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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Agent Whiskers on September 18, 2009, 03:38:36 PM

Title: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Agent Whiskers on September 18, 2009, 03:38:36 PM
So Halo 3: ODST is out in Saudi and I managed to get my grubby paws on a copy. Will follow up with impressions soon. In the meantime, let us criticize the Halo franchise because it's the cool thing to do.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 18, 2009, 04:28:52 PM
oh, std
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: ManaByte on September 18, 2009, 04:30:35 PM
Thread title is WIN
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 18, 2009, 04:31:43 PM
Grow up, ManaByte
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: border on September 18, 2009, 04:44:30 PM
How is this game different from Halo 3?

I haven't kept up with it at all, but I watched some of the Justin.TV stream of the leaked copies and it looked pretty much like a re-hash.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 18, 2009, 05:00:35 PM
Short version (because I haven't been following it either)


-There's no Master Chief. You play as an ODST through various gameplay missions that are non-linear in how you take them (I believe this is correct)
-There's no shield, but there is some shield-like system in place so it's not a complete change
-There are health packs
-There is fall damage
-Gameplay centers in and around New Mombasa in the aftermath of the Covenant ship's slipstream exit in Halo 2
-Multiplayer includes all the Halo 3 maps (and DLC) plus three new maps.
-There is a new mode called "Firefight" that is similar to Gears of War 2's Horde mode. 4 player online co-op.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 18, 2009, 05:13:36 PM
Yeah, there's one big hubworld that you explore and then go into flashbacks as you find clues to the story.

So structurally it's different (hub, flashbacks), tone is different (smaller scope, less colorful), perspective/narrative is different (you play different ODST in one city), gameplay is somewhat different (no duel wielding, health packs, weaker character, squads, no BR and AR, visor mode, etc), Firefight (horde with vehicles and skulls)
Graphics are pretty much the same and that's what most distinguished mentally-challenged fellows look at so they think it's a rehash.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 18, 2009, 05:18:51 PM
No BR?


...cancelling pre-order...
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2009, 05:26:18 PM
Why did they think you'd want to play as a normal everyday grunt without half the abilities MC has.  Normally gameplay is added, not removed with expansions ^^;
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 18, 2009, 05:27:05 PM
Getting this  8)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 18, 2009, 05:49:47 PM
Also, the game is on two discs-- ODST is by itself (and can presumably be installed), Halo 3 MP is the other.  I think those three new maps are supposed to be only part of the ODST Halo 3 MP, at least for a period of time, but regardless, it's the same multiplayer and will be compatible with the regular Halo 3.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 18, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
i presume you can install the mythic disc as well
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Herr Mafflard on September 18, 2009, 05:56:50 PM
BR is removed from the campaign and firefight modes. Bungie felt the weapon was overpowered and jumped at the chance to remove it.

Why did they think you'd want to play as a normal everyday grunt without half the abilities MC has.  Normally gameplay is added, not removed with expansions ^^;


I disagree. I think these changes would force players to use a more tactical, team based approach, where it would add diverse gameplay choices rather than keep to the 'run and gun' formula of traditional Halo. Probably a reason why the BR was removed.

It would be interesting to play a more human story. Frankly, I'm tired of this whole saga of epic, superhuman space struggle. Or a love story based on the relationship between a faceless super-soldier and a computer AI.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 18, 2009, 05:58:42 PM
i presume you can install the mythic disc as well

I hope so, but if it's the same as Halo 3, and since you're still playing with Halo 3 players...doubtful.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 18, 2009, 06:02:20 PM
BR is removed from the campaign and firefight modes. Bungie felt the weapon was overpowered and jumped at the chance to remove it.

 >:(

Remove overpowered crap like the energy sword and brute hammer and fluff like the SMG. The BR was the only decent weapon the game.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bebpo on September 18, 2009, 06:07:41 PM
BR is removed from the campaign and firefight modes. Bungie felt the weapon was overpowered and jumped at the chance to remove it.

Why did they think you'd want to play as a normal everyday grunt without half the abilities MC has.  Normally gameplay is added, not removed with expansions ^^;


I disagree. I think these changes would force players to use a more tactical, team based approach, where it would add diverse gameplay choices rather than keep to the 'run and gun' formula of traditional Halo. Probably a reason why the BR was removed.

Well the AI teammates better be damn good then.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Herr Mafflard on September 18, 2009, 06:11:20 PM
BR is removed from the campaign and firefight modes. Bungie felt the weapon was overpowered and jumped at the chance to remove it.

 >:(

Remove overpowered crap like the energy sword and brute hammer and fluff like the SMG. The BR was the only decent weapon the game.

I'm pretty sure regular soldiers can't use energy swords and brute hammers anyway. I reckon since the SMG can't be dual-wielded, they will tweak it slightly so that you actually have a chance of inflicting some hurt with the damn thing.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 18, 2009, 06:54:57 PM
$20 gift card + fruity action toy (lyte edge alert) if you buy at TRU
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 18, 2009, 07:09:02 PM
do you have to preorder it at tru to get it?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Third on September 18, 2009, 07:15:33 PM
Where are the reviews for this game?

And no, shitty reviews coming from obscure blog sites don't count.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 18, 2009, 07:20:20 PM
do you have to preorder it at tru to get it?

No
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 18, 2009, 07:32:57 PM
$20 gift card + fruity action toy (lyte edge alert) if you buy at TRU

What do I care?  It's not animu.  :smug
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 18, 2009, 07:34:37 PM
You will care when you see them in Halo Legends
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 18, 2009, 07:52:32 PM
I had a hard time getting through that five minute clip that was posted.   :lol

I really only play Halo for its multiplayer.  Don't care about the campaign stuff.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Agent Whiskers on September 18, 2009, 08:31:16 PM
Okay so I started playing the game and immediately noticed the graphics are much better this time around. Not significantly overhauled but noticeably sharper. Character animations are pretty average and the facial animations are a bit wonky at times. Nathan Fillion's voice stood out the most among the crew members. Nothing out of the ordinary with the voice acting though.

Gameplay is (surprise!) Halo at its core, just with health packs that you pick up from med stations instead of regenerating shields. The VISR (which helps you differentiate between your enemies from friendlies) is pretty standard fare especially considering how tired my eyes were after utilizing Batman's detective mode for extended periods of time. It does help that it's easier on the eyes though.

I'm still at the very beginning and I don't know where the fuck i'm going. So far so average but here's hoping it gets much better.

Edit: Just realized that pressing up on the dpad shows the next location
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 18, 2009, 08:33:48 PM
demi whered you see that offer?

was it in the paper or something?

im not seeing anything about it on the site:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3602646&fromWidget=TRU%3ACategory%3ATop+Sellers
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Agent Whiskers on September 18, 2009, 08:40:44 PM
More details: this game is much darker than Halo 3. It's pretty grim-looking; almost post-apocalyptic. And the music is great as always and really adds something special to the dank atmosphere. I'm now in Tayari Plaza packing a shotgun searching for an ODST squadmate. It's at least starting to pick up.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 18, 2009, 08:44:10 PM
demi whered you see that offer?

was it in the paper or something?

im not seeing anything about it on the site:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3602646&fromWidget=TRU%3ACategory%3ATop+Sellers

It will be in the ad on Sunday
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Mrbob on September 18, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
I can't believe how uninterested I am for this title.  I've been there day one for Halo, Halo 2, and Halo 3.  I'm trying to find the spark but it just isn't there. 

If I had a Toys 'R Us near me I might have bit for the gift card.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 18, 2009, 10:38:33 PM
Why is everyone bitching about the BR, they brought back a scoped pistol.

Review embargo ends tomorrow night iirc.

i presume you can install the mythic disc as well

Yea but Halo 3 runs worse when installed than when not. ODST is optimized for game installations.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 19, 2009, 01:14:55 PM
Best Halo story recap so far! Pretty funny.
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/852871/bungie-project-2/videos/halo_in5_spc_091809.html

Well done IGN
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 19, 2009, 01:48:02 PM
Yea but Halo 3 runs worse when installed than when not. ODST is optimized for game installations.

i would have hoped that theyd fixed that for the mythic disc
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 19, 2009, 02:34:04 PM
I'm not day 1 on this, but I will play it at some point.  I'm just wondering if it's the same upscaled from sub-hd bullshit.  I found Halo 3's image quality to be pretty fucking atrocious.  It has that blurry-yet-jaggy quality that's so prevalent this gen.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 19, 2009, 02:36:23 PM
Plopped down a fiver at TRU  8)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 19, 2009, 02:38:59 PM
Plopped down a fiver at TRU  8)
Jesus, you're rich. What do you do for a living?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 19, 2009, 02:40:22 PM
he's an actor, can't you tell from his avatars?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 19, 2009, 02:44:38 PM
demi is mysterious.   astronomical gamer score that would take an unimaginable commitment of time to get, yet appears to have a steady source of income to buy everything with.  :lol 
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 19, 2009, 03:00:47 PM
my friend on msn just told me to listen to this track called Deference for Darkness:

https://www.sumthingdigital.com/AlbumDetails.aspx?albumid=4421

sooo good.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 19, 2009, 03:06:32 PM
My guess is that demi sells his poohole for money.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 19, 2009, 03:08:58 PM
Um... it's just a videogame. How am I rich? :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 19, 2009, 03:59:35 PM
Dude on my friends list is playing this right now.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Works at IGN. Or I assume he still works there, it's not like I read it. Not really a friend, either. Played Halo 2 together once.
[close]
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 19, 2009, 04:37:26 PM
demi is mysterious.   astronomical gamer score that would take an unimaginable commitment of time to get, yet appears to have a steady source of income to buy everything with.  :lol 

I'm thinking trust fund left by jet-setting parents who were killed in mysterious accident while on safari in sub-Saharan Africa.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 19, 2009, 04:52:12 PM
Um... it's just a videogame. How am I rich? :lol
Tieno is useless, don't mind him.
that's mean  :'(
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 19, 2009, 05:00:50 PM
Tieno didnt you buy a Mac recently? R U RICH?  ???
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 19, 2009, 05:43:32 PM
Tieno didnt you buy a Mac recently? R U RICH?  ???
I live in Europe :smug
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 19, 2009, 05:46:54 PM
Tieno didnt you buy a Mac recently? R U RICH?  ???
I live in Europe :smug

Oh, right.

Tieno didn't your socialist government buy you a Mac recently? IS UR GUBMINT RICH?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 19, 2009, 05:50:54 PM
Belgium is broke as shit, fucking wallons holding us back.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 19, 2009, 10:36:58 PM
Yea but Halo 3 runs worse when installed than when not. ODST is optimized for game installations.

i would have hoped that theyd fixed that for the mythic disc

How would they have, it's the same game. ODST is the new game and that has it fixed.

Why would you wanna install it anyway? Since when are load times an issue in multiplayer? I'm looking forward to deleting all the DLC taking up space on the hard drive and just running the disc.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 19, 2009, 11:51:57 PM
i only like to played installed games

makes me feel like my 360 isnt a ticking time bomb
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Trent Dole on September 19, 2009, 11:57:01 PM
i only like to played installed games

makes me feel like my 360 isnt a ticking time bomb
I installed all my stuff and my 360 died anyway~
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 20, 2009, 01:33:33 AM
For you review-minded people

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/102/1025307p1.html
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 20, 2009, 01:36:59 AM
A 9 in graphics, lulz
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 20, 2009, 01:37:54 AM
Yeah, but the scale starts at 7. So that's really like a 6.5.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 20, 2009, 02:13:32 AM
I only read the last bit but the guy does say it's because of the art direction.  Whatever.  It's not a bad looking game, just not a really good looking games.  It fits somewhere between passable graphics and good graphics.  Only thing I care to know about from reviews is how they deal with multiplayer.  Do they judge horde or everything? it basically includes Halo 3 multiplayer, right? it's good multiplayer, but it's a straight rip from Halo 3. 

Ordered it on Amazon a week or so ago.  I'm hoping this Amazon day and date delivery thing works.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:21:30 AM
What's more lulzy is that Halo fanboys would make for damned good PS3 fanboys if they ever needed to switch sides. Same need to defend the indefensible, and apparently the same desire to see certain review sources removed from the tally.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 20, 2009, 02:23:42 AM
A comment on the IGN review:

"9/10? wtf? I saw a video of this game and it deserved at least a 10/10. this is shoutrageous and slutterly bignorant of YOU!!!"

