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Title: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 03:03:23 PM
Write-ups
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/7710-the-top-200-albums-of-the-2000s-20-1/

Top 20 for lazy folk
spoiler (click to show/hide)
20. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
19. Spoon - Kill the Moonlight
18. Kanye West - Late Registration
17. LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
16. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
15. The Knife - Silent Shout
14. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavillion
13. OutKast - Stankonia
12. The White Stripes - White Blood Cells
11. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele

10. The Avalanches - Since I Left You
9. Panda Bear - Person Pitch
8. Sigur Ros - Ágætis Byrjun
7. The Strokes - Is This It
6. Modest Mouse - The Moon & Antartica
5. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
4. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtro
3. Daft Punk - Discovery
2. Arcade Fire - Funeral
1. Radiohead - Kid A
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Madvillainy at #25, Blueprint at #5...sigh

I can't comment on the other genres on the list but rap wise it seems to focus more on impact than good music. Also odd that while the list is full of indie records from various genres, nearly all the hip hop albums are mainstream releases. I'll never understand why Pitchfork reviews the most underground gutter indie releases no one knows about but won't touch an indie hip hop album unless it's the cool thing to do

Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 03:09:07 PM
pitchfork's rap coverage is just a badly hidden reparations program
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Raban on October 02, 2009, 03:16:09 PM
Top 3 are right, not necessarily in the right order, but right. Everything else I dunno.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 03:17:36 PM
Everything beyond the top 20 or so, as expected, is a clusterfuck.  It's hard to order things when there's 200 of them.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Akala on October 02, 2009, 03:18:17 PM
absolute garbage.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 03:19:40 PM
Where did The Meadowlands end up? That's probably my favorite album of the decade.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Dickie Dee on October 02, 2009, 03:22:11 PM
YHF in the top 5, cool beans.

It's hip-hop list is laughably bad, though I guess that's an accepted Pitchfork quirk by now.

Never got much into Kid A...guess I'll have to keep trying
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 03:29:44 PM
So they gave Dilla's Donuts a 7.9 upon release, then decide to put it at #66 on the list. I don't get it

Also didn't they say Portishead's album was the second best of 08? So why is it #71 on this list lolol
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: OptimoPeach on October 02, 2009, 03:32:42 PM
Also odd that while the list is full of indie records from various genres, nearly all the hip hop albums are mainstream releases. I'll never understand why Pitchfork reviews the most underground gutter indie releases no one knows about but won't touch an indie hip hop album unless it's the cool thing to do
It's to repeal their image as hipster contrarians. "See, we like music made by black people, we aren't skim milk-drinking yuppies after all!" I said it in another thread, but HUGE lol @ The Moon & Antarctica being knocked out of a top 5 spot by The Blueprint to pay lip service to hip-hop. That's one of my favorite albums ever, so I'm probably being a little biased, but come on now.

Anyway, that list is way too big to dissect, but there's not that many objectionable choices in the top 50 or so. Obviously people will nitpick about the ordering a bit, but like BrandNew said, lists these big are always going to be a subjective past a certain point. With a cursory glance at the list I can't think of anything huge that they missed. Then again, I don't listen to nearly as much music as some of you guys.

edit: There's a fucking Cam'ron album on this list :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 03:45:35 PM
Also, PD, this is a staff collaboration with individual write-ups.  So, even if a certain reviewer wasn't fond of an album a couple years ago, the rest of the staff might feel differently and I'm sure some choices were debated at a roundtable due to this.  That's why Andrew W.K is on the list - when it was reviewed, it got a 0.4.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2009, 03:51:51 PM
I think the top 20 is pretty solid, actually. The biggest stinker for me is the fact that Blueprint is on it.

I'm shocked that The Strokes made the top 10. :rock
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 03:54:15 PM
The Life Pursuit is ranked higher than The Meadowlands?

 ???

Don't get me wrong, Life Pursuit was a good album, but The Meadowlands is incredible.

:rock The Wrens :rock
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2009, 03:57:15 PM
Never heard of a lot of the stuff on this. More music!!!
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 03:58:00 PM
Also, PD, this is a staff collaboration with individual write-ups.  So, even if a certain reviewer wasn't fond of an album a couple years ago, the rest of the staff might feel differently and I'm sure some choices were debated at a roundtable due to this.  That's why Andrew W.K is on the list - when it was reviewed, it got a 0.4.

