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Title: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 05, 2009, 01:12:21 PM
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The rumors have been flying for months. From the outrageous (some actually thought we were bought by Disney, which was quite funny), to the right on (our forums pieced together all the clues from the last issue), the time has come to lay all rumors to rest. The November cover is indeed, Disney Epic Mickey, coming exclusively to the Nintendo Wii from Junction Point and Disney Interactive Studios.

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/05/spoiler-alert-epic-november-issue-revealed.aspx

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Post by: Jansen on October 05, 2009, 01:18:11 PM
what a waste of an awesome concept.
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 05, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
Aw fuck. What a shame.
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Post by: Jansen on October 05, 2009, 01:22:30 PM
wow i can't believe they banned you on gaf.

looks like i might face the banhammer as well lol
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Post by: archie4208 on October 05, 2009, 01:24:53 PM
At least it will be free.
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Post by: maxy on October 05, 2009, 01:27:17 PM
Wii :bow2

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Post by: Jansen on October 05, 2009, 01:28:14 PM
:piss wii :piss2
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 05, 2009, 01:28:14 PM
wow i can't believe they banned you on gaf.

looks like i might face the banhammer as well lol

All I said was that the platform made it uninteresting, which is true. I could have edited my post, but fuck that.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 05, 2009, 01:28:46 PM
People actually think something like this would sell on the Xbox360 or PS3? lawl
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Post by: Bebpo on October 05, 2009, 01:29:33 PM
This is weird because there was this thread about the game many months ago and I remember saying I was disappointed the concept art wouldn't be doable on the Wii.

Isn't this old news?  Or am I just having deja vu
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Post by: Jansen on October 05, 2009, 01:31:33 PM
both ps3 and 360 combined would probably end up selling better than it would on wii

wii: where third party exclusives go to die
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Post by: archie4208 on October 05, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
This is weird because there was this thread about the game many months ago and I remember saying I was disappointed the concept art wouldn't be doable on the Wii.

Isn't this old news?  Or am I just having deja vu

It was heavily hinted to be a Wii exclusive, but never confirmed.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 05, 2009, 01:32:39 PM
People actually think something like this would sell on the Xbox360 or PS3? lawl

Better than on Wii for sure. But hey, I'm sure soccer moms everywhere will be thrilled to buy into a dark twist on the traditionally safe.

Whatever, Wii sucks, and now the game will suck too.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 05, 2009, 01:36:28 PM
It's on Wii, and Wii sucks. Even if the game is alright, it will still suck a bit since it's on Wii. I also remember the last Warren Spector game I played that was developed with a focus on more popular, underpowered systems and for an audience that favored simplicity. It wasn't great.
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Post by: Third on October 05, 2009, 01:38:30 PM
Epic Mickey
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Post by: Jansen on October 05, 2009, 01:38:44 PM
invisible war was such a pile of shit that it damn near invalidates all of spector's previous work
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 05, 2009, 01:39:26 PM
It's on Wii, and Wii sucks. I also remember the last Warren Spector game I played that was developed with a focus on more popular, underpowered systems.

Yes, I remember that Deus Ex IW point from when I made it first.  You're still judging the game without knowing anything about it except for the concept art (which you like) and the hardware it's running on.  That's really lame, dude.

I like the concept art based on proper rendition, loathe the platform and have less than great confidence in the director. That's plenty of reason to be judgmental of the game.

invisible war was such a pile of shit that it damn near invalidates all of spector's previous work

Well, no. But the reasons for its shitness are troubling.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 05, 2009, 01:42:20 PM
You're also a fan of sliding your dick in and out of the PS3's disc drive.  Invalidates your opinion.

If the game is designed well and uses the strengths of the system to its advantage, how is that at all a bad thing?  If this looks as well as Galaxy and has a fun concept, it should be great.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 05, 2009, 01:43:13 PM
You're also a fan of sliding your dick in and out of the PS3's disc drive.  Invalidates your opinion.

Worst post ever.
I like the concept art based on proper rendition, loathe the platform and have less than great confidence in the director. That's plenty of reason to be judgmental of the game.

Well, I can't tell you what you should or shouldn't use as criteria for judgment.

You've certainly tried.
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Post by: archie4208 on October 05, 2009, 01:43:39 PM
Stupid noob time:

What all games has Warren worked on?  I know he is worshiped on the internet, but the only game I know of that he developed was Deus Ex (which I enjoyed alot)
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Post by: Jansen on October 05, 2009, 01:44:15 PM
You're also a fan of sliding your dick in and out of the PS3's disc drive.  Invalidates your opinion.



not surprising to see you give him shit since you're a fan of sliding your dick in and out of the wii's disc drive.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 05, 2009, 01:44:21 PM
I bet the Wii fegs on neofag are celebrating like fucking naboo after the pod races
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 05, 2009, 01:44:59 PM
That cover is hot fire.
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Post by: Third on October 05, 2009, 01:45:48 PM
That cover is hot fire.

I bet that cover is more impressive than the whole game.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 05, 2009, 01:46:02 PM
I like all my consoles just about equally, 360 a little more so obviously.  I just have the common sense not to write off every single Wii game without playing them.
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 05, 2009, 01:47:53 PM
I'm still interested in what comes of this, but the fact that the wicked concept art isn't going to be used to its full potential is pretty heart breaking.
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Post by: archie4208 on October 05, 2009, 01:49:57 PM
Thanks for the list.  That is an impressive pedigree, but most of those games come from an era that I never participated in, which explains why I never really noticed him.  It seems odd he would go from Deus Ex to Mickey Mouse, but I'm sure the game will turn out to be good.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 05, 2009, 01:52:10 PM
Wow this topic is hateful :lol
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 05, 2009, 01:53:36 PM
Wasn't Thief Deadly Shadows pretty good?  I always wanted to try that out.
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 05, 2009, 01:54:12 PM
I'm still interested in what comes of this, but the fact that the wicked concept art isn't going to be used to its full potential is pretty heart breaking.

I agree, it's quite unfortunate that it's not a PC exclusive, but those are getting so rare from the big companies these days.   :'(

Yeah, yeah, you're trolling consoles. But I mean, not even HD? That's sad stuff.
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Post by: archie4208 on October 05, 2009, 01:55:47 PM
Wasn't Thief Deadly Shadows pretty good?  I always wanted to try that out.

The Cradle  :bawl
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Post by: tiesto on October 05, 2009, 02:01:16 PM
What was Warren Spector's involvement in Ultima 6 and 7?
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 05, 2009, 02:09:12 PM
oh boy, hot-topic-meets-mickey game goes to the platform owned by the most girls and manchildren

shokku
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 05, 2009, 02:09:26 PM
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What was Warren Spector's involvement in Ultima 6 and 7?
Ruining dreams
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 05, 2009, 02:15:07 PM
oh boy, hot-topic-meets-mickey game goes to the platform owned by the most girls and manchildren

shokku

you should be all for that!
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 05, 2009, 02:22:23 PM
given that the only thing i hate more than the beatles are disney's mascots, why would that be
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 05, 2009, 02:27:59 PM
meh, you hate joyous things

where on the scale of puzzle quest to animal crossing-level hate do you put the beatles, disney mascots, and nintendo mascots
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Post by: Purple Filth on October 05, 2009, 02:29:49 PM
So its finally confirmed, not that surprising and that cover looks fucking crazy.

I would check this out.
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 05, 2009, 02:40:12 PM
:/ I knew it was Wii exclusive, but there was always hope it'd be on a real console.
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Post by: Tieno on October 05, 2009, 02:41:38 PM
Too bad you can't play potential. Wasted, completely wasted.
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Post by: etiolate on October 05, 2009, 03:08:34 PM
the homophobros would never touch this

much better suited to Wii
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 05, 2009, 03:18:16 PM
So once this bombs they'll put it on real systems, right?

I don't know. This is Warren Spector. The man, who on Deus Ex 2, ADMITTED that the level design suffered because it had to work on the Xbox AND PC, then one paragraph later said the game would have been EXACTLY the same if it was on the PC only. Also, he thought a circular-based UI wasn't a waste of space on a rectangular screen. Additionally he said he didn't dumb down the game to make it more accessible for console players, just that the original was too complicated. He also said he'd always wanted to make a console game, by somehow bastardizing one of the best PC games of all time.

Up to DX1 is more of a fluke than anything else. The guy doesn't deserve the praise he gets.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 05, 2009, 03:28:14 PM
I liked Deus Ex 2. It was a lot different, but still a fun game.
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 05, 2009, 04:35:50 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17897063&postcount=1201
26 banned.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 05, 2009, 05:12:44 PM
I have to go to work now, but there's nothing like waking up to epic butthurt over a mickey mouse game.
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Post by: bork on October 05, 2009, 05:46:29 PM
"Epic Mickey."  LOL.