... was that written by Father_Mike? :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 20, 2009, 02:24:23 AM
Halo baby, Halo

Get hype  8)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 20, 2009, 02:25:36 AM
Willco-san destroyed...
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 20, 2009, 02:26:48 AM
I got back on XBL today to get back into the swing of it. My last game was in March, and my last real action was February.

Did standard social slayer matchmaking, was no good the first game, slightly better the second, and allright for the last three.

K-D
3-6
6-10
11-4
11-7
8-0

:statwhore
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 20, 2009, 02:31:24 AM
From skimming the review, the one concern I have is about Firefight. Apparently, it will be too overwhelming if you are going to play it alone, you need friends (and there is no matchmaking). I might have one or two people on my list who will play it, but not all the time.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:32:22 AM
I'd play with you, but you refused my FR.  :gun
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 20, 2009, 02:35:51 AM
I didn't know who Laplander831 was at the time. Wasn't my fault.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 20, 2009, 02:37:26 AM
Duckman, talk me down from the hype!

I'm this close to picking up STD at TRU tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:40:33 AM
Duckman, talk me down from the hype!

I'm this close to picking up STD at TRU tomorrow. 

Looking at gameplay clips does it for me. Also, the campaign seems short as hell, 6 hours on Heroic. I imagine that's of no concern if you're into halo MP, though.

edit: Also, it is making Xtards behave like Stards. Buying this will certainly only make that worse.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 20, 2009, 02:41:34 AM
Duckman, talk me down from the hype!

I'm this close to picking up STD at TRU tomorrow. 

Looking at gameplay clips does it for me.


Won't stop you from buying it.

Twice.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 20, 2009, 02:42:16 AM
Duckman, talk me down from the hype!

I'm this close to picking up STD at TRU tomorrow. 

Looking at gameplay clips does it for me.


Won't stop you from buying it.

Twice.

I'll rent it.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 20, 2009, 02:45:47 AM
Who wants to 4p this bad boy. Legendary only.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Smooth Groove on September 20, 2009, 02:51:49 AM
Who wants to 4p this bad boy. Legendary only.

You wanna be even more legendary by protecting my sorry ass? 
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 20, 2009, 03:55:54 AM
hater duckman still gonna play Halo, it's that good 8)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Third on September 20, 2009, 06:00:18 AM
A 9 in graphics, lulz

So, basically the ODST graphics are better than Batman's, since Batman received a 8.5 in graphics.

moneyhat confirmed.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 20, 2009, 12:53:23 PM
just found the tru ad in the newspaper

im gonna take it there in case they try to sass me
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 20, 2009, 02:04:46 PM
(http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae242/drewsy_photobucket2/Picture19.png)

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-halo-3-odst/56112
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 20, 2009, 03:16:24 PM
Alo 3's campaign was only 6 hours for me anyway. And I hve homies for firefight :rock

Surprised it is reviewing so well
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 20, 2009, 03:31:14 PM
I would like to play this game quite a bit.

Halo 1 is pretty great.
Halo 2 was garbage.

But then Halo 3 was pretty good.

This concept and design of this game interests me. Especially since it's all on Earf. Maybz i'll rent it around Winter.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 20, 2009, 05:21:58 PM
giantbomb video review says the game still runs when your in the map

i hate when games do that
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 20, 2009, 06:58:17 PM
Alo 3's campaign was only 6 hours for me anyway. And I hve homies for firefight :rock

Surprised it is reviewing so well
Surprised a Halo game is good? smh, smh, smh

Bungie rules, Halo is good.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: fistfulofmetal on September 20, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
isn't Reach next fall? I'm looking forward to that a great deal.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 20, 2009, 09:45:15 PM
Alo 3's campaign was only 6 hours for me anyway. And I hve homies for firefight :rock

Surprised it is reviewing so well
Surprised a Halo game is good? smh, smh, smh

Bungie rules, Halo is good.

No, I said I'm surprised it was reviewing so well.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: GilloD on September 21, 2009, 12:51:07 AM
I have never played a Halo game. LIES. I played Halo 1 and it suckedsuckedsucked. Half of the game was the first half in reverse! Boring environments etc etc. I never caught the bug :(
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: SantaC on September 21, 2009, 02:50:26 AM
Halo baby, Halo

Get hype  8)

$60 for an expansion pack! Rip-off ahoy!
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 21, 2009, 03:00:16 AM
I bought a Wii man. I know rip-offs... and this aint a ripoff.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 21, 2009, 04:48:36 AM
Halo baby, Halo

Get hype  8)

$60 for an expansion pack! Rip-off ahoy!

Awful troll attempt.  "Expansion pack," lol.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: SantaC on September 21, 2009, 05:25:57 AM
Halo baby, Halo

Get hype  8)

$60 for an expansion pack! Rip-off ahoy!

Awful troll attempt.  "Expansion pack," lol.

How is it a troll attempt when even reviewers think the $60 price tag is a rip-off?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 21, 2009, 05:33:52 AM
how is it not a troll attempt when even demi doesn't think it's a ripoff
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 21, 2009, 05:34:02 AM
So the game is getting high marks, but it's a "rip-off?"  What are you talking about?   :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: SantaC on September 21, 2009, 05:52:25 AM
So the game is getting high marks, but it's a "rip-off?"  What are you talking about?   :lol

high marks? Not compared to the previous games.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 21, 2009, 05:58:12 AM
So the game is getting high marks, but it's a "rip-off?"  What are you talking about?   :lol

high marks? Not compared to the previous games.

It's not a full-on sequel, either.

Who fucking cares, anyway?  By now everyone knows if they like Halo or not.

As for the price, sure I'd prefer it were less, but I'd prefer it if EVERY game were priced less.   :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Third on September 21, 2009, 08:04:20 AM
Quote
The hope was for something new, or at least interesting, but it just isn't there. If this game actually succeeds at retail it'll be because it's carried by the Halo name; were it simply called FPS X it would be cast aside nearly immediately as a mediocre release.

The Good

    * New campaign missions adds to the Halo story
    * New multiplayer maps, two new weapons in single-player
    * Good voice acting, with some funny lines
    * All released Halo 3 multiplayer content on one disc
    * Firefight mode is a blast


The Bad

    * Short campaign
    * Sub-par graphics
    * Rehashed multiplayer
    * Cheesy music
    * Set pieces lifted from past games
    * Linear game play in missions
    * Hub level used to pad length
    * Low value for the money
    * Co-op that breaks the game's internal logic


The Ugly

    * The fanboys reaction to a panned Halo game, on both sides of the fence
    * Microsoft learning it can get away with charging $60 for $30 worth of new content

Verdict: Rent


http://arstechnica.com/gaming/reviews/2009/09/the-60-expansion-pack-halo-3-odst-underwhelms.ars/2

Best review so far, imo.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: maxy on September 21, 2009, 09:56:00 AM
Quote

some review,blah,blah,etc,zzzz

Best review so far, imo.

Hmm,i suppose that imo means that you already have the game,played it through the end...so enlighten us with your review...what is your verdict?

Sucky or yucky?



Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 21, 2009, 10:26:58 AM
ars technica dropping the truth. 
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: SantaC on September 21, 2009, 10:31:14 AM
Halo was a fine fps when it came out like 8 years ago, but today the market is flooded with them and I think other fps games does a better job now.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 21, 2009, 10:41:38 AM
lulz at the ODST avatars, overdone OP and review/troll attack force on forums elsewhere.

You know, with Reach in development, I wonder if that teaser at the end of Halo 3 will ever translate into a game. I wouldn't mind playing as Master Chief in a brand new sci-fi romp, although hopefully it doesn't become overburdened with backstory like Halo.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Third on September 21, 2009, 10:58:41 AM
Quote

some review,blah,blah,etc,zzzz

Best review so far, imo.

Hmm,i suppose that imo means that you already have the game,played it through the end...so enlighten us with your review...what is your verdict?

Sucky or yucky?





Yep, played the game almost three weeks ago. Only the campagin. Even COD3 is better than this shit.

Don't have any comment on the MP. But I guess it's just the same old Halo 2 mp gameplay with added Firefight mode.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 21, 2009, 11:17:39 AM
lulz at the ODST avatars, overdone OP and review/troll attack force on forums elsewhere.

You know, with Reach in development, I wonder if that teaser at the end of Halo 3 will ever translate into a game. I wouldn't mind playing as Master Chief in a brand new sci-fi romp, although hopefully it doesn't become overburdened with backstory like Halo.

Genuine.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 21, 2009, 11:31:59 AM
lulz at the ODST avatars, overdone OP and review/troll attack force on forums elsewhere.

You know, with Reach in development, I wonder if that teaser at the end of Halo 3 will ever translate into a game. I wouldn't mind playing as Master Chief in a brand new sci-fi romp, although hopefully it doesn't become overburdened with backstory like Halo.


Maybe the Bungie of yesteryear could have done something. But after Halo 2 and 3 just devolved into "lol, cults," I don't have much faith in them. So much wasted story potential.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 21, 2009, 11:34:52 AM
I really wish I'd paid more attention to Halo's story back in 2002 so I could relate to people who thought it was so good. I have a hard time telling the difference quality-wise between the plot of one game and another. I never paid attention.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 21, 2009, 11:37:24 AM
Good is a relative term and your mileage may vary. The novels and the first game just seemed to set the stage for something far better than what eventually transpired. The tension at the end of First Strike (bridged the gap between Halo 1 and Halo 2) was so high and then...

Guh.

For example, you didn't really think the Prophets just wanted to set off the rings, right? I mean, if you had read the books, with the mystery of the Forerunners and the power of the artifacts and the way the Covenant systematically hunted and destroyed human colony worlds, no way it was just about some "Great Journey" of galactic annihilation?

Turns out, it was.  :-\
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 21, 2009, 11:45:37 AM
I don't think I knew there were prophets when I played Halo 1 lol. Maybe this has more to do with the books?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: tehjaybo on September 21, 2009, 11:46:59 AM
Good is a relative term and your mileage may vary. The novels and the first game just seemed to set the stage for something far better than what eventually transpired. The tension at the end of First Strike (bridged the gap between Halo 1 and Halo 2) was so high and then...

Guh.

For example, you didn't really think the Prophets just wanted to set off the rings, right? I mean, if you had read the books, with the mystery of the Forerunners and the power of the artifacts and the way the Covenant systematically hunted and destroyed human colony worlds, no way it was just about some "Great Journey" of galactic annihilation?

Turns out, it was.  :-\

They were religious zealots.  They would do anything to accomplish the goal of "salvation".  I think it fits, if you get into lore. 

Also, if I had money, I would be picking this up.  As is, I may get it friday when I get paid.  I have a reserve on it.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 21, 2009, 11:50:35 AM
I don't think I knew there were prophets when I played Halo 1 lol. Maybe this has more to do with the books?

The prophets were first introduced in First Strike.

The Fall of Reach was the novel that preceded Halo 1 and told the story of the Master Chief's and the fellow Spartans' training from childhood and onward. It ultimately introduced the Covenant and ended with the battle of Reach. Master Chief got separated from the remainder of the surviving Spartans and eventually ended up on the Pillar of Autumn at the first Halo...

[game]

First Strike picks up after the conclusion of the game and details how Master Chief got away from the destroyed ring (not to mention how Sgt. Johnson survived), and took the Chief back to Reach to search for any survivors and somewhere along the way they learn of the looming Covenant threat to Earth. Yadda yadda yadda, big explosions...

[game]

Of course, within minutes of even starting Halo 2, you could see inconsistencies creeping in.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 21, 2009, 12:04:00 PM
Are the books still worth checking out then? I know my friend has them, I could borrow them if they are good.

How actively involved was Bungie in the books?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 21, 2009, 12:12:53 PM
Even if the campaign is good, I agree it's pretty much a ripoff at $60.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 21, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
Are the books still worth checking out then? I know my friend has them, I could borrow them if they are good.

How actively involved was Bungie in the books?

They're entertaining. I don't know that I could recommend them, given my opinion of where the story ended up with the games, but whatever. Bungie was involved in story approval and such, although I'm not sure if they guarded it down to the minute detail. (They certainly didn't seem to remain consistent with the details of them.)

