its just a haunting memory of hearing hours of that noisy thing.

Go made any UMD based PSP a monstrosity.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 02, 2009, 07:31:52 PM
I kinda wanna play Persona on the plane to vegas this weekend but I dunno if I can be bothered learning how this CFW shit works

Check your PM.  I sent you the link to the PSP internet store that Swaggaz told me about.  It's got patched versions of all the new games. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 07:35:36 PM

I'm still rocking the last Dark Alex firmware. Is it easy to upgrade to GEN-B and can I continue using my Popstation games / homebrew without having to jump through hoops?

Yeah, I haven't had a single issue since changing to GEN-B.  Everything still works the same!

You just need to download and upgrade to Gen-A first, then go to Gen-B, then Gen-B2. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 02, 2009, 07:39:16 PM
Is there any truth to the PSP GO d-pad being better or is it just typical Abrader bs? 

I was thinking of adding something like Capcom's d-pad cover for games like Castlevania but I don't want to be it all sticky afterwards if I ever decide to take it off. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 07:42:53 PM
Is there any truth to the PSP GO d-pad being better or is it just typical Abrader bs? 

I was thinking of adding something like Capcom's d-pad cover for games like Castlevania but I don't want to be it all sticky afterwards if I ever decide to take it off. 

I can't tell since I only got to try a Go for a few minutes.  It didn't seem like the d-pad would be better; being recessed, my first impression is that it would be a bit worse.  The way everything is cramped together also made going from the d-pad to the analog nub seem kind of awkward (when you'd need to be using both when playing a game like MGS Peace Walker).  I did think the nub felt better.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 02, 2009, 07:55:48 PM

I'm still rocking the last Dark Alex firmware. Is it easy to upgrade to GEN-B and can I continue using my Popstation games / homebrew without having to jump through hoops?

Yeah, I haven't had a single issue since changing to GEN-B.  Everything still works the same!

You just need to download and upgrade to Gen-A first, then go to Gen-B, then Gen-B2. 

I'm stupid, where should I actually get these, it looks like there are multiple GEN-A releases?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 08:07:48 PM
http://www.psp-hacks.com/   :)

http://www.psp-hacks.com/2009/07/02/psp-custom-firmware-550-gen-b-released/

This link has GEN A and GEN B.  GEN-B2 should be on the site too...
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 02, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
http://www.psp-hacks.com/   :)

http://www.psp-hacks.com/2009/07/02/psp-custom-firmware-550-gen-b-released/

This link has GEN A and GEN B.  GEN-B2 should be on the site too...

Got em. Readme's in french, do I need to download the official sony 5.50 too? Sorry about being paranoid, but i dont wanna brick before i go on my trip
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 09:54:47 PM
http://www.psp-hacks.com/   :)

http://www.psp-hacks.com/2009/07/02/psp-custom-firmware-550-gen-b-released/

This link has GEN A and GEN B.  GEN-B2 should be on the site too...

Got em. Readme's in french, do I need to download the official sony 5.50 too? Sorry about being paranoid, but i dont wanna brick before i go on my trip

Nope, just stick the update in your psp/game/update folder, make sure your battery is 78% or higher, and go! Just to be safe, I put each update on the memory stick by itself and deleted one before installing the other.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 10:02:20 PM
Oh yeah, GEN turns the VSH menu (the one that lets you change the clock speed, USB drive type, etc. when you hit select on XMB) off by default, so you'll want to re-enable it in the recovery menu when you finish.

Also IIRC to play Persona, you don't want to use the M33 setting but the Sony NP9660 setting instead.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 02, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
I just updated to 5.55 Gen-b fine. What should my settings look like. The first two isos I've tried that are supposed to work with that firmware don't work  :-\
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Purple Filth on October 02, 2009, 10:39:28 PM
Is there any truth to the PSP GO d-pad being better or is it just typical Abrader bs? 

I was thinking of adding something like Capcom's d-pad cover for games like Castlevania but I don't want to be it all sticky afterwards if I ever decide to take it off. 

I can't tell since I only got to try a Go for a few minutes.  It didn't seem like the d-pad would be better; being recessed, my first impression is that it would be a bit worse.  The way everything is cramped together also made going from the d-pad to the analog nub seem kind of awkward (when you'd need to be using both when playing a game like MGS Peace Walker).  I did think the nub felt better.

Playing Monster Hunter with "the claw" technique could be tricky with that thing.


Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 02, 2009, 10:58:56 PM
I will go as far as to say the PSP Go d-pad is factually worse.  It's not bad on its own, not as good as 3000, but not bad.  the position ruins it because many PSP games have controls build around the layout where the nub is right under the d-pad.  For example:  I was playing Pursuit Force 2 (sometimes great game, othertimes very annoying) and that game has "look back/rearview" mapped to down on the d-pad, right above the nub.  Metal Gear Peace Walker has down mapped to crouch.  Since it's so close to the nub that it could be accessed without even moving your thumb from the d-pad, many games use it as an action button (while left/right/up are options or equipment).  I'm making it seem worse than it actually is, but my point still remains. 

and yeah, I said earlier that the nub felt better and I stick with that.  I'm hoping the 4000 has an improved nub, because as much as the 2000/3000 are better everywhere else, the analog nubs on both of them aren't as good as the PSP 1000 or Go.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 02, 2009, 11:14:34 PM
Nub sucks, period.  Sony needs to design something with motion that feels more like the analog sticks on gamepads. 

