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Title: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Akala on October 06, 2009, 10:22:43 AM: spoiler (click to show/hide)
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didn't even click the 1UP link lol. good show by Parish.
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http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3176349

(http://i34.tinypic.com/25utfk5.jpg)

Not a huge fan (a bit too small), but around what I expected from a DL game.

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Konami has announced that classic platformer Rocket Knight Adventures is to make a comeback.

Sparkster will return in a 2.5D platformer for XBLA, PSN and Steam. As reported by 1UP, it's being developed by Climax and is due for a release in 2010.

The game will be set 15 years after the last RKA game, which was made in 1994. Sparkster's gear will be better than ever - his rocket pack will let him zoom around finding hidden areas, for example. He can pull off melee attacks with his sword, and also fire energy balls and beams. Now he can deflect missiles back towards enemies, too.

There are various paths through levels to choose from and a fair few side-scrolling shooter sections. Arcade mode is designed to appeal to hardcore fans who want a real challenge, as you won't be able to save your game. There will be Achievements and leaderboards too. Free Play mode is designed to be more accessible and lets you save your progress and skip between levels.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/rocket-knight-adventures-to-return

Sure it's a bit iffy, but should be hard to totally screw up! HYPE :hyper
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Cravis on October 06, 2009, 10:47:24 AM: I don't like the visuals. I'll remain optimistic. I love Rocket Knight Adventures and Sparkster.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 06, 2009, 10:53:15 AM: :o
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Post by: tiesto on October 06, 2009, 10:54:16 AM: Holy shit! Never thought I'd see a new Rocket Knight game! I hope this comes out decent...
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Post by: Bebpo on October 06, 2009, 11:41:07 AM: Looks incredible. If it plays well it could be awesome. Looks like Klonoa in HDDDDD
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 06, 2009, 12:18:27 PM: :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper

I'm so busting out my Genesis and Rocket Knight Adventures later today like a desperate segafag.
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Akala on October 06, 2009, 12:32:33 PM: Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on October 06, 2009, 12:18:27 PM
:hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper

I'm so busting out my Genesis and Rocket Knight Adventures later today like a desperate segafag.

:lol

I busted out the nomad a little while ago. It makes me a bit wary of how zoomed out the camera is, but I guess it can always be dynamic. Hopefullt the 'enhanced' rocket powers are handled well.
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Akala on October 06, 2009, 12:59:12 PM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 06, 2009, 12:52:28 PM
Climax UK? :lol

Enjoy your crap sandwich, guys.

you were defending EPIC MICKEY.
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: jiji on October 06, 2009, 01:06:10 PM: I realize these shots are from a single level, but I don't like the look at all. Somebody got their Donkey Kong Country in my Rocket Knight. It looks like just another misguided revival, and the choice of developer doesn't help matters.
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Post by: Himu on October 06, 2009, 01:36:22 PM: I was like "bullshit" when I saw the thread title.

Then I was all :omg
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 01:40:48 PM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 06, 2009, 01:39:43 PM
Also, Warren Spector has made a good game.

He's also made a pretty bad one, and it was bad for very Wii reasons.
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Himu on October 06, 2009, 01:40:49 PM: Why is everyone reviving old franchises that have been dead for GENERATIONS?

???

I mean, Earthworm Jim I can understand. But Rocket Knight and Daytona? This is like, asking for a pony for Christmas and actually getting one, considering how long the fans of these games have gone without new entries. This is especially really awesome to me because Rocket Knight adventures is what I consider the gold standard for action platformers and Daytona the gold standard for racing games. So it's like winning the lotto...or something. I wouldn't know because I've never bought a lottery ticket.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 06, 2009, 01:46:16 PM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 06, 2009, 01:43:45 PM
And to clarify, IW was bad for very "console" reasons, you've just narrowed it to fit your vendetta.

True. But the argument is, remarkably, still spot on.
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: demi on October 06, 2009, 01:49:37 PM: this series or whatever was never good in the first place. there are better choices for a revival...
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Post by: Himu on October 06, 2009, 01:50:13 PM: demi, i just can't find you attractive after saying that
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 06, 2009, 01:51:59 PM: Lizzie McGuire 3: Homecoming Havoc was fucking awesome.
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Akala on October 06, 2009, 02:22:25 PM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 06, 2009, 01:39:43 PM
Quote from: Akala on October 06, 2009, 12:59:12 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 06, 2009, 12:52:28 PM
Climax UK? :lol

Enjoy your crap sandwich, guys.

you were defending EPIC MICKEY.

I was saying it wasn't appropriate to judge Epic Mickey without even seeing a single screenshot. Also, Warren Spector has made a good game.

Here, we have screenshots, and they look like shit, and hey, let's look at every platformer Climax UK has made:

Lilo & Stitch 2: Hamsterviel Havoc
Lizzie McGuire 3: Homecoming Havoc
Disney's The Wild
W.I.T.C.H.

