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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Himu on December 14, 2006, 08:41:14 AM

Title: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2006, 08:41:14 AM
I've got a friend who recently had a baby a month ago and she's already back at work. I find this to be extremely surprising. I'm probably just old fashioned, but I feel it is a mother's duty to be with her child for at least 6 months.

I'm asking this because I see more and more mothers going back to work relatively close to the time frame in which their newborn is born. I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject, but it interests me. I'd like the females of Evilboria to throw in their opinion as well.

Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 14, 2006, 11:28:18 AM
Depends on her situation and if she can afford to stay home.  Of course it's best if she stays home for 6 months while the child needs her attention in those early moments, but that's just not plausible sometimes.  If they're broke, that bitch needs to go back to work ASAP.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Cyanista on December 14, 2006, 12:24:10 PM
4-6 weeks is what most jobs give you before they give your job to someone else. 
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Bacon on December 14, 2006, 12:25:25 PM
BEING A MOM IS A FULL-TIME JOB
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2006, 12:26:39 PM
4-6 weeks is what most jobs give you before they give your job to someone else. 

 :-\

Wow.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: futami on December 14, 2006, 12:32:48 PM
I've got a friend who recently had a baby a month ago and she's already back at work. I find this to be extremely surprising. I'm probably just old fashioned, but I feel it is a mother's duty to be with her child for at least 6 months.

I'm asking this because I see more and more mothers going back to work relatively close to the time frame in which their newborn is born. I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject, but it interests me. I'd like the females of Evilboria to throw in their opinion as well.



it's just another symptom of a culture that increases in its demands on the american worker.

it's not different than those who work 50+ hours a week.

we strain ourselves to forfeit so much time and energy to our employers, out of a sad need to appear industrious.

well, i told my employer i want SHORTER hours, and now only work 30 hours a week.

sure, it's a cut in my pay, one that has seen a few compromises, but my state of mind is so much more at ease.


40hours/week is excessive, imo.


Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Diablos on December 14, 2006, 12:35:48 PM
You must make some money -- how can you afford to live independently by only working 30 hours a week?
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Wobedraggled on December 14, 2006, 12:45:49 PM
6 months
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 14, 2006, 01:33:41 PM
I love working 60-70 hours a week.  My paycheck is ginormous and what else am I going to do with that time?  Watch TV?  Play games?  Sorry, I'd rather earn money and then play games later.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: MrAngryFace on December 14, 2006, 01:38:00 PM
Well Syndey Bristow on Alias got back to work right away!
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2006, 01:38:34 PM
What are the rates like in other countries like the UK or Canada?
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: futami on December 14, 2006, 01:51:45 PM
money isn't everything, and i'd rather have time to focus on my writing and appreciation of life than cram almost two weeks worth of work into a 5 day schedule.

we're essentially "rent-slaves," workers forced to toil for even basic needs. there's nothing you can say to justify it, outside of betraying a greedy lack of concern for one's own health.

diablos, like i said, you make compromises, but it's more than worth it when you realize the peace of mind it affords.


Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 14, 2006, 01:54:29 PM
Okay, I don't mind being a rent slave because it gets me things I want.  OH YEAH, SLAVES DON'T HAVE HDTV'S AND XBOX 360'S!!!  Sorry buddy, your logic is stupid.  You have to work hard for what you want.  There's nothing to justify not having enough to survive, except maybe your own laziness and stupidity.  You make your own way in this world.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2006, 01:58:22 PM
let's get back on topic guys. I don't care about his life style, I care about the topic at hand.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: futami on December 14, 2006, 02:04:52 PM
Okay, I don't mind being a rent slave because it gets me things I want.  OH YEAH, SLAVES DON'T HAVE HDTV'S AND XBOX 360'S!!!  Sorry buddy, your logic is stupid.  You have to work hard for what you want.  There's nothing to justify not having enough to survive, except maybe your own laziness and stupidity.  You make your own way in this world.

well, i have all of that (not the 360, but i have no interest in a 360) without working 40 hour weeks.

so, yeah, i'm not sure where you're going with this.

i rather like coming home and not feeling exhausted, or waking up without clamoring for 10 more minutes.

along with your greed, you reveal the narrow lens through which you view society, by labeling one who cherishes time and energy as "lazy."

i work hard at what i do, but i also know that i don't want to spend most of my week working and sleeping.

sorry, that's just not how i'm going to live out the rest of my life.

*shrug*

Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: futami on December 14, 2006, 02:05:11 PM
let's get back on topic guys. I don't care about his life style, I care about the topic at hand.

shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2006, 02:07:28 PM
let's get back on topic guys. I don't care about his life style, I care about the topic at hand.

shut the fuck up.

 :-\
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: futami on December 14, 2006, 02:14:13 PM
the scenario described by you is emblematic of the culture my current hours are PROTESTING.

they're directly linked, as the new mother you speak of feels obligated, at the expense of her health ( physical and mental), to go back to work.

in europe, you do realize that 30 hour work weeks are the norm, right?

as well, in europe, maternity leaves stretch for 3 months.

in this country, the wealthiest in the world, workers feel obligated to slave away for meaningless trinkets, completely unaware of the LIFE that is passing them by.

fuck that.

Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: FlaviusG on December 14, 2006, 02:17:26 PM
according my dyke lesbo feminist HRM prof the next day
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Flannel Boy on December 14, 2006, 02:24:27 PM

in europe, you do realize that 30 hour work weeks are the norm, right?