Isn't that what Kingdom Hearts already is?
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 05, 2009, 05:48:47 PM
Well, now he's just a lanky mickey that bleeds ink.  I'd like to think thats better than gothic hoody mickey.  Wait they both sound like they're trying too hard!
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 05, 2009, 05:49:30 PM
"Epic Mickey."  LOL.

Isn't that what Kingdom Hearts already is?

KH is Action RPG with FF characters by Square.

This is steampunk world with Warren Spector.... not too many other details.
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 05, 2009, 06:32:55 PM
I do know that at GDC a few years ago he was being a cocky bastard at some conference, basically saying who he would and wouldn't hire. My friend was sitting behind him, in shock at how arrogant he was.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 05, 2009, 06:37:38 PM
Mewthree made Wii Pixar games at THQ.  Ha.

edit: His studio got shut down or something.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on October 05, 2009, 06:42:19 PM
But it's not kiddy, it's dark and mature™!  You do not understand it because it is too deep for you to understand.
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 05, 2009, 06:50:42 PM
Don't cookie cutter it, everything mewthree made was shit.
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 05, 2009, 06:57:49 PM
Don't cookie cutter it, everything mewthree made was shit.

Gameplay programming on Up (PS3, 360 and Wii) and UI stuff for Spongebob Truth or Square (360 and Wii).

Up turned out ok, although everyone wishes games had more time, especially when Pixar bumped up the release 2 months earlier than planned. The game was short was the biggest complaint, which I'm fine with. I just wish the cave level or Kevin chase scene made it in. None of the reviews bitched about anything I worked on, which made me feel good. It was vastly improved from Wall-E, which I had no hand in.

I have less faith in Spongebob. But once again, any of the complaints won't be in things I worked on.

The studio didn't get shut down, yet, but I DID get laid off in August because we lost a project and let's be honest, the economy is terrible.

I have a new job now, though.
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Post by: Diunx on October 05, 2009, 07:40:25 PM
lol I was banned because of this game, it would probably be better on the master system than on the wii anyway.
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 05, 2009, 08:16:35 PM
as much as I love Oscar and Warren I can't get behind this.
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Post by: cool breeze on October 05, 2009, 08:17:35 PM
I'm still interested in what comes of this, but the fact that the wicked concept art isn't going to be used to its full potential is pretty heart breaking.

That's pretty much how I feel.

It would have been nice to play it on hardware powerful enough to do capture the concept art better (PC/360/PS3), but hey, maybe the in-game style is very different anyway, or the game would just suck on any platform.  If it's a good game, I'll play it on whatever platform.  Only the most autistic of the Nintendo fans would pretend like they wouldn't want this on more powerful hardware.

I can get over bad graphics unless the performance is poor.  The reason why it's a bit more annoying in this case is because the only thing there is to go on is how the game might look based on the concept art.
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Post by: Yeti on October 05, 2009, 09:00:41 PM
Fuck, I'm going to have to plug in my Wii again once this comes out.  :-\
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 05, 2009, 09:18:04 PM
You're also a fan of sliding your dick in and out of the PS3's disc drive.  Invalidates your opinion.

If the game is designed well and uses the strengths of the system to its advantage, how is that at all a bad thing?  If this looks as well as Galaxy and has a fun concept, it should be great.

Sliding your dick in and out of your sister doesn't make you the expert on the subject.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 05, 2009, 10:35:03 PM
hardy har
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 05, 2009, 10:36:23 PM
You're also a fan of sliding your dick in and out of the PS3's disc drive.  Invalidates your opinion.

If the game is designed well and uses the strengths of the system to its advantage, how is that at all a bad thing?  If this looks as well as Galaxy and has a fun concept, it should be great.

Sliding your dick in and out of your sister doesn't make you the expert on the subject.

It makes him a specialist.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 05, 2009, 10:51:33 PM
pic plz
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 05, 2009, 11:25:50 PM
Don't cookie cutter it, everything mewthree made was shit.

Gameplay programming on Up (PS3, 360 and Wii) and UI stuff for Spongebob Truth or Square (360 and Wii).

Up turned out ok, although everyone wishes games had more time, especially when Pixar bumped up the release 2 months earlier than planned. The game was short was the biggest complaint, which I'm fine with. I just wish the cave level or Kevin chase scene made it in. None of the reviews bitched about anything I worked on, which made me feel good. It was vastly improved from Wall-E, which I had no hand in.

I have less faith in Spongebob. But once again, any of the complaints won't be in things I worked on.

The studio didn't get shut down, yet, but I DID get laid off in August because we lost a project and let's be honest, the economy is terrible.

I have a new job now, though.

I played the Up demo. I had fun.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 05, 2009, 11:34:54 PM
My kid liked the Up game. She usually only likes Crackdown and Banjo, so hey.
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Post by: GoofyGoober on October 06, 2009, 12:57:06 AM
I'll wait for screen shots and a little gameplay video before I pass final judgement. So far the artwork has been interesting. If it plays more like a point and click adventure. I'm good to go, but it's a waggle fest I will pass.
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Post by: ManaByte on October 06, 2009, 01:31:35 AM
Um this was confirmed for Wii months ago; especially when gameplay details were leaked where you "paint" the levels back to normal with the wiimote.
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Post by: pilonv1 on October 06, 2009, 01:45:25 AM
I wanted to play the Up game after seeing the movie. Disappointed to hear the Kevin chase was left out :(
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Post by: originalz on October 06, 2009, 03:19:09 AM
Why is the name "M3wThr33" so familiar to me?  Hmm, "#K&P" doesn't have any meaning for you, does it?
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 06, 2009, 03:38:30 AM
I wonder at what point, 26 bannings is ok. I mean, if the community has a response to such a game, why are they censored for it. It's not like one person was acting out, but a large group share the feeling.

I wanted to play the Up game after seeing the movie. Disappointed to hear the Kevin chase was left out :(

The game is only $40 on all plats and came with cash to see the movie. (Also, easy Platinum trophy and 1000/1000.)

It was originally assigned to an intern. The level design, done by a real good designer who left our company after the game, was coming along nicely. Basically it was a fixed perspective chase down a long tunnel, similar to the Battletoads level or Crash Bandicoot runs, but into the screen, not away from it.

Sadly the intern left the company after like 2 months and no one knew why. We joke that he fled to Mexico, but honestly, no one talked to him, so we have no clue. Often times he'd wander into the hallway and just zone out. They pulled a senior programmer onto it to finish it up, but it just wasn't done in time.

Shit happens.

Why is the name "M3wThr33" so familiar to me?  Hmm, "#K&P" doesn't have any meaning for you, does it?

Eh? Not really. I was banned from NeoGaf, but before that it was mostly Nintendorks, some webcomics, G4TV and...
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Noble Strife's Pokemon Forest X
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 06, 2009, 07:41:05 AM
I'm still interested in what comes of this, but the fact that the wicked concept art isn't going to be used to its full potential is pretty heart breaking.
 Only the most autistic of the Nintendo fans would pretend like they wouldn't want this on more powerful hardware.

Why would I want it on a platform I don't own ???

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I really don't care about mickey mouse games either way
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Post by: cool breeze on October 06, 2009, 11:10:22 AM
I'm still interested in what comes of this, but the fact that the wicked concept art isn't going to be used to its full potential is pretty heart breaking.
 Only the most autistic of the Nintendo fans would pretend like they wouldn't want this on more powerful hardware.

Why would I want it on a platform I don't own ???

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I really don't care about mickey mouse games either way
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I'm sure Nintendo fans will jump onto 360-level hardware when Nintendo releases a system of matching it in the next decade or two.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 06, 2009, 12:59:24 PM
I wonder at what point, 26 bannings is ok. I mean, if the community has a response to such a game, why are they censored for it. It's not like one person was acting out, but a large group share the feeling.

A large group of people trolling doesn't mean you say trolling is now okay. It just means you have a messageboard full of trolls.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 01:38:18 PM
I wonder at what point, 26 bannings is ok. I mean, if the community has a response to such a game, why are they censored for it. It's not like one person was acting out, but a large group share the feeling.

A large group of people trolling doesn't mean you say trolling is now okay. It just means you have a messageboard full of trolls.

Oh bug off. Expressing disappointment and disinterest due to platform is hardly trolling. And even if it was, lighten the fuck up about it. I don't particularly care if I get banned, but the flat "ban for anyone who" routine is just drab shit.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 06, 2009, 01:50:59 PM
Oh bug off. Expressing disappointment and disinterest due to platform is hardly trolling. And even if it was, lighten the fuck up about it. I don't particularly care if I get banned, but the flat "ban for anyone who" routine is just drab shit.