The books go Fall of Reach, The Flood, and First Strike. (Before, during, after Halo: Combat Evolved). The Flood is written by a different author and is not quite as good, considering a large bit of it just details what you do during the game. There are other vantage points introduced (focusing on the surviving humans and a ill-matched Elite and Grunt, so those parts are enjoyable.

There are other books, too. Ghosts of Onyx takes place after First Strike and during Halo 2, but does not really have anything to do with the game. Master Chief is not a central character. Contact Harvest takes place before Fall of Reach, and I have not read it.

Fall of Reach, First Strike, and Ghosts of Onyx are all written by Eric Nylund. I kind of wish they gave him the keys to the universe after Halo 1 and Bungie never touched it except for multiplayer.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 21, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
When MAF posted, he said the Nylund books were pretty rad.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 21, 2009, 12:23:23 PM
HALO BABY, HALO

GET HYPE

LONGEST DAY EVER
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: tehjaybo on September 21, 2009, 12:37:23 PM
Are the books still worth checking out then? I know my friend has them, I could borrow them if they are good.

How actively involved was Bungie in the books?

They're entertaining. I don't know that I could recommend them, given my opinion of where the story ended up with the games, but whatever. Bungie was involved in story approval and such, although I'm not sure if they guarded it down to the minute detail. (They certainly didn't seem to remain consistent with the details of them.)

The books go Fall of Reach, The Flood, and First Strike. (Before, during, after Halo: Combat Evolved). The Flood is written by a different author and is not quite as good, considering a large bit of it just details what you do during the game. There are other vantage points introduced (focusing on the surviving humans and a ill-matched Elite and Grunt, so those parts are enjoyable.

There are other books, too. Ghosts of Onyx takes place after First Strike and during Halo 2, but does not really have anything to do with the game. Master Chief is not a central character. Contact Harvest takes place before Fall of Reach, and I have not read it.

Fall of Reach, First Strike, and Ghosts of Onyx are all written by Eric Nylund. I kind of wish they gave him the keys to the universe after Halo 1 and Bungie never touched it except for multiplayer.

I have read them all, and I recommend them.  Also, I have digital copies, if that's what you're into...  PM me and I'll hook you up later.  I think they're on audiobook though. 
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: tehjaybo on September 21, 2009, 12:37:49 PM
Also, I'm working the midnight release tonight at GameStop.   :rock
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 21, 2009, 12:40:05 PM
I haven't preordered a game in forever but since I had a ton of old PS2 and GameCube games sitting around collecting dust, I traded them in for ODST. Got a text message about being there for the midnight release. Yeah... right.

It will still be there when I get off work tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 21, 2009, 12:45:38 PM
Also, I'm working the midnight release tonight at GameStop.   :rock

My brother is pulling the midnight release for GameCrazy.

I will wait until everyone trades it in and I'll buy it used.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Third on September 21, 2009, 01:04:47 PM
EDGE 9

http://www.edge-online.com/features/review-halo-3-odst

Quote
You can easily tolerate these problems. This is Halo.

Quote
a spin-off that’s better than the vast majority of original games.

Oh EDGE  :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 21, 2009, 01:13:12 PM
So, you getting this game Third? It's hard to tell.


Also, why not post the whole quote. Those 'problems' are a shitty ending and bad AI vehicle drivers. Nothing new to the franchise and I doubt that'll be a dealbreaker.

Quote
And don’t place too much emphasis on that six hour figure. Thanks to Microsoft’s restrictive review process, we were forced to play with an eye fixed on finishing the campaign quickly – running from place to place without exploration, and passing checkpoints without taking time to defeat every enemy in an area.

If this is true then it is longer than Halo 3 was. What does MS require of their reviewers??


Quote
The campaign can be played co-operatively with up to four players, and Bungie’s usual metagame offerings are all present and correct – with new skulls and several specific Achievements adding even more longevity. On that note, there are smart Achievements dotted in among the usual level-completion types, a particular tempter asking you to complete a mission without firing a shot or throwing a grenade.

I wonder if there will be some kind of mission select or other quick way of replaying the flashback missions. These achievements could be kind of annoying if they require a full replay of the game.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Third on September 21, 2009, 01:16:35 PM
Nah, finished the campaign. Not interested in the mp.

I'd give the campaign a 7. It's better than Halo 3 campaign, imo.
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Post by: Bebpo on September 21, 2009, 01:35:54 PM
I'd give the campaign a 7. It's better than Halo 3 campaign, imo.

 :o

The H3 campaign outside the Cortana stage is a great FPS campaign.  If this is better then, daaaamn
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 21, 2009, 01:45:18 PM
Halo 3 > Halo 1 > Halo 2 in campaigns

The achievements in this game look even more fun than Halo 3's.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 21, 2009, 02:53:31 PM
EDGE 9

http://www.edge-online.com/features/review-halo-3-odst

Quote
You can easily tolerate these problems. This is Halo.

Quote
a spin-off that’s better than the vast majority of original games.

Oh EDGE  :lol
Bungie :bow2

Edge  :tophat
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 21, 2009, 02:55:17 PM
Man, I should have been the one to spam the 117th reply. :gloomy
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 21, 2009, 03:37:25 PM
(http://i35.tinypic.com/20qbz5.jpg)

smh
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 21, 2009, 03:40:12 PM
THATS HYPE BABY

HALO
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Third on September 21, 2009, 03:55:03 PM
THATS HYPE BABY

HALO
Weird, you didn't get aroused by that fat person.
I thought you liked big men.  :-*
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 21, 2009, 03:56:53 PM
eh, i like them husky, not obese. lots of people get it confused, but its very easy to understand.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: maxy on September 21, 2009, 04:03:55 PM
EDGE-sfag dream destroyer

 :bow EDGE :bow2

Btw,that pic is priceless.


Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FatalT on September 21, 2009, 07:51:17 PM
Psh, those tards. I'm just going to Wal-Mart at midnight and picking it up. Screw waiting in line.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 21, 2009, 07:57:08 PM
the kicker is that best buy will have copies in stock all day

the futility and stupidity of those people is mind blowing
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 21, 2009, 08:00:58 PM
maybe they'll hook up....(that thing in the glasses is a chick right?)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 21, 2009, 08:13:46 PM
Amazon release date delivery seems to be a failure so far.

and 9/10 from Edge and it's not even made in the UK! nah, they're were pretty crazy about Halo 3 too. 
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 21, 2009, 08:41:23 PM
I will co-op the crap out of this with MrSingh as soon as it drops to $29  :-*

Singh + Sho Nuff + Halo co-op = Ultimate 3way
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 21, 2009, 08:45:03 PM
about that

anyone up for doing firefight stuff when it's out.  I'll finish the campaign solo first, but after that, I'll be up for a number of games.  XBL name is Linkzg64.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 21, 2009, 08:45:19 PM
Edge rules.

im keen to try firefight mode
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Jansen on September 21, 2009, 09:07:07 PM
i'm down for some firefight (GT: xeroxinlola). still pissed that it doesn't have matchmaking.

and yeah, this game shouldve been $40 at most. at least several reviews are touching on that

Amazon release date delivery seems to be a failure so far.
 

???

my order is due for delivery tomorrow which is the official release.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 21, 2009, 09:16:31 PM
same here, but it hasn't shipped yet.  someone on gaf said that they sometimes ship as late as 11 pm to get it here on time.  The eased my worries a bit.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Vizzys on September 21, 2009, 09:29:37 PM
i did the release date delivery thing from amazon too

Im told its overnight shipping
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 21, 2009, 09:45:08 PM
:omg i have my copy now
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 22, 2009, 12:56:06 AM
I called my local Gamestop in Issaquah and was like "CAN I GET IN ON THE MIDNIGHT LAUNCH ACTION" and they were like "YOU SURE CAN!" and I was like "THEN HOLD BACK ONE COPY OF PINBALL HALL OF FAME: THE WILLIAMS COLLECTION FOR XBOX 360!" and they were like "Oh that comes out tomorrow but we didn't get any copies" then I was like RAAAAAAAAAAGE and was ready to smash my phone but it's an iPhone and they are expensive so I went to play Tomb Raider Underworld instead.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 12:58:57 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 22, 2009, 12:59:05 AM
You should have been like "KNOCK ONE OF YOUR MAGAZINE RACKS OVER FOR ME. BUH-BYE."
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 01:03:28 AM
I called my local Gamestop in Issaquah and was like "CAN I GET IN ON THE MIDNIGHT LAUNCH ACTION" and they were like "YOU SURE CAN!" and I was like "THEN HOLD BACK ONE COPY OF PINBALL HALL OF FAME: THE WILLIAMS COLLECTION FOR XBOX 360!" and they were like "Oh that comes out tomorrow but we didn't get any copies" then I was like RAAAAAAAAAAGE and was ready to smash my phone but it's an iPhone and they are expensive so I went to play Tomb Raider Underworld instead.

Yo Sho, Gamefly sent me Pinball today. Bout to get my fuck on
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bebpo on September 22, 2009, 01:09:09 AM
Wait, the PS3 version of pinball comes out a week after the X360 one? wtffff
I pre-ordered the PS3 one at Newegg cause it was like $28 and it said it came out around the 30th.   :'(

*edit, oh great, it's just newegg and it's just the ps3 version @_@
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 22, 2009, 01:20:20 AM
I called my local Gamestop in Issaquah and was like "CAN I GET IN ON THE MIDNIGHT LAUNCH ACTION" and they were like "YOU SURE CAN!" and I was like "THEN HOLD BACK ONE COPY OF PINBALL HALL OF FAME: THE WILLIAMS COLLECTION FOR XBOX 360!" and they were like "Oh that comes out tomorrow but we didn't get any copies" then I was like RAAAAAAAAAAGE and was ready to smash my phone but it's an iPhone and they are expensive so I went to play Tomb Raider Underworld instead.

Yo Sho, Gamefly sent me Pinball today. Bout to get my fuck on

I want impressions like I want your manbabies
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 22, 2009, 01:20:48 AM
Sho Nuff :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Akala on September 22, 2009, 01:22:06 AM
I called my local Gamestop in Issaquah and was like "CAN I GET IN ON THE MIDNIGHT LAUNCH ACTION" and they were like "YOU SURE CAN!" and I was like "THEN HOLD BACK ONE COPY OF PINBALL HALL OF FAME: THE WILLIAMS COLLECTION FOR XBOX 360!" and they were like "Oh that comes out tomorrow but we didn't get any copies" then I was like RAAAAAAAAAAGE and was ready to smash my phone but it's an iPhone and they are expensive so I went to play Tomb Raider Underworld instead.

:rofl
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FatalT on September 22, 2009, 01:46:13 AM
I just picked it up and installed it to the HDD, playing it now. Woo! EXCITE BABY!
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 22, 2009, 01:48:17 AM
I just picked it up and installed it to the HDD, playing it now. Woo! EXCITE BABY!

Actually I think Halo has shittier performance if you install it
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 22, 2009, 02:01:56 AM
odst disc should at least be okay unless bungie says no.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Trent Dole on September 22, 2009, 02:12:48 AM
odst disc should at least be okay unless bungie says no.
It says it's 'optimized for hard drive' on the back of the box.  :-*
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 22, 2009, 02:16:45 AM
odst disc should at least be okay unless bungie says no.
It says it's 'optimized for hard drive' on the back of the box.  :-*

now I dont know who to believe
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 22, 2009, 02:28:10 AM
Whoa, that's cool
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 22, 2009, 02:34:22 AM
I called my local Gamestop in Issaquah and was like "CAN I GET IN ON THE MIDNIGHT LAUNCH ACTION" and they were like "YOU SURE CAN!" and I was like "THEN HOLD BACK ONE COPY OF PINBALL HALL OF FAME: THE WILLIAMS COLLECTION FOR XBOX 360!" and they were like "Oh that comes out tomorrow but we didn't get any copies" then I was like RAAAAAAAAAAGE and was ready to smash my phone but it's an iPhone and they are expensive so I went to play Tomb Raider Underworld instead.