Well France has a 35 hour work week, which they may move back to a 39 hours. The finance minister said the move increased France's debt by 100 billion Euros and the country still has a very high unemployment rate.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: futami on December 14, 2006, 02:34:10 PM

in europe, you do realize that 30 hour work weeks are the norm, right?


Well France has a 35 hour work week, which they may move back to a 39 hours. The finance minister said the move increased France's debt by 100 billion Euros and the country still has a very high unemployment rate.

i stand corrected.

a shame they're considering moving it to 39.

it's just not healthy.

ever since i started my new hours, i'm more refreshed, with a renewed that did not exist.

if they ask me to return to 40+, i'll ask for higher pay -- otherwise, i'll leave.

i'm not going to slave for an HDTV and 360, like a certain proudly boasts of in this thread.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 14, 2006, 03:31:05 PM
well, i have all of that (not the 360, but i have no interest in a 360) without working 40 hour weeks.

so, yeah, i'm not sure where you're going with this.

i rather like coming home and not feeling exhausted, or waking up without clamoring for 10 more minutes.

along with your greed, you reveal the narrow lens through which you view society, by labeling one who cherishes time and energy as "lazy."

i work hard at what i do, but i also know that i don't want to spend most of my week working and sleeping.

sorry, that's just not how i'm going to live out the rest of my life.

*shrug*
I love how you skew my words and leave out the part where I talk about "survival."  If you can't survive, you're either too lazy or too stupid.  And sorry, I work hard but the last two years I have traveled to 12 different countries and numerous states within the US.  That IS how I want to live the rest of my life.  GET A BETTER JOB, DICK. 

And I don't "slave" for an HDTV and 360.  I earn it, there's a difference.  Slaving for it would be working 4 jobs at minimum wage.  I don't do that.  I like having nice things and I don't mind working for them.  And the harder I work, the more I move up and the more money I make and in turn, the less I have to work in the future. 

Edit: Futami, I have a hunch you're a disgruntled burger flipper.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: xnikki118x on December 14, 2006, 04:39:37 PM
My mom went right back to work after she had me as soon as the doctors cleared her, but she was a single mom.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 14, 2006, 04:42:03 PM
My mom went right back to work after she had me as soon as the doctors cleared her, but she was a single mom.
And you're a miracle baby.  :heart
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Cheebs on December 14, 2006, 05:10:16 PM
What do you do for work then? I am suprised you can make that much since you didn't go to college (well I am assuming since you are only 20 there is no way you could finish and have a full time job by now).
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Himu on December 14, 2006, 05:11:29 PM
He got his associates.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 14, 2006, 05:27:49 PM
What do you do for work then? I am suprised you can make that much since you didn't go to college (well I am assuming since you are only 20 there is no way you could finish and have a full time job by now).
I got an associates in an unrelated field.  I do corporate security.  However, my employer assisted me in additional training as well that has helped me further my career.

And I don't make a lot of money by the way.  But my job does afford me some unique experiences.  I love it.

He got his associates.
:heart
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: xnikki118x on December 15, 2006, 12:16:44 AM
My mom went right back to work after she had me as soon as the doctors cleared her, but she was a single mom.
And you're a miracle baby.  :heart

In the sense that they thought I was going to die and stuff, yes. Of course I have a father, everyone does, but my mom wouldn't have an abortion so he left her. I never met him and he doesn't know I exist.


One of my old managers came back to work 6 weeks after she had her baby girl.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: mikesphat on December 15, 2006, 12:18:57 AM
you should have my baby nikki :)
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: xnikki118x on December 15, 2006, 01:45:48 AM
Will you commit to me?
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 15, 2006, 01:48:20 AM
Will you commit to me?
I will fo sho.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: xnikki118x on December 15, 2006, 01:58:15 AM
Oh I sense a fight coming on.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 15, 2006, 02:03:49 AM
Nuh uh, Mikesphat and I go a long ways back.  It will most likely be decided on a game of rock, paper, scissors.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: xnikki118x on December 15, 2006, 02:05:08 AM
Cow, grass, apocalypse > rock, paper, scissors.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Mupepe on December 15, 2006, 02:05:37 AM
moo?
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: Flannel Boy on December 15, 2006, 02:07:00 AM
Oh yeah I didn't answer the original question yet.




As soon as the dishes are dirty.
Title: Re: How fast should a new mother go back to work?
Post by: futami on December 15, 2006, 03:52:02 AM
well, i have all of that (not the 360, but i have no interest in a 360) without working 40 hour weeks.

so, yeah, i'm not sure where you're going with this.

i rather like coming home and not feeling exhausted, or waking up without clamoring for 10 more minutes.

along with your greed, you reveal the narrow lens through which you view society, by labeling one who cherishes time and energy as "lazy."

i work hard at what i do, but i also know that i don't want to spend most of my week working and sleeping.

sorry, that's just not how i'm going to live out the rest of my life.

*shrug*
I love how you skew my words and leave out the part where I talk about "survival."  If you can't survive, you're either too lazy or too stupid.  And sorry, I work hard but the last two years I have traveled to 12 different countries and numerous states within the US.  That IS how I want to live the rest of my life.  GET A BETTER JOB, DICK. 

And I don't "slave" for an HDTV and 360.  I earn it, there's a difference.  Slaving for it would be working 4 jobs at minimum wage.  I don't do that.  I like having nice things and I don't mind working for them.  And the harder I work, the more I move up and the more money I make and in turn, the less I have to work in the future. 

Edit: Futami, I have a hunch you're a disgruntled burger flipper.


lol