Whatever. You got banned. Deal with it. Evilbore and GAF are different. And they should be. I'll always say GAF is both inconsistent, contradictory, and hypocritical about how they enforce their rules. That being said I would have banned all those people and more. If Epic Mickey coming to the Wii is sad to you then keep it to yourself. Or you get banned. It is what it is. Their site. Their rules.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 01:59:08 PM
That being said I would have banned all those people and more. If Epic Mickey coming to the Wii is sad to you then keep it to yourself.

And again, there's really nothing off with expressing discontentment with platform exclusivity. It takes an especially dull and sterile view to consider a heartfelt "god damn it, it's on Wii? I wish it wasn't" to be dissenting behavior worthy of a banishment. Good for them, I guess.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 06, 2009, 02:01:29 PM
If gloating (which could be considered trolling) is allowed, being able to state unhappiness should also be allowed.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 06, 2009, 02:06:34 PM
That being said I would have banned all those people and more. If Epic Mickey coming to the Wii is sad to you then keep it to yourself.
And again, there's really nothing off with expressing discontentment with platform exclusivity. It takes an especially dull and sterile view to consider a heartfelt "god damn it, it's on Wii? I wish it wasn't" to be dissenting behavior worthy of a banishment. Good for them, I guess.

There are lots of games that don't exist on the systems I want them too. I don't go into those threads and express that sentiment however because all it does is encourage flame wars and fanboyism imo.

Exclusive games exist. They always have. And they always will. We all know we want them on other systems. Stating the obvious adds nothing to the thread and in fact encourages the worst behavior out of people as they start attacking the specific platform.

GAF has never been consistent with enforcing that rule. I've seen people port beg or platform denigrate all the time on GAF and very rarely is it banned. (Especially from PC users for what its worth). I doubt that will change in the future. The only probably I have like I said is GAF is inconsistent and preferential. I'm fine with banning it in all cases. But actually do it in all cases. I'm sure there is more worthy conversation to be had than a bunch of PS3 and 360 guys entering a Wii thread to continue to dump on the Wii or a Wii exclusive game.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 02:12:27 PM
Exclusive games exist. They always have. And they always will. We all know we want them on other systems. Stating the obvious adds nothing to the thread and in fact encourages the worst behavior out of people as they start attacking the specific platform.

It adds a human element to it, for sure, but that's evidently no longer desirable in that suffocatingly narrow and sterile environment. The status of this particular game was hinted at but never confirmed, so some held out hope that it would be at the very least a multiplatform game. Those people then expressing disappointment may not add anything to the discussion, but it's an honest reaction, and one you would probably find in any real life situation. And it certainly not something that I'd without scrutiny slap a month ban on. There is a difference between that, and continuous griping about it in that and future threads.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on October 06, 2009, 02:15:36 PM
Exclusive games exist. They always have. And they always will. We all know we want them on other systems. Stating the obvious adds nothing to the thread and in fact encourages the worst behavior out of people as they start attacking the specific platform.

It adds a human element to it, for sure, but that's evidently no longer desirable in that suffocatingly narrow and sterile environment. The status of this particular game was hinted at but never confirmed, so some held out hope that it would be at the very least a multiplatform game. Those people then expressing disappointment may not add anything to the discussion, but it's an honest reaction, and one you would probably find in any real life situation. And it certainly not something that I'd without scrutiny slap a month ban on. There is a difference between that, and continuous griping about it in that and future threads.


I'll agree there is an honest difference between "damn I wish this came to my system" versus "oh it's coming to the shitty Wii".

I glanced at that thread and seemed to notice a lot of the latter instead of the former. And pointing out an obvious fact that the 360 or PS3 is more powerful than the Wii dances close to the latter also.
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 06, 2009, 10:56:50 PM
How much was a ticket? Around $50?

http://www.tokyodisneyresort.co.jp/tdr/english/plan/ticket/index.html

Hmm. $47-$58. Like the cost of a game, only more epic.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 06, 2009, 11:00:42 PM
How much was a ticket? Around $50?

http://www.tokyodisneyresort.co.jp/tdr/english/plan/ticket/index.html

Hmm. $47-$58. Like the cost of a game, only more epic.

If you go after a certain time in the evening you can get in for pretty cheap. That's what we did on our honeymoon and still did everything at DisneySea.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 07, 2009, 12:04:06 AM
This game sounds pretty awesome. Shame it's not in HD, but maybe Wii HD will be out by then anyway?

Next year. And it'll have "Stars" instead of Achievements.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 07, 2009, 01:17:52 AM
Really, they're really going to see sales tank?  You really think that?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 07, 2009, 02:20:58 AM
Price was never a barrier holding back Wii popularity, especially to the new market they acquired. I've NEVER heard someone say the Wii is too expensive. They never cared.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 07, 2009, 02:25:42 AM
Price was never a barrier holding back Wii popularity, especially to the new market they acquired. I've NEVER heard someone say the Wii is too expensive. They never cared.

Pretty much. If anything, I'd imagine that it's a combination of word of mouth turning sour, and the system simply no longer having the new toy appeal. It's still selling well so its hard to talk about it in the way one would talk about bad months for the other systems, but there certainly doesn't seem to be as much positive buzz.

Still wonder how this game will fit into the market Nintendo has created here. I seriously doubt that soccer moms are going to be thrilled about their kids playing a twisted take on Disney, so that leaves the "core" gamers.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 07, 2009, 02:49:51 AM
It would still probably do better on Wii no matter what the premise.  It's Disney and Mickey Fuckin' Mouse, just the name and properties linked should be a greenlight for success on a platform that primarily caters to a family market.  Can't really say that would happen were it to release on the 360.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 07, 2009, 03:12:46 AM
What was interesting, and kept the PS2 going for so long was that nearly everyone had one, and by the end of the lifetime, with 100 million sold, if you released a game, only a FRACTION of a FRACTION had to buy it to make cheap ports profitable.
That was because the PS2 gamers kept buying PS2 games.

I wonder if Wii owners will do the same. I heavily doubt it.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 07, 2009, 03:12:58 AM
Fingers crossed, eh.
I think that image quality is the main thing holding Nintendo back right now (online gaming is another one, but it's not the big deal that HD is), and they're gonna see sales tank until they realise this. Throw in HD and the system instantly becomes appealing to devs too as they now have 3 platforms they can release the same game on.

...
I like you dude, because usually you're a rational guy.  I'll just say that the majority of consumers don't care about HD and they don't care about online social networks in their games.  The main thing holding the wii back is moving its consumers beyond the pack-in Wii Sports to whats on the shelves.  Its so weird when I talk to 3 or 4 different people and I get the same response of "just mariokart and wiisports mostly"  Although I talked to a girl who also played Endless Ocean and that was a good geek out moment.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 07, 2009, 03:21:06 AM
It would still probably do better on Wii no matter what the premise.  It's Disney and Mickey Fuckin' Mouse, just the name and properties linked should be a greenlight for success on a platform that primarily caters to a family market.  Can't really say that would happen were it to release on the 360.

Names could potentially mean jack shit if the accompanying sales material doesn't have that Family Market appeal. And if the concept art and the cover is anything to go by, it's not your typical Mickey Mouse & Co.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 07, 2009, 01:36:49 PM
Fingers crossed, eh.
I think that image quality is the main thing holding Nintendo back right now (online gaming is another one, but it's not the big deal that HD is), and they're gonna see sales tank until they realise this. Throw in HD and the system instantly becomes appealing to devs too as they now have 3 platforms they can release the same game on.

...
I like you dude, because usually you're a rational guy.  I'll just say that the majority of consumers don't care about HD and they don't care about online social networks in their games.  The main thing holding the wii back is moving its consumers beyond the pack-in Wii Sports to whats on the shelves.  Its so weird when I talk to 3 or 4 different people and I get the same response of "just mariokart and wiisports mostly"  Although I talked to a girl who also played Endless Ocean and that was a good geek out moment.

But that's the exception, not the rule.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 07, 2009, 02:01:08 PM
Wii sucks
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Oblivion on October 07, 2009, 02:55:39 PM
Fingers crossed, eh.
I think that image quality is the main thing holding Nintendo back right now (online gaming is another one, but it's not the big deal that HD is), and they're gonna see sales tank until they realise this. Throw in HD and the system instantly becomes appealing to devs too as they now have 3 platforms they can release the same game on.