:bow Sho Nuff :bow2

odst disc should at least be okay unless bungie says no.
It says it's 'optimized for hard drive' on the back of the box.  :-*

Good to know!
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 22, 2009, 06:44:23 AM
Bought the game for 30 euros (had 15euros worth of instore points)!

Euro :bow2

Points :bow2

Halo :bow2

Bungie :bow2
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 22, 2009, 07:09:27 AM
i like how the game has a picture on my channel even when offline.

ms should make it animated like ps3.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 22, 2009, 07:16:22 AM
mmmmmmm 3.5 GB install size for campaign disc.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 22, 2009, 08:07:14 AM
btw, amazon is listing it for $50 + $10 video games credit offer:

http://www.amazon.com/Halo-3-ODST-Xbox-360/dp/B001HWB68K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1253617567&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 22, 2009, 08:45:54 AM
this is pretty cool

why would you not have the visr on?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FatalT on September 22, 2009, 09:39:16 AM
this is pretty cool

why would you not have the visr on?

Try using it during daytime missions. I just beat it on Heroic. :D
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 22, 2009, 10:29:25 AM
is firefight on the ODST dvd? I heard the Halo 3 one couldn't be installed, but I don't think I'll be getting back into that multiplayer.  Care mostly about trying firefight.

and fuck, Amazon shipped this thing in the middle of the night.  Watch it arrive at midnight  :'( (my day is packed all day tomorrow)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 10:58:53 AM
Firefight is on the ODST DVD which can be installed.

this is pretty cool

why would you not have the visr on?

Try using it during daytime missions. I just beat it on Heroic. :D

How long did it take you? Alone or co op?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 12:07:29 PM
picked up my copy at tru 8)

got in a fender bender on the way back :(
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 22, 2009, 01:33:34 PM
amazon :piss2

delayed?  :maf
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 01:44:30 PM
Ugh, epic fail at TRU... no figure or code. What did they get like 10 only?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 01:45:16 PM
Game seems to rock.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 02:05:17 PM
Ugh, epic fail at TRU... no figure or code. What did they get like 10 only?

i got the last one 8)

she said they had 18
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 02:06:31 PM
I'm starting on Legendary. Why does everyone only play Heroic?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 22, 2009, 02:07:52 PM
Can you play as Master Chief in Firefight? That mode sounds up me and MrSingh's alley, but I don't want to play as some doof who ain't got the MJOLNIR POWER ARMOR
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 02:09:51 PM
nope
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 02:11:01 PM
Can you play as Master Chief in Firefight? That mode sounds up me and MrSingh's alley, but I don't want to play as some doof who ain't got the MJOLNIR POWER ARMOR

No loser. Go cosplay somewhere else
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 02:33:26 PM
3 player Firefight is fucking awesome
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 22, 2009, 02:38:48 PM
Can you play as Master Chief in Firefight? That mode sounds up me and MrSingh's alley, but I don't want to play as some doof who ain't got the MJOLNIR POWER ARMOR

No loser. Go cosplay somewhere else

Dont u mock me son, I have a covenant energy sword that I made out of the cardboard my IKEA sofa came in. It's very sharp, it's covered in aluminum foil (mom helped me)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 02:46:33 PM
demi is just mad cause i am stylin on him with my free swag and giftcard
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 02:49:42 PM
eh? i got a giftcard too. i was gonna sell the figure off :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 02:50:53 PM
i want to do that too, where were you gonna sell yours?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 03:04:20 PM
eBay

Apparently the figure is fragile and breaks upon touch :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: tehjaybo on September 22, 2009, 04:23:33 PM
I picked up a copy last night at the midnight (after two of my GameStop co-workers lent me 20 bucks each because they wanted to play Firefight with me that bad).  I played a 45 minute firefight and played a little bit of the single player campaign.  I really enjoyed it a lot.  I can't wait to play some more, which I would be doing tonight if I wasn't stuck here at work, 

:piss work :piss2
:bow :bow ODST :bow2 :bow2
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 22, 2009, 05:40:00 PM
I will probably wind up buying this secondhand because I want to play it with MrSingh. Dropping 60 bones on an expansion pack is major uncool and I don't think I can support that

Microsoft I strike at thee from my mom's basement
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 05:45:36 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 05:45:46 PM
-campaign rocks
-firefight rocks
-best map pack yet, 3 new playlists are the best yet

Lovin it
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 05:50:37 PM
Apparently the figure is fragile and breaks upon touch :lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17702303&postcount=5830

this guy deserves it because hes a douche :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bebpo on September 22, 2009, 05:51:22 PM
Was wondering where my RELEASE-DATE DELIVERY OSTD was

Quote
Status: SHIPMENT DELAYED
September 22, 2009     04:12:00 PM     ANAHEIM CA US     Arrival Scan
September 22, 2009    04:11:00 PM    LOUISVILLE KY US    Departure Scan
September 22, 2009    01:43:00 PM    LOUISVILLE KY US    Arrival Scan
September 22, 2009    09:03:00 AM    LOUISVILLE KY US    Arrival Scan
September 22, 2009    06:31:00 AM    TULSA OK US    Departure Scan
September 22, 2009    06:00:00 AM    TULSA OK US    Delay in delivery due to external factors
September 21, 2009    08:28:00 PM    TULSA OK US    Arrival Scan
September 21, 2009    08:02:00 PM    TULSA OK US    Departure Scan
September 21, 2009    04:43:00 PM    TULSA OK US    Shipment received by carrier
September 21, 2009    09:52:47 AM    Coffeyville KS US    Shipment has left seller facility and is in transit

I get screwed by UPS with "delivery by 'x' date" packages arriving after that date soooo much.  I really hate UPS and think they are the worst transportation service compared to FedEx or USPS.  I wish Amazon didn't use them for 1-2 day shipping.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 22, 2009, 05:53:17 PM
yeah, same with me.  :piss Tulsa, Oklahoma. :piss2
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 05:54:32 PM
This game is brutal on Legendary. Mmm, difficulty
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 06:10:46 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/mishimakazama/media1.jpg)

smh
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 22, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
My brother bought it today, and since his Xbox is hooked up to my television, I guess I'll play it later today.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 06:35:38 PM
I guess

Wouldn't want to take time out of your day Willco
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 06:53:11 PM
http://opa-ages.com/forums/topic/35767-unbiased-halo-odst-impressions/

 :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 22, 2009, 06:57:09 PM
I guess

Wouldn't want to take time out of your day Willco

I'm usually pretty busy. Although, I might push back a screening of this footage to play some Halo.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 06:57:54 PM
Ok Willco.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 22, 2009, 07:01:18 PM
Can someone explain to me why firefight is a big deal?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 07:02:51 PM
because its fun?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 07:06:32 PM
Can someone explain to me why firefight is a big deal?

It's not
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 07:13:01 PM
i forgot to mention that i installed the mythic disc when i got the game and played a couple matches and it worked flawlessly
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 07:49:07 PM
I've played campaign for at least 2 hours, and judging by achievements I'm only about a third of the way through. Seems long enough to me.

Legendary 3 player co op
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 22, 2009, 08:14:30 PM
i dont mind the short story. firefight is where it's at
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 22, 2009, 08:15:44 PM
Not a big fan so far.

Game begs for a cover system and better guns. Needs more Gears of War. And even with the visor, walking around inside sucks.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 22, 2009, 08:17:30 PM
man, xbox live is kinda unstable for me.

fucking halofags.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 22, 2009, 08:25:19 PM
i forgot to mention that i installed the mythic disc when i got the game and played a couple matches and it worked flawlessly

First thing I tried, too.  Really glad that you can do Halo 3 MP off the HD now.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Brehvolution on September 22, 2009, 08:32:30 PM
I took a friend to TRU to get his copy on our lunch break. This dorky cashier gets on the microphone:

"Can I get an associate up front for a halo figurine!"

I lost it and I could tell my friend was a little embarrassed too.

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 22, 2009, 08:37:44 PM
:lol

worse than when the scary cashier makes a sly comment when you buy condoms.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 22, 2009, 09:38:15 PM
Halo 3 Mythic has more game types compared to the regular Halo 3 MP...did they update the original game to match this?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 22, 2009, 09:43:28 PM
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I just don't understand whats different about this Halo.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FatalT on September 22, 2009, 09:44:14 PM
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I just don't understand whats different about this Halo.

Nothing. Don't buy it.

Evilbore irc ODST night starts tonight!
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 09:45:24 PM
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I just don't understand whats different about this Halo.

So read up on it?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 22, 2009, 09:45:52 PM
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I just don't understand whats different about this Halo.

What's different is that it's not very good.

Back to an earlier question, Firefight is like Gears of War 2's Horde mode. You face off against wave after wave of Covenant enemies.

But seeing how the campaign is sort of bleh, I'm not sure I care as much about Firefight as I did before I got the game. I think I'd rather just play Horde at this point.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 22, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
Back to an earlier question, Firefight is like Gears of War 2's Horde mode. You face off against wave after wave of Covenant enemies.


Oh thats cool then. I misread and though you were shooting "waves" of other players.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 22, 2009, 10:30:53 PM
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I just don't understand whats different about this Halo.

Nothing. Don't buy it.

Evilbore irc ODST night starts tonight!

Wait, we have an irc channel?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 10:33:57 PM
Is the Tayari Plaza achievement glitched? No one in my crew has it even though we are 3 missions past that, but my other friend who wasn't with us has the achievement even though he hasn't gone as far. So I guess it's not an issue of returning there as you progress.


You know what, I think that was the only mission where we quit at some point and reloaded from a midlevel checkpoint. So make sure you do your levels in a straight shot if you want the cheevs.

I'm also hearing that you can't do the audio logs in co op because when you quit out they all reset. Logs you find on your own are saved permanently though.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
I got it just fine
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FatalT on September 22, 2009, 10:45:12 PM
Wait, we have an irc channel?

Yessir!
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 22, 2009, 10:45:59 PM
#evilbore > evilbore
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 22, 2009, 11:02:26 PM
#evilbore > evilbore


straight idlin'  and some angry dude named mac   8)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 22, 2009, 11:03:13 PM
Yeah I got that achievement too. No problems, but I was doing it solo.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 11:04:16 PM
See edit, you must have to do it in one sitting.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 11:22:56 PM
I cant even find any audio logs. Are they all in the hub world? What do they look like? I just finished the safari level, complete with dead zebra.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 11:25:00 PM
I think 29 are in the hub world and there is one that's in a separate mission, which is what makes it impossible to do in co op.

Use your visor, they are things that are outlined in yellow.


There's this:
http://www.msxbox-world.com/features/Halo-3-ODST/index.php

I'm just gonna do it all in a separate playthrough. One of my friends already fucked up the Good Samaritan achievement.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 22, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
Yeah I didn't see any either and I looked around for them quite a bit.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 22, 2009, 11:25:25 PM
So far this is great.  Finished the second flashback mission before having to stop to get work done.  Haven't tried firefight yet.

Open world/hub stuff is really great, and so far, has the best visuals and music.  Playing as an a weaker ODST guy is really noticeable in a good way; I'm playing on heroic and it reminds me of Halo 1.  I do wish they balanced it out a bit more by making you faster or giving a run/sprint/haul-ass button, but it's no big deal.  The new weapons kinda suck, though.  Pistol isn't anywhere near the beastliness of the Halo 1 pistol, and it's just one of the crud pistols from 2/3 with shitty scope.  The SMG is also kinda crap and I thought it would be better at long range since it has a scope.  And someone on GAF said the POV changed, and I haven't played Halo 3 in over a year to tell, but the controls and all feel a lot better.

Just about the visuals and music, it seems all over the place.  Human characters still look bad and makes the already dull dialogue even worse.  The hub sections look pretty damn good; the lighting and general atmosphere is perfect.  Then there is that second flashback mission that looks like butt; I don't remember Halo 3 ever looking that bad.  Same goes for music.  The hub section has really nice music that reminds me of Blade Runner and Mass Effect, but then that second flashback had some terrible music throughout.  The first flashback wasn't too bad.

and I only heard two audio logs so far, kinda dull stuff, but I just played Arkham Asylum and you can't top jokes about severing a baby's limbs.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 11:29:01 PM
I dont know what the Good Samaritan achievement is. It probably has to do with those floating pinecombs. I killed one and I got the Naughty Naughty meter to pop up.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 22, 2009, 11:36:07 PM
You have to go through the whole campaign without killing any of those things. Kill 1 and you have to start over completely. So you might as well try and kill 10 now.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 22, 2009, 11:52:54 PM
Thats not so bad. Game can be finished in a few hours anyway on Easy / Normal
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 23, 2009, 12:13:11 AM
Bungie's FAQ on installing the Halo 3 Mythic disc:

Quote
Q. So, if I’ve got room on my hard drive, I should install this sucker for faster loading?

