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Title: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Tieno on October 08, 2009, 07:52:19 AM: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/student/article6865260.ece

British universities dominate the world Top Ten rankings for the first time this year, with London institutions climbing higher than ever.

Cambridge is the highest placed British institution, coming second only to Harvard. University College London (UCL) made the biggest gains, moving into fourth place — its highest position. But Oxford fell to joint fifth with Imperial College London.

The world rankings, published today in the Times Higher Education magazine, are based on surveys of academics and the views of employers about the best graduates. They also take into account the amount of research produced by academics, ratios of students to staff, and the number of international students.

A spokesman for Oxford University said that its position behind Cambridge, UCL and Imperial was “surprising, given that Oxford has the highest research income of any British university and has come first in every national league table”.

It is the first time in the six-year history of the world rankings that Oxbridge’s position as the two leading British institutions has been broken.

Student satisfaction ratings are not taken into account in the international rankings. But in domestic tables, which consider the views of students, Oxford fared well this year. It came top of both The Times and The Sunday Times rankings.

Ben Sowter, the head of research at QS, the education consultancy that compiled the tables, said: “There is a growing trend for London as an international brand and this contributes to the ability of its universities to attract leading international students and faculty. Oxford and Cambridge are always going to maintain a measure of prestige and excellence but on the international stage there are some different aspects coming in to play.”

Professor Malcolm Grant, the president of UCL, said: “We are pleased by UCL’s spectacular progression up the tables in recent years, because it does reflect the truly outstanding quality of UCL’s community of academics and of our students from around the world.”

American universities have traditionally fared well in the table but this year the number of US institutions in the top 100 fell to 36, down from 42 in 2008. Researchers said that this reflected the “growing presence and impact of Asian and European institutions on the world higher education stage”.

Asian universities increased their number in the rankings from 14 to 16 this year. Britain has 18 universities in the top 100, one more than in 2008.

All top ten universities scored between 95.9 and 100 points, so small differences in institutions made large differences in rank order.

1. Harvard University, United States (1)

2. University of Cambridge, United Kingdom (3)

3. Yale University, United States (2)

4. University College London, United Kingdom (7)

5. Imperial College London, United Kingdom (6)

6. University of Oxford, United Kingdom (4)

7. University of Chicago, United States (8)

8. Princeton University, United States (12)

9. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), United States (9)

10. California Institute of Technology (Caltech), United States (5)

11. Columbia University, United States (10)

12. University of Pennsylvania, United States (11)

13. Johns Hopkins University, United States (13)

14. Duke University, United States (13)

15. Cornell University, United States (15)

16. Stanford University, United States (17)

17. Australian National University, Australia (16)

18. McGill University, Canada (20)

19. University of Michigan, United States (18)

20. ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology), Switzerland (24)

21. University of Edinburgh, United Kingdom (23)

22. University of Tokyo, Japan (19)

23. King’s College London, United Kingdom (22)

24. University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong (26)

25. Kyoto University, Japan (25)

26. University of Manchester, United Kingdom (29)

27. Carnegie Mellon University, United States (21)

28. Ecole Normale Superieure, Paris, France (28)

29. University of Toronto, Canada (41)

30. National University of Singapore, Singapore (30)

31. Brown University, United States (27)

32. Northwestern University, United States (33)

32. University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), United States (30)

34. University of Bristol, United Kingdom (32)

35. Hong Kong University of Science & Technology, Hong Kong (39)

36. Ecole Polytechnique, France (34)

36. The University of Melbourne, Australia (38)

36. The University of Sydney, Australia (37)

39. University of California, Berkeley, United States (36)

40. University of British Columbia, Canada (34)

41. University of Queensland, Australia (43)

42. Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne, Switzerland (50)

43. Osaka University, Japan (44)

43. Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland (49)

45. Monash University, Australia (47)

46. The Chinese University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong (42)

47. Seoul National University, Korea (50)

47. University of New South Wales, Australia (45)

49. Tsinghua University, China (56)

49. University of Amsterdam, Netherlands (53)
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 08, 2009, 09:29:12 AM: Yale :yuck

The only thing worse than Yale is the people that go to Yale and brag that they go to Yale.