Have you played those games? I have. They are fucking awful. There is no reason to expect Climax can make a competent 2D platformer.

the screens will look awful. defending epic mickey is worse than defending lilo and stitch 2: hamstervial havoc.

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climax alone gives me little hope, but the 1up writeup gave me a bit. DON'T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME
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Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 06, 2009, 03:01:12 PM: Quote from: Akala on October 06, 2009, 12:32:33 PM
Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on October 06, 2009, 12:18:27 PM
:hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper

I'm so busting out my Genesis and Rocket Knight Adventures later today like a desperate segafag.

:lol

I busted out the nomad a little while ago. It makes me a bit wary of how zoomed out the camera is, but I guess it can always be dynamic. Hopefullt the 'enhanced' rocket powers are handled well.

I think it looks pretty crappy in terms of presentation, but if it plays similar I'll be happy.
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Bebpo on October 06, 2009, 07:16:23 PM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 06, 2009, 12:52:28 PM
Climax UK? :lol

Enjoy your crap sandwich, guys.

Climax UK? As in the guys who took the piece of shit Silent Hill psp that Climax USA had made and turned it into an excellent game? I realize the bulk of that team is working on Silent Hill Wii, but still, Climax UK is not :lol worthy.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 06, 2009, 07:30:05 PM: [youtube=560,345]dNb9_JuHjAk[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]4jYFekmLdUs[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]G-r192XtmfY[/youtube]
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Beezy on October 06, 2009, 07:41:28 PM: :o

Don't like the art style though. We'll see how it turns out. :(
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Post by: Don Flamenco on October 06, 2009, 07:46:54 PM: More leik Blur Bluright Blurventures by Blurnami
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Post by: Akala on October 07, 2009, 12:07:49 AM: I couldn't even get past that fucking owl in Nights 2. :(
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Akala on October 07, 2009, 12:16:38 AM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 07, 2009, 12:08:54 AM
Quote from: Akala on October 07, 2009, 12:07:49 AM
I couldn't even get past that fucking owl in Nights 2. :(

You know, I can't think of even one instance where an owl in a video game was a good thing. Chatty fuckers.

good point.
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Post by: duckman2000 on October 07, 2009, 12:20:52 AM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 07, 2009, 12:03:35 AM
But hey, I was able to delude myself hard enough that I thought NiGHTS 2 was a decent game, if you guys wish hard enough, you can probably do the same here.

It took me quite a while to admit to myself that Haze was looking shit, so this is probably doable.
Title: Re: 2010 gets better and better (new Rocket Knight!)
Post by: Himu on October 07, 2009, 02:10:14 AM: Quote from: Groo on October 07, 2009, 02:06:32 AM
Quote from: Himuro on October 06, 2009, 01:40:49 PM
Why is everyone reviving old franchises that have been dead for GENERATIONS?

Says the guy who replays FFVIII on an annual basis.

You're damn straight. But what does that have to do with anything? I'm not saying it's BAD, I'm just CURIOUS. It strikes me as odd, because these franchises have been neglected for so long, that at this point they probably don't even have much of a fanbase.

So why now?
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Post by: cool breeze on October 07, 2009, 02:21:29 AM: They're probably cheap to make and with digital download services becoming popular the risk isn't as high.

Don't know about Boy and his Blob, but that's a retail game, and it has pretty incredible 2D animation. And I guess Punch Out, but that was more insurance that if/when Nintendo does fail, they want the core audience to know they've always looked out for them.

and the RKA was great (didn't even know there was a sequel; need to check that out) but this looks kinda bad.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 07, 2009, 06:45:36 AM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 06, 2009, 01:39:43 PM
Quote from: Akala on October 06, 2009, 12:59:12 PM
Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 06, 2009, 12:52:28 PM
Climax UK? :lol

Enjoy your crap sandwich, guys.

you were defending EPIC MICKEY.

I was saying it wasn't appropriate to judge Epic Mickey without even seeing a single screenshot. Also, Warren Spector has made a good game.

Here, we have screenshots, and they look like shit, and hey, let's look at every platformer Climax UK has made:

Lilo & Stitch 2: Hamsterviel Havoc
Lizzie McGuire 3: Homecoming Havoc
Disney's The Wild
W.I.T.C.H.

Have you played those games? I have. They are fucking awful. There is no reason to expect Climax can make a competent 2D platformer.

Why?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on October 07, 2009, 11:02:06 AM: I would literally KILL someone for a sequel to Mischief Makers.
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Post by: Cravis on October 07, 2009, 11:14:12 AM: Is this the same Climax that did Silent Hill Origins and the new Silent Hill on the Wii?
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 07, 2009, 11:32:50 AM: A good 60% of NiGHTs 2 is very enjoyable!
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Post by: Cravis on October 07, 2009, 12:03:48 PM: Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 07, 2009, 11:30:51 AM
Euuuuuurrrghhh kinda. Silent Hill Origins was started by Climax LA and finished by one of the UK Studios (Solent I think). Silent Hill Wii is by this branch of the tree, though.