But if the editorial board/staff ok'd a 0.4 review for Andrew WK and a 6.4 review of Discovery I don't see why they'd ok a greatest albums list that features those albums in prominent positions. :lol
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 04:00:56 PM
I love how their #1 album of 2003 is in the mid 50's on the list.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 02, 2009, 04:01:34 PM
Wait, people actually like Andrew W.K.?
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 04:09:30 PM
Origin of Symmetry >>>>>>> at least 190 of these albums.

 ::)

We get it. You love Muse more than life itself.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2009, 04:11:06 PM
Origin of Symmetry >>>>>>> at least 190 of these albums.

Uhhhhhhh

No
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 04:11:25 PM
muse sucks get over it libertarians

I actually find their music fun, but rabid Muse fanboys are an interesting lot.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 04:11:28 PM
Also, PD, this is a staff collaboration with individual write-ups.  So, even if a certain reviewer wasn't fond of an album a couple years ago, the rest of the staff might feel differently and I'm sure some choices were debated at a roundtable due to this.  That's why Andrew W.K is on the list - when it was reviewed, it got a 0.4.

But if the editorial board/staff ok'd a 0.4 review for Andrew WK and a 6.4 review of Discovery I don't see why they'd ok a greatest albums list that features those albums in prominent positions. :lol

I'm pretty sure Pitchfork doesn't work like that.  They Ok a review, regardless of whatever the reviewer has to say about it.  I'm thinking in particular that one JET review:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/9464-shine-on/ (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/9464-shine-on/)

Their reviews don't always reflect the views of the staff as a whole, and that's why they do a collaborative list at the end of each year, with individual lists done a couple weeks after.

Of course, there's always a bit of revisionist history that goes on, much like any publication.  Rolling Stone is worse at this than Pitchfork is.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 04:13:26 PM
I love their review of Zaireeka:

... wait, what? They don't have it up anymore! Those assholes!!
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2009, 04:14:39 PM
I love this list only because it is exposing me to even more music! Listening to the clips on the top 20 for the albums I haven't heard.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 04:16:37 PM
I love this list only because it is exposing me to even more music! Listening to the clips on the top 20 for the albums I haven't heard.

GO BUY THE MEADOWLANDS RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Robo on October 02, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
Their choice for 2009's AOTY is blatantly obvious now.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 04:19:35 PM
I cannot believe you compared Muse to fucking Chopin.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 04:20:17 PM
Their choice for 2009's AOTY is blatantly obvious now.

Merriweather? I sure hope not.

It's good, but not that good.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 04:22:34 PM
Yeah, honestly.  We all knew it was going to win in January, whether you liked it or not.

edit: I'm not getting butthurt, I'm just dazzled that you picked such an awful analogy in the first place.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Robo on October 02, 2009, 04:23:34 PM
Their choice for 2009's AOTY is blatantly obvious now.
it wasn't already?

It was kind of a toss up between Veckatimest and MPP.  I still think they might come up with some ridiculous reason to give it to Veckatimest in spite of this list.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 04:27:37 PM
Knights of Cydonia is certainly this generation's Nocturne Op. 8 No. 2
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Robo on October 02, 2009, 04:28:54 PM
The only other 2009 album on the entire list is Dirty Projector's Bitte Orca.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2009, 04:29:33 PM
So much music. :(
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 04:30:04 PM
Are they even going to bother making a 2009 list?  I'd like them to, I'm curious to see what the other albums they pick will be.

We basically know the top 5 already.

For what it's worth, I like Merriweather a shit load more than Person Pitch.

edit: dude, no, because you're still comparing Muse to art music.  DOES NOT COMPUTE
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2009, 04:32:03 PM
So are there going to be legitimate music sites that make lists that aren't full of stuff like Missy Elliot?
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 04:33:43 PM
I hope AVClub does one.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2009, 04:34:01 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 02, 2009, 04:36:58 PM
Pitchfork's list has Leviathan over Blood Mountain FFS. That alone is wrong.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Robo on October 02, 2009, 04:41:49 PM
When did Muse fans start stealing talking points from Tool fans?
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Himu on October 02, 2009, 04:43:11 PM
I'm going to finish my 60's-80's music binge and then start on 90's and 00's
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 04:43:37 PM
I'm going to finish my 60's-80's music binge and then start on 90's and 00's

Meadowlands. Now.

Oh, as for their best of 09 list, Pains of Being Pure at Heart better be high up on it.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 04:54:06 PM
When did Muse fans start stealing talking points from Tool fans?

