I think everyone here owned all three consoles last gen. There's not much reason to do so this gen.
you might as well buy a standalone and borrow a ps3 for the occasional exclusive (or just forget about em. it's not like you'll miss much by not playing ps3 exclusives).
The PS3 has enough exclusive games or "a better version of a multiplatform game" at this point to justify $300 fairly easily. On top of that it's still the best Blu-ray player by a longshot.
Although if Japanese games and Sony 1st party stuff doesn't appeal to you I guess it wouldn't. But anyone who likes Western & Japanese titles equally would find their money's worth.
Chronovore has a 360 and doesn't seem to be interested in any of the PS3-only titles except for Wipeout. He could buy a stand alone blu-ray player cheaper (well, it's Japan, so who knows :P).
Chronovore has a 360 and doesn't seem to be interested in any of the PS3-only titles except for Wipeout. He could buy a stand alone blu-ray player cheaper (well, it's Japan, so who knows :P).
Sort of reminds me of myself before buying an Xbox back in the day. Only one game interested me. Turns out there was a whole bunch of cool games on the system. And I'm sure you could buy a standalone cheaper, but that does one thing, and it's not even guaranteed to do it better. Seems pretty off.
If you have a 360, you don't need a PS3. It's that simple.Even -normal- DVDs are still stupid expensive compared to buying them in the USA. Fry's launches new DVDs at like US$12~13, right? New DVDs seem to get maybe a 5% price reduction from their 3990 price tag for movies, and even old movies on major discount in bins go for 1550 yen instead of the 6~8 bucks I see when I'm stateside. It's bonkers. It's almost as though Japan has a captive consumer audience, incapable of buying import goods because the customer requires subtitling and dubs. Oh, wait...
Also, aren't Bluray movies still really expensive in Japan?
Blurays look really good but the 1080P rips you can find online aren't much worse. I'll go so far as to say that you won't notice a different 90% of the time between a 1080P rip and the actual Bluray source on a 40" TV. Even on my 58" TV, I rarely notice a difference. I have about 120 Blurays but I ain't buying anymore until they start coming down in price.
Gone are the days of tons and tons of truly-exclusive games that make each console worth buying. It also feels like exclusive third-party titles for either system are almost non-existent.
you might as well buy a standalone and borrow a ps3 for the occasional exclusive (or just forget about em. it's not like you'll miss much by not playing ps3 exclusives).
Lulz.
Buy one, Chrono. You get a Blu-Ray player, a neat media system and access to any wicked awesome Sony published game.
Gone are the days of tons and tons of truly-exclusive games that make each console worth buying. It also feels like exclusive third-party titles for either system are almost non-existent.
I don't agree with that at all. Of course I could live without either one of these systems (or any gaming systems at all), but in my opinion there are plenty enough unique experiences on each system to warrant owning both, and to make me feel like I'm missing out when I'm out a system. But then I considered the Xbox worthwhile with Rallisport Challenge as the only real draw at the time, so hey.
you might as well buy a standalone and borrow a ps3 for the occasional exclusive (or just forget about em. it's not like you'll miss much by not playing ps3 exclusives).
Lulz.
Buy one, Chrono. You get a Blu-Ray player, a neat media system and access to any wicked awesome Sony published game.
why should he buy one when he doesn't seem all that interested in ps3 exclusives? none of the games he mentioned in the op are must plays.
hell if i remember right he doesn't even like jrpgs which cuts out one of the best games for the system (demon's soul's)
The titles he mention,
and the possibility of future or unknown favorites,
along with the other media features would be enough to warrant the price difference between a PS3 and a standalone that does not but play Blu-Rays, at least if the price gap is anything like it is here at the moment.
Such as? I'd like to see your list of "plenty." For me, what I'd consider to be the system's first true "killer app" looks to be Uncharted 2-- releasing three years after the PS3's debut.
Oh, I absolutely think that at $300, the PS3 is a great value and makes for a great blu-ray player. But you and I are talking about the games here.
You guys have to keep in mind that duckman's fucking weird- he thought the PS2 sucked and didn't have any good games on it.