But then again we're talking about a company that's stuck with basically the same controller for 3 generations. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 02, 2009, 11:25:33 PM
Figured out sonys plan

the target market is .... Pirates

pirates that want to go straight in fact

dark alex has retired
recent games didnt work with cfw (for at least 4 days!)

and i just wonder if the psp go was a "but look - its nice hw! And the new games wont work for uz pirates so now you can go straight, keep the games that do work but enjoy the new form factor and give us some money"

probably complete balls as a theory as it would be laughable that sony/pubs they were trying to convince would buy into the notion that this would work out but.... This is sony we are dealing with so you never know

meanwhile , pirates + general public belly laugh

I want the PSP Go to get hacked SO BAD.  It will be the biggest "LOL, F U" to Sony from the hackers EVER.   :lol

I just updated to 5.55 Gen-b fine. What should my settings look like. The first two isos I've tried that are supposed to work with that firmware don't work  :-\

Which games, and if they needed to be converted, did you do that or D/L the right ones?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on October 03, 2009, 12:03:11 AM
just hit up your favorite torrent site to get fixed versions of games that work with the current cfw. that's what i did when my copy of persona showed up yesterday :)
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 03, 2009, 12:14:08 AM
Thanks for the hookup, Lyte!
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 03, 2009, 12:56:16 AM
Thanks for the hookup, Lyte!

You're all set?  It's GO TIME! (the good kind of go) :drake
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 03, 2009, 01:08:24 AM
that's what i did when my copy of persona showed up yesterday :)

My copies of Motorstorm, Gran Turismo, Persona, Marvel Ultimate Alliance and several others I can't remember all showed up from last night 'till this morning. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 03, 2009, 01:17:24 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 03, 2009, 04:31:31 AM
I like the idea of the PSP Go, if just for the huge amount of memory it comes with.

I'm still on my PSP-1000 and I'd love to upgrade for the handful of things.
But I guess I'm better off just getting a honking huge memory stick. I love digital downloads, just wish the pricing was a bit better.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 03, 2009, 05:45:53 AM
the GEN-A thing bricked my PSP-1000. wtf.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 03, 2009, 10:13:59 AM
Really? That sucks. Hopefully you have access to Pandora.

I still can't play any of those patched games on Gen B. I thought at first it was because I converted the isos to csos, but I decocompressed one of the games and it still doesn't work.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 03, 2009, 10:48:28 AM
After an extended play period last night I have to say that I really like the ergonomics.  My hands didn't cramp up like I had feared...although the nub placement did make for some confusion while playing in the dark - kept forgetting that the nub was to the right of the dpad.

The buttons on the Go are fine.  They don't have any give to them...but I like that.  I hate the mushy feeling of Sony controllers in general - the Go doesn't feel that way at all.  The shoulder buttons, however, are ridiculously sensitive - something which doesnt matter in games. But when you try to play music or movies on the thing it really starts to suck.

Still didn't find an extra usb cable to try out the PS3 controller thing - what a bitch! Being able to purchase a Go, cradle, DS3 controller, and cables - then taking it home and using it like a console that is also a portable would have been a really neat feature.  Instead, they tied it to the PS3, a system I just cannot like no matter how hard I try. Sony should divorce the PSP from the PS3 entirely.


I agree with Smooth - nubs suck period.  The nub on the Go is better than the original - but it still sucks. I wish it had the little analog stick thingy that some cell phones have.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 03, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
Really? That sucks. Hopefully you have access to Pandora.

I still can't play any of those patched games on Gen B. I thought at first it was because I converted the isos to csos, but I decocompressed one of the games and it still doesn't work.

DCharlie has one so all is not yet lost. :)
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 03, 2009, 02:10:32 PM
I'm in a PS3 game share group and a guy just bought a bunch of PSP games, so I guess im jumping in. ANyone know where to get a cheap older PSP? I don't want this new one.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 03, 2009, 02:16:08 PM
Gamestop has refurb 1000s for $99, 2000s for $119, and 3000s for $129
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 03, 2009, 02:27:43 PM
the GEN-A thing bricked my PSP-1000. wtf.

What firmware were you on when you tried it?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 03, 2009, 02:38:30 PM
I still can't play any of those patched games on Gen B. I thought at first it was because I converted the isos to csos, but I decocompressed one of the games and it still doesn't work.

Still?  You should start over fresh with "clean" ISO rips.  Also make sure you have the latest version of Yoshihiro's decryptor...the first version of it didn't work with Marvel!  I think it's this one-- http://www.pspgen.com/game-decrypter-b2-yoshihiro-actualite-190027.html

And this guide worked for me:

1) Open the untouched ISO in UMDGen 4.00.
2) Click on File -> File List -> Export in order to save the virgin ISO's file structure to your PC somewhere.
3) Navigate to PSP_GAME\SYSDIR and extract the (encrypted) eboot.bin file, saving it somewhere on your PC. Close UMDGen 4.00.
4) Move the eboot.bin to the root of your memory stick.
5) Run Yoshihiro's 5.55/6.00 Decryptor program and hit X to decrypt. (The folder containing his program should go in X:\PSP\GAME like any other homebrew app).
6) Find the (now decrypted) eboot.bin in the X:\Decryptor folder and save it somewhere on your PC.
7) Open the untouched ISO in UMDGen 4.00.
8) Click on File -> File List -> Import and insert the original file structure file you exported. Confirm that you want to force the file positions to match.
9) Navigate to PSP_GAME\SYSDIR and delete the (encrypted) eboot.bin file. Right click where it used to be, click on Add -> Existing file(s), browse to the decrypted eboot.bin, and insert it.
10) Save the new ISO as an uncompressed ISO file (I'd give it a different name/location so as to not overwrite the clean ISO). It should result in a tweaked ISO that's ALMOST (but not quite) exactly the same size as the clean ISO.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 03, 2009, 02:43:20 PM
Oh yeah, confirmation on the Blue Tooth controller pairing debacle.  After you pair a controller with the PSP Go, you don't need to use a PS3 again to sync it up. 