Dat complexity  :drake
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 04:59:27 PM
I'm going to finish my 60's-80's music binge and then start on 90's and 00's

Meadowlands. Now.

Oh, as for their best of 09 list, Pains of Being Pure at Heart better be high up on it.

'Tis truth, all of this post. :rock
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: OptimoPeach on October 02, 2009, 05:01:26 PM
Pitchfork's list has Leviathan over Blood Mountain FFS. That alone is wrong.
Naw, Blood Mountain was pretty underwhelming. Fortunately, Crack the Skye made up for it

I'd rather they didn't even include metal on their lists. Throwing a single album on there like an afterthought is almost more aggravating than ignoring the genre completely.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 05:15:50 PM
I'm going to finish my 60's-80's music binge and then start on 90's and 00's

Meadowlands. Now.

Oh, as for their best of 09 list, Pains of Being Pure at Heart better be high up on it.

'Tis truth, all of this post. :rock

It's much more enjoyable than Merriweather and Vecktimest, but seeing how it's more accessible to mainstream listeners, it'll probably be in the high teens or something.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 05:18:35 PM
Oh, well, more enjoyable than Vecktimest, sure, but damn does Merriweather got a buncha hate  :'(

Merriweather is still my album of the year, sure thing.  No album in the last few years of my serious enjoyment of music has swept me up like that.  In fact I would've put Merriweather higher on this list, tbh.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 02, 2009, 05:21:22 PM
Oh, well, more enjoyable than Vecktimest, sure, but damn does Merriweather got a buncha hate  :'(

Merriweather is still my album of the year, sure thing.  No album in the last few years of my serious enjoyment of music has swept me up like that.  In fact I would've put Merriweather higher on this list, tbh.

I don't hate Merriweather, I like Animal Collective a whole lot, but I also don't understand what is so AOTY-incredible about it either.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 02, 2009, 05:26:34 PM
At least Willco's album made the list, now he can afford to keep Evilbore open.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 05:26:55 PM
Oh, well, more enjoyable than Vecktimest, sure, but damn does Merriweather got a buncha hate  :'(

Merriweather is still my album of the year, sure thing.  No album in the last few years of my serious enjoyment of music has swept me up like that.  In fact I would've put Merriweather higher on this list, tbh.

I don't hate Merriweather, I like Animal Collective a whole lot, but I also don't understand what is so AOTY-incredible about it either.

For me it was just a really personal experience when I first heard it.  I remember, it was Christmas day when it leaked and I was up in my room fucking around with my gifts (new headphones, an axiom keyboard) when I saw it on what.  I hadn't heard anything about it leading up to that day, and I remember I kinda liked Strawberry Jam but not enough to constantly keep it playing.  As soon as In the Flowers culminated halfway through the song I knew I was going to be blown away by it, and I was.  I listened to it so fucking much that night, I've never done that before with a new music release.  I immediately ordered it on vinyl the next day.

In the Flower, My Girls, Summertime Clothes, Also Frightened, Brothersport are just all fantastic pop songs that summed up the entire decade for me and what I realized I valued most in music: melody and depth.  It holds a very special place in my heart, even though it only came out 8 months ago.

edit: No, Strawberry Jam isn't on there, which I agree with, but I'm sure they would've wanted to put it on there.  They already had Sung Tongs and Feels on the list.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: BlueTsunami on October 02, 2009, 05:36:45 PM
I've been so into Trip-Hop/Jazz - Lounge that I look at this list and am totally lost (aside from the massive albums whose knowledge of their existence cannot be avoided).

:punch MY MUSIC TASTE VS. THE WORLD :punch
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 02, 2009, 05:39:10 PM
Also the lack of Deer Tick and Frightened Rabbit is criminal.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 02, 2009, 05:43:19 PM
lol pitchfork lol

Also, mega lulz @ GS for committing the prog rock tard's original sin of confusing technical proficiency with good music.  There's a reason why Steely Dan and Rush aren't the biggest bands of all time ever- because you have to be an anti-social dillweed to care about prog rock.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 06:07:26 PM
If Muse is Chopin, wouldn't Rush be _____

sounds like an SAT question
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 02, 2009, 06:07:32 PM
GS- But never at the expense of creating listenable music.