For me personally, I consider Wipeout HD, Motorstorm PR, Infamous, Stardust HD and Ratchet must own exclusives that really have no matches on the 360.
Also, I'm not sure what release schedule has to do with anything; he's looking to buy the system now, not three years ago.
You guys have to keep in mind that duckman's fucking weird- he thought the PS2 sucked and didn't have any good games on it.
You guys have to keep in mind that duckman's fucking weird- he thought the PS2 sucked and didn't have any good games on it.
The PS2 had enough good games to justify a purchase. The system itself was quite shit. Or are you now going to claim that it was up to par with the Xbox in terms of hardware and software features?
OK, so here we go. That's a whopping FIVE games. I'll give you six because I can't see Uncharted 2 not being totally fucking awesome. But that's not exactly "plenty." Also although there are certainly differences, Super Stardust is a twin stick shooter. Geometry Wars, anyone? Infamous? How about Crackdown?
The Xbox offered some more features, but the PS2 was hardly "quite shit." You also didn't have to shell out more cash for a remote if you wanted to watch some DVDs. :P
The bit about release schedule had to do with your comment on how long it took for Uncharted 2 to release. Seems pretty irrelevant.
The bit about release schedule had to do with your comment on how long it took for Uncharted 2 to release. Seems pretty irrelevant.
It's irrelevant that (in my opinion, of course) the PS3 is only just now getting quote-unquote "killer apps?" How long did things go on with fanboys proclaiming the next Sony game would be the system savior, only for it to fail?
If you're going to seriously claim that Infamous has an equivalent in Crackdown despite the games being completely different aside from some super human powers and an open world base, then that's just ridiculous. I'm not saying is better than the other, but they are absolutely different. I'll give you Stardust HD, though.
Dude, the system was crap. Low powered,
had several hardware issues
and its DVD player was subpar.
Also lacked a good online service.
I can see how some would love the game library (I didn't, outside of games from Insomniac, Sucker Punch and Santa Monica Studios), but the system itself? I don't get it.
So they're COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, but similar? :lol
What I don't get is you saying you only like a few games on the PS2. It has a fucking amazing library. I have well over 100 games for it.
Outside of one or two games, the PS3 doesn't appeal to any of us - that's why.
And who would willingly fork down $300 on a system for maybe one or two games? Most of us have 360s and PCs, and some of the more immature posters also have that dumb waggle machine.
I don't think it's anyone's fault that Sony has been pretty much irrelevant this generation.
I still can't believe how many people on a mature forum are not multi-console owners. I mean I expect places like GAF or gamefaqs to have a lot of single console owners cause there are a lot of kids with no money and fanboys with little intelligence, but here where most posters are adults with jobs and income and more general objectivity, I generally assumed most people here own all 3 consoles + a decent PC.
Have you bought one on the way home, chronovore? I know I would have.
I haven't played any of the really big exclusives, only PSN stuff like Wipeout, Flower, Super Stardust, and I still think it's an extremely worthy purchase.
I'm not regretting mine so far. Infamous is humpilicious.
PSN store sucks giant mooseballs compared to XBL Marketplace tho.
There are a handful of games that are worth playing on the system, but don't expect overall quality to challenge the 360.
I still can't believe how many people on a mature forum are not multi-console owners. I mean I expect places like GAF or gamefaqs to have a lot of single console owners cause there are a lot of kids with no money and fanboys with little intelligence, but here where most posters are adults with jobs and income and more general objectivity, I generally assumed most people here own all 3 consoles + a decent PC.
I actually think the opposite, people on message boards more easily fall into the trap of thinking they have to own all the systems. Somehow makes the man region bigger.
I had them all last time around, wasn't worth it. And I barely have enough interest to support one console right now.
QuoteIt absolutely has a fucking amazing library... if you like the games, which I generally did not.
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oookay, i thought i'd posted in this tread already - Chron, get a PS3. It's time. But get a 20/60 gig fatty if you can - second hand in TK seems to be under the price of a slim and it has more nice stuffs!