A. Nope. Halo 3: Mythic is for all intents and purposes, Halo 3. When we built Halo 3, NXE installations were the stuff of the future. As a result, installing Halo 3: Mythic will result in slower load times for you and all your friends (and people you care about will be disappointed in you).

The thing is, since installing I have not noticed slower load times, and no one I played with said anything either.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 23, 2009, 12:14:17 AM
Quote
[PS3] NINJA GAIDEN Σ2 9998
[360] HALO 3:ODST 8889


Famitsu dropping the hard truth bombs
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 23, 2009, 12:29:25 AM
I'm sure the movable tits had nothing to do with it
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 23, 2009, 12:30:56 AM
Or the fact that Japan generally doesn't take well to FPS games.  8889 is really impressive from PayolaFamitsu.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 23, 2009, 01:21:24 AM
Or the fact that Japan generally doesn't take well to FPS games.  8889 is really impressive from PayolaFamitsu.


8889 would be a record.

If it was out of 10.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 23, 2009, 01:23:40 AM
I'm getting bored of this game. I don't think Halo is a very fun game as 1 player. I've always played each game in co-op. Maybe I'm just not into it tonight.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 23, 2009, 01:30:19 AM
I never play co-op, but I can see how this game might be more fun that way. This is basically a chore so far (through three missions, starting a fourth).

And the review was right, Firefight is no fun by yourself. Oh well, regular multiplayer will have to suffice.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 23, 2009, 01:34:49 AM
Those fucking pinecone enemies take a ton of bullets to kill too. I had to waste all my plasma grenades, load a ton of shotgun, and a bunch of other shit before they finally exploded.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: OptimoPeach on September 23, 2009, 01:46:34 AM
What's the ratio of outside/inside stages? Inside the city counts as inside. I'm more curious about this than anything.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 23, 2009, 01:50:20 AM
The two flashback levels i played were really short. One was inside the city, the other was outside in a safari (since it takes place in Africa I guess). The hub world is pretty big, which makes it crappy to have to backtrack back and forth
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 23, 2009, 01:56:10 AM
Yes, you can easily spend more time backtracking across the hub world than you spend in a level.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 23, 2009, 02:16:22 AM
I'm getting bored of this game. I don't think Halo is a very fun game as 1 player. I've always played each game in co-op. Maybe I'm just not into it tonight.

I'm having this problem, as well.

It takes a ridiculous amount of bullets, grenades and what have you to take down aliens. It's just not terribly fun.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 23, 2009, 02:18:09 AM
I just wrote the same thing elsewhere demi. single player halo is deadly boring.

It takes a ridiculous amount of bullets, grenades and what have you to take down aliens. It's just not terribly fun.

For this very reason I wanted to stop playing when you get into the open area with those stupid things you have to shoot in the back. There's no tactics you can employ, they see you and follow you round. It's fucking stupid and not fun.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 23, 2009, 02:20:03 AM
Yeah, I'm not playing co-op. Most of my friends have already hit the sack by now.

I'll see if Firefight is any fun tomorrow.

Right now, this feels okay. My expectations were pretty low, so it's not like the game had to try very hard, but it's pretty much met my minimum expectations - and that's about it.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FatalT on September 23, 2009, 02:20:17 AM
Viz, drew, and I almost beat the game on Legendary (we've stopped at the very last 5 minutes of the game (drew didn't start playing until we were about 3/4 done)). It was pretty easy. Unfortunately ODST has the same problems Halo 3 did with not getting credit for finishing a level if a connection problem happens. It looks like 2 or 3 of the levels we played didn't get marked down as being finished because of that garbage. Ugh.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 23, 2009, 02:25:23 AM
Are they bullet sponges on Normal / Heroic? I was playing Legendary
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 23, 2009, 02:29:07 AM
I'm on normal. The first non grunt dudes take at least a full clip of the gun to put down from any distance. Grunts go down to a pistol headshot though.

Actually now I think about I couldn't headshot anything other than a grunt until I got the covenent sniper rifle, and even then I could only sniper the guys who I got the same gun off.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 23, 2009, 04:22:34 AM
I just wrote the same thing elsewhere demi. single player halo is deadly boring.

It takes a ridiculous amount of bullets, grenades and what have you to take down aliens. It's just not terribly fun.

For this very reason I wanted to stop playing when you get into the open area with those stupid things you have to shoot in the back. There's no tactics you can employ, they see you and follow you round. It's fucking stupid and not fun.
Lure them in for  lunge, sidestep, they expose back, you kill it.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 23, 2009, 07:45:31 AM
You cant lure them in because they shoot that green shit at you. fucking useless
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 23, 2009, 08:19:19 AM
found some audio logs finally
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 23, 2009, 09:25:15 AM
I'm playing heroic and enemies still can take a lot.  When I first encountered an enemy, I held back, zoomed in with the pistol and went for a headshot.  Thinking it was like the Halo 1 pistol, I thought it would go down in a few shots.  I kept shooting his face for a good while before he finally died.  I was freaking out because I expected my super stealth weapons to at least be powerful in those situations.  It's less off a problem with better guns.  Needler and carbine make quick work of any enemies in the hub world.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 23, 2009, 10:49:35 AM
You cant lure them in because they shoot that green shit at you. fucking useless
Evade that, close in on them and they will try to smack you, sidestep/evade and they'll expose their backs.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 23, 2009, 11:10:04 AM
I've done everything in co op so far and it's all above my not-low expectations. I could see this being less interesting while alone though, definitely. Forget about Firefight.

Those fucking pinecone enemies take a ton of bullets to kill too. I had to waste all my plasma grenades, load a ton of shotgun, and a bunch of other shit before they finally exploded.

I think a charged plasma pistol takes care of them quickly.


In fact, that takes everything down quickly, willco.


And you can headshot any enemy except the Hunters. Those ones you have to hit in the orange spot on their back. Headshots can be done with pistol and carbine too, not just sniper rifles. Anything that doesn't spray can headshot dudes.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: SantaC on September 23, 2009, 12:14:49 PM
I'm getting bored of this game. I don't think Halo is a very fun game as 1 player. I've always played each game in co-op. Maybe I'm just not into it tonight.

I'm having this problem, as well.

It takes a ridiculous amount of bullets, grenades and what have you to take down aliens. It's just not terribly fun.

I think Halo is yesterdays news in terms of FPS. Halo Reach must try something new, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 23, 2009, 12:27:35 PM
Yesterday's news in overall gameplay? I don't really believe so (although, again, I'm not a fan of ODST's mechanics at all). But it has lost its luster from a narrative standpoint. Mankind survived, the Covenant missed the tail of their comet, yadda yadda yadda. There's nothing left to draw me into the universe. And I can't say I have much interest in Reach at this point. The Covenant evolved into such an uninteresting villain, I don't particularly care about going back and exploring the struggle further, and ODST is underscoring that point. 

My advice is to leave the Halo universe except for multiplayer and start something new and hopefully do a better job at completing the story next time.

Actually, my advice is to leave multiplayer alone except for adding a custom games search and filter so I can find game types and rules that I enjoy playing.  :punch
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 23, 2009, 08:24:48 PM
I liked the outdoor level in the warthog. Good old school halo. I only got 5/6 for the Wraith Killer achivement though, I hope I don't have to do the level again to get 6 :(
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 23, 2009, 08:28:31 PM
I've been stuck at a checkpoint with barely any health so many times now. I'm on Oni Alpha Site now. I'm not even worried about achievements, I just want to finish it on Legendary first. Then I will blaze through on Easy and get dem cheevs.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 23, 2009, 08:34:48 PM
Also since your friends cant die and they have infinite ammo, I just give them the beast weapons, like the Laser or Rocket Launcher. Then I stand back and let them take everyone out.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Jansen on September 23, 2009, 08:43:53 PM
the difficulty achievements don't stack?

game is fuck awesome btw
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 23, 2009, 08:44:53 PM
wut. yes they do, they always have
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Jansen on September 23, 2009, 08:46:06 PM
oh and amazon rocks! they refunded me $9 bucks. after discounts and credits towards another game i got this sucka for bout $30.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 23, 2009, 09:01:49 PM
If they have this at costco for $51 I will buy this today
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 23, 2009, 09:38:37 PM
me and fatalt are about to play legendary co op

anyone who wants to play and hear my disappointing voice message volta volta
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 24, 2009, 12:00:42 AM
terrible last level.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 24, 2009, 12:17:31 AM
Yea, the last level is the only shitty one.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 24, 2009, 12:35:24 AM
cortana shitty? :-\
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Vizzys on September 24, 2009, 12:37:23 AM
its not that bad
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 24, 2009, 12:37:37 AM
No. It's the same 'drive the truck through mobs of enemies' that we've seen in other Halo games, only with a really shit awesome backdrop. And then they cap it off at the end with a pretty cool firefight where you have to defend a building, sorta like the Fenix mansion in Gears 1. I enjoyed that part.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 24, 2009, 04:07:32 AM
Also since your friends cant die and they have infinite ammo, I just give them the beast weapons, like the Laser or Rocket Launcher. Then I stand back and let them take everyone out.
I've found that the Laser doesn't really work that well due to the charge time, it requires better aiming. Fuel Rod, Rocket Launcher and Brute Shot are the best weapons to give.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 24, 2009, 04:09:18 AM
Do you get lay waste to shit with flying machines at all? I'm on a laying waste to shit with flying machines kick, but there are precious few such games around.  :'(
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 04:13:23 AM
Yes there's a level involving Banshees, but it's near the end
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Tieno on September 24, 2009, 05:44:54 AM
Yeah, don't forget the banshee has a fuel rod cannon in campaign, with 'B' button.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 24, 2009, 10:52:41 AM
Real gangstas use Bumper Jumper
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 24, 2009, 07:35:59 AM
These levels are really short. Through 5 flashbacks, I've probably spent 1.5 hours in game. More time than that backtracking through the hub world. I think there are three more, right? Something like that.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 07:01:30 AM
I deleted my Halo install and now the load time is horrendous
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 24, 2009, 07:25:05 PM
Finished it.  It was pretty great and didn't really feel like an expansion pack (like some people claimed).  I thought there would be a lot more to the hub world, like it was supposed to be Far Cry 2-ish, but it was really just there to go from mission to mission.  The night levels looked really damn good considering the Halo 3 visual standard, but the day time ones were ugly.  Music in the hub world was great, kinda standard boring stuff for the other missions.  General story and all that was pretty dumb.

Gonna try out firefight later, but I heard it's only with people on your friends list again.

These levels are really short. Through 5 flashbacks, I've probably spent 1.5 hours in game. More time than that backtracking through the hub world. I think there are three more, right? Something like that.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
last one is long, like two put together
[close]
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 24, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
So...this seems like it's kinda not worth it.  the $20 gc deal is alright, but it even seems a little pricey with that.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 24, 2009, 08:28:25 PM
I dunno.  If you play the multiplayer, then it's worth it.  Single player felt close enough to the length of Halo 3 that I wouldn't say it was too short.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 24, 2009, 08:31:02 PM
people are saying the graphics are the same...is it that blurry sub-720p shit?   Just trying to decide if I make this or MW2 my next fps.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 08:32:04 PM
Then you arent doing much favors with MW2... they both are running the same engine.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on September 24, 2009, 08:33:50 PM
but Halo 3 had a really shitty look to it, while COD4 actually stayed pretty crisp.  the graphics are kind of a minor consideration though.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 08:53:04 PM
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN YOU GET VIRGIL

WHAT IS THAT BULLSHIT

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 24, 2009, 09:18:07 PM
I assume by now you have jumped down the data shaft.