Ah. I remember there was some difficulty in it's development where it got finished by a separate team. I didn't know if this was the one who started or finished it

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on October 07, 2009, 11:32:50 AM
A good 60% of NiGHTs 2 is very enjoyable!
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I agree but that's coming from someone who never played the original. I couldn't stand the wii mote controls so I played it with the Wavebird. I hated the unskippable cut scenes and really couldn't stand when you played as the children. It was amazing when you flew through the rings. The pinball stage was a great concept marred by a terrible camera.

It's one of those cases where there's a great game buried within the confines of a mediocre one.
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Post by: demi on October 07, 2009, 12:14:25 PM: Did Bebpo say Silent Hill Origins was good? SMH
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Post by: Cravis on October 07, 2009, 12:30:47 PM: I enjoyed Origins. It was short but you didn't feel as helpless. I know that's a big part of the earlier Silent Hills but I found being helpless bordered on being frustrating.

Konami needs to bring back Zombies Ate My Neighbors. Four player online would be godly in that. Although I'm not sure who holds the license. I remember Lucasarts developed it and Konami published it. Another one of their joint ventures, Metal Warriors, is in need of a 2D remake on XBLA and PSN.
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Post by: demi on October 07, 2009, 12:45:26 PM: It was crap because it was completely uninteresting. Nobody cares about some boneheaded trucker.
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Post by: Bebpo on October 07, 2009, 12:55:27 PM: wtf, it was a good SH game. Sure it's weaker than 1-4 story-wise, but it was Silent Hill through and through from the puzzles to the atmosphere to the story presentation. SH5 otoh....smh
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 10, 2010, 12:58:57 PM: Rise from your grave!!! and watch a new live demonstration video.

http://www.gamespot.com/events/konami10/video.html?sid=6257480 (http://www.gamespot.com/events/konami10/video.html?sid=6257480)

It's really starting to look pretty awesome.
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Post by: Beezy on April 10, 2010, 02:42:56 PM: Eh... doesn't really look like Rocket Knight, but it still looks good.
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Post by: Himu on April 10, 2010, 02:45:19 PM: This doesn't look like Rocket Knight Adventures. But I'll bite as it is the BEST ACTION PLATFORMER EVER.
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Post by: Himu on April 10, 2010, 02:52:20 PM: I think the base problem here is the speed. RKA is an action platformer emphasizing a perfect balance between action and platforming.

So the action is quick. In contrast, this game is fucking slow as molasses.

I guess the shooter stage KINDA looks like the shooting stage in RKA, but it looks completely boring.

Let's compare:

[youtube=560,345]I30Zqtrl9S4[/youtube]

Will probably be a decent game, but it's like they completely forgot the appeal of RKA, which is fast-paced action and platforming melded together to form one delicious package. Maybe the later levels are more upbeat?
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Post by: Beezy on April 10, 2010, 03:02:02 PM: The art style looks like shit compared to the old version too. 3D :-\
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Post by: Himu on April 10, 2010, 03:04:21 PM: Totally.
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Post by: Ichirou on April 10, 2010, 08:21:09 PM: Was interested until I saw who was developing. It's going to be crap.
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Post by: Positive Touch on April 11, 2010, 11:06:46 AM: "we want to make it accessable to gamers of all skill levels." in other words, the game'll be piss easy. ugh i could beat these old platformers back when i was like eight; why do they always act like kids nowadays need absolutely no challenge?
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Post by: Great Rumbler on April 11, 2010, 11:46:12 AM: Quote from: Positive Touch on April 11, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
"we want to make it accessable to gamers of all skill levels." in other words, the game'll be piss easy. ugh i could beat these old platformers back when i was like eight; why do they always act like kids nowadays need absolutely no challenge?

Yeah, I don't get that either. Games like Super Mario Bros., Sonic the Hedgehog, and the original Rocket Knight games were all fairly tough, but it's not like kids back then were struggling to make it past the first level or anything.
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Post by: Bebpo on April 11, 2010, 05:58:18 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on April 10, 2010, 08:21:09 PM
Was interested until I saw who was developing. It's going to be crap.

Isn't it by Climax UK whose latest two games were Silent Hill Shattered Memories & Silent Hill Origins?
Those were good games, I'd rather have them developing this than just another generic XBLA/PSN developer.
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Post by: demi on April 11, 2010, 07:04:22 PM: Quote from: Bebpo on April 11, 2010, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on April 10, 2010, 08:21:09 PM
Was interested until I saw who was developing. It's going to be crap.

Isn't it by Climax UK whose latest two games were Silent Hill Shattered Memories & Silent Hill Origins?
Those were good games, I'd rather have them developing this than just another generic XBLA/PSN developer.

Yep, gonna be crap. 2 Series butchered