You mean HD like just upscaling to 720p? Cause that won't likely make a difference in developers' eyes, since the issue has more to deal with Wii being at least 10 times weaker, hardware-wise than the other two.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 07, 2009, 02:57:57 PM
Wii sucks

Seconded.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: demi on October 07, 2009, 03:04:18 PM
A Wii game means a USB Loaded game, which is fine with me.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 07, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Fingers crossed, eh.
I think that image quality is the main thing holding Nintendo back right now (online gaming is another one, but it's not the big deal that HD is), and they're gonna see sales tank until they realise this. Throw in HD and the system instantly becomes appealing to devs too as they now have 3 platforms they can release the same game on.

You mean HD like just upscaling to 720p? Cause that won't likely make a difference in developers' eyes, since the issue has more to deal with Wii being at least 10 times weaker, hardware-wise than the other two.

More than anything else, it needs RAM. Then again, every console needs more of it. Everything benefits from more RAM.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 07, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
Fingers crossed, eh.
I think that image quality is the main thing holding Nintendo back right now (online gaming is another one, but it's not the big deal that HD is), and they're gonna see sales tank until they realise this. Throw in HD and the system instantly becomes appealing to devs too as they now have 3 platforms they can release the same game on.

...
I like you dude, because usually you're a rational guy.  I'll just say that the majority of consumers don't care about HD and they don't care about online social networks in their games.  The main thing holding the wii back is moving its consumers beyond the pack-in Wii Sports to whats on the shelves.  Its so weird when I talk to 3 or 4 different people and I get the same response of "just mariokart and wiisports mostly"  Although I talked to a girl who also played Endless Ocean and that was a good geek out moment.

But that's the exception, not the rule.

Endless Ocean was one of those leggy games that ended up selling quite well.  I'm thinking it was the $30 pricetage. 
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 02:34:38 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3176386

Quote
It seems like the revelation that Epic Mickey would be a Wii exclusive may have come too soon. Many have noted that while the Game Informer teaser page once claimed the game was "coming exclusively" for the Wii, all references to that exclusivity have been removed. Junction Point may be considering other options for the game, but we won't know for sure until the company gives official word.

As for what other consoles the game could come to, the PlayStation 3 seems like an apt pick. Its wand offers functionality similar to the Wii remote and it's due out before the game is set to hit. Natal is also a possibility, though it seems more based on full-body movement than pointer-like accuracy, so a game like Epic Mickey may not be ideal for it.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: pilonv1 on October 08, 2009, 02:45:07 AM
HOW ABOUT USING A CONTROLLER YOU DICKS
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 08, 2009, 02:45:30 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3176386

Quote
It seems like the revelation that Epic Mickey would be a Wii exclusive may have come too soon. Many have noted that while the Game Informer teaser page once claimed the game was "coming exclusively" for the Wii, all references to that exclusivity have been removed. Junction Point may be considering other options for the game, but we won't know for sure until the company gives official word.

As for what other consoles the game could come to, the PlayStation 3 seems like an apt pick. Its wand offers functionality similar to the Wii remote and it's due out before the game is set to hit. Natal is also a possibility, though it seems more based on full-body movement than pointer-like accuracy, so a game like Epic Mickey may not be ideal for it.

They took it down because people were bitching, not that it's not exclusive anymore.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 02:46:55 AM
they took it down because people where complaining that it's a wii exclusive? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 08, 2009, 02:55:33 AM
they took it down because people where complaining that it's a wii exclusive? that doesn't make any sense whatsoever

I'm very cynical about this. I expect the worst, because it has potential.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 08, 2009, 03:13:23 AM
I'll agree there is an honest difference between "damn I wish this came to my system" versus "oh it's coming to the shitty Wii".

No matter which way you slice it, 3 months for "well, it was fun while it lasted" is idiotic. I'm sure it's a cumulative ban of opportunity, but if others got similar bans for similar comments, it's dumbtarded.

But hey, it's nice to see that it's now welcomed due to speculation by 1up. Lulz.

HOW ABOUT USING A CONTROLLER YOU DICKS

Isn't it brush based? Doesn't seem like a regular controller is even an option.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 04:29:19 AM
OKAMI DID IT WITH A CONTROLLER!

and it was the superior version

i'm hoping this is at the most timed exclusive. not because i care all that much about playing it but because the lulz resulting from wiitards freaking out over losing an exclusive will be amazing
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: pilonv1 on October 08, 2009, 08:07:24 AM
Isn't it brush based? Doesn't seem like a regular controller is even an option.


See Okami. And there's nothing wrong with giving people options.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 08, 2009, 08:38:41 PM
so many tears.  :lol

it's just a platform folks, i don't see how this makes epic mickey any less interesting.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 08, 2009, 09:04:43 PM
so many tears.  :lol

it's just a platform folks, i don't see how this makes epic mickey any less interesting.

Would you want to play Uncharted on the Wii?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 08, 2009, 09:11:16 PM
so many tears.  :lol

it's just a platform folks, i don't see how this makes epic mickey any less interesting.

Would you want to play Uncharted on the Wii?

Would you want to compare Uncharted to Epic Mickey?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 08, 2009, 09:57:24 PM
Why not? High profile exclusives built with a specific platform in mind.

Before the gameplay was described, all we had was the concept art of awesome steampunk shit. Naturally a darker tone and more complex atmosphere lends to higher power machines.

Now that we know it's painting-based, along the lines of Super Mario Sunshine (A game I do honestly like), it seems more appropriate for the Wii.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 08, 2009, 10:47:16 PM
You don't understand, man.  Wii games NEVER control well. NEVER. ITS NOT POSSIBLE.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 10:50:23 PM
They don't, really. I say this as one of the huge Wii fans on this board, having played many games on it. Just read my reviews I posted on here.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 09, 2009, 02:10:50 AM
I know, right?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 15, 2009, 07:39:41 PM
crushed, where are the scans? you motherfucker i know you've seen them.  :maf
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: demi on October 15, 2009, 07:42:07 PM
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh107/blaze627/1255643306639.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh107/blaze627/1255643425586.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh107/blaze627/1255643532175.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh107/blaze627/1255643649116.jpg
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh107/blaze627/1255643730077.jpg

fucking noob... use the internet
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 15, 2009, 07:42:30 PM
i don't have asian powers. :bow demi

EDIT: looks weird, don't know if want. wait till the trailer, i guess.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 15, 2009, 07:43:29 PM
Looks like some Sega game
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: demi on October 15, 2009, 07:44:28 PM
Looks like shit
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 15, 2009, 07:44:48 PM
Looks like shit

Yeah, like some Sega game
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: demi on October 15, 2009, 07:45:09 PM
No way. Skies looks better than this.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 15, 2009, 07:49:02 PM
Looks like shit

Yeah, like some Sega game
:wtf
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 15, 2009, 07:54:36 PM
holy fuck. looks so bad. nothing like the concepts  :lol

nfags suiciding
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: cool breeze on October 15, 2009, 07:55:54 PM
Reminds me of CG from the PS1 days.  It's more odd than anything else. 
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 15, 2009, 07:57:30 PM
That's...

That's an embarassment. Wonderland in Kingdom Hearts 1 had more fucking polygons in the square fucking levels.

There's no steampunk, dark art, anything anywhere.

It's a down-syndrome Mickey Mouse running around an N64 game.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 07:59:54 PM
Looks pretty bad, but then again only two of those scans have any level shots.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Jansen on October 15, 2009, 08:01:15 PM
looks like some cheap shovelware psp game
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 15, 2009, 08:05:08 PM
Why is this game called epic again?

Lookst like the game takes place in a box.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 08:12:27 PM
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

Ugly
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: cool breeze on October 15, 2009, 08:22:50 PM
Why is this game called epic again?

Lookst like the game takes place in a box.

Is it even called Epic Mickey? Like, will that be on the box? I asked on gaf and didn't get a reply.  It sounds more like a concept than a game title.

 
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 15, 2009, 08:32:10 PM
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

Ugly
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/mickey.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: pilonv1 on October 15, 2009, 08:36:13 PM
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

Ugly

fucking hell

spector :-\
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 08:36:42 PM
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

Ugly
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/mickey.jpg)

Yeah, I was thinking a lazy eye treatment would be funny but I was too lazy.  Stealing yours.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 15, 2009, 08:43:52 PM
But you wouldn't want people think you APPROVED of the game, now would you?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 15, 2009, 08:47:26 PM
but d00ds what ab0ut t3h st34mpunkz m1ck3yz>???!!  this was sup0ss3d t0 justify my b3ing a 36 y34r 0ld m4n b4by!!! <_<;;;;;   

oh wellz guess i'll hug my minnie love pillow ^_________________________________________^;;;;;;;;;;
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 08:47:53 PM
I approve of the entertainment factor coming from butthurt internet dorks.  The game, not so much. 
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: pilonv1 on October 15, 2009, 08:48:20 PM
HOW ABOUT USING A CONTROLLER YOU DICKS

Isn't it brush based? Doesn't seem like a regular controller is even an option.