...Unless you want to use that controller with the PS3 again!  Then you have to sync it back up to the PS3, and if you want to use the controller on the Go again, you have to repeat the entire process of hooking up the controller and PSP Go to the PS3 with USB cables and pair them up again.   :lol

So unless you want to use a controller dedicated solely to the PSP Go, it's a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 03, 2009, 04:21:55 PM
Gamestop has refurb 1000s for $99, 2000s for $119, and 3000s for $129

Thanks amigo.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 03, 2009, 06:12:39 PM
Just remember that only some models of the 2000 can be fully hacked.  The later 2000s and only early 3000s cannot be fully modded.

Can someone link me a good place to DDL PSP games?  I tried ripping Metal Gear Ac!d 2 last night and got a parameter error.  Checking around, others have had the same problem too, and still others are saying that an old rip of the game crashes on the 5th stage.  Would like to see if there's a new rip out there...
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 03, 2009, 06:15:16 PM
I want to be legit and shit.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 03, 2009, 06:17:02 PM
I want to be legit and shit.

Go with the 3000 then!   :)
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 03, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Really? That sucks. Hopefully you have access to Pandora.

I still can't play any of those patched games on Gen B. I thought at first it was because I converted the isos to csos, but I decocompressed one of the games and it still doesn't work.

You probably didn't upgrade the firmware properly.  All the patched games from the site I sent you worked flawlessly and I didn't even have to use Yoshihiro's crack. 
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 03, 2009, 08:34:14 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S16S-8o0pkE[/youtube]
Quote
FreePlay has posted a video on Youtube giving us a look at, the PSPGo has been slightly hacked. An exploit has been found in, by loading certain hacked save data files in a game. Freeplay managed to run a text file on his PSP Go and also dump the PSP Go memory and flash0 to his Memory Stick M2.

Apparently this is no new exploit, that it has been out there for some time and freeplay has used this to show the world that the PSP Go can be exploited and isn’t as secure as maybe Sony had thought.


This doesn't mean anything right now, but it could mean something down the road.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Third on October 03, 2009, 09:20:33 PM
 :o
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Cormacaroni on October 03, 2009, 10:06:28 PM
the GEN-A thing bricked my PSP-1000. wtf.

What firmware were you on when you tried it?

Some version of me33 or whatever (Sho Nuff hacked it for me...). The instructions didn't say jack about what you had to be running though - it only specified what h/w it worked on.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Trent Dole on October 03, 2009, 10:17:18 PM
lol, good jon Sony.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 03, 2009, 10:21:49 PM
called it
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: originalz on October 03, 2009, 10:28:49 PM
Just remember that only some models of the 2000 can be fully hacked.  The later 2000s and only early 3000s cannot be fully modded.

Can someone link me a good place to DDL PSP games?  I tried ripping Metal Gear Ac!d 2 last night and got a parameter error.  Checking around, others have had the same problem too, and still others are saying that an old rip of the game crashes on the 5th stage.  Would like to see if there's a new rip out there...

http://pspisos.org/
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 04, 2009, 12:30:14 AM

Some version of me33 or whatever (Sho Nuff hacked it for me...). The instructions didn't say jack about what you had to be running though - it only specified what h/w it worked on.

PSP-Hacks says:

Quote
Take a seat PSP-3000 owners, this time it ain’t all about you… Released for the PSP-1000 (Fat) and PSP-2000 (Slim) is Custom Firmware 5.50 GEN-A Build 4 from PSPGEN’s own GENyUS.

What you need:

A PSP-1000 or 2000 v1 or v2
A PSP running CFW 3.52 M33 or higher

That's pretty shitty if the read me for the downloaded file doesn't say anything about it.   :-\  Hopefully your system will be OK with a pandora battery.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Rman on October 04, 2009, 04:24:30 AM
I'm thinking of picking on these baby's up.  I really hate UMDs.  But I'm waiting for a price drop.  Too lazy to hack my 2000.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 04, 2009, 05:18:01 AM
Borys, it's the same exploit that I believe they have working on every model of PSP.  They still can't hack some of the previous models.  But if they do manage to succeed, the Go will be worth getting, because the homebrew people will fix all the dumb shit that Sony did to their own system.   :lol

I'm thinking of picking on these baby's up.  I really hate UMDs.  But I'm waiting for a price drop.  Too lazy to hack my 2000.

Hack your 2000 and you'll have the superior PSP instead of shelling out $250 on a gimped version of it.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: maxy on October 04, 2009, 05:52:47 AM
Even gaf,a sfag heaven,has multiple open threads where you can say anything about PSPGo...that tells a lot where this thing is headed
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Ninja on October 04, 2009, 06:40:07 AM
If the PSP Go can be hacked to play ISOs and emulators then I might actually buy it but this hack seems a long way from that.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: chronovore on October 04, 2009, 08:03:06 AM
So, am I getting this right? The PSP Go has no legitimate means for hardware upgraders to move from UMD to digital only. People who've purchased UMDs have to re-purchase them from the store at prices greater than the UMD costs to buy in most cases. OTOH pirates who have been hacking their PSPs for years are on the verge of getting a sexier one-time hardware purchase, on which they'll likely be able to load all the ISOs they've already collected, or modified versions of same.

I've always resolved to watch the feverish way Sony upgraded their firmware with skepticism and a slow shake of my head. The publisher's alterations have always been disguised as improvements: We added Visualizers to the music playback nobody uses! Hey, RSS for PODCASTS in your web browser now! and other ridiculous, useless shit to camouflage another futile attempt at blocking hacked firmware. Pirates work around it, and regular-joe consumers wonder why their PSP needs "fixing" all the time when their Nintendo DS runs just fine without constant bugfixes.