Games - lots of titles that aren't on the X360 for you to try.
Also, I wish people would stop perpetrating the lie that the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market. If that is true, Sony wouldn't be selling Blu-ray players that cost several times the price of a PS3. There's no doubt that PS3 is a good Blu-ray player but there are certainly better ones.
Also, I wish people would stop perpetrating the lie that the PS3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market. If that is true, Sony wouldn't be selling Blu-ray players that cost several times the price of a PS3. There's no doubt that PS3 is a good Blu-ray player but there are certainly better ones.
I sure as hell am not saying that. But I am saying that it's a very good Blu-Ray player that also does a whole lot of things that standalone players don't, and I'd wager it's a good measure better than the entry level stuff on the market. Whether the added features, like playing some pretty awesome exclusives, is worth the by now rather small price difference between a PS3 and a straight up Blu-Ray player is obviously up to personal preferences and needs.
- Flower
- Pixeljunk Monsters
- Pixeljunk Eden
- Elefunk
- Lemmings
- Super Stardust HD
- Uncharted
- Valkyria Chronicles
- Little Big Planet
- Infamous
- Everyday Shooter
- Wipeout HD
- Motorstorm and Pacific Rift
- Folklore
- Demons Soul
- Siren Blood Curse
better exclusives than 360 or wii
X360 surely has the least amount of exclusives coming up. A lot of its "exclusive" games can be played on PC.
My friends only use PC and PS3 for gaming.. The best combo this gen, imo.
Plus, 9 out of 10 multiplatform games still preform better on the 360 and that's annoying.
I live in europe. Most of the gamers here pirate PC games and don't give a shit about the Halo box.
I live in europe. Most of the gamers here pirate PC games and don't give a shit about the Halo box.
That doesn't even make fucking sense. Why does it even matter how the PC games were obtained?
If you still use a PC for gaming, then you obviously don't believe that PC gaming is dead.
Without appearing like a fanboy fucktard, you can't claim that PC gaming is dead while continuing to use PC gaming as an argument against the 360.
Also, your knowledge of the European market is outdated. The PS3, at best, is slightly ahead of the 360 in that region.
For the record, I don't think the PS3 deserves to do better than the 360. Least of all in Europe. It's an excellent second console and it's getting better, but I don't think I could ever recommend it as a primary console for anyone who's more into gaming than the whole media player deal. But at the current price, and with the amount of quality exclusives on the system, it's a totally awesome companion system.wtf, duckman finally coming to his senses :bow
For the record, I don't think the PS3 deserves to do better than the 360. Least of all in Europe. It's an excellent second console and it's getting better, but I don't think I could ever recommend it as a primary console for anyone who's more into gaming than the whole media player deal. But at the current price, and with the amount of quality exclusives on the system, it's a totally awesome companion system.
Buy it :drake:lol
You won't regret it. :drake
QuoteIt absolutely has a fucking amazing library... if you like the games, which I generally did not.
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oookay, i thought i'd posted in this tread already - Chron, get a PS3. It's time. But get a 20/60 gig fatty if you can - second hand in TK seems to be under the price of a slim and it has more nice stuffs!
Games - lots of titles that aren't on the X360 for you to try.
You also can't install custom OS's but who cares about that.
don't expect much from flower. It's a fun 30 min game, but then you'll never touch it again. There's a dozen better PSN games you could play instead.
congrats on buying a bluray playerIn all honesty, that's the main reason I bought it, and the main reason I dropped the extra money on the remote. I used my PS2 as a DVD player for a long, long time and am averse to using the controller for playback if I can avoid it. Just using the controller for that crap reminds me of when I was a dirty poor.
PS3 has a very worthwhile exclusive.
:bow Demon's Souls :bow2
Caved.
Purchased today. 30,000 yen for PS3 and an HDMI cable with it. Another 10% (3300 yen) for the damned remote control. Rented The Departed to have something to check out on the Bluray, will buy Flower this week.
Quotewill buy Flower this week.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo don't do it.
Get Wipeout instead.