Scans dont show anything you couldn't do without a controller. I have been vindicated.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 15, 2009, 08:49:43 PM
HOW ABOUT USING A CONTROLLER YOU DICKS

Isn't it brush based? Doesn't seem like a regular controller is even an option.


Scans dont show anything you couldn't do without a controller. I have been vindicated.


Wasn't much of call, the same goes for just about all Wii games.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 08:50:27 PM
HOW ABOUT USING A CONTROLLER YOU DICKS

Isn't it brush based? Doesn't seem like a regular controller is even an option.


Scans dont show anything you couldn't do without a controller. I have been vindicated.

- use the Wiimote to paint in buildings, platforms and more
- swipe away enemies with the Wiimote when using paint thinner
- create/destroy the world as you go along


spoiler (click to show/hide)
I'm bored
[close]
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 15, 2009, 08:51:58 PM
HOW ABOUT USING A CONTROLLER YOU DICKS

Isn't it brush based? Doesn't seem like a regular controller is even an option.


Scans dont show anything you couldn't do without a controller. I have been vindicated.

- use the Wiimote to paint in buildings, platforms and more

okami

Quote

- swipe away enemies with the Wiimote when using paint thinner

nothing a button couldn't handle better

Quote
- create/destroy the world as you go along

wat, you're already running out of legit responses?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 15, 2009, 08:52:24 PM
Well, I'm going to Disneyland for my birthday next Tuesday, so I can't say much about being a manchild... >_> Or can I?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 15, 2009, 08:53:01 PM
Well, I'm going to Disneyland for my birthday next Tuesday, so I can't say much about being a manchild... >_> Or can I?

bring me back some funnel cake, man.....baby  :-*
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 08:54:58 PM
HOW ABOUT USING A CONTROLLER YOU DICKS

Isn't it brush based? Doesn't seem like a regular controller is even an option.


Scans dont show anything you couldn't do without a controller. I have been vindicated.

- use the Wiimote to paint in buildings, platforms and more

okami

Quote

- swipe away enemies with the Wiimote when using paint thinner

nothing a button couldn't handle better

Quote
- create/destroy the world as you go along

wat, you're already running out of legit responses?

I'm bored and was copy/pasting stuff.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 15, 2009, 08:56:46 PM
HOW ABOUT USING A CONTROLLER YOU DICKS

Isn't it brush based? Doesn't seem like a regular controller is even an option.


Scans dont show anything you couldn't do without a controller. I have been vindicated.

- use the Wiimote to paint in buildings, platforms and more

okami

Quote

- swipe away enemies with the Wiimote when using paint thinner

nothing a button couldn't handle better

Quote
- create/destroy the world as you go along

wat, you're already running out of legit responses?

I'm bored and was copy/pasting stuff.

copy/pasting can be done on iphone
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 08:57:20 PM
  ? ? ?
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_mickey.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: demi on October 15, 2009, 09:04:37 PM
I went to disney when I was in Orlando. Nothing ashamed about it. Place is badass.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 15, 2009, 09:08:18 PM
I actually love Disney. The movies are still awesome.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 15, 2009, 09:10:39 PM
Well, I'm going to Disneyland for my birthday next Tuesday, so I can't say much about being a manchild... >_> Or can I?
Well you are going for your kids' sake, right?
I have no kids.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Crushed on October 15, 2009, 09:25:06 PM
looks pretty good in some shots, but a lot of it's underwhelming

hopefully it'll look better in motion
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2009, 09:34:27 PM
The graphics are on par with early to mid 90's fmv

pathetic

(http://www.animefringe.com/magazine/2005/12/feature/finalfantasyvii18.jpg)

Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Crushed on October 15, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/1z5j5l5.jpg)
(http://i38.tinypic.com/f2mp77.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2rnakjn.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/xfsqkx.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/nxndzm.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/1om5pc.jpg)

"it looks like early 90s fmv!!!!"
-himuro, being wrong about literally everything ever
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Flannel Boy on October 15, 2009, 10:00:56 PM

"it looks like early 90s fmv!!!!"
-himuro, being wrong about literally everything ever

He was wrong: the 90s FMV looks better.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2009, 10:06:51 PM
Which looks better? 90's fmv or Epic Mickey?

(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5141/291146-abe_super.jpg)

(http://www.dylangreene.com/custom/image/blog1/ff8screen%5B1%5D.jpg)

On the other hand, the character models in Epic Mickey almost remind me of the shit in the original Panzer Dragoon.

[youtube=560,345]_-6dVdfIgEk[/youtube]

In fact, Panzer Dragoon opening fmv has better models. They actually have shading. :rofl
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2009, 10:09:18 PM
Compare the graphics in Epic Mickey to Reboot :rofl

(http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/reboot.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 15, 2009, 10:09:36 PM
duckman if u don't shut up i am going to turn into scorpion and throw a harpoon

:bow the Phantom Blot :bow2
:bow Floyd Gottfredson :bow2
:bow Anyone who knows who Gottfredson actually is :bow2
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 15, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
The Wii is so powerful that it absorbs Mickey's shadow.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2009, 10:14:30 PM
"it looks like early 90s fmv!!!!"
-himuro, being wrong about literally everything ever

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

vs

(http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/ffsgi.jpg)

Annihilated.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Bebpo on October 15, 2009, 10:16:30 PM
Looks worse than KH2 :\
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 15, 2009, 10:19:45 PM
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

Ugly

I almost thought I saw a weed plant in the background.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 15, 2009, 10:20:56 PM
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

vs

(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/218/faceso.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2009, 10:30:45 PM
(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

vs

(http://i36.tinypic.com/2wbxevn.jpg)

(http://i34.tinypic.com/5x1k6d.jpg)

(http://i35.tinypic.com/2vb68p3.jpg)

(http://i35.tinypic.com/28smxqo.jpg)

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2qnnxh1.jpg)

(http://i38.tinypic.com/1ep26p.jpg)

:bow playstation :bow2

:bow wii :bow2

Wii is amazing. It has brought games back to the glory era of games, the fucking PSX. :drake
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Crushed on October 15, 2009, 10:31:07 PM
"it looks like early 90s fmv!!!!"
-himuro, being wrong about literally everything ever

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

vs

(http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/ffsgi.jpg)

Annihilated.

wow an awkward shot of mickey crouching that still literally looks better than anything you've posted because it's not ugly nurb shit, good jon himu


*posts a bunch of psx and n64 games for no reason*
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Trent Dole on October 15, 2009, 10:31:21 PM
Meh
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 15, 2009, 10:31:49 PM
WOW

SO DARK



and mature!  

steampunk, brahs!


himunihilation is epic!  

Minnie dies!
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2009, 10:35:40 PM
"it looks like early 90s fmv!!!!"
-himuro, being wrong about literally everything ever

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

vs

(http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/ffsgi.jpg)

Annihilated.

wow an awkward shot of mickey crouching that still literally looks better than anything you've posted because it's not ugly nurb shit, good jon himu


*posts a bunch of psx and n64 games for no reason*

mickey has as much shading and shadows as they do. Probably more, but not much. You can say it's an awkward shot, but it still doesn't take away from the fact it looks absolutely disgusting for a game made on the most popular console out right now that's not the ps2, 2010. The complete lack of shading and shadows really put it on par with that FF6 N64 shot.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
WOW

SO DARK



and mature!  

steampunk, brahs!

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)

(http://i36.tinypic.com/b6eogn.jpg)(http://i36.tinypic.com/b6eogn.jpg)(http://i36.tinypic.com/b6eogn.jpg)(http://i36.tinypic.com/b6eogn.jpg)(http://i36.tinypic.com/b6eogn.jpg)(http://i36.tinypic.com/b6eogn.jpg)

That's my trolling quota for the day, I'm going to bed.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 10:38:17 PM
The scans Crushed posted are better quality.  It looks more like they dumped the steampunk grotesque stuff and went with a more

WAIT FOR IT
...
...

whimsical dark approach.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Crushed on October 15, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
mickey has as much shading and shadows as they do. Probably more, but not much. You can say it's an awkward shot, but it still doesn't take away from the fact it looks absolutely disgusting for a game made on the most popular console out right now that's not the ps2, 2010. The complete lack of shading and shadows really put it on par with that FF6 N64 shot.

no
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 10:42:35 PM
I also can't think of a single good looking wii 3d game that had good pr screenshots.  Maybe brawl.  Corruption screen grabs looked like a hot mess until its on your system running.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 15, 2009, 10:43:31 PM
 :hehe
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 15, 2009, 10:46:22 PM
 :borys

himu = borys

epic mickey/EB wilde nintendo fan boys = wedding dress 


Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Bebpo on October 15, 2009, 11:40:02 PM
I also can't think of a single good looking wii 3d game that had good pr screenshots.  Maybe brawl.  Corruption screen grabs looked like a hot mess until its on your system running.