Instead of reexamining the closed system policy which has failed them on PSP, Sony has instead launched an entire platform centered around combating piracy and attempting to close out 2nd hand sales, but will instead alienate the customers who were previously both supportive and wholly legal.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 04, 2009, 08:55:30 AM
from another board, i'd link the thread but it's subscription only

Subject: My friend just bought the new PSP

Quote from: sjk2005
He's 35, lives in his parent's basement, works part-time at a supermarket deli, drives a 12 year old Dodge Neon with broken A/C, I think has every system made in the last 10 years, and laments that he has trouble getting girls.

I don't hang out with him in person anymore.

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 04, 2009, 04:07:55 PM
He's not going to have trouble getting girls now, with his sexy new PSP Go.  :drake
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 04, 2009, 04:39:34 PM
Lyte, PSPrelese.com might have what you need. 

I wish Swaggaz had told me about it earlier.  It's a really good site because most of the download links are from Megaupload which let you do multiple DLs simultaneously. 




Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 04, 2009, 07:42:33 PM
Lyte, PSPrelese.com might have what you need. 

I wish Swaggaz had told me about it earlier.  It's a really good site because most of the download links are from Megaupload which let you do multiple DLs simultaneously. 


Yeah, thanks for the link.  I ended up finding a rip on PSP ISOZ.  I'm on stage 4 of Ac!d 2, and the problem that prevents the rip from being played is supposed to happen on stage 5.  I don't remember there being any discussion about this back when the game out...only PSP game I've had this problem with.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 04, 2009, 07:52:49 PM
So, am I getting this right? The PSP Go has no legitimate means for hardware upgraders to move from UMD to digital only. People who've purchased UMDs have to re-purchase them from the store at prices greater than the UMD costs to buy in most cases. OTOH pirates who have been hacking their PSPs for years are on the verge of getting a sexier one-time hardware purchase, on which they'll likely be able to load all the ISOs they've already collected, or modified versions of same.

I've always resolved to watch the feverish way Sony upgraded their firmware with skepticism and a slow shake of my head. The publisher's alterations have always been disguised as improvements: We added Visualizers to the music playback nobody uses! Hey, RSS for PODCASTS in your web browser now! and other ridiculous, useless shit to camouflage another futile attempt at blocking hacked firmware. Pirates work around it, and regular-joe consumers wonder why their PSP needs "fixing" all the time when their Nintendo DS runs just fine without constant bugfixes.

Instead of reexamining the closed system policy which has failed them on PSP, Sony has instead launched an entire platform centered around combating piracy and attempting to close out 2nd hand sales, but will instead alienate the customers who were previously both supportive and wholly legal.

this is pretty spot on

as much as I like the PSP, Sony kinda lost with it.  They should have rethought the approach and tried again with a PSP2.  It's not like the PSP wasn't out long enough for a successor to be justified.  GBC was '98 to '01, GBA was '01 to '04, and PSP came out in '04-05.  The Go is a weak attempt at converting theld PSP into a ipod touch competitor and solving the "problems" at the same time.

It would be great if the PSP2 was a year or so away, and the Go was just a kamikaze attack to get attention and make people comfortable with some aspects of the Go.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 04, 2009, 08:01:28 PM
So, am I getting this right? The PSP Go has no legitimate means for hardware upgraders to move from UMD to digital only. People who've purchased UMDs have to re-purchase them from the store at prices greater than the UMD costs to buy in most cases. OTOH pirates who have been hacking their PSPs for years are on the verge of getting a sexier one-time hardware purchase, on which they'll likely be able to load all the ISOs they've already collected, or modified versions of same.

I've always resolved to watch the feverish way Sony upgraded their firmware with skepticism and a slow shake of my head. The publisher's alterations have always been disguised as improvements: We added Visualizers to the music playback nobody uses! Hey, RSS for PODCASTS in your web browser now! and other ridiculous, useless shit to camouflage another futile attempt at blocking hacked firmware. Pirates work around it, and regular-joe consumers wonder why their PSP needs "fixing" all the time when their Nintendo DS runs just fine without constant bugfixes.

Instead of reexamining the closed system policy which has failed them on PSP, Sony has instead launched an entire platform centered around combating piracy and attempting to close out 2nd hand sales, but will instead alienate the customers who were previously both supportive and wholly legal.

this is pretty spot on

as much as I like the PSP, Sony kinda lost with it.  They should have rethought the approach and tried again with a PSP2.  It's not like the PSP wasn't out long enough for a successor to be justified.  GBC was '98 to '01, GBA was '01 to '04, and PSP came out in '04-05.  The Go is a weak attempt at converting theld PSP into a ipod touch competitor and solving the "problems" at the same time.

It would be great if the PSP2 was a year or so away, and the Go was just a kamikaze attack to get attention and make people comfortable with some aspects of the Go.


Definitely, but there's no indication that the PSP Go is going to be any easier to hack than the other models. 

If they were to release a PSP2 that had all its software on PSN from the start, I'll have no problem with it and will buy it day one.  It's them releasing this new hardware and offering those PSP users who have been buying UMD users no way to upgrade and still make use of their older games that I have a major problem with.  If the Go does get hacked, it's only going to be a major incentive for those who don't engage in the CFW/piracy thing to start.  Although I'm sure there's a large amount of people who are perfectly fine with their 1000s/2000s/3000s and could give a fuck anyway; it's not like the PSP Go offers anything new other than its form factor.  I also have to say that I'm surprised at the number of people on message boards who had hackable 1000s and 2000s and never did so, then sold off their systems and UMD titles for the Go, citing playing off memory as the main reason, when they could have just installed CFW and been able to do that from a few years back.

