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Title: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2009, 09:55:16 PM
2 more days!

Who's getting Windows 7? I get it for free with my laptop.  8)

Question about installation, though. The computer came with Vista 64 bit installed, but I dled the Windows 7 evaluation the day after I got my laptop and never looked back.

Will I be given the option to wipe Vista and this version of 7 off my hd without having to format? How can I get past this issue? I don't want Vista and Windows 7 Evaluation taking up my hd space.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 20, 2009, 09:58:23 PM
IIRC you have to do a clean install (you can do an upgrade from Vista -> 7, but not 7RC -> 7RTM or XP -> 7) and it just dumps all your old stuff into a windows.old folder.  then you can copy over whatever you like, but you'll have to reinstall programs.

Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2009, 10:00:01 PM
So I'm going to have to go back to Vista in order to install?
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 20, 2009, 10:05:29 PM
fuck this shit OSX is so much bettar


(getting it for dual boot at some point)


will the $30 student upgrade version allow for a fresh install?  i know, seems like a dumb question, but I've seen conflicting info about this.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 20, 2009, 10:09:29 PM
If you want to do an in-place upgrade (one that keeps all your settings, installed programs, etc.) then yes.  If you're willing to do a clean install (one that doesn't actually carry over any of your old stuff, but just dumps it in a folder like I mentioned) then no.  IIRC there's some way to do a clean install with an "upgrade" package by giving it your Vista/XP key or something, I don't think you actually have to have Vista installed.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2009, 10:23:14 PM
Shiiiit. I don't have my boot cd with me so how the hell can I uninstall Windows 7 RC and go back to Vista?
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: demi on October 20, 2009, 10:24:11 PM
I just went from XP -> 7

I wish I had an XP partition so I can play older games. Apparently Win7 has some emulator but I dont know how it works or if it will even let me run these older games.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bildi on October 20, 2009, 10:27:47 PM
I'll probably get a new computer at work with 7 on it.  I'm not looking forward to changing from XP and Office 2003, but I am glad I managed to bypass Vista entirely. 8)
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on October 20, 2009, 10:30:17 PM
Already been using it since the Betas.  8) Sweet OS.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 20, 2009, 10:39:25 PM
"Apparently Win7 has some emulator but I dont know how it works or if it will even let me run these older games."

xp mode isn't for games, it's for broken business apps.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: demi on October 20, 2009, 10:40:12 PM
Wow, PC gaming is crap.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: pilonv1 on October 20, 2009, 10:49:03 PM
getting Win 7 with my new PC next week :hyper
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 21, 2009, 12:21:44 AM
Yeah I'm getting my 30 dollar upgrade on Thursday.  I wish I could do a clean install with it, but it's no big problem I guess.  I'll just dig around for my old Vista CD and "clean install" from there.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: MCD on October 21, 2009, 12:30:07 AM
broke right now and retail copy is only for one pc, my laptop needs one too.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 21, 2009, 12:30:37 AM
I just went from XP -> 7

I wish I had an XP partition so I can play older games. Apparently Win7 has some emulator but I dont know how it works or if it will even let me run these older games.

Quick solution:

Get a cheap HD.  Format it and set it as #1 in the Bios HD priority list.  Then just boot up with the Windows XP CD and install XP on that HD.

Remove your current HD if you're worried about overwriting stuff on it.  

After you're done, just reset the HD priority list when trying to boot into a different OS.  
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: GilloD on October 21, 2009, 01:04:50 AM
Wish I'd nabbed the 30$ upgrade or whatever. 200$ is steep bizz. May have to wait for them to cut me a deal.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 21, 2009, 01:12:22 AM
I'm getting it whenever Dell ships it out. Same deal, free upgrade with the laptop.

Our office is actually hosting a Microsoft-sponsored launch party for it. No idea what that entails beyond a chance for some Microsoft people to do some PowerPoint presentation. They say we're one of 10 communities to have such an event, don't know exactly how reliable that information is, but whatever.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: chronovore on October 22, 2009, 03:30:48 AM
Apparently this is a lot lighter OS than Vista, or even XP. They made it with the realization that users generally want their computers to do specific stuff, like email and browsing. It sounds like of like the philosophy behind PowerPC and RISC chips: make the core stuff simple and fast, but be able to do the other stuff /if/ it's needed. Or am I on der crack again?