Outside of Mario & Brawl...yeah.  I like the Wii but the games look pretty assy.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 15, 2009, 11:53:25 PM
Hey now, my self esteem is tied directly to my little box of circuits and screws over here, bebpo.  Don't hurt our feelings.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 16, 2009, 02:50:53 AM
Wow himu you're being especially dumb tonight
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: brawndolicious on October 16, 2009, 03:06:30 AM
You guys do know all of these screenshots are from the same level right?  It kinda actually looks like it might be the same area with the camera turned a few degrees.

My bet is that this game, which has undeniably great concept art to live up to, might not have many areas ready for screenshots yet.  Considering it has at least a year to go, that's actually pretty believable.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: ManaByte on October 16, 2009, 03:23:32 AM
Making Oswald the villian is just proof of Spector's brilliance.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 16, 2009, 03:26:47 AM
God how long has he been working on this?

The last game that was 100% Warren's was on the same grade of hardware  so I guess little has changed :-*

2001 PC = Gamecube = Wii
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 16, 2009, 06:13:29 AM
Pretty sure I read somewhere he was approached in 2007.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: dark1x on October 16, 2009, 09:01:33 AM
God how long has he been working on this?

The last game that was 100% Warren's was on the same grade of hardware  so I guess little has changed :-*

2001 PC = Gamecube = Wii
Deus Ex was 2000.   :D

I remember playing that at release and not quite having enough memory to really allow for a smooth experience at all times.  Whenever an explosion would trigger the game would seize up for a second before returning to normal.  I always used to think "man, those explosions must be so awesome", but when I played the game a couple years later on a faster machine, I was disappointed to find that, no, they were not actually awesome.  I'm so glad stuttering is nearly a thing of the past.  The last game I remember really suffering from it was the original 2004 release of Half-Life 2 on PCs of that day and age.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Crushed on October 16, 2009, 09:05:44 AM
Making Oswald the villian is just proof of Spector's brilliance.

Oswald's not actually the real villain, apparently. The Phantom Blot took over the world of forgotten Disney characters after Mickey accidentally ruined it, and Oswald is in exile and seemingly hates Mickey for destroying his world and having the glamorous life that Oswald was deprived of. So he and his wife are trying to survive in this "Wasteland" and Oswald has gone kinda insane, trying to recreate Mickey's life for himself with Oswald-themed stuff and robotic versions of Mickey's friends to be his own.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2009, 09:08:02 AM
Making Oswald the villian is just proof of Spector's brilliance.

Oswald's not actually the real villain, apparently. The Phantom Blot took over the world of forgotten Disney characters after Mickey accidentally ruined it, and Oswald is in exile and seemingly hates Mickey for destroying his world and having the glamorous life that Oswald was deprived of. So he and his wife are trying to survive in this "Wasteland" and Oswald has gone kinda insane, trying to recreate Mickey's life for himself with Oswald-themed stuff and robotic versions of Mickey's friends to be his own.

Grown men are going to buy this game.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Jansen on October 16, 2009, 09:17:24 AM
there are early ps2 games that look better than this shit. still i wouldn't be totally down on the game if they tried to make it more like the concept art but since they apparently aren't i'll just continue hating on epic mickey.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: dark1x on October 16, 2009, 09:44:19 AM
I'll hold off on dissing the game's graphics any further until I see it motion. We knew it's gonna be a Wii game so it'd be stupid to expect something technologically groundbreaking. I guess the concept art just threw me off, they were amazing. What I'm seeing in the released screens, however, cannot be farther from what I was expecting stylistically. The only thing "dark" about it is the color palette.
Pretty much.  The concept art was beautiful and haunting, but these shots look nothing like the artwork.  Basically looks like Kingdom Hearts to me.
Title: Mickey can transform into Spyro and a leopard
Post by: Flannel Boy on October 16, 2009, 09:45:12 AM
(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/920502_20040902_790screen021.jpg)

(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/920502_20041101_790screen004.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2009, 09:48:49 AM
duckman if u don't shut up i am going to turn into scorpion and throw a harpoon

:bow the Phantom Blot :bow2
:bow Floyd Gottfredson :bow2
:bow Anyone who knows who Gottfredson actually is :bow2


:bow me :bow2

i think it looks pretty damned cool, actually

i wish someone would take the looney tunes characters back to their vaguely nihilistic personalities
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 16, 2009, 09:50:27 AM
also i don't think any of you weeaboos need to be snarking about what games grown men buy
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: dark1x on October 16, 2009, 10:35:25 AM
God how long has he been working on this?

The last game that was 100% Warren's was on the same grade of hardware  so I guess little has changed :-*

2001 PC = Gamecube = Wii
Deus Ex was 2000.   :D

I remember playing that at release and not quite having enough memory to really allow for a smooth experience at all times.  Whenever an explosion would trigger the game would seize up for a second before returning to normal.  I always used to think "man, those explosions must be so awesome", but when I played the game a couple years later on a faster machine, I was disappointed to find that, no, they were not actually awesome.  I'm so glad stuttering is nearly a thing of the past.  The last game I remember really suffering from it was the original 2004 release of Half-Life 2 on PCs of that day and age.

The stuttering might as well be a thing of the past because the last taxing PC game was Crysis back in 2007.
Shame it's still not possible to enjoy Crysis at 1080p/60fps/DX10/Very High.  :\
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 16, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
Making Oswald the villian is just proof of Spector's brilliance.

Oswald's not actually the real villain, apparently. The Phantom Blot took over the world of forgotten Disney characters after Mickey accidentally ruined it, and Oswald is in exile and seemingly hates Mickey for destroying his world and having the glamorous life that Oswald was deprived of. So he and his wife are trying to survive in this "Wasteland" and Oswald has gone kinda insane, trying to recreate Mickey's life for himself with Oswald-themed stuff and robotic versions of Mickey's friends to be his own.

awesome, this is the dark and mature disney title I've been clamoring for in my parent's basement throughout my 20s. 
Title: Re: Mickey can transform into Spyro and a leopard
Post by: Himu on October 16, 2009, 11:59:25 AM
(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/920502_20040902_790screen021.jpg)

(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2004/screen0/920502_20041101_790screen004.jpg)

:lol

(http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20060804/jakanddaxter01.jpg)

This came out in 2001 btw
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 16, 2009, 12:28:30 PM
Quote
The complete lack of shading and shadows really put it on par with that FF6 N64 shot.

That is not an N64 shot, that demo ran only on Silicon Graphics workstations.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Brehvolution on October 16, 2009, 02:57:37 PM
In game pics remind me of the smurfs game on the Colecovision.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 16, 2009, 03:32:46 PM
I love Kingdom Hearts and even I can tell you this game will be a better representation of the Disney worlds and characters.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: dark1x on October 16, 2009, 04:16:41 PM
Quote
This came out in 2001 btw
...and ran at a rock solid 60 fps (which I doubt we'll see with this Mickey game).
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 16, 2009, 04:29:29 PM
Total failure  :lol

Bu-bu-bu waggle!
(never revelant)

Bu-bu-bu Spector!
(irrevelant since Deus Ex: Invisible War)

Bu-bu-bu Disney!
(there's Kingdom Hearts)
kingdom hearts is shit and you know it.

 :lol at people comparing this to a 2001 game
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: archie4208 on October 16, 2009, 04:40:47 PM
The graphics look mediocre, but the gameplay tidbits sound pretty good. 
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 16, 2009, 05:50:22 PM
There'll be hell to pay if Kingdom Hearts is on the Wii, but seeing how assy it is on the DS, but nice on the PSP, I'm not too worried.
<3 Kingdom Hearts, even if the first one was a bit clunky.
I like how it wasn't ALL Disney everywhere, all the time.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 16, 2009, 06:16:05 PM
I love Kingdom Hearts and even I can tell you this game will be a better representation of the Disney worlds and characters.

(http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/EmCeeGramr/th_Untitled.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 16, 2009, 06:34:51 PM
even though i hate the kh series, i want it to come to the wii solely for the meltdowns. :drake
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 16, 2009, 07:11:47 PM
even though i hate the kh series, i want it to come to the wii solely for the meltdowns. :drake

Even the thought of KH3 being Wii exclusive melts my brains.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: ManaByte on October 16, 2009, 07:18:52 PM
Why? It's not like it'll look any worse than the first three games.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 16, 2009, 07:28:32 PM
Why? It's not like it'll look any worse than the first three games.