This reminds me of how region-locking software only stopped those who wanted to buy and play the games legitimately on their systems, since pirates would use chips and other types of hacks to get around it.  I'm glad the PS3 is region-free, and it's good to see companies like Cave making the decision to make their upcoming titles region-free as well.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 04, 2009, 08:16:48 PM
Quote
They should have rethought the approach and tried again with a PSP2. 


which is, apparently, not too far away. :/



Then fuck the Go.  :P

/thread
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 04, 2009, 08:33:00 PM
I've been dealing with custom firmware on the Wii recently, and oh my fucking lord, it sucks. It's a mess of custom hacks that just seem scary and wrong. Rather than giving alternative updates for everybody, they're patching individual files and it makes a rat's nest of issues trying to figure out what you can and can't do, especially after doing a system update.

The community needs to fucking get their act together and realize having a single firmware base (With the proper holes left open) which is VERY possible, would do wonders.

I shouldn't have to choose what files to update and learn what each IOS does.
"I'm on 4.0U with IOS61 and IOS249..."
"I'm on 3.2E with bla bla bla..."

Argh...
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 04, 2009, 08:43:59 PM
ya fuck wii hacking, I can't get any of the dvd players to work so I can't even play pirated games just shitty hebrew
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Bebpo on October 04, 2009, 08:51:20 PM
I've been dealing with custom firmware on the Wii recently, and oh my fucking lord, it sucks. It's a mess of custom hacks that just seem scary and wrong. Rather than giving alternative updates for everybody, they're patching individual files and it makes a rat's nest of issues trying to figure out what you can and can't do, especially after doing a system update.

The community needs to fucking get their act together and realize having a single firmware base (With the proper holes left open) which is VERY possible, would do wonders.

I shouldn't have to choose what files to update and learn what each IOS does.
"I'm on 4.0U with IOS61 and IOS249..."
"I'm on 3.2E with bla bla bla..."

Argh...

Yep.

PSP/DS custom firmwares get it right.  Wii is a mess. 

Blaming hobby crackers that their shit isnt user friendly? I dunno dude.

The Wii situation is pretty bad.  I've never seen anything like this.  At some point there will be dozens of variations of system setups that any hacked wii could potentially be on, and there's not going to be anyway to test and make sure these programs work on them all.  This might result in A LOT of bricking eventually.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: cool breeze on October 04, 2009, 08:56:55 PM
DS hacking stuff is shit for everything except pirating games.  Homebrew sucks and there are hardly any advantages that come with it.  The reason the PSP CFW is so good is because it has so many benefits, from making games run better to good homebrew/emulators.  You can play almost every PS1 perfectly on the PSP.  Wii hacking is alright because the loader makes games load faster and there are a couple good emulators (even the hacks that use Nintendo's emulators for VC games).

Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 04, 2009, 09:37:52 PM
http://www.us.playstation.com/PSP/Systems/Compare

:drake
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MCD on October 04, 2009, 09:44:57 PM
DSi is now a PSP system.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 04, 2009, 10:01:29 PM
I'm not messing with homebrew on the Wii for anything other than Gecko OS.  I thought about trying a loader, but there's no Wii games with long load times anyway.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: huckleberry on October 04, 2009, 10:49:26 PM
Quote
They should have rethought the approach and tried again with a PSP2. 


which is, apparently, not too far away. :/




really?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 04, 2009, 11:49:51 PM

The Wii situation is pretty bad.  I've never seen anything like this.  At some point there will be dozens of variations of system setups that any hacked wii could potentially be on, and there's not going to be anyway to test and make sure these programs work on them all.  This might result in A LOT of bricking eventually.

It's getting better, though, kind of.

The WiiSCU update was originally a way to patch the Shop program to the bare minimum so you could still buy games. Now it actually updates the bare minimum for a bunch of channels, but still bricks my Wii if I do a full update.

With some more testing, the WiiSCU could be what I want, a way to uniformly update everything while preserving kernel-level access.

Also, wishing some 6.00 CFW would come out. I want to try the smart playlists I setup in MediaGo.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Bebpo on October 05, 2009, 01:02:18 AM
huh? hacking the Wii was pretty straightforward.

And once it's done it actually makes the machine somewhat sexier (coverflow USB loader is awesome until you start any of the games :( )



Hacking it is, but then 3 months later when you realize there are new official updates and certain games won't work on your current system you have to UPGRADE HACK LEVEL which is confusing and painful.

I'm on
4.0J with ISO249 patched, IOS55 hack, Hermes 222/233 patch....I think ^^;
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 05, 2009, 02:49:27 AM
I'm on
4.0J with ISO249 patched, IOS55 hack, Hermes 222/233 patch....I think ^^;

:lol

He's not joking.

249 is a copy of 36, which you have to use TBR to copy over, but only after downgrading, then loading IOS15, then patching 36 to copy to 249 and then restoring IOS15. 55 and the Hermes patch are real, too. (Which requires running TBR a minimum of 3 times, which makes me want to stab ponies)

Basically keeping up to date and homebrew is impossible. You just start patching when a game breaks, which is a HORRIBLE method.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 05, 2009, 04:41:12 AM
 :-\  That sounds terrible.  All I want to do is get and play New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom 1.5 in the coming months...I hope I don't have to go back to paying more to import the J-versions just because of homebrew fuck-ups. 

Or does it not matter when you're using Gecko OS to boot games?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 05, 2009, 04:51:13 AM
I know he's not. It's just that the current state of Wii homebrew is ridiculous.

Amount of time spent patching is inverse to the time spent having a good time with a Wii
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 05, 2009, 05:01:56 AM
PSP GO UPDATE FROM AUSTRALIA

There's a Dissidia demo. But not the full game so you can't play it if you like it.