As for S/N on upgrades, they've historically offered clean installs as long as you can provide a disc/CD key for the previous version of the OS. But I have never dealt with a Vista or Win7 install, so...
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Rman on October 22, 2009, 03:34:13 AM
I'll get it for free from work.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 22, 2009, 03:34:48 AM
Is it really much better to do a clean install rather than an upgrade? I'm pretty lazy and don't feel like re-downloading all the problems and things I use.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: GilloD on October 22, 2009, 04:31:10 AM
How can I get this cheaply? Any deals around?
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 22, 2009, 04:33:54 AM
should've sprung for the preorder :smug
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 22, 2009, 12:28:53 PM
IIRC you have to do a clean install (you can do an upgrade from Vista -> 7, but not 7RC -> 7RTM or XP -> 7) and it just dumps all your old stuff into a windows.old folder.

That's not so bad. Would you recommend upgrading from XP > Vista > 7, or is a clean install to 7 alright?
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: MCD on October 22, 2009, 12:33:40 PM
Upgrades :yuck

fresh installan all the way.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on October 22, 2009, 12:39:06 PM
does the "old stuff" dumped into the windows.old folder include .exe's?
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 22, 2009, 12:54:18 PM
Our office is actually hosting a Microsoft-sponsored launch party for it. No idea what that entails beyond a chance for some Microsoft people to do some PowerPoint presentation. They say we're one of 10 communities to have such an event, don't know exactly how reliable that information is, but whatever.

This party/presentation is going on right now. Since we're hosting it, naturally most of us did not get invited.  >:(

But I walked past the conference room and for now it's just a dude in a suit making a speech to a bunch of people in various states of disinterest. And he pronounced the name of our company wrong.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Brehvolution on October 22, 2009, 12:58:34 PM
does the "old stuff" dumped into the windows.old folder include .exe's?
windows.old is just where your old windows installation was. Delete it.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2009, 04:18:02 PM
Did anyone buy a new computer from Best Buy in recent months to get a free copy of Windows 7? I go to www.bestbuy.com/windows7upgrade which is shown on my pamphlet which was given to me when I bought my new laptop a few months ago and apparently the upgrade ISN'T free? I have to pay money? But it says on the pamphlet I get it for free.

Oh, you have to go to your computer's manufacturer site and register your pc in order to get it.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 22, 2009, 06:44:05 PM
so far this seems pretty nice

WMP is also pretty awesome now.  I'm replacing winamp finally.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2009, 06:48:33 PM
WMP? WMP 12? WMP 12 sucks. =/ Or at least, the one that's in Wndows 7 RC.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 22, 2009, 07:00:38 PM
it's whatever the one that's quick and I can control from the little hover window in the taskbar.

uh, it says  version 12.0.7 and then a bunch of numbers.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2009, 07:13:29 PM
Maybe WMP 12 in actual W7 is good.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 22, 2009, 07:21:12 PM
wmp12 rocks faces, especially compared to wmp11
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2009, 07:26:59 PM
Would rather use Zune software.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 22, 2009, 07:30:24 PM
the new download progress thing for internet explorer is freaking great.

the only things I don't like are that the icons on the bottom bar turn extreme bright gray when using that window or even just idle.  I have my theme set to pure black and it stands out way too much.  That's just a weird aesthetic problem.  My other problems have to do with right clicking files in that bar.  They moved the button to close them higher up and right under the stupid pin it one.

oh, and :bow content view in folders :bow2

It combines what I like about music organizing software with my preference for just having everything in folders I make myself.

Zune software looks nice but it is too heavy.  WMP12 has a fairly light load and does what I need.

ugh, the moving of the close button is going to take some getting used to.  between making this post and making this edit, I've made the mistake of clicking the window instead of the x based on old habits.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 22, 2009, 08:54:32 PM
Well, I've "ordered" my free upgrade off Dell.com, so I guess it will be here in the next few days.

In community launch event news, I got a t-shirt. It's too big.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: demi on October 22, 2009, 08:55:01 PM
Use it as a nutrag
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 22, 2009, 08:58:02 PM
Would rather use Zune software.
I think it's sad Microsoft is so big they actually have two radically different media players. Thankfully Zune is the easily superior one.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2009, 10:28:53 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/22/apple-welcomes-windows-7-the-only-way-it-knows-how-with-a-new-c/#continued

I'm glad I've never owned a mac
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 22, 2009, 10:35:21 PM
Because of their advertising?  smh himumu
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 22, 2009, 11:34:59 PM
The Mac ads are funny, but that's about it. I'll never switch... at least not as long as (a) I'm a Windows-based programmer and (b) PCs are much more economical.

