THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Flannel Boy on October 09, 2009, 07:08:50 PM
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Theo Fleury acknowledges he was allegedly sexually abused by junior coach Graham James, a convicted sex offender, while he played for James, and attributes that to driving him to alcohol and drugs during his NHL career, according to a new autobiography making waves in the Canadian media.
The book, "Playing With Fire," is Fleury's first comment on the subject, which has been speculated about for years. He also writes that he failed 13 drug tests during his career, but was never prevented from playing.
Fleury writes that James forced himself on Fleury during the player's junior days in Winnipeg.
"Graham was on me once or twice a week for the next two years," Fleury writes, according to several Canadian sources, including MacLeans. "An absolute nightmare, every day of my life."
NHL officials told ESPN.com they were not prepared to comment on the book's allegations at this time.
James, a well-known Canadian junior hockey coach, served 3½ years in prison after being convicted of sexually abusing some of his players, including Sheldon Kennedy, the only player prior to Fleury to go public. James currently coaches junior hockey in Europe.
Fleury writes that "the direct result of my being abused was that I became a f---ing raging, alcoholic lunatic," according to the report in MacLeans.
"I no longer had faith in myself or my own judgment," Fleury writes. "And when you come down to it, that's all a person has. Once it's gone, how do you get it back?"
He writes that he didn't tell anyone about his ordeal because he was afraid it would jeopardize his career.
"I could see how it would play," Fleury writes. "I would have been stigmatized forever as the kid who was molested by his coach. The Victim."
Fleury played in the NHL for 16 seasons, the first 11 with the Calgary Flames before a trade to Colorado. Known as a feisty, fiery player, he had 1,840 penalty minutes in 1,084 career games and also scored 455 career goals. Fleury's last season in the NHL (2002-03) was spent with the Chicago Blackhawks; he tried to come back at age 41 with the Flames in training camp this fall but was cut.
Kennedy, according to the Toronto Star, said: "I knew, but it wasn't my place to say anything. I made a commitment to myself I wasn't blowing the whistle on anybody."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4545993
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Nobody cares about hockey.
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What level is Junior Hockey? Are we talking 12-13 yr olds or like 18-20?
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What level is Junior Hockey? Are we talking 12-13 yr olds or like 18-20?
Junior players range from around 15 to 19.
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What level is Junior Hockey? Are we talking 12-13 yr olds or like 18-20?
Junior players range from around 15 to 19.
lol then why didn't he kick his ass?
:cancry
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What level is Junior Hockey? Are we talking 12-13 yr olds or like 18-20?
Junior players range from around 15 to 19.
lol then why didn't he kick his ass?
:cancry
Clearly he wanted it; what a slutty slut.
A junior player is away from home and his coach is like his father, a father who could make or break his pro career. Players in Canada tend to jump from junior hockey straight into the NHL draft.
Theres no woman to blame in this story ???
I was going to make a Kosma/Polanski joke in the OP, but I wanted to give someone else a chance to. Yet no one took the bait!
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Yeah I saw this and was like wtf. Theo has been my favorite NHL player since I started watching.
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Yeah I saw this and was like wtf. Theo has been my favorite NHL player since I started watching.
What are you thoughts now that you've learned Theo is a slut who made his coach shove his unwilling hands down his hockey pants and forced him to stick handle his penis?
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Yeah I saw this and was like wtf. Theo has been my favorite NHL player since I started watching.
What are you thoughts now that you've learned Theo is a slut who made his coach shove his unwilling hands down his hockey pants and forced him to stick handle his penis?
My first thoughts were about 13 failed drug tests and that I don't recall the NHL saying much about it.
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Yeah I saw this and was like wtf. Theo has been my favorite NHL player since I started watching.
What are you thoughts now that you've learned Theo is a slut who made his coach shove his unwilling hands down his hockey pants and forced him to stick handle his penis?
He's a hockey player man, he could defend himself so he obviously wanted to try the cock.
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Yeah I saw this and was like wtf. Theo has been my favorite NHL player since I started watching.
What are you thoughts now that you've learned Theo is a slut who made his coach shove his unwilling hands down his hockey pants and forced him to stick handle his penis?
My first thoughts were about 13 failed drug tests and that I don't recall the NHL saying much about it.
Well, I don't think he was taking performance enhancing drugs. Maybe some HGH.
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Yeah I saw this and was like wtf. Theo has been my favorite NHL player since I started watching.
What are you thoughts now that you've learned Theo is a slut who made his coach shove his unwilling hands down his hockey pants and forced him to stick handle his penis?
He's a hockey player man, he could defend himself so he obviously wanted to try the cock.
fleury probably wasn't taller than 5' 6". And that's not important because Graham James had control and authority over him, making Fleury believe that he couldn't resist.
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Don't know man sounds like the guy is a secret homo.
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Don't know man sounds like the guy is a secret homo.
I have no idea whether you're joking. You did partially support Kosma in the Polanksi thread, so who knows.
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I'm joking this time.
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Well, I don't think he was taking performance enhancing drugs. Maybe some HGH.
HGH is almost impossible to detect in urinalysis. In fact, even some admitted users of the stuff have tested negative with blood tests as well. The way he says it, I doubt it was anything like PEDs; probably weed, coke, etc
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Well, I don't think he was taking performance enhancing drugs. Maybe some HGH.
HGH is almost impossible to detect in urinalysis. In fact, even some admitted users of the stuff have tested negative with blood tests as well. The way he says it, I doubt it was anything like PEDs; probably weed, coke, etc
I was making a joke about his height. (and yes I know it won't make him taller)
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Oh :lol
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Yeah I saw this and was like wtf. Theo has been my favorite NHL player since I started watching.
What are you thoughts now that you've learned Theo is a slut who made his coach shove his unwilling hands down his hockey pants and forced him to stick handle his penis?
My first thoughts were about 13 failed drug tests and that I don't recall the NHL saying much about it.
Well, I don't think he was taking performance enhancing drugs. Maybe some HGH.
Yeah, I don't think they were roids. Just that he was drinking heavily and probably doing some hard stuff.
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Yeah, I don't think they were roids. Just that he was drinking heavily and probably doing some hard stuff.
Given his history, I just presumed it was coke.
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Well, if the guy is sorry and Fleury forgives him, then I say nothing should become of it. Assuming he even did it, because that's debatable.
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Well, if the guy is sorry and Fleury forgives him, then I say nothing should become of it. Assuming he even did it, because that's debatable.
Nothing? Isn't the guy coaching kids still?
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Kinda shocking that anyone convicted of sexual abuse could get a job as a coach of a youth team. But eh, that's Europe for you I guess! :smug
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How many minutes in the penalty box do you get for molesting one of your players?
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Well, if the guy is sorry and Fleury forgives him, then I say nothing should become of it. Assuming he even did it, because that's debatable.
Nothing? Isn't the guy coaching kids still?
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32097.msg945344#msg945344 :gloomy