The Prinny game isn't available, but Prinny DLC is there though.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 05, 2009, 11:05:44 AM
Once you hack your wii can you update to the latest Nintendo firmware and just have a legit console again, or will that brick it?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Trent Dole on October 05, 2009, 12:25:54 PM
Once you hack your wii can you update to the latest Nintendo firmware and just have a legit console again, or will that brick it?
Muramasa made me run some update thing before I could play it but I still can install wads so...  ???
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 05, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
I dunno, I don't really wanna hack my wii anymore I just want it to be legit again and possibly sell it. I got it in May and only played it like four times  :'(
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: maxy on October 05, 2009, 12:33:26 PM
Sony

Quote
Sony: PSPgo sales "in line with expectations"

Sony has told GamesIndustry.biz that sales of PSP hardware are up over 120 per cent in the UK, following the launch of the PSPgo.

Sales of the PSP-3000 have also grown, as the hardware benefits from the release of the long-awaited Gran Turismo for PSP on UMD and EA's FIFA 10, which this weekend broke records for the franchise.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/sony-pspgo-sales-in-line-with-expectations (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/sony-pspgo-sales-in-line-with-expectations)




Reality

Quote
Barely three days after its launch, the PSPgo has already received a £25 price cut at major retailers such as Amazon.co.uk, Game.com, HMV.com and Play.com.

http://worthplaying.com/article/2009/10/5/news/69054/ (http://worthplaying.com/article/2009/10/5/news/69054/)


Maybe they expected nothing so they are satisfied with nothing.

 :rofl
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: The Innocent X on October 05, 2009, 12:44:13 PM
Pretty awful launch, just about sold as many as the old version in launch week?

Needs to be £150 to stand a chance.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: maxy on October 05, 2009, 12:49:43 PM
And something for Wii and DS hackers

Quote
Nintendo has outlined to Eurogamer a worldwide effort to clamp down on sales of illegal Wii and DS game copiers such as the infamous R4.

The push starts at home, in Japan, where a civil action has been filed against a quartet of companies selling the crafty copiers. Nintendo demands that import and sale of the devices must stop immediately and damages be paid.

The Mario-maker is doing this to help partners "who spend time and money legitimately developing software" for the Wii and DS, not just itself.

Nintendo needs your help, too: "It's getting increasingly difficult to track down R4 sellers as day by day they get more ingenious, flourishing online and complicating matters," wrote the company in a statement (translated by Kotaku). The result: asking Japanese people to fill out an anonymous form should they encounter a naughty seller, pin-pointing their location, URL or even sharing their names.

Here in Europe, Nintendo told us the push is equally hard, with 300 actions "supported" across 16 countries since 2008. That drive, incidentally, netted 200,000 contraband copiers.

Countries under scrutiny include Australia, Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Italy, Japan, Korea, the Netherlands and New Zealand, plus Singapore, Spain, Taiwan, the UK and the US. Nintendo is working with Chinese police to "pursue" the (presumably moving) factories responsible for making the "infringing devices".

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nintendo-reports-on-global-r4-battle (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/nintendo-reports-on-global-r4-battle)
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: The Innocent X on October 05, 2009, 12:53:22 PM
DS piracy has gotten so bad even regular internet computer shops sell R4.

Nintendo never do anything much though. Certainly never spent any money on protecting their consoles sufficiently.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 05, 2009, 01:42:26 PM
I remember the first day my local Gamestop opened, a mother and a kid was in there and she was asking the gamestop guy how to put pirated games on the R4 cart that "she got in korea from some guy on the street", and if the gamestop guy could do it. He tried his best to make up an excuse.  :lol

 :lol :lol hillbillies
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 05, 2009, 04:21:56 PM
Once you hack your wii can you update to the latest Nintendo firmware and just have a legit console again, or will that brick it?

You'd want to read up and make sure, but generally installing the latest firmware will overwrite all the CFW stuff.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 05, 2009, 05:05:23 PM
I remember the first day my local Gamestop opened, a mother and a kid was in there and she was asking the gamestop guy how to put pirated games on the R4 cart that "she got in korea from some guy on the street", and if the gamestop guy could do it. He tried his best to make up an excuse.  :lol

 :lol :lol hillbillies

I was pretty shocked recently when I saw how many people had been running R4 carts on their DS. I mean, piracy is nuts on the DS. From what I've seen, I've never seen it as bad since the PS1, which required 'knowing' someone.

The barrier of entry is so low.

Bla bla sales of PSP games.

Once you hack your wii can you update to the latest Nintendo firmware and just have a legit console again, or will that brick it?

Up to 4.1, it just deleted the Twilight Hack. With 4.2 it clears out a bunch of shit, but apparently leaves a few remnants behind from what I understand. I'm tempted to go to 4.2 just to be clean, then re-hack.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: demi on October 05, 2009, 06:01:48 PM
Once you hack your wii can you update to the latest Nintendo firmware and just have a legit console again, or will that brick it?

You'd want to read up and make sure, but generally installing the latest firmware will overwrite all the CFW stuff.

That's not true... your cIOS files and such are still there.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 05, 2009, 06:03:05 PM
It would be in sellable condition, though, right?  Nobody would notice.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 06, 2009, 05:36:29 PM
And here is PSP Go flaw #450450: If the PSN store is down, you can't transfer games or media to your system, because PSN has to verify it first.   :lol

Quote from: Keyser Soze
Just had a real life fight (well voices were raised and I was gesturing wildly) about the PSP Go, and why it is awesome. The "fight" was actually with a good friend of mine. I am amazed how people can so vigorously and passionately hate lovely little thing.

*comes to thread for sanctuary*

Quote from: LiveFromKyoto
PSPgo owners are the Anne Franks of the gaming world.

Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MCD on October 06, 2009, 05:44:23 PM
isn't he a joke character?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 06, 2009, 06:06:36 PM
And here is PSP Go flaw #450450: If the PSN store is down, you can't transfer games or media to your system, because PSN has to verify it first.   :lol

Are you sure? I can test to verify, but I bet it only has to be done the first time the PSP is authorized with that PSN account. (As there's a 5 device limit)

Although given that you could use it as a workaround, I wouldn't be too surprised.