I have a friend who's sort of in the same boat with his career, being an IT professional dealing mostly in Windows-based support. Yet he keeps having a crazy notion of wanting to get a Mac. It comes up every so often. I'm like, "dude.... you support Windows." I put it down as irrationality.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 22, 2009, 11:50:09 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/22/apple-welcomes-windows-7-the-only-way-it-knows-how-with-a-new-c/#continued

I'm glad I've never owned a mac

that commercial was funny, stop being a drama queen :lol 

Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: drew on October 22, 2009, 11:53:14 PM
im using windows xp on a mac right now :smug

not only that, but with a classic theme as well :teehee
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 22, 2009, 11:58:41 PM
 :lol

The MacBook Pro closest to my laptop build costs $2499.99 on bestbuy.com.

My laptop cost me about $1100 this summer.

I'm a Mac :smug
And I'm affordable. :drake
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Himu on October 22, 2009, 11:59:34 PM
Because of their advertising?  smh himumu

No, I actually like the pc vs mac ads.

I'm just fine with pc.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 23, 2009, 12:18:40 AM
Whatever, I'm glad I use a mac because it makes me look cool and sophisticated and hipster and being hipster is cool and I'm gonna go download whatever's number 1 on itunes see you pcfags later  8)


but really, anyone got any W7 impressions? 
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 23, 2009, 08:11:32 AM
I've been using the RC at work (not my idea) since May, no complaints here.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 23, 2009, 10:07:37 AM
Well, at least they fixed the shitpile that was the original Vista with this new iteration. I hope Vista round two makes it's way to netbooks sometime soon.


Isn't 7 basically Vista with a couple upgrades?  I thought the whole thing was that they needed to rebrand vista.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 23, 2009, 10:10:01 AM
the funniest thing about those mac ads is imagining the shock on people's faces when they go to the store to check them out and realize HOLY FUCKING CHRIST THIS THING IS FIFTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS, then leave with a $500 dell or hp
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 23, 2009, 10:51:53 AM
I just did a clean install of 7. finally ditched that buggy XP64 partition.

Thankfully the glitch in the 7100 RC is not present in the retail. It's reading all my hardware at the correct potential and games running like shit. Tested a few games, Crysis, Fallout 3, Riddick, L4D... all run excellently. And it's rating my video card as a 7.8. woot.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 23, 2009, 11:08:01 AM
Honestly, I think most of the hate for Vista and love for W7 comes from stuff that's been fixed in Vista anyway (and even there, most of that comes from hardware drivers and software compatibility being fixed, common hardware getting more powerful, and people getting used to the UI changes, rather than any actual fixes to the OS itself in SP1 or SP2).  That's not to say that 7 isn't significantly better than Vista -- it is, and definitely worth the $50 upgrade for me, though $100 or $200 would've been iffier -- but I don't think the actual improvements are where the difference in reception is coming from.  (some of it is probably coming from smarter MSFT PR, for that matter).
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: lordmaji on October 23, 2009, 11:10:16 AM
....so gaming on Win7 is suck?
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 23, 2009, 11:16:32 AM
....so gaming on Win7 is suck?

nope. it did for me on the 7100 RC. but on retail, everything is running great.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 23, 2009, 11:38:12 AM
Quote
Isn't 7 basically Vista with a couple upgrades?  I thought the whole thing was that they needed to rebrand vista.

Sorta, but you could say every version of an OS is basically the previous one with some upgrades.  It's very rare someone makes a production-grade OS from scratch.  Microsoft's only ever started over once, when they moved from Windows "classic" to NT (and even then, IIRC it was only the kernel that was brand new, the userspace stuff was ported).  Apple's only made one big transition and even OS X was derived from NeXT (which was derived from BSD and Mach).

It's true that the changes from Vista -> 7 were less ambitious than the ones from XP -> Vista, and they were stricter about breaking compatibility.  They're not less ambitious than say 2000 -> XP or 95 -> 98, though.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 23, 2009, 11:47:15 AM
Windows 3.1, those were the days.

It's not much more than 10 years ago when my family had a computer running 3.1 with 165 MB of hard drive space. Yes, we were behind the times.
Moved from there to a Hewlett Packard. 333MHz AMD processor (K6-2? something like that?) with 32 MB of RAM and I think a 8 GB hard drive (could have been less). It had Windows 98.
Then I bought a Compaq Presario, 800Mhz PIII, 128 MB RAM and 30 GB hard drive. Windows Me. This was late 2000. Upgraded the OS to XP later on.
Spring 2004, Dell, 3GHz P4, gig of RAM, 120 GB hard drive. Still have it, still running XP.
August 2009, Dell Studio 17 notebook, dual core 2.53Ghz Intel, 64 bit, 4 gigs of RAM, 500 GB hard drive, Vista, soon to be upgraded to 7 when I receive the software from Dell.

Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 23, 2009, 11:50:12 AM
Actually I'd say prior to 7, 3.1 was probably the best consumer version of Windows evar for what it was (i.e. a single-user OS with low system requirements, only light multitasking and no Internet connectivity).
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 23, 2009, 11:54:19 AM
AOL for 3.1 was fun.

The HP computer with the AMD processor and Windows 98 was the worst. Always crashing. You'd see streaks run across the monitor and then BSOD moments later. Tragic.

The Compaq with Millennium was better, though. Putting XP on it might have been a mistake in retrospect, it just didn't have the RAM for it. I took that one out to my parents when I got my first Dell. (I eventually bought them a new computer entirely. Truly, the RAM deficiency grew to be horrendous.)

And, of course, my Dells have been excellent.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Tauntaun on October 23, 2009, 01:06:24 PM
:lol

The MacBook Pro closest to my laptop build costs $2499.99 on bestbuy.com.

My laptop cost me about $1100 this summer.

I'm a Mac :smug
And I'm affordable. :drake

:lol


I'll hopefully be getting my brother in law to get that student win7 deal for me.  :hyper 

He's distinguished mac fellow. :wag
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 23, 2009, 01:17:10 PM
Last I checked a Mac comparable to the barely-used-but-in-perfect-condition laptop I bought from Eel for $360 sold for something like $1200.  Not a fair comparison, I know.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on October 23, 2009, 01:18:16 PM
I bought a powerbook in 2004 for $3000 and sold it in 2007 for $2000.

Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 23, 2009, 01:27:49 PM
Macs. :lol

Every time I think about buying a MacBook, I realize it's still not as powerful as my now year and a half old HP that I bought open box for $600.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Tauntaun on October 23, 2009, 01:34:14 PM
Macs. :lol

Every time I think about buying a MacBook, I realize it's still not as powerful as my now year and a half old HP that I bought open box for $600.

:punch

:piss macs :piss2
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 23, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Nothing against Macs, mind you. I have a lot of Mac friends. :smug
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 23, 2009, 02:14:54 PM
Would you let your daughter marry a Mac person, though?  Be honest.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Bocsius on October 23, 2009, 02:31:40 PM
Over my dead body. :punch
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 23, 2009, 03:45:45 PM
Macs aren't too bad.  I can't justify owning a normal Apple computer because I need to my computer to be productive.  Netbooks and tablets seem to be made for just messing around on, so I wouldn't mind one of those by apple.  But never, ever for a home computer or laptop.  It's not just for games either.  Just doing simple tasks on a mac, uh, aren't.  It was such a breakthrough when I found that a room with PCs at the campus computer center so I could get things done on them.

The iphone/ipod touch is great though.  It's even a better gaming device than a mac computer.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: lordmaji on October 23, 2009, 04:18:27 PM
....so gaming on Win7 is suck?

nope. it did for me on the 7100 RC. but on retail, everything is running great.

so pretty much all games will run on it just fine then? So I wanted to play Master of Orion 2... it'll play it just fine? :P
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 23, 2009, 05:17:26 PM
Macs aren't too bad.  I can't justify owning a normal Apple computer because I need to my computer to be productive.  Netbooks and tablets seem to be made for just messing around on, so I wouldn't mind one of those by apple.  But never, ever for a home computer or laptop.  It's not just for games either.  Just doing simple tasks on a mac, uh, aren't.  It was such a breakthrough when I found that a room with PCs at the campus computer center so I could get things done on them.

The iphone/ipod touch is great though.  It's even a better gaming device than a mac computer.