I'm on this mission, too.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 09:20:03 PM
I got past it. It was the part where you just find the floating brain and you walk out and EVERYTHING GOES APESHIT

I made it into the door and jumped down to MORE FUCKING BUGS AHHHHHHHHHHH but I killed them now everything is quiet and I got a checkpoint
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 24, 2009, 09:38:21 PM
Well, at least the last two missions of the game didn't make me backtrack the daggum hub. On the last mission now.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 24, 2009, 09:44:26 PM
people are saying the graphics are the same...is it that blurry sub-720p shit?   Just trying to decide if I make this or MW2 my next fps.

if you have to either get this or mw2 get mw2
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
wow this last level does suck fat balls.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: MCD on September 24, 2009, 10:04:11 PM
SHIELD IS DOWN

WELL STOP MOVING THEN YOU BITCH
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 10:11:08 PM
"what would make this game go out with a bang?"

"make you drive a warthog and have a distinguished mentally-challenged AI shoot?"

"better"

"make you drive a warthog and have a distinguished mentally-challenged AI shoot and have a distinguished mentally-challenged AI escort AND AND have them drive the same street followed by several hundred ghosts, banshees, wraiths, and everything else?"

"i think that's a wrap."
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 24, 2009, 10:16:15 PM
And fin.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 10:23:45 PM
Wow, I wonder if it's just me that the game got much easier when I got the Scorpion

Oh I know why

because I know HOW TO FUCKING AIM AND SHOOT

And as luck would have it there's a Rocket Launcher at the building. Here you go, invincible ally, you take it
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 24, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
lol dumi that part was easy

maybe you should play co op
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 24, 2009, 10:40:56 PM
I could see the overall experience being reduced if you played it alone. I loved it though.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 10:41:45 PM
Are you supposed to destroy the two wraiths at the end? There are no enemies in sight and the game isnt progressing forward.

lol dumi that part was easy

maybe you should play co op

Er, I just played the entire game by myself on Legendary. Why would I play co-op?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 24, 2009, 10:43:03 PM
yeah i had a lot of fun with fagatT and veyuz, its much more frustrating to have to go back to a checkpoint over and over again in choke points when you can just gloss over them in co op, the only minus was fighting over hammers and tyler taking the elevator before me and then crushing me with it
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 10:50:51 PM
I just beat the game, though :lol

I kinda freaked since the popups didnt come up, but I got the achievements anyway. Now I can go back on Easy and clean up
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 24, 2009, 10:51:42 PM
Er, I just played the entire game by myself on Legendary. Why would I play co-op?

[20:43]   <FatalT>   solo and co-op have different completions
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 10:53:02 PM
You don't get anything for beating it on co-op, though.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 24, 2009, 10:53:26 PM
I just beat the game, though :lol

I kinda freaked since the popups didnt come up, but I got the achievements anyway. Now I can go back on Easy and clean up

For me, the achievements notice popped up after the credits, after the epilogue, and after I had been sitting back on the main menu for 2 minutes. Or rather after my system had been sitting there and I was surfing the internets on my laptop.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 10:55:58 PM
Aw man there was a vid after the credits? I just skipped them. What happens?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 24, 2009, 11:00:17 PM
It's on youtube.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Johnson interviews the floating scrote
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Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 24, 2009, 11:02:33 PM
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1 month after drop. ONI facility (can't remember the actual name). Captain is walking in with somebody whose head is hidden... turns out to be Sgt. Johnson. He throws a data chip or something at the engineer and says something like "the covenant is digging for something and you're going to tell me what it is."

Which totally throws off my sense of the timing of events in the games. I thought Halo 2 and Halo 3 were already done a month after the drop which means Johnson would have already been dead.
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Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 24, 2009, 11:02:40 PM
you shouldnt have told him it was on youtube

for the first time he had a reason to play a game for something other than achievements
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 24, 2009, 11:02:49 PM
Oh ok, that was pretty dumb.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 24, 2009, 11:07:48 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
1 month after drop. ONI facility (can't remember the actual name). Captain is walking in with somebody whose head is hidden... turns out to be Sgt. Johnson. He throws a data chip or something at the engineer and says something like "the covenant is digging for something and you're going to tell me what it is."

Which totally throws off my sense of the timing of events in the games. I thought Halo 2 and Halo 3 were already done a month after the drop which means Johnson would have already been dead.
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I was thinking exactly the same thing, what the fuck is the timeline for these games?

And he threw a lighter.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 24, 2009, 11:48:49 PM
In the "news to me" category, I saw on Xbox.com for ODST that the "Prepare to Drop" ODST 360 theme is free for gold members.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FatalT on September 25, 2009, 01:10:56 AM
Whoopee, just beat it on Legendary by myself.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 25, 2009, 01:37:13 AM
[youtube=560,345]xh_9QhRzJEs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 25, 2009, 02:05:51 AM
:bow firefight :bow2

added a bunch of people to my friends list so I can actually play it and played a bunch.  On heroic, we were one away from, I assume, the end.  It was one guy up against a crew of six brutes and chiefs.  The best was when I destroyed a Hunter with a hammer.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 25, 2009, 02:06:38 AM
I just need to get the audio logs and then I'll do some firefight. Also would like to do a 4 player run for the Deja Vu achievement (Legendary Highway)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 25, 2009, 02:07:12 AM
I just need to get the audio logs and then I'll do some firefight. Also would like to do a 4 player run for the Deja Vu achievement (Legendary Highway)

shotgun
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 25, 2009, 06:43:32 AM
I have every SP achievement except Good Samaritan (will probably just replay the game in co-op Legendary). So if anyone wants to do some Firefight for the Endure & 200k achievements, sign up here. This weekend is fine.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 25, 2009, 09:52:36 AM
That Heroic Firefight achievement is going to be rough.

It's shit easy to get the 200k cheevs on Normal though, my group has a few of them already.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: twerd on September 25, 2009, 12:06:15 PM
played this. i enjoyed it, but i'm disappointed that it's not more markedly different from the central franchise.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 25, 2009, 12:14:45 PM
Just got all the audio logs (listened to them as i went). Took a bit over two hours.

I think this game is pretty damn different from typical Halo games. It gives you the old school Halo gameplay in the flashback missions, and the city isn't like anything else. The limitations of the ODST force you to play the game differently than you have in the past. One or two Brutes can fuck you up quickly, a single Brute Shot round can force you into cover, and you really can't depend on your melee anymore.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 25, 2009, 12:55:15 PM
I still used melee a lot.  And in my experience, this game on heroic is a lot easier than Halo 3 on normal.  But I tried Legendary in firefight and that was a huge jump from Heroic difficulty.

Also, I don't get why they took out the Battlerifle.  It would have been one of the best weapons in the hub area where most of the combat is mid to long range.  Instead they give you a kinda shitty silenced smg and alright pistol.  I used the carbine most of the time.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 25, 2009, 01:05:41 PM
Just got all the audio logs (listened to them as i went). Took a bit over two hours.

I think this game is pretty damn different from typical Halo games. It gives you the old school Halo gameplay in the flashback missions, and the city isn't like anything else. The limitations of the ODST force you to play the game differently than you have in the past. One or two Brutes can fuck you up quickly, a single Brute Shot round can force you into cover, and you really can't depend on your melee anymore.

Yeah, it's empty.

The only real noticeable difference is that it takes more bullets to bring enemies down and you can sustain damage. In essence, they just made it more difficult.

There are encounters built around this concept, where you have to use things to your tactical advantage and that is a departure from previous Halo titles. But it's also incredibly repetitive.

Also, near the end, they throw that away and give you shields? ... Really?

Firefight is pretty fun, though. I can't get behind the solo campaign, though.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 25, 2009, 10:17:10 PM
The vehicle levels are awesome, but it seems too easy to lose health if you get pounded quickly.

Definitely agree with the hub level, it's interesting and new, but it's really barren and everything besides a grunt needs about 8 clips to die.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 25, 2009, 10:20:19 PM
I'm not a big fan of vehicle levels. It's been one of my biggest gripes with Halo since Halo 2. I thought the limited usage of vehicles in Halo 1 was perfect. Since then, though, there have been long sections of the games that require them, and ODST follows that formula completely. Of the 8 missions, how many of them did you spend the majority of time in a vehicle? 4?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 25, 2009, 10:39:08 PM
Looking for 2 other people for Firefight
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 25, 2009, 10:39:53 PM
I like them considering how much ammo it takes to bring down a lot of the enemies. Makes things a lot quicker.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 25, 2009, 10:43:49 PM
I like sections where vehicles are present, just not required; most of Halo 1 was like that.  That said, the best moment of Halo 3 was taking down two scarabs in the VTOL.  But I was actually surprised by how much you were in vehicles in ODST.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Warthog sequence early on was fine, but considering these guys were not supposed to be lower soldiers, I didn't expect you to be flying around in a Banshee for most of a mission.  Of course, there is that long stretch at the end too.

The mongoose in the hub world was great, though.  I was legitimately happy when I unlocked it and wanted to take care of it.  I was also pissed off when a Brute piece of shit destroyed it.  Again, it felt like mini-Far Cry 2.  It felt like it was your vehicle and not just a random disposable ride.
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and I booted up the Halo 3 multiplayer disk.  Going back o that game, it really does seem like the POV has been pulled back or something.  I thought controls in ODST were really good but Halo 3 feels twitchy again to me and a bit too close.  Still a lot of fun, I just wish ODST had it's own multiplayer besides firefight.  I wish firefight had matchmaking too.  I want to play but no one on my friends list is playing or in an open game.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Vizzys on September 26, 2009, 12:41:05 AM
anyone up for some firefight right now
friend me, my gt is lovas
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 26, 2009, 12:41:41 AM
Me and Luci from OA need 2 more. We are going for Endure, and Deja Vu and FireFight.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 26, 2009, 04:37:07 AM
Firefight is the shit. Games take way too long though. Sign up if you want to do another game tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 27, 2009, 12:30:04 AM
Looking for 2 more for FireFight
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 27, 2009, 12:35:14 AM
So do you not play as ODSTs in the straight multiplayer mode?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on September 27, 2009, 12:36:26 AM
You play as ODSTs during Firefight. Standard multiplayer is all Spartan.

Also, you can't just switch back and forth between modes, either, because standard MP is on a different disk.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Should have gone with Blu-ray. :smug
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Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on September 27, 2009, 12:45:24 AM
It's lulz because it's true!
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: cool breeze on September 27, 2009, 01:13:05 AM
I wish there was ODST multiplayer.  Pulled back camera, better feeling controls and Halo 1 style health.  And I wish Firefight had matchmaking.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 27, 2009, 02:45:43 AM
Firefight is more fun than Horde.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 27, 2009, 03:51:55 AM
Firefight is awesome. Nobody replies to my posts though. I've been getting 200k with someone else on Normal difficulty. I believe we could do the Heroic achievement easily.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 27, 2009, 10:51:45 AM
I feel like Heroic is a huge jump in difficulty from Normal. My group has been getting 300k on Normal with 10+ lives left on a bunch of different maps, but I don't think we've even made it to Set 3 on Heroic. Our fourth player is usually pretty weak though.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: bork on September 27, 2009, 03:26:10 PM
What a difference co-op makes!  Went from getting my ass handed to me on the first level (Heroic difficulty) to the fifth level, with ease, playing with a friend yesterday.  The levels all seem pretty short, too. 
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 27, 2009, 04:36:13 PM
Actually I take it back. We have a decent fourth player and now we're at 174k on heroic with 7 lives left. Halfway through set 2. That achievement shouldn't be too bad. We were playing like shit the first few rounds too cuz the fourth guy just got the game today. edit: 195k


edit: set 3, 11 lives, 282k :) Could this be our cheevo :o

set 4, 12 lives, 453k :o :o

Tilt famine mythic
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 27, 2009, 04:37:30 PM
NEED TWO MORE FOR FIREFIGHT TONIGHT LTES DO THIS
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 27, 2009, 05:55:11 PM
We did it. Entered set 5 with 6 lives and 670049 points. We screwed up both the first and the last bonus rounds.