PD- Rush would be Bach.  For his time period, Bach was like a space alien as far as his music is concerned.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 06:13:03 PM
Songwriting...Muse? I'm confused
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 06:28:50 PM
Not really, and I like the album. I can't think of any their songs that blow me away in terms of songwriting. Overall most of them are hard rock songs. Good of course, but nothing that makes me take note
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 02, 2009, 06:30:07 PM
NO ONES GOING TO TAKE ME ALIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 06:34:31 PM
[youtube=560,345]QuV2KyGT_D8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 02, 2009, 06:44:40 PM
Wow, from Muse to Linkin Park.  That's like going from the kiddie pool to the distinguished mentally-challenged fellow pool as far as depth in songwriting goes.  WTF Maurice.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 06:45:18 PM
I'm fairly certain he's kidding.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 02, 2009, 06:48:16 PM
 :lol

Just pointing out while better musicians, Muse's stuff usually boils down to an over used pattern like LK
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 02, 2009, 07:05:07 PM
At least they picked the right Outkast album to be in the Top 20.  Their 2003 album, especially The Love Below, is one of the most overrated rap albums of all time.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 02, 2009, 07:28:55 PM
yep
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 02, 2009, 07:32:08 PM
You forgot Hysteria
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Robo on October 02, 2009, 07:36:39 PM
That's a bad example.  Linkin Park is pattern-based down to a formula, which is a problem with their reliance on a gimmick.  Muse has just been recreating Paranoid Android for the last decade, but they're not formulaic in how they go about doing it (lyrics aside).  To their credit, lately they've been switching it up a bit, which is nice even if the results haven't been any good.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2009, 07:52:14 PM
I wish I could be bothered to argue for Muse, but their new album killed any chance for that.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Robo on October 02, 2009, 07:55:27 PM
That's a bad example.  Linkin Park is pattern-based down to a formula, which is a problem with their reliance on a gimmick.  Muse has just been recreating Paranoid Android for the last decade, but they're not formulaic in how they go about doing it (lyrics aside).  To their credit, lately they've been switching it up a bit, which is nice even if the results haven't been any good.

The only Muse song with a structure remotely similar to Paranoid Android is Citizen Erased, and the chord palettes are nothing alike.

That's not what I was getting at.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 02, 2009, 08:02:32 PM
I agree, but I also don't give a shit about Pitchfork. And it's not like this is a surprise. They don't exact give glowing reviews to Muse albums.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 03, 2009, 02:39:33 AM
Still waiting for one example of great Muse songwriting. Perhaps I was being too outrageous with the LK comparison. But even their best songs still sound like run of the mill hard rock songs
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 03, 2009, 03:57:15 AM
I saw them on the same tour, GS. So awesome. I went with 6 other people to MSG, and they all loved it too -- even the couple of people who had never really listened to them before.
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 03, 2009, 04:10:21 AM
I remember that version of Sunburn. I was only really disappointed about no Citizen Erased. :(
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Positive Touch on October 03, 2009, 09:52:18 AM
get a room, you two
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Trent Dole on October 03, 2009, 12:50:24 PM
The new Muse record sounds a lot like Queen. A lot. To the point where there's no reason to listen to it when you can just listen to an actual Queen record. :drake
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 03, 2009, 02:12:15 PM
Still waiting for one example of great Muse songwriting. Perhaps I was being too outrageous with the LK comparison. But even their best songs still sound like run of the mill hard rock songs

What do you consider good songwriting? If you're talking about lyrics and poetic, Bob Dylan stuff with a strong message, then no, they aren't good songwriters. But they're brilliant instrumentally on OoS. And I'm not talking about boring Malmsteen-esque shredding; what I'm saying that the stuff they play on their instruments sounds really fucking good (to me). The riffs are intricate and hard-rocking, and they sound original. The different sections of the songs all work really well together. The melodies are good.

But you know, I could just be biased since I saw them live in 2007 and they completely blew me away.

A band that has nice songwriting without having particularly complex instrumental work is Nirvana. Cobain wasn't nearly as good of a guitarist as Cantrell, Cornell, Thayil, etc but he wrote better songs.

Jack White is a good song writer imo
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 03, 2009, 02:46:03 PM
:bow Jack White :bow2
Title: Re: Pitchfork top 200 albums of the 2000s thread of IMPACT>QUALITY
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 03, 2009, 03:27:34 PM
Pains of being Pure at Heart :-*
The XX  :-*
Bat for Lashes :-*

That's my pitchfork friendly list for the year

The XX album is fantastic.

Yet again, Cohen rocks.