That is such an incredible amount of bullshit.  Define "simple tasks."
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Fragamemnon on October 23, 2009, 07:12:41 PM
Apple design is inflexible-they have their way of presenting data and  workflows and if it that method doesn't click with you, the machines/software are awful to use. It has the huge benefit of being user-friendly if you do think the same way their HCI designers think, but god help you if it doesn't.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 23, 2009, 07:26:49 PM
I don't understand that at all.  I was a Windows user for over ten years and got a Macbook before I left for college and it took all of three days to get accustomed to the differences.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 23, 2009, 07:27:10 PM
....so gaming on Win7 is suck?

nope. it did for me on the 7100 RC. but on retail, everything is running great.

so pretty much all games will run on it just fine then? So I wanted to play Master of Orion 2... it'll play it just fine? :P


yes, but you need professional or ultimate to run in xp emulation mode.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 23, 2009, 07:29:11 PM
I don't understand that at all.  I was a Windows user for over ten years and got a Macbook before I left for college and it took all of three days to get accustomed to the differences.

you weren't any sort of power user, then. i have a macbook and it is still a pain to do common tasks outside of web browsing and various internet and office apps. tweaking, configuring, and file management is ugly and cumbersome, and apple buries so much useful information, especially with regards to networking. thnk god tvc has given me all the useful hotkey combinations!

why anyone would buy a macbook outside of the case aesthetic, i do not know.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on October 23, 2009, 07:40:30 PM
I tried OS X for a few minutes at the local mall's Apple Store.  It's pretty.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on October 23, 2009, 08:25:16 PM
I don't understand that at all.  I was a Windows user for over ten years and got a Macbook before I left for college and it took all of three days to get accustomed to the differences.

you weren't any sort of power user, then. i have a macbook and it is still a pain to do common tasks outside of web browsing and various internet and office apps. tweaking, configuring, and file management is ugly and cumbersome, and apple buries so much useful information, especially with regards to networking. thnk god tvc has given me all the useful hotkey combinations!

why anyone would buy a macbook outside of the case aesthetic, i do not know.

What the fuck sort of tweaking, configuring, are you talking about, like, coding?  For everything you can do on a Windows computer, you can learn to do on a Mac with a little bit of time to learn how.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 23, 2009, 09:56:43 PM
Tried to upgrade from boot.

It tells me to reboot and do it from within windows.

Rebooted and tried to upgrade from within windows. It told me to uninstall a bunch of crap and upgrade from a fresh boot.

Already annoyed.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 23, 2009, 10:05:56 PM
Macs aren't too bad.  I can't justify owning a normal Apple computer because I need to my computer to be productive.  Netbooks and tablets seem to be made for just messing around on, so I wouldn't mind one of those by apple.  But never, ever for a home computer or laptop.  It's not just for games either.  Just doing simple tasks on a mac, uh, aren't.  It was such a breakthrough when I found that a room with PCs at the campus computer center so I could get things done on them.

The iphone/ipod touch is great though.  It's even a better gaming device than a mac computer.

That is such an incredible amount of bullshit.  Define "simple tasks."

you know, "simple tasks".

I think I mentioned before that I had to use this mac computer most of my time in high school and a good part of college.  And admittedly I haven't owned an Apple computer since 1995 and am not accustomed to all the "user friendliness" of them.  But every time I had to use them to do work or just waste time between classes it was a headache.

Apple design is inflexible-they have their way of presenting data and  workflows and if it that method doesn't click with you, the machines/software are awful to use. It has the huge benefit of being user-friendly if you do think the same way their HCI designers think, but god help you if it doesn't.

Basically that.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Tauntaun on October 23, 2009, 10:08:14 PM
Tried to upgrade from boot.

It tells me to reboot and do it from within windows.

Rebooted and tried to upgrade from within windows. It told me to uninstall a bunch of crap and upgrade from a fresh boot.

Already annoyed.

lern how to use computar!  :maf
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: drew on October 24, 2009, 12:10:16 AM
why anyone would buy a macbook outside of the case aesthetic, i do not know.

they are required for a lot of design schools because of final cut and stuff

my school had labs with 30+ of those cinema screens on each floor, so its not like you had to buy an apple laptop to learn, but its a lot more convienient
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 24, 2009, 12:26:19 AM
im using windows xp on a mac right now :smug

not only that, but with a classic theme as well :teehee

Yeah, with Vista the first thing I'd do is turn off Aero and XP and go straight to the old 98 theme.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 24, 2009, 12:31:58 AM
Can't wait to slap this on the REPUBLIC OF GAMERS vomit-top :hyper
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 24, 2009, 03:28:40 AM
Can't wait to slap this on the REPUBLIC OF GAMERS vomit-top :hyper

i will be mailing you a special present next week

and for once it ISN'T a ziploc full of my semen
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: MCD on October 24, 2009, 03:43:41 AM
Anyone know a good windows 7 laptop? my brother is tired of his 2005 dell inspiron garbage.

and no netbook please.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: lordmaji on October 24, 2009, 04:39:16 AM
....so gaming on Win7 is suck?