The last main KH game was released in 2005. I want progression. Something nfags don't seem to care about.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: ManaByte on October 16, 2009, 07:34:18 PM
Why? It's not like it'll look any worse than the first three games.

The last main KH game was released in 2005. I want progression. Something nfags don't seem to care about.

I really don't see how PS3 HD graphics will benefit a game like KH where half the game is based on cartoons.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 16, 2009, 07:46:21 PM
I really don't see how PS3 HD graphics will benefit a game like KH where half the game is based on cartoons.

Well, there you said it - half
So you don't care how the other half looks? I want a KH3 on HD consoles because I want the best experience possible. Better graphics, better sound, better animation, better controls, etc.. better everything.

Wii controls have proven to be shitty and non-relevant. So no Wii version please.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 16, 2009, 11:11:33 PM
Why? It's not like it'll look any worse than the first three games.

The last main KH game was released in 2005. I want progression. Something nfags don't seem to care about.

I really don't see how PS3 HD graphics will benefit a game like KH where half the game is based on cartoons.

(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/kingdom-hearts-2-meets-jack-sparrow.jpg)
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/M3wThr33/kingdom-hearts-ii-tron.jpg)

I want it more awesome.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 17, 2009, 01:58:12 AM
I really can't take the opinion of Kingdom Hearts fans seriously.  I love fanwankery as much as the next manchild, but the series is a giant frustrating chore with an unintelligible storyline.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 17, 2009, 02:09:00 AM
play it for the reaction commands yo
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 17, 2009, 02:13:54 AM
Cinematic qtes are the worst invention ever.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 17, 2009, 02:40:58 AM
Eh, depends on the game.  KH's were a little too game-breaking, but it was still really fun if you threw it in with your combos.  I just play the games for the combat and synthesis.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
and the Disney
[close]
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 17, 2009, 03:02:05 AM
Cinematic qtes are the worst invention ever.
God of War did it right.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 17, 2009, 04:06:35 AM
No game does them right because its mindless.  I guess you could technically say some rhythm games have cool shit happen when you hit the correct sequence of buttons but as you can see I'm reaching.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 17, 2009, 04:35:13 AM
Who here that you're calling an nfag is downplaying Kingdom Hearts?  I'm a self-admitted cigarillo for those games, all I'm saying is those games don't portray some of the Disney worlds as well as I think they could be.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 17, 2009, 04:55:54 AM
So nfags are now downplaying KH?

Didn't you beg for KH3 for Wii for like forever?

:lol

Oh hell no.  Pretentious nomura pap needs to stay where it is.  However, the meltdowns would be entertaining.  I'm weird.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: cool breeze on October 17, 2009, 11:39:33 AM
Naw.  EmCeeGrammar is probably the oddest Nintendo fan I've seen between here and gaf.  It's a good thing.  He's like the real deal while others just pretend because it's on a Nintendo platform.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 28, 2009, 03:56:59 PM
(http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/6/6/lg/725.jpg)

PARTY TIEM

(http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/6/6/lg/729.jpg)

IT'S PARTY TIEM

[youtube=560,345]BxHNztg0X3s[/youtube]
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Third on October 28, 2009, 04:15:21 PM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2h2egpu.jpg)

:rofl
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 28, 2009, 04:33:14 PM
So
Quote
Epic Mickey was originally for 360/PS3

Spector told ONM: "The reality is that we started Wii development in 2008, but before that we were a PC, PS3, and 360 title."

"It's burned in my brain - Graham Hopper [Disney Interactive boss] pulled me into my office one day and said 'What does it take to deliver on the goals we have for this product? And I said, well, you need enough time and enough money to be competitive. And it'd be awfully nice if we could focus on one platform."

"At that time we were talking about a Wii port and I was begging people - no, we can't just port to the Wii, it's not going to work. It needs to be its own game. A lot of the design ideas just won't work on the Wii, we need to give the Wii its dues. Graham looked at me and said 'What do you think about a Wii exclusive?' And I went 'Holy cow - yeah!'"

God damn it. So that's what the concept art was for then.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2009, 04:37:34 PM
i don't see what's so funny, that's how mickey mouse looked back in the early days

i guess you can rag on the game itself all you want, but you can't really rag on the character design, that's straight from the source
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 28, 2009, 04:42:57 PM
Wii has made the world so crazy that some dudes are in all seriousness pointing to old and new screens of the Conduit and saying "look guys, graphics can improve a lot over a year!"
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Flannel Boy on October 28, 2009, 04:45:24 PM
It's amazing how much worse this looks than Star Fox Adventures, a game released seven years ago on less powerful system.

(http://cubemedia.ign.com/media/previews/image/starfoxa/fur1_640w.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 28, 2009, 04:47:14 PM
(http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/6/6/lg/725.jpg)

PARTY TIEM

(http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/6/6/lg/729.jpg)


The graphics look just like Rayman 2 on the Dreamcast

(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/5/250615/rayman2_screen012.jpg)(http://www.videogamecritic.net/images/dc/rayman_2__the_great_escape.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 28, 2009, 04:48:56 PM
That last shot actually reminds me of one of the lair environments in the Banjo XBLA remake.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2009, 04:49:43 PM
how far away from release is this game, anyway
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 28, 2009, 04:50:18 PM
Spring 2010
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Great Rumbler on October 28, 2009, 04:50:32 PM
(http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/6/6/lg/725.jpg)

(http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/6/6/lg/729.jpg)

Wow! It looks exactly like Playstation-era CG!
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: brawndolicious on October 28, 2009, 05:17:14 PM
Spring 2010
Wiki puts the release date at october actually.

I highly doubt that Warren Specter would have gotten excited over wii exclusivity if he wasn't going to deliver anything that looked like the concept art.

(http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/103/1039946/epic-mickey-20091028105942270.jpg)

I mean, this screen looks good to me.  Like any game that goes toon-shaded, the game can look great in motion but when you try to look at close up screens of the character models, it looks like butthole.  yup.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2009, 05:38:48 PM
what the hell

are they just trolling the Wii?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 28, 2009, 05:39:23 PM
It looks like Spongebob Squarepants: Battle for Bikini Bottom on the Gamecube.

smh @ Wii

(http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/article/727/727969/spongebob-squarepants-creature-from-the-krusty-krab-20060824004612299_640w.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 28, 2009, 05:44:10 PM
Today is supposed to be the unveiling. Is a trailer expecting too much?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Crushed on October 28, 2009, 05:48:27 PM
alright i admit the graphics are poopy


still, spector :bow2
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 28, 2009, 06:11:29 PM
alright i admit the graphics are poopy


still, spector :bow2

Again, the last time Spector was all "Holy cow - yeah" about developing for a shittier, more popular platform, we got unified ammo, shit performance and limited environments.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Crushed on October 28, 2009, 06:29:40 PM
alright i admit the graphics are poopy


still, spector :bow2

Again, the last time Spector was all "Holy cow - yeah" about developing for a shittier, more popular platform, we got unified ammo, shit performance and limited environments.


And yet even then it was still an entertaining game.

:bow Warren :bow2
:bow haters being annihilated yet again by superior wii gameplay :bow2
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Himu on October 28, 2009, 06:35:09 PM
Wow! It looks exactly like Playstation-era CG!

 :lol
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 28, 2009, 06:35:39 PM
Until actual gameplay and moving video is shown I'll never understand the fixation on either side about this game. But then I feel that way about every game. As usual something more is going on that goes beyond whether a game will be good or not.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Bildi on October 28, 2009, 06:35:47 PM
The graphics look just like Rayman 2 on the Dreamcast

It isn't really fair to compare Mickey to the best platformer of all time. :bow

God Mickey looks shitty.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 28, 2009, 06:41:33 PM
I've been avoiding this thread, didn't even know pics were out.

Boy does that look like shit. This is exactly what all the HD fans were afraid of.

Why? It's not like it'll look any worse than the first three games.

The last main KH game was released in 2005. I want progression. Something nfags don't seem to care about.

I really don't see how PS3 HD graphics will benefit a game like KH where half the game is based on cartoons.

Does Blue Dragon look the same as Dragon Quest VIII?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 28, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
The graphics look just like Rayman 2 on the Dreamcast

It isn't really fair to compare Mickey to the best platformer of all time. :bow

God Mickey looks shitty.

:bow Rayman 2 :bow2

I just made the comparison because some of the texture work looks exactly the same.