It would be in sellable condition, though, right?  Nobody would notice.
As far as we know, it wouldn't stop anything. Nintendo doesn't ban consoles or anything, they just brick random ones in an attempt to blindly defeat piracy.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: ManaByte on October 07, 2009, 01:58:07 PM
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Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 07, 2009, 05:24:30 PM
And here is PSP Go flaw #450450: If the PSN store is down, you can't transfer games or media to your system, because PSN has to verify it first.   :lol

Are you sure? I can test to verify, but I bet it only has to be done the first time the PSP is authorized with that PSN account. (As there's a 5 device limit)

Although given that you could use it as a workaround, I wouldn't be too surprised.

That nugget o' info came right from Mr. PSP Go, Abrader, himself.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 08, 2009, 12:45:28 AM
bigger screen, too :lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MCD on October 08, 2009, 12:45:59 AM
mp5 :o
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 07:06:55 AM
Quote from: WhiteAce
yup, i ordered my whitey from the US and it came to 166 GBP (or 22,000 yen).

Even with 3 games for free , you'd still have around 70 GBP to spend which would most likely get you three games WITHOUT the limited choice.

USA USA USA USA! ;)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  :'(
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 08, 2009, 07:57:52 AM
i think we need a new XFE
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: originalz on October 08, 2009, 08:28:25 AM
If anyone is planning on buying a PSP GO, I recommend getting a PXP GO:

(http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pxp_2000_psp_go_fake.jpg)
http://chinagrabber.com/4-3-slide-panel-retro-gamer-game-mp5-player-w-camera-mp4---pxp-2000.aspx (http://chinagrabber.com/4-3-slide-panel-retro-gamer-game-mp5-player-w-camera-mp4---pxp-2000.aspx)

Built in memory, supports MicroSD Cards, NES Emulator, Built-in camera(takes video), multiple codec support including FLAC, AV out(comes with AV cables), E-Book reader, and an English to Chinese dictionary.

Only $84.

I think I've seen one of those before.  I was in an airport and saw a kid playing a PSP Go, this was like a month before they were released.  I was all impressed, but upon closer look I noticed it was a Chinese ripoff thing.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MCD on October 08, 2009, 10:15:45 AM
Dcharlie, The Fallen XFE.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MCD on October 08, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
I love buying gadgets and electronic stuff but PSP Go is really shite.

not worth it.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 08, 2009, 06:27:50 PM
I didn't realize how small it was until I saw the box today at Wal-Mart. Holy shit.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 08, 2009, 07:35:19 PM
p.s. is now a good time to mention i own an Aibo?



that's fine, one of my friends programs them to play soccer. at least they have a function
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 08:07:27 PM
somebody needs to assassinate the emperor and take his place!
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 08:15:11 PM
XFE send me one of your many older PSPs. My birthday was last week. Give it to Slime when he sees you for transfer.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 08, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
More PSP go lulz from Australia

Six new games this week.

Prinny US - $9.95
Prinny UK - THIRTY TWO POUNDS

Monster Hunter has already been cut in price significantly from week one, way to screw the early adopters.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 09, 2009, 03:04:25 AM
I love PSP to death

And that's why there's not an icicle's chance of me picking one up

Try again Sony
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: GoofyGoober on October 09, 2009, 06:04:11 PM
I want one so that it can actually be portable. I.E. I can stick it in my pocket like my DSL. But they have a way to go with the pricing of not just the unit but the games. I got Mana Khemia on UMD for $5 from BB on clearance. I just picked up GOWCOO for $10 from Target clearance, also got Patapon 2 for $5. It takes forever for them to reduce the price of the DD, even then it's typically just sale, which is okay if the prices are great like Prinny.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2009, 12:03:28 PM
Another day, another PSP Go fail:

Quote
What do Undead Knights, Naruto Shippuden: Legends: Akatsuki Rising, NBA 2K10, Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Republic Heroes and Cars: Race O Rama have in common? All of these are PSP games released on UMD after the PSP Go's October 1 launch -- and all are currently without a digital equivalent. Owners of the Go system are unable to play these games because they simply aren't unavailable on the PlayStation Store.

Once again, Sony's hands-off approach to the PlayStation Network means third parties are responsible for getting their content on both UMD and the PlayStation Store. "It's up to individual third parties to decide if and when to publish their UMD releases on PSN. Most, if not all, are on board, as this is a revenue opportunity for them," we were told by Eric Lempel, SCEA's director of PlayStation Network operations. Namco, the one publisher that returned our request for comment, noted specifically that "there are currently no plans to release Akatsuki Rising on PSN right now," despite its October 6 release on UMD.

We highly encourage Sony to make simultaneous digital releases of PSP games a requirement for publishers, not merely a suggestion. The company previously issued a mandate for PS3 games to include trophies in 2009 -- a similar policy must be enforced on the PSP. Without it, there's no guarantee that all future PSP games will ever be playable on the PSP Go.

this, above all the other flaws, is completely unacceptable

from psp go launch onward third parties should have been required to have a version of their games ready for the psn store - if not on release day (to appease the retail stores), then at least the week afterward

if the psp go fails (and i am almost completely convinced it will), it'll be because of things like pricing and this, and it will be a deserved failure
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 16, 2009, 05:51:02 PM
Undead Knights IS on the PSN. I downloaded it for free. They took it down quickly after and didn't put it back up yet.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Agent Whiskers on October 16, 2009, 05:58:44 PM
I've had one since launch and i'm loving it. Finished God of War: CoO and Resistance Retribution (both great games) and just started Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow on my flight back from work earlier today. My favorite adjustment is the analog nub. It's much friendlier on the thumb than the previous iterations and its placement is perfect.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 16, 2009, 06:43:56 PM
Another day, another PSP Go fail:

Quote
What do Undead Knights, Naruto Shippuden: Legends: Akatsuki Rising, NBA 2K10, Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Republic Heroes and Cars: Race O Rama have in common? All of these are PSP games released on UMD after the PSP Go's October 1 launch -- and all are currently without a digital equivalent. Owners of the Go system are unable to play these games because they simply aren't unavailable on the PlayStation Store.