nope. it did for me on the 7100 RC. but on retail, everything is running great.

so pretty much all games will run on it just fine then? So I wanted to play Master of Orion 2... it'll play it just fine? :P


yes, but you need professional or ultimate to run in xp emulation mode.

that common with games that have been made within the past 5yrs too? Just curious about how annoying it'll be to upgrade.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: ch1nchilla on October 24, 2009, 04:43:38 AM
The cool thing about Windows 7... is that OS X is bettar.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I got my MacBook Pro 25% off, BITCHES. WHAT.
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:ninja
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: demi on October 24, 2009, 04:48:00 AM
....so gaming on Win7 is suck?

nope. it did for me on the 7100 RC. but on retail, everything is running great.

so pretty much all games will run on it just fine then? So I wanted to play Master of Orion 2... it'll play it just fine? :P


yes, but you need professional or ultimate to run in xp emulation mode.

that common with games that have been made within the past 5yrs too? Just curious about how annoying it'll be to upgrade.

I couldnt get System Shock 2 to run. Anachronox runs fine though
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Tieno on October 24, 2009, 05:06:59 AM
lol @ people crying over the mac ads. You wish you could be so smug :smug
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Phoenix Dark on October 24, 2009, 05:20:05 AM
I might as well get this since I can get it free
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: MCD on October 24, 2009, 09:44:30 AM
[youtube=560,345]iyRyjNPZN8c[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyRyjNPZN8c

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X7V7NAYT

CHIIIIN
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2009, 09:48:06 AM
Got around to uninstalling a bunch of stuff and upgrading. Now I need to figure out how to get Ati Tray Tools working. I need that.  :'(

Otherwise my initial impression is that this seems much more like Vista than I thought with some of the more obvious and annoying stuff removed which I guess is the point.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 24, 2009, 03:32:03 PM
Can you install Windows 7 on multiple computers? I put it on my desktop PC, but can I just use my upgrade disk to upgrade my laptop also?
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on October 24, 2009, 04:41:53 PM
I played with it most of the morning doing typical computer stuff. Seems peppier and more responsive than Vista. Somewhat better performance when doing multiple things or even simple things like having a lot of windows open.

Nothing really exceptionally flashy or revolutionary or even overly useful so far for me feature wise. Like I said earlier it just sort of feels like the way I imagined Vista was supposed to work in the first place instead of being as slow and full of confirmation props as it was.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: MCD on October 25, 2009, 09:07:12 AM
:bow My big brother bought it for me :bow2

gonna be a very long night backing all my shit up.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 25, 2009, 04:26:54 PM
Still waiting for Media Center to add the Cable Card checking program.
I NEED A CABLE CARD READER!
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: MCD on October 26, 2009, 01:43:39 AM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/200fbd5.jpg)

:bow

just need more RAM next month.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: ManaByte on November 23, 2009, 02:17:33 AM
Can you install Windows 7 on multiple computers? I put it on my desktop PC, but can I just use my upgrade disk to upgrade my laptop also?

I want to know this too. Just upgraded tonight and it was completely painless compared to past Win upgrades. Going from 95/Me to Xp was a pain.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 23, 2009, 02:41:17 AM
IIRC the license only allows for one computer.  There's a $150 Family Pack (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/offers/windows-7-family-pack.aspx) that allows for up to three.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: ManaByte on November 23, 2009, 02:54:19 PM
Would rather use Zune software.

WMP12 detects not only all my music, but all my MP4 movies that I put on my iPod, AND allows them to be streamed to my 360.

Zune software, while it says it can play MP4 files, won't detect any when adding media. So WMP12 wins.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: pilonv1 on November 23, 2009, 11:53:21 PM
IIRC the license only allows for one computer.  There's a $150 Family Pack (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/offers/windows-7-family-pack.aspx) that allows for up to three.

I would have easily bought this, but not available in Australia, so I had to go with the Home Premium OEM
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Pringo on February 22, 2011, 03:18:19 PM
So SP1 is out today. Anyone else get it installed yet? I'm not exactly sure what all the changes are but apparently it's pretty minor compared to the service packs for previous versions of Windows.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: Groogrux on February 22, 2011, 05:44:52 PM
I've been told that it's mostly a compilation of all the Automatic Updates and then a little bit more.
Title: Re: Windows 7 thread
Post by: MCD on February 22, 2011, 10:05:31 PM
Yeah, nothing exciting.

However, it will make my life easier when reformatting new PCs.