"Hey, didn't you hear? I go to Yale." ugh
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Barry Egan on October 08, 2009, 09:52:43 AM: list is bullshit. My university is the best on the planet.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: twerd on October 08, 2009, 12:23:43 PM: Quote from: mojovonio on October 08, 2009, 09:21:04 AM
McGill :rock
:'( got waitlisted there and then, after 3 months waiting, rejected.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 08, 2009, 12:34:45 PM: How does Britain dominate the top ten, when 6 are in the U.S.? :drake
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: DJ_Tet on October 08, 2009, 12:35:53 PM: I'm surprised to see Michigan there. I knew it was a good school but never considered it to be world class.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Bocsius on October 08, 2009, 12:39:24 PM: Quote from: Kestastrophe on October 08, 2009, 12:34:45 PM
How does Britain dominate the top ten, when 6 are in the U.S.? :drake

UK dominates the top 6 then. :smug

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US dominates the top one. :drake
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Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 12:52:07 PM: That's bs. Most of the top 100 lists from the last few years barely had any UK schools in the top 10.

It's common knowledge that US education has long surpassed UK's.

Here're two of the recent alternate lists:

http://acmsolver.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/top-100-universities-in-the-world-2008-arwu-by-shanghai-jiao-tong-university-china/

1. Harvard University, USA
2. Stanford University, USA
3. University of California, Berkeley, USA
4. University of Cambridge, UK
5. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), USA
6. California Institute of Technology, USA
7. Columbia University, USA
8. Princeton University, USA
9. University of Chicago, USA
10. Oxford University, U.K
11. Yale University, USA
12. Cornell University, USA
13. University of California, Los Angeles, USA
14. University of California, San Diego, USA
15. University of Pennsylvania, USA

16. University of Washington, Seattle, USA
17. University of Wisconsin, Madison, USA
18. University of California, San Francisco, USA
19. Tokyo University, Japan
20. John Hopkins University, USA
21. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, USA
22. University College of London, UK
23. Kyoto University, Japan
24. Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, Zurich, Switzerland
25. University of Toronto, Canada
26. University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign, USA
27. Imperial College of London, UK
28. University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, USA
29. Washington University, St Louis, USA
30. Northwestern University, USA
31. New York University, USA
32. Duke University, USA
33. Rockefeller University, USA
34. University of Colorado, Boulder, USA
35. University of British Colombia, Canada
36. University of California, Santa Barbara,USA
37. University of Maryland, Coll Park, USA
38. University of North Carolina,Chapel Hill, USA
39. University of Texas, Austin, USA
40. University of Manchester, UK
41. University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, USA
42. Pennsylvania State University, USA
43. University of Paris 06, France
44. Vanderbilt University, USA
45. University of Copenhagen, Denmark
46. University of California, Irvine, USA
47. University of Utrecht, Netherlands
48. University of California, Davis
49. University of Paris 11, USA
50. University of Southern California, USA
51. Karolinska Institute of Stockholm, Sweden
52. University of Pittsburgh, USA
53. University of Zurich, Switzerland
54. Rutgers State University, New Brunswick, USA
55. University of Edinburgh, UK
56. University of Munich, Germany
57. Technical University of Munich, Germany
58. University of Florida, USA
59. Australian National University, Australia
60. McGill University, Canada
61. University of Bristol, UK
62. Carnegie Mellon University, USA
63. Ohio State University, Columbus, USA
64. University of Oslo, Norway
65. Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel
66. Purdue University, West Lafayette, USA
67. University of Heidelberg, Germany
68. Osaka University, Japan
69. University of Helsinki, Finland
70. Moscow State University, Russia
71. Brown University, USA
72. Uppsala University, Sweden
73. Ecole Normale Super Paris, France
74. University of Melbourne, Australia
75. University of Rochester, USA
76. University of Leiden, Netherlands
77. University of Arizona, USA
78. University of Sheffield, UK
79. Tohoku University, Japan
80. University of Utah, USA
81. King’s College London, UK
82. University of Nottingham, UK
83. Boston University, USA
84. Case Western Reserve University, USA
85. Michigan State University, USA
86. Stockholm University, Sweden
87. University Basel, Switzerland
88. Texas A&M University, Coll Station, USA
89. McMaster University, Canada
90. University of Goettingen, Germany
91. University of Birmingham, UK
92. Indiana University, Bloomington, USA
93. Aarhus University, Denmark
94. Arizon State University, Tempe, USA
95. University of Virginia, USA
96. University Freiburg, Germany
97. Lund University, Sweden
98. Rice University, USA
99. University of Bonn, Germany

Don't know where this 2nd one is from but I've seen it before and know that it's legit.