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=28062613&player=Viscen
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on September 28, 2009, 09:53:07 PM
Did Endure just now. OMG. One of the better feeling achievements. Made it to last wave with zero lives and only three people (one idling in the corner), but we did it. Now I just need 4 more 200k and this game is done.

http://www.bungie.net/stats/odstg.aspx?gameid=31448270&player=demifish
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 28, 2009, 11:03:50 PM
EVILBORE IRC FIREFIGHT NIGHT is down 2 players

this is an open invitation to join and let me whisper sweet nothings in your ear (piece)

rsvp below pls thx
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 29, 2009, 01:14:35 AM
All I need is Deja Vu. We almost had it tonight and then the match lagged out even though no one was separated from the party. So I guess I'll have to try that tomorrow.

I have everything in Halo 3 besides two FFA ones - Overkill and Double Kill with 1 Spartan Laser blast. I doubt I will ever get those.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: chronovore on September 29, 2009, 06:58:34 AM
I took a friend to TRU to get his copy on our lunch break. This dorky cashier gets on the microphone:

"Can I get an associate up front for a halo figurine!"

I lost it and I could tell my friend was a little embarrassed too.

 :lol :lol :lol

Could have been worse; they could have said "HALO DOLL"...
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 29, 2009, 11:29:59 PM
I had the single handedly most epic Halo 3 Team Slayer match of all-time.

It was 5-on-5, and two of my teammates quit before the game even really started. The other two quit like a minute or two in. So it was me against five guys.

And I beat them. :lol

I wish I could've recorded the profanities they were yelling in the lobby afterwards. :lol
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 29, 2009, 11:33:36 PM
Get the game off Bungie.net, show the buttfuckery to all
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 29, 2009, 11:43:38 PM
How long does it take to update stats, it's still showing that my last game was 7 PM?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: chronovore on September 30, 2009, 03:15:35 AM
Oh, jeez, I will actually boot Halo 3 to download and watch that.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 30, 2009, 11:32:13 AM
Matchmaking games usually go up within 2 or 3 minutes of the match. Firefight leaderboards only seem to update every few hours (but your individual match is available right away still). I don't know if the big boost in players is bogging things down though.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 30, 2009, 01:19:49 PM
Oh, jeez, I will actually boot Halo 3 to download and watch that.

they really should have implemented first person view for all the players in a match when watching in the theater

whats the fun in watching everything as a third person cam?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: tehjaybo on September 30, 2009, 01:44:31 PM
Firefight tonight, PM if interested.  Need dem cheevs.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on September 30, 2009, 02:21:42 PM
http://opa-ages.com/forums/topic/33792-the-official-halo-3-odst-thread/page__view__findpost__p__710567

demi is playing firefight with oaers instead of with evilbore bros

i believe two emoticons are appropriate here :wag :chicken
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: twerd on October 02, 2009, 01:17:07 AM
firefight :bow2

rest of game  :-\
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: pilonv1 on October 02, 2009, 01:23:52 AM
i would play firefight with demi but im in a different time zone
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: TEEEPO on October 02, 2009, 02:47:33 AM
this game is a drag :yuck
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 12:20:08 PM
Couldn't resist at $40 shipped. Resale market :rock
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on October 06, 2009, 12:35:47 PM
$40 is probably about right. If you already had the DLC, $25 would be about right.

Seriously, Microsoft should refund the spacebucks to the saps that bought the DLC and ODST. Ripoff total.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 12:38:40 PM
Seemed like a more reasonable price. Still iffy about it, given that I've never been much into Halo MP, but at worst I should be able to get some of it back.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 06, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
I don't see how this isn't worth $60. I paid $60 for Killzone and got to the end in less than 4 hours.


and wtf @ the map complaint. I bought an iPod two years ago and now it's smaller and has a camera! send me a new one apple!

I got 16 and 20 months of play out of the first two map packs for my $10. By the time the third map pack came around earlier this year, it was well known that you would get it for free with ODST if you could just wait. Some of my friends did wait, I chose not too, so I got 6 months of play out of those for my $10.

If you wait long enough, every product will give you more content/features for less money.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 01:18:09 PM
I don't see how this isn't worth $60. I paid $60 for Killzone and got to the end in less than 4 hours.

If I cleared the campaign in 4 hours and didn't like the MP, I'd probably feel pretty ripped off too. Two wrongs don't make a right, does it? I don't like Halo MP, never have, so for me $40 is a hell of a lot more reasonable than $60 for a campaign nugget.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 06, 2009, 01:19:53 PM
I didn't feel ripped off. It just wasn't my taste. And I did play multiplayer for 10 hours or so.

Killzone 2 objectively had less content at the same price point as ODST. Which style of gameplay you prefer is a separate issue.

In any case I should have quoted Bocsius. I don't get why a campaign longer than KZ2 or CoD and almost as long as Halo 3 is only worth $25 without the maps. CoD4 GOTY edition launched at $60 with no new content but 3 maps that were available for download anyway. And it's still $50 today.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
For the record, I'm baffled by the less than 4 hours to complete the KZ2 campaign. You must have been disturbingly good at it.

Whatever, though. The short campaigns are starting to get on my nerves, no matter the game. COD4 was at the very least perfectly paced, so hopefully this one is too.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 06, 2009, 01:26:42 PM
If I still had the game I would take a picture. It was 3:48 or something like that. That was with some time spent struggling with the last boss. I think I did it on the middle difficulty, not the hardest. But my 5.5 hour ODST runthrough was with three other players so that should balance out.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on October 06, 2009, 01:37:16 PM
COD4 was at the very least perfectly paced, so hopefully this one is too.

that is absolutely the last thing this game is
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on October 06, 2009, 01:38:39 PM
Just need one more firefight to have 1000, but I came home to find my sister had deebo'd my fucking game. I am pissed.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on October 06, 2009, 01:59:48 PM
The campaign is only as long as it is because you spend a significant amount of time backtracking over the hub world to get to the next mission. Actual in-level game time is close to 3 hours, and those levels are mediocre at best. With or without the maps, it's not worth $60. If you have the DLC already, it's worth nowhere near close to 60 bucks. And the thing is Bungie never wanted to sell it for $60, so there's no real point in defending the price. I can't compare it to other games in the genre, because I don't like other games in the genre. I like Halo, and this Halo is ho-hum.

Quote
If you wait long enough, every product will give you more content/features for less money.

I think the point was missed. This is less content for more money, and far less if you have the DLC already. I suppose if you never played Halo 3, it's probably spot on! Those 8 people are loving life right now.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on October 06, 2009, 03:00:06 PM
Just need one more firefight to have 1000, but I came home to find my sister had deebo'd my fucking game. I am pissed.

you have a sister?

themoreyouknow.jpg

ps what does deebo'd mean?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on October 06, 2009, 03:04:08 PM
that's my bike
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on October 06, 2009, 03:04:37 PM
wait

what
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: FatalT on October 06, 2009, 03:36:41 PM
wait

what

You never seen the movie Friday?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: drew on October 06, 2009, 03:39:15 PM
oh

OH
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: tehjaybo on October 06, 2009, 03:58:01 PM
I've never seen Friday and even I knew that.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
It's because I had a black friend once.  :shh
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Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 08, 2009, 08:53:00 PM
Just made it to the part where i have to face two hunters and shut it off. pretty average so far.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 08, 2009, 10:39:29 PM
The campaign is only as long as it is because you spend a significant amount of time backtracking over the hub world to get to the next mission. Actual in-level game time is close to 3 hours, and those levels are mediocre at best. With or without the maps, it's not worth $60. If you have the DLC already, it's worth nowhere near close to 60 bucks. And the thing is Bungie never wanted to sell it for $60, so there's no real point in defending the price. I can't compare it to other games in the genre, because I don't like other games in the genre. I like Halo, and this Halo is ho-hum.

Quote
If you wait long enough, every product will give you more content/features for less money.

I think the point was missed. This is less content for more money, and far less if you have the DLC already. I suppose if you never played Halo 3, it's probably spot on! Those 8 people are loving life right now.

Halo 3 - 6 hour campaign with 11 maps
ODST - what you call a 3 hour campaign with 33 maps, plus a beta

CoD4: GOTY edition - $60 for the exact same game with 3 maps that are already DLC. Now $50. no co op, no horde
KZ2: 4-5 hour campaign with like 8-9 maps. no co op, no horde

I did no exploration of the overworld, I just ran from checkpoint to checkpoint. That wasn't time consuming at all. Took a bit over 2 hours to go back and find all the audio logs.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on October 09, 2009, 01:59:38 AM
You're not really making any points here.

First of all, the COD4 vs. ODST comparison. Completely invalid. GOTY is a repackaging of the game selling to new users for the game. There is no reason for existing COD4 users to run out and buy it. Conversely, ODST is an expansion on Halo 3. The fact that it includes the maps from the original game plus the maps that are already free plus the additional DLC is of little consequence. The intent is to sell (most of) this crap to people that already own it!

You get a short, forgetful campaign, you get a new multiplayer mode (without matchmaking, which is a complaint for some and would be for me if I cared to play it but since it's an extension of the campaign, I'd rather not), and a bunch of maps that the majority of which you already own.

The value just isn't there unless, as stated before, you never bought Halo 3, in which case the value might actually be a steal. Once again, good job to those 8 unique people that bought ODST and skipped 3.

Anyway, the point is moot. Something like 2.5 million people have bought ODST according to USA Today, so the train's left the station and has made Microsoft a lot of coin.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 09, 2009, 02:00:52 AM
The lack of matchmaking in Firefight seems pretty daft.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on October 09, 2009, 02:06:49 AM
Have you received your copy yet?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 09, 2009, 02:13:27 AM
Have you received your copy yet?

No, should arrive tomorrow or Saturday. If it arrives the same day as Uncharted 2, then ODST will have to wait.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bebpo on October 09, 2009, 02:56:39 AM
WHY DOES THIS GAME NOT AUTOSAVE LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME IN THE UNIVERSE THESE DAYS.  IS THERE A WAY TO TURN ON AUTOSAVE?

I have to redo everything after the first stage because I forgot to save :(  When it said "CHECKPOINT" I just assumed it saved :\
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 09, 2009, 02:27:54 PM
Playing through the first flashback mission now. I like the tone of the hub world, but the whole ODST thing is a little bit difficult to digest. So you're weaker, I get that. But why do weapons do less damage? There don't seem to be any changes to the gameplay other than less combat abilities, weaker weapons and lower damage tolerance for yourself, so it seems pretty half-assed. Also, cutscenes have been major lulz so far. Why even bother with a high profile cast when the direction is what it is?

Other than that, it's fun enough. Playing on Heroic, and it's a good challenge so far.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Draft on October 09, 2009, 02:41:20 PM
What's funny is that you aren't even really that weak.

I'm not one to get hung up on game world integrity, but it does make me giggle when my human character is punching brutes to death and flipping warthogs.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 10, 2009, 12:08:54 AM
Yeah, I just noticed that in the last mission. It honestly feels like little more than a limited Halo 3 at this point. There's been a lot of talk about the change in character forcing you to switch up your strategies, but I haven't noticed that at all. You may be a bit more vulnerable and your weapons are less lethal, but I'm not noticing a huge difference.

On the upside, this last mission was a bit more fun than the last. The combination of bloom and music in the hub world reminds me of some Lifetime Movie Network drama, which I guess fits well with the quality of the cinematics.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: TEEEPO on October 10, 2009, 11:25:04 AM
WHY DOES THIS GAME NOT AUTOSAVE LIKE EVERY OTHER GAME IN THE UNIVERSE THESE DAYS.  IS THERE A WAY TO TURN ON AUTOSAVE?