Once again, Sony's hands-off approach to the PlayStation Network means third parties are responsible for getting their content on both UMD and the PlayStation Store. "It's up to individual third parties to decide if and when to publish their UMD releases on PSN. Most, if not all, are on board, as this is a revenue opportunity for them," we were told by Eric Lempel, SCEA's director of PlayStation Network operations. Namco, the one publisher that returned our request for comment, noted specifically that "there are currently no plans to release Akatsuki Rising on PSN right now," despite its October 6 release on UMD.

We highly encourage Sony to make simultaneous digital releases of PSP games a requirement for publishers, not merely a suggestion. The company previously issued a mandate for PS3 games to include trophies in 2009 -- a similar policy must be enforced on the PSP. Without it, there's no guarantee that all future PSP games will ever be playable on the PSP Go.

this, above all the other flaws, is completely unacceptable

from psp go launch onward third parties should have been required to have a version of their games ready for the psn store - if not on release day (to appease the retail stores), then at least the week afterward

if the psp go fails (and i am almost completely convinced it will), it'll be because of things like pricing and this, and it will be a deserved failure

The PSP Go will probably sell a couple of million until it gets phased out and then never mentioned again.

Sony probably proposed something like requiring an online version to third parties but those third parties knew better than to waste money on this failure and probably made Sony renege on that.  I pulled that out of my ass but it is the only rational explanation I can think of.

The Go is such a clusterfuck.  I had no idea Sony was willing to burn through tens of millions of dollars on this failure of a project or had tens of millions of dollars to burn through in general.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 17, 2009, 10:48:32 AM
Undead Knights IS on the PSN. I downloaded it for free. They took it down quickly after and didn't put it back up yet.

Is it still available for re-download for you?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 17, 2009, 11:19:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZmD_KKnVv8

:rofl
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 17, 2009, 11:25:03 PM
:lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 18, 2009, 02:14:31 AM
Undead Knights IS on the PSN. I downloaded it for free. They took it down quickly after and didn't put it back up yet.

Is it still available for re-download for you?
Nope.

The only other thing I've EVER seen removed from the Playstation store ENTIRELY was the Lair demo.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: chronovore on October 18, 2009, 05:40:28 AM
:rofl @Mega64 - up until the popping of the UMD case, I could actually picture a normal consumer going through those motions, and probably feeling about as pissed off.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 18, 2009, 12:32:43 PM
Undead Knights IS on the PSN. I downloaded it for free. They took it down quickly after and didn't put it back up yet.

Is it still available for re-download for you?
Nope.

The only other thing I've EVER seen removed from the Playstation store ENTIRELY was the Lair demo.

I don't like the idea of Sony exercising their capability of completely removing shit you've downloaded.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 18, 2009, 03:16:06 PM
In both cases they've been free.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: GoofyGoober on October 18, 2009, 04:08:52 PM
The mega64 video has to be the best use of a PSPGo ever.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: bork on October 19, 2009, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: WhiteAce
yup - love mine too. <3 <3 <3

 :o
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MCD on October 19, 2009, 01:00:00 PM
I might be able to get this at a decent price by next year but coming from a PSP1000fag how much of an improvement this is? what games are available right now and will new games be available on day 1?

and last can I play games offline?

my internet visa is itching me to buy more digital garbage.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Purple Filth on October 19, 2009, 03:17:37 PM
I'm thinking about getting a PSP 3000 now since I have the points on Lockerz, all PSP titles on PSN will work for the other PSPs, yeah?


why wouldn't it. Digital PSP games have been there long before the PSP GO


I might be able to get this at a decent price by next year but coming from a PSP1000fag how much of an improvement this is? if you like the smaller form factor , better (though slightly smaller) screen, convenience and sometimes shit cost of DD games then its ok

 what games are available right now and will new games be available on day 1? Green Man answered the first section and as for the second it all depends on Sony (haven't been doing a really stellar job so far but hopefully they can improve on this ).

and last can I play games offline? didn't stop you before so i have no idea why it would now.

my internet visa is itching me to buy more digital garbage.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MCD on October 19, 2009, 03:48:34 PM
thanks GM and Purple.

by playing games offline I meant do i need to sync my digital games before playing or can I just play with no online/license issues/etc?
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: Purple Filth on October 19, 2009, 04:08:59 PM
thanks GM and Purple.

by playing games offline I meant do i need to sync my digital games before playing or can I just play with no online/license issues/etc?

it think its just find game, pay, download then play as normal, the only issue i see is that "one account at a time" thing the PSP platform still has.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: MCD on October 19, 2009, 05:23:43 PM
alright.

thanks bros.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: pilonv1 on October 19, 2009, 06:56:17 PM
Quote from: WhiteAce
yup - love mine too. <3 <3 <3

 :o


burn him he's a witch
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 20, 2009, 02:31:47 PM
lol
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: chronovore on October 20, 2009, 08:25:35 PM
Which means there are probably a lot of people trying to figure out how to insert a UMD in their new Go right about now.
Title: Re: PSP Go
Post by: GoofyGoober on October 20, 2009, 10:47:33 PM
Well 30K more then I thought they would sell. It would certainly explain the Amazon sale along with the Fry's sale. I saw on some site were it was less then 1000 sold in Australia, but Sony fired back with "no, you must be mistaken it's sold slightly over 1000 units".