1 Harvard University USA

2 Stanford University USA 

3 University Cambridge UK

4 University California - Berkeley

5 Massachusetts Institute Tech (MIT) USA

6 California In stTech USA 

7 Princeton University USA

8 University Oxford UK

9 Columbia University USA

10 University Chicago USA

11 Yale University USA

12 Cornell University USA

13 University California - San Diego USA

14 Tokyo University Japan

15 University Pennsylvania USA

16 University California - Los Angeles USA

17 University California - San Francisco USA

18 University Wisconsin - Madison USA

19 University Michigan - Ann Arbor USA

20 University Washington - Seattle USA

21 Kyoto University Japan

22 Johns Hopkins University USA

23 Imperial College London UK

24 University Toronto Canada

25 University College London UK

25 University Illinois - Urbana Champaign USA

27 Swiss Fed InstituteTech - Zurich Switzerland

28 Washington University - St. Louis USA

29 Rockefeller University USA

30 Northwestern University USA

31 Duke University USA

32 New York University USA

33 University Minnesota - Twin Cities USA

34 University Colorado - Boulder USA

35 University California - Santa Barbara USA

36 University British Columbia Canada

36 University Texas Southwestern Med Center USA

38 Vanderbilt University USA

39 University Utrecht Netherlands

40 University Texas - Austin USA

41 University Paris 06 France

42 University California - Davis USA

43 Pennsylvania State University - University Park USA

44 Rutgers State University - New Brunswick USA

45 Tech University Munich Germany

46 Karolinska InstituteStockholm Sweden

47 University Edinburgh UK

48 University Paris 11 France

49 University Pittsburgh - Pittsburgh USA

50 University Southern California USA

51 University Munich Germany

52 University Rochester USA

53 Australian Natl University Australia

54 Osaka University Japan

55 University California - Irvine USA

56 University North Carolina - Chapel Hill USA

57 University Maryland - CollegePark USA

57 University Zurich Switzerland

59 University Copenhagen Denmark

60 University Bristol UK

61 McGill University Canada

62 Carnegie Mellon University USA

63 University Leiden Netherlands

64 University Heidelberg Germany

65 Case Western Reserve University USA

66 Moscow State University Russia

67 University Florida USA

68 University Oslo Norway

69 Tohoku University Japan

69 University Sheffield UK

71 Purdue University - West Lafayette USA

72 University Helsinki Finland

73 Ohio State University - Columbus USA

74 Uppsala University Sweden

75 Rice University USA

76 University Arizona USA

77 Kings College London UK

78 University Manchester UK

79 University Goettingen Germany

80 Michigan State University USA

80 University Nottingham UK

82 Brown University USA

82 University Melbourne Australia

82 University Strasbourg 1 France

85 Ecole Normale Super Paris France

86 Boston University USA

86 University Vienna Austria

88 McMaster University Canada

88 University Freiburg Germany

90 Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel

91 University Basel Switzerland

92 Lund University Sweden 

93 University Birmingham UK

93 University Roma - La Sapienza Italy

95 Humboldt University Berlin Germany

95 University Utah USA

97 Nagoya University Japan

97 Stockholm University Sweden

99 Tufts University USA

99 University Bonn Germany
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Tauntaun on October 08, 2009, 01:02:41 PM: :american :american :american

"Telling the world to suck it for over 200 years!" :smug
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Barry Egan on October 08, 2009, 01:11:57 PM: 1. University of King's College
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2. Columbia
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Bocsius on October 08, 2009, 01:57:53 PM: Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 12:52:07 PM
That's bs. Most of the top 100 lists from the last few years barely had any UK schools in the top 10.

It's common knowledge that US education has long surpassed UK's.