Although I can agree with duckman2000 that it looks like a sub HD port of Banjo Kazooie XBLA.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: twerd on October 28, 2009, 07:39:12 PM
the mickey animation looks awesome, hopefully that fluidity carries throughout the whole game. my disappointment lies with the awesome scale and dark steampunk artwork we saw when it was teased, versus the pretty small platforming elements we've seen so far. hopefully there's a lot behind closed doors we're missing. the wii could run an awesome game, GoW2 and shadow of the collossus had an amazing sense of scale despite running on archaic hardware.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 28, 2009, 07:57:51 PM
"dark steampunk" 

CMON TWERD don't be that guy. 
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: ManaByte on October 28, 2009, 08:40:36 PM
This is the DIABLO III MUST BE DARK AND ANGSTY bitchfest of 2009.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: duckman2000 on October 28, 2009, 08:41:58 PM
This is the DIABLO III MUST BE DARK AND ANGSTY bitchfest of 2009.

Diablo III isn't bug ugly, though.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: Crushed on October 28, 2009, 09:10:49 PM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/6tg4qw.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/25su1zt.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/1126ii8.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2mmdaih.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2rw6vyf.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/xlxocp.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/24zaluw.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2chrlmh.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/iz47bq.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/jzxhlk.jpg)

wow. just wow. the gameplay opportunities. aa wrong about everything yet again? seems so...
Title: Re: Epic Mickey game becomes completely uninteresting
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 28, 2009, 09:54:34 PM
The dragon blimp carrying the steamboat willie is upside down in one of those pics.  Maybe the level got flipped?
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Post by: Third on October 28, 2009, 10:07:10 PM
The screens Crushed posted look pretty good.
I want to see the video.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 28, 2009, 10:08:40 PM
The screens Crushed posted look pretty good.

LULZ
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 28, 2009, 10:12:45 PM
What gameplay possiblities? Looks like he's gonna be running around wacking guys like every other D-grade mascot platformer.

Wait, there's a 2D section with at least three flat platforms on screen, and a whatsit to nab. :drool

Oh shit I found a preview demo (http://ww5.freearcade.com/Superm.jav/Superm.html)
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Post by: Sho Nuff on October 28, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
Quote
"At that time we were talking about a Wii port and I was begging people - no, we can't just port to the Wii, it's not going to work. It needs to be its own game. A lot of the design ideas just won't work on the Wii, we need to give the Wii its dues. Graham looked at me and said 'What do you think about a Wii exclusive?' And I went 'Holy cow - yeah!'"

WARREN. WARREN. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARREN!
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Post by: Don Flamenco on October 28, 2009, 10:30:49 PM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/6tg4qw.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/25su1zt.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/1126ii8.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2mmdaih.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2rw6vyf.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/xlxocp.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/24zaluw.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2chrlmh.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/iz47bq.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/jzxhlk.jpg)

wow. just wow. the gameplay opportunities. aa wrong about everything yet again? seems so...


OMG THIS IS ART. 
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Post by: Barry Egan on October 28, 2009, 10:38:13 PM
The screens Crushed posted look pretty good.

LULZ

...comparatively anyway...
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 28, 2009, 11:04:01 PM
Quote
"At that time we were talking about a Wii port and I was begging people - no, we can't just port to the Wii, it's not going to work. It needs to be its own game. A lot of the design ideas just won't work on the Wii, we need to give the Wii its dues. Graham looked at me and said 'What do you think about a Wii exclusive?' And I went 'Holy cow - yeah!'"

WARREN. WARREN. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARREN!

You didn't give these enough press.

http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=12784

ORIGINALLY on PC/PS3/360 before they made it exclusive to add waggle.

THAT is why the original concept art was so awesome. It was made for awesome consoles.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 28, 2009, 11:09:50 PM
Those screens Crushed posted look pretty decent.

When I reWii, if the gameplay is good, I'm sold.
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Post by: Crushed on October 28, 2009, 11:10:27 PM
What gameplay possiblities? Looks like he's gonna be running around wacking guys like every other D-grade mascot platformer.

Actually the game is supposed to revolve around changing the world, choosing different styles of platforming paths, and talking to NPCs.  ???
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Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2009, 11:37:06 PM
Bullshots look better than poor screen shots.  The world stands still.

The gameplay ideas sound kinda neat, though.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 28, 2009, 11:45:49 PM
What gameplay possiblities? Looks like he's gonna be running around wacking guys like every other D-grade mascot platformer.

Actually the game is supposed to revolve around changing the world, choosing different styles of platforming paths, and talking to NPCs.  ???

None of this is apparent in the pictures you were referring to.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on October 28, 2009, 11:57:01 PM
What gameplay possiblities? Looks like he's gonna be running around wacking guys like every other D-grade mascot platformer.

Actually the game is supposed to revolve around changing the world, choosing different styles of platforming paths, and talking to NPCs.  ???


Buuuuuuuut it's a mickey mouse game and won't be aimed at the intelligent human demographic, so it probably won't fully flesh out these ideas. 

and that's not meant to be snarky, just comes from years of seeing games in previews, getting excited, then finding out their mechanics were not half as cool as they originally sounded. 
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 28, 2009, 11:59:14 PM
Then again, I'm vehemently against the game, and if my track record is any indication it might just turn out to be great.
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Post by: BlackMage on October 28, 2009, 11:59:55 PM
this game looks like shit.. oh its wii.. carry on
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 29, 2009, 12:02:40 AM
:piss Wii :piss2

As for the painting thing, as someone who spent two excruciating years doing heavy compositing work on a cruddy 15" monitor at dumb resolutions, it's hard to believe that brush gameplay won't be a bitch in SD. Either that, or it's just very imprecise and/or automatic.
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Post by: BlackMage on October 29, 2009, 12:05:01 AM
seriously is wii just completely incapable of doing textures or what
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 29, 2009, 12:10:33 AM
seriously is wii just completely incapable of doing textures or what
They're still hiring and I know they're looking for a texture programmer, specifically. I laughed when I heard that yesterday.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 29, 2009, 12:14:21 AM
Games can certainly look great without high detail textures, but this one just looks unbalanced and poorly composed all around. It has a bit of that "what, we're supposed to have art directors on staff?" that Rare games are famous for, but with fucked balance and composition instead of clutter. Maybe this environment is an isolated case, but it's odd that they would then use that environment to showcase the game.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 29, 2009, 12:42:47 AM
It's the Wii.  Why bother trying?

The insane demand for almost three year old unambitious titles like Wii Play show that the demographics don't give much of a shit about graphics.  It just needs to look functional and resemble somewhat what the designers were aiming for.  As long as Mickey looks like Mickey, soccer moms will have little hesitation buying it for their eight year old son.
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Post by: Oblivion on October 29, 2009, 12:46:14 AM
There's something very amusing about certain EB denizens being disappointed that their highly anticipated mascot platformer won't be as 'dark' as they hoped, now that it's on the Wii.
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Post by: Sho Nuff on October 29, 2009, 01:16:27 AM
seriously is wii just completely incapable of doing textures or what
They're still hiring and I know they're looking for a texture programmer, specifically. I laughed when I heard that yesterday.

There are only so many ways you can make a diffuse texture  :lol
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 29, 2009, 02:43:51 AM
There's something very amusing about certain EB denizens being disappointed that their highly anticipated mascot platformer won't be as 'dark' as they hoped, now that it's on the Wii.

Well, right now it looks a bit like things were changed precisely because of a change in platform. So yeah, fuck Wii, for it is shit.
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Post by: M3wThr33 on October 29, 2009, 02:55:42 AM
but it's odd that they would then use that environment to showcase the game.
That's my biggest concern. It's as if what they're showing off when it sounds like they restarted development for the Wii and really are sucking at optimizing for it.
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Post by: Jansen on October 29, 2009, 02:57:05 AM
not even the bullshots crushed posted look very good.

shame that such an acclaimed person like warren can't make a wii game that's up to snuff graphically with many ps2 games.
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Post by: brawndolicious on October 29, 2009, 05:15:42 AM
I'm guessing that they didn't show the best-looking level in those screens, just the one that was the most finished.  I'm prepared to eat crows if wrong though.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 29, 2009, 10:49:01 AM
I doubt that is how the conversation went but it is good to be positive!
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Post by: chronovore on October 29, 2009, 11:51:17 AM
Who knows, it could work out great. I remember at GDC a few years back, before the Tomb Raider license was given to Crystal Dynamics, Warren mouthing off (politely) at a panel on licensed IP that he'd drool over a chance to work on a license, like maybe Tomb Raider. He claimed there is so much opportunity to work within any licensed IP's ruleset, and to turn out something of quality.

This is his chance to prove that point, I'm very hopeful that he wasn't just blowing massive steam.