I have to redo everything after the first stage because I forgot to save :(  When it said "CHECKPOINT" I just assumed it saved :\

it has happened to me 3 or so times already :(\

the last session i lost 1 1/2 hours of progress. so annoying.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 11, 2009, 12:14:47 AM
So, does anyone want to co-op up? I think I'm done trying to get into the game, but I have a feeling co-op would transform the game quite a bit.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 11, 2009, 12:21:07 AM
hmm, I've got a copy of Halo 2 here.  I think I'll play me some of that instead of renting this.   8)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 11, 2009, 01:17:09 AM
even tho this game is pretty by-the-numbers, it's still better than Halo 2. what a turd that was.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 11, 2009, 03:37:56 AM
Just beat the Oni mission. So far this has been point to point or basic siege stuff, mostly the latter. Any variation coming up? Also noticing some really dodgy Brute A.I., seems to switch off completely when they are at a set distance, and they don't even react to getting shot multiple times. A bit surprising to see that on this difficulty. Maybe it was like this in Halo 3 as well, I'll have to double check.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Draft on October 11, 2009, 09:21:47 AM
Firefight is the laggiest shit. I wish I could return this stupid game.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 11, 2009, 03:12:25 PM
Just did the NMPD mission and then the Oni Alpha mission, pretty fun. Liked how they are directly connected to each other.

edit: And I'm getting annoyed by having to walk to my next mission. Kinda wish I didn't have to.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 11, 2009, 04:05:21 PM
:bow Buying at $40, selling at $50 :bow2

So, what's up with the lack of BR, and the silencer on the SMG? It's not like it makes a tactical difference; once you shoot someone, they all seem to know your location.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on October 12, 2009, 12:51:43 AM
Does anyone want to do Halo 3 Annual?
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 12, 2009, 03:54:48 AM
The last few missions were pretty alright, but the Coastal Highway mission felt real padded. And for Reach, I seriously hope that Bungie can swallow its pride and outsource writing, character modeling and cutscene direction to some other studio. The writing and delivery, especially in the second half of the game, was straight out of Killzone 2, with a touch of Gears 2, sans the cussing.

Did anyone else find this easier than Halo 3, on Heroic? Whatever they and others have said about the grand differences of the ODST role seems like a bunch of crap.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on October 12, 2009, 01:53:43 PM
Reach should be out, like, now. What, it takes 10 guys a year to do ODST, but it takes the full company three years to make Reach? Bungie seems to waste a lot of time in making games. Other highly competent developers can get great games out every two years. Developers of shooters, even. Who knew? Tell me they're not doing everything from scratch again.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 13, 2009, 02:18:37 PM
Reach should be out, like, now. What, it takes 10 guys a year to do ODST, but it takes the full company three years to make Reach? Bungie seems to waste a lot of time in making games. Other highly competent developers can get great games out every two years. Developers of shooters, even. Who knew? Tell me they're not doing everything from scratch again.

It is supposed to be a new engine which is why it has taken 3 years.


Since November 2001 and the release of Halo CE, Reach will be the 5th Halo game in total they've done in the series so they haven't exactly been keeping Halo in Duke Nukem territory.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on October 13, 2009, 02:31:06 PM
Yes, and it has been three years between each of them. ODST doesn't count, as it's from a small subteam, which is the point. A small team took the Halo 3 engine and got something that loosely resembles a game out the door in a year (give or take) of development time. A larger team should be able to get something that more resembles a game out the door every other year. There's no need to start from scratch every time out.

If I'm Microsoft, I'm frustrated with their throughput. A bunch of profitable development houses take the time to get their engines running and then release game after successful game, maximizing game sales, revenue, and profit without having to redo everything. Bungie, on the other hand, starts from scratch each time out, and sometimes has to start over even after already starting over (I present to you the screwed up development of Halo 2).

Yes, they've made a lot of money doing it the way they do. Yet I can't help but think they would make a lot more money just doing it the way of Infinity Ward, Epic, Insomniac, and the list goes on.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 13, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
I would argue the purpose of a first dev is to not only create profitable games but push the tech of the console to be a flagship example of what is possible on said console. A first party big time dev has a different role than a third party who is going to crank out a game every year or 2 at the most. I don't think the position of the average person is that there have been too few Halo games.

I would argue that potentially where Bungie has fallen off a bit is in the sense that three years should be enough time to really push ahead on graphics which they haven't done. I would argue their game output both in quanity and quality has been fine and that their graphic output hasn't been up to snuff at least since Halo CE released.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bocsius on October 13, 2009, 02:51:23 PM
On the other hand, I think Halo 2 looks great. Halo 3 even better. And people playing the games couldn't give a crap about if it pushes technological bounds or comes out too often. Just look at the market! They're used to getting their Rock Band and Guitar Hero and Madden and Call of Duty every year, one from Infinity Ward coming every other. They got their Rainbow 6 and Ghost Recon and whatever other shooter franchise Ubi released. They're getting Uncharted and Resistance every other year. Bungie is big enough to be able to get a new game out every other year. It doesn't have to be Halo every single time, but it also shouldn't be a new engine every time, either.

And why they'd want to move away from a surefire hit is beyond me. Seriously, if I'm Microsoft and the people from Bungie came up to me and told me they're tired of doing Halo, I would have had them subjected to psychiatric evaluations. Are you insane? It's a cash cow. But OK, we'll give it to somebody else when you're done with it. Even Rare couldn't screw this up! (But we'll not test that theory...)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 13, 2009, 02:58:50 PM
I very much respect Bungie and the Halo series. I'm one of those people who thinks that Halo was sort of instrumental in the fps taking off the way it did on consoles and a lot of the conventions that came to be.

I do think graphically though they took an approach with Halo 3 in retrospect that seems out of place in the current market. I think they concentrated on things like aspects of lighting and other secondary graphic features that sort of makes their game fit into an odd space. I think most devs made the call this gen to either tone down the graphics and go for 60 fps or really punch up the graphics and settle for 30 but focus on the areas that most normal people really associate with "good graphics".

Halo 3 is an odd duck to me because it doesn't run at 60 and yet it doesn't look traditionally exceptional for a 30fps game. We'll see how they balanced things in Reach. 

As far as stepping away from Halo, I sort of applaud the move. They clearly have the clout and confidence that they can create something else big. I think that takes balls. And I'm always down with balls.

Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 15, 2009, 11:21:32 PM
Lemme know if anyone's interested in trading their copy of ODST for a shiny copy of BAT-MAN (360 of course)
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 20, 2009, 03:39:20 AM
level design varies from great to copy/paste from older games.

I can't name a single instance of great level design in ODST. Flashback levels feel like pickings from a pile of discarded content from previous games, and the city is basically one big library. The gameplay is obviously "solid" if a bit outdated (I can't be the only one grasping for a sprint button), but the much ballyhooed ODST deal is critically overstated; granted that I haven't played it on Legendary, but Heroic didn't feel much different from any other Halo game on that difficulty. If anything, it was actually easier, and the ODST deal felt half-assed all around.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on October 20, 2009, 10:11:56 AM
It's hard to criticize something as basic but functional as the combat of Halo, although I think there are some additions that need to be made in general, like sprint. My issue with it in this game has more to do with the role you're put in. Cross hairs still take up a good chunk of the screen and the magnetic aim takes care of the rest, and there is virtually no loss of precision based on movement so you can bunny hop your way to victory like in any other Halo. Given that you're supposedly a bit less of a super-soldier, I would have actually liked to see some proper adjustments to the gunplay itself, and not just by way of making bullets less effective (which really makes no fucking sense).

Some were worried that it would be too different from the previous games, but I feel that it suffers from the opposite problem. What you have here is basically a Halo game with unusually unimaginative and repetitive level and skirmish design, writing that puts up a serious fight against KZ2 in terms of raw crapness, and some half baked ODST limitations. Not what I expected when they announced the game.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: demi on October 20, 2009, 07:59:53 PM
Still lookin for 4 people for Gaylo 3 Annual
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 20, 2009, 08:40:57 PM
One of those digital foundry articles on ODST.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-odst-tech-analysis-article
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: TEEEPO on October 21, 2009, 12:40:52 AM
i'd like to play some coop.

mr teepo on live.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: tehjaybo on October 21, 2009, 01:49:11 PM
Still lookin for 4 people for Gaylo 3 Annual

Yes, please.  Also, I need Endure as my last CHEEV on ODST.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2009, 06:40:22 PM
Slacked off of school stuff and finished the campaign today.

I have to say I respect Bungie and their work with the Halo series soooo much.  ODST's campaign was very, very good.  It took all the best parts of Halo and strung them together in an episodic style that surprisingly worked really well.  The story was ok, made sense, wasn't offensive or juvenile, and unlike most games these days, it held the narrative and brought it together for a very satisfying finale in the last two levels.  They introduced the cute engineer and through their awesome cutscene animation they made you care about him.  You really felt GOOD when you were fighting at the end and he was protecting you and you worked together to take out the enemies.  The epilogue even brought a tear to my eye because it was really so perfect. 

Visually, despite the old engine I thought the lighting and art design was excellent.  I felt it was a shame almost half the game was in the dark because with the visor on it totally washes out the lighting and you don't get to appreciate it.  Like during Data Hive I tried to do most of the mission with the visor off because the blue tints and the flamethrower lighting up the halls was really nice looking.

And the soundtrack, oh my the soundtrack.  Soundtrack of the year for sure.  Maybe of the generation so far.  A++++++ score.

Would be a perfect 10/10 campaign IMO if it wasn't for the hub segments that are neat but get old mainly because even though you're just walking from one area to another, for some reason each level is EXACTLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE CITY.  I heard you get a vehicle if you get enough audio logs but I didn't find many log machines!  I wasn't scouting for them but I did look around each area I fought through on the way to the next level and grabbed any I saw.  Anyhow I never got the vehicle so I walked it each time and it was pretty fillerish despite the great art and music.

The combat in Halo is soooooo good. Same with the vehicles.  I wouldn't mind an entire air combat game made from the banshee flight engine.

Still I'd say the campaign was the best FPS campaign story/gameplay-wise I've played since HL2 Ep2.  Just a fantastic game full of character and those little details that only Kojima and Miyamoto games have.  I'd put it up there with Demon Souls and Machinarium as a strong GoTY contender for 09 so far.  Don't think I'll ever try firefight since none of my friends play it (would have tried it with matchmaking!), but I'll play the Halo 3 MP someday.  I liked the H3 beta but I didn't play the real post-beta MP much.  Now with forge and the DLC maps there should be a lot of new fun things to check out.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 12, 2009, 09:41:01 PM
Nailed it
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 12, 2010, 06:54:29 PM
Took a break from Mass Effect 2 to play this. I'll probably go back and finish Mass Effect 2.

This is easily the worst Halo ever. The biggest offender is the red screen. I don't need that shit in Halo. If you're playing on Heroic or above, one or two hits from a Carbine will put you in the red. I'm playing the Buck stage right now, and every time the screen goes red, he pants like crazy and sounds like he's busting a nut. Given how little damage it takes to trigger this, you could potentially play about half the game with a guy sounding like he's orgasming in your tv screen. Not cool, Bungie. Not cool at all.

I'm really glad I only paid $30 for this and the Reach beta is starting soon.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: ManaByte on March 12, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
You're not playing as Master Chief. Don't play like you are.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 12, 2010, 07:20:27 PM
I realize that, and I'd be completely okay with the main character being nerfed if not for the fucking red screen and panting. It's not the gameplay modification that irks me; it's the way they chose to present this gameplay modification.

It's still pretty fun. I'm not pissed I bought it. It's an even better value for me since I never bought any of the DLC maps for Halo 3.

Also, keep in mind that I would rate Halo 2 a 9/10 and the other two perfect 10s, so "worst Halo ever" could easily be an 8.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: ManaByte on March 12, 2010, 07:22:48 PM
You're right. The screen should turn blue and he should pant in Na'vi.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 12, 2010, 07:24:05 PM
It would have been GOTY if that were the case.  8)

But seriously, I would have been fine with the beeping sound to let you know to take cover, like in the other games. That red screen shit should stay in Rainbow 6 and COD where it belongs.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: duckman2000 on March 12, 2010, 08:20:56 PM
I'd be completely okay with the main character being nerfed

He's not though. His bullets do less damage (which makes no fucking sense), your movement is slightly gimped and you take some more damage, but he can still flip tanks over and the game plays like any other Halo. The whole ODST thing is so fucking half-assed.
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Don Flamenco on March 12, 2010, 08:29:50 PM
my only complaint about this game is that the red screen and panting does seem to start way too early.   you take more damage in that mode than you do fully healthy before the warning. 
Title: Re: Halo 3: OSTD
Post by: Draft on March 12, 2010, 08:45:10 PM
I'd be completely okay with the main character being nerfed

He's not though. His bullets do less damage (which makes no fucking sense), your movement is slightly gimped and you take some more damage, but he can still flip tanks over and the game plays like any other Halo. The whole ODST thing is so fucking half-assed.
Word. I normally have great disdain for lore freaks who get hung up over this kind of thing, but come on. You're just a dude. And you flip cars. It's so ridiculous.