Consider the source. http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/ (http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/) :smug
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Tieno on October 08, 2009, 01:58:46 PM: :usacry desperately clinging on :usacry

times are a changing
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Bocsius on October 08, 2009, 01:59:35 PM: Shut your hole, waffle boy
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 08, 2009, 02:01:56 PM: By dominate, they mean they did better. That's like saying the Lions are dominating this year.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 08, 2009, 02:47:49 PM: Quote from: Tieno on October 08, 2009, 01:58:46 PM
:usacry desperately clinging on :usacry

times are a changing
They've been changing since 1776 :american

Quote from: CajoleJuice on October 08, 2009, 02:01:56 PM
By dominate, they mean they did better. That's like saying the Lions are dominating this year.
Yeah, the headline is a bit ridiculous, considering the UK didn't even capture a majority of the top ten spots. They should have just stated London, since it as a city is highly represented
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 03:00:08 PM: Quote
Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world

except not quite:

Quote
1. Harvard University, United States (1)

2. University of Cambridge, United Kingdom (3)

:gbcry

(I live in america, so it's like I vicariously win through Harvard, which will stave me off from suicide for one more day)
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 03:52:09 PM: Quote from: Kosma on October 08, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
So where did you guys go?

uw-madison, which seems to have dropped from the top 20 :'(
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on October 08, 2009, 03:54:04 PM: #39. University of Texas :rock
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Boogie on October 08, 2009, 06:44:56 PM: Quote from: mojovonio on October 08, 2009, 09:21:04 AM
McGill :rock

Fucking McGill. :yuck

Quote from: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 12:52:07 PM
That's bs. Most of the top 100 lists from the last few years barely had any UK schools in the top 10.

It's common knowledge that US education has long surpassed UK's.

Here're two of the recent alternate lists:

I like your two lists better for two reasons:

1) UofT is higher on both of them than the one in the OP

2) UofT is higher than McGill on both of them than the one in the OP.

Quote from: Kosma on October 08, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
So where did you guys go?

University of Toronto. #29 in the world, baby! :rock

(#25 and #24 in Smooth Groove's lists :rock)
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Boogie on October 08, 2009, 06:48:30 PM: Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 08, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: Kosma on October 08, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
So where did you guys go?

uw-madison, which seems to have dropped from the top 20 :'(

You're still in the top 20 in Smooth Groove's lists.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Diunx on October 08, 2009, 06:54:16 PM: My university is a piece of shit, I can't even enter a porn site from here.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 08, 2009, 06:56:03 PM: Quote from: Boogie on October 08, 2009, 06:44:56 PM
University of Toronto. #29 in the world, baby! :rock

(#25 and #24 in Smooth Groove's lists :rock)
I am actually looking at the school for my next endeavor
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 08, 2009, 06:56:15 PM: Quote from: Diunx on October 08, 2009, 06:54:16 PM
My university is a piece of shit, I can't even enter a porn site from here.

I'm pretty sure porn access was not the determining factor for these lists.

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also in before Boogie posts that UofT has better porn access in both quality and quantity than McGill lol
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Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Kara on October 08, 2009, 07:50:35 PM: Have you been expelled from a top 50 university in the world? I have.

:drake
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: CajoleJuice on October 08, 2009, 07:53:57 PM: .
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 10:05:18 PM: TBH, I just think the OP's list is BS because it's the only one which didn't have my school in the top 5. :P
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 10:19:40 PM: Did anyone notice that the Hong Kong (former British colony) schools are ranked unusually high in the UK Times list?

There's definitely some UK bias going on.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Madrun Badrun on October 08, 2009, 10:19:58 PM: Quote from: Green Man on October 08, 2009, 10:12:13 PM
ITT: Schools I could never afford.

Canadian schools are cheep.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 08, 2009, 10:22:27 PM: wow no dartmouth
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 10:55:30 PM: Quote from: Boogie on October 08, 2009, 06:48:30 PM
Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 08, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
Quote from: Kosma on October 08, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
So where did you guys go?

uw-madison, which seems to have dropped from the top 20 :'(

You're still in the top 20 in Smooth Groove's lists.

ah, I see his are from 2008. I think the second one might be U.S. News or...some other one from a popular school ranking mag.

these fucking brits have never been to madison.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Oblivion on October 08, 2009, 10:57:56 PM: 32. University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), United States (30)

:rock
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 11:30:42 PM: Or you could study harder and get some scholarships. It's quite easy to at least get a half ride scholarship in the US.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Joe Molotov on October 08, 2009, 11:33:15 PM: I got paid to go to school. :rock Not a good school, obviously, but still.
Title: Re: Britain dominates list of the Top Ten universities in the world
Post by: Kara on October 09, 2009, 12:22:37 AM: Quote from: Oblivion on October 08, 2009, 10:57:56 PM
32. University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), United States (30)

:rock

Go Bruins!