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Title: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 07, 2009, 02:00:55 PM
Is Holliday going to re-up with the Cardinals? Where is Lackey going to land? Which big trades are gonna go down? Is Francoeur going to get a 3-year/$25-million contract from Omar Minaya? These are the burning questions that will be answered this offseason.

Also, Chase Utley is good.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/highs-and-lows-of-uzr-2007-9-utley

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Previously covered:
5th, Ryan Zimmerman 43.7 runs above average.
4th, Omar Vizquel 45.8 runs above average.
3rd, J.J. Hardy 48.7 runs above average.
2nd, Franklin Gutierrez 51.4 runs above average.

Tonight, the best player [FIELDER] from 2007-9: 2B Chase Utley.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: pollo on November 07, 2009, 02:03:04 PM
Maybe, if those rumors are true; Mets; Fielder for a pitcher, maybe Halladay; i'd love to see it.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 07, 2009, 02:03:43 PM
I just want my Nationals to sign a GM. :lol
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 07, 2009, 03:14:31 PM
I just want my Nationals to sign a GM. :lol

You're not the only fan of an NL East team who yearns for a GM.
/me looks at Cajole.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 07, 2009, 03:16:07 PM
Apparently the Braves signed Hudson to a 3 year deal at less than 30 million total.  Now to trade Derek Lowe to the Yankees.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Flannel Boy on November 07, 2009, 03:23:22 PM
Apparently the Braves signed Hudson to a 3 year deal at less than 30 million total.  Now to trade Derek Lowe to the Skankees.

According to Fangraphs, Lowe has been worth $13.75 million a season over the last eight years, never dipping bellow $9.3 million.

Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Ganhyun on November 07, 2009, 04:23:46 PM
Braves need to get stronger in relief pitching, and get a few more bats.

Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 07, 2009, 04:26:13 PM
You're not the only fan of an NL East team who yearns for a GM.
/me looks at Cajole.

I meant manager. I'm not quite sure why I said GM. Rizzo is decent enough.

I heard everyone pulled out, so the Nationals might have to live with their interim manager from last season - Riggleman.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Bocsius on November 07, 2009, 05:32:14 PM
In the most surprising news of the short offseason, Manny Ramirez exercised his option to be given $20 million next season.

In other surprising news, the Phillies picked up the $9 million option on Cliff Lee.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Himu on November 07, 2009, 05:34:45 PM
THE ASTROS WILL WIN THE PENNANT.

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Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: pollo on November 07, 2009, 05:43:49 PM
Apparently the Braves signed Hudson to a 3 year deal at less than 30 million total.  Now to trade Derek Lowe to the Skankees.

We do have the relief pitching, I wonder if Cash could work something out...Derek Lowe sucks nuts. Jair o bust nicca.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 07, 2009, 07:12:47 PM
Apparently the Braves signed Hudson to a 3 year deal at less than 30 million total.  Now to trade Derek Lowe to the Skankees.

We do have the relief pitching, I wonder if Cash could work something out...Derek Lowe sucks nuts. Jair o bust distinguished black fellow.

You're not getting a 23 year old star pitcher from us who is arbitration eligible for 3 more years, you asshole.  THIS is why people hate you guys.

And Mr. Lime, that's all well and good... but the Braves are paying Lowe 15 million per year and he sucked pretty bad the second half of last year.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Ganhyun on November 07, 2009, 08:06:21 PM
Apparently the Braves signed Hudson to a 3 year deal at less than 30 million total.  Now to trade Derek Lowe to the Skankees.

We do have the relief pitching, I wonder if Cash could work something out...Derek Lowe sucks nuts. Jair o bust distinguished black fellow.

You're not getting a 23 year old star pitcher from us who is arbitration eligible for 3 more years, you asshole.  THIS is why people hate you guys.

And Mr. Lime, that's all well and good... but the Braves are paying Lowe 15 million per year and he sucked pretty bad the second half of last year.

This. Please get Lowe out of here.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 07, 2009, 10:15:38 PM
Lowe for Perez and Castillo.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 08, 2009, 04:44:13 AM
Lowe for Perez and Castillo.

You know, it might almost be worth it just to not have to face Oliver Perez 3-5 times a year.  :lol

But it would never happen, since Derek Lowe isn't worth two latinos.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: pollo on November 08, 2009, 05:49:37 PM
Apparently the Braves signed Hudson to a 3 year deal at less than 30 million total.  Now to trade Derek Lowe to the Skankees.

We do have the relief pitching, I wonder if Cash could work something out...Derek Lowe sucks nuts. Jair o bust distinguished black fellow.

You're not getting a 23 year old star pitcher from us who is arbitration eligible for 3 more years, you asshole.  THIS is why people hate you guys.

And Mr. Lime, that's all well and good... but the Braves are paying Lowe 15 million per year and he sucked pretty bad the second half of last year.

Obviously I was being facetious, but no way anyone takes Lowe off your hands.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 11, 2009, 12:35:14 PM
Grffey is coming back to Seattle for 2010:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2010250884_ken_griffey_jr_will_be_a_marin.html

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Ken Griffey Jr. will be a Mariner in 2010

Posted by Larry Stone

MARK HARRISON / THE SEATTLE TIMES

Ichiro, left, and Ken Griffey Jr. slap hands as teammates carry them off the field after the team's 4-3 win over Texas put the final touches on the Mariners' turnaround season.

The official announcement probably won't come until later this morning, but Ken Griffey Jr. is coming back to the Mariners in 2010.

The outfielder, who will be 40 on Nov. 21, has reached a one-year agreement to play his 22nd year in the major leagues.

The contract figures are expected to be similar to last year, when Griffey earned $3.15 million in a contract that included incentives for attendance and playing time. His base salary in 2009 was $2 million, but it's possible the base might be slightly higher this year.

When 2009 ended for the Mariners, Griffey's future was one of their big questions, but it has now been answered.

Griffey is the fifth-leading home run hitter in major-league history with 630. He's 30 behind the next man on the list, Hall of Famer Willie Mays, whose guidance a year ago helped steer Griffey back to Seattle when he was also seriously considering the Atlanta Braves.

This time, however, the decision apparently came down to his family being OK with Griffey playing one more year, and the Mariners being comfortable with his role. Griffey is likely to have a reduced role after serving last year primarily as the team's left-handed designated hitter in a platoon with Mike Sweeney. Griffey's agent, Brian Goldberg, has said that neither money nor playing time would be an issue for his client.

Griffey was still a teenager when he broke into the majors with the Mariners in 1989, the son of former "Big Red Machine" outfielder Ken Griffey Sr. and the No. 1 pick in th e nation in 1987.

During his initial stint with the Mariner, he became one of MLB's iconic players, a featured star in Nike's ad campaigns and perennial All-Star, winning the American League's Most Valuable Player Award in 1997. He hit .304 that year with 56 homers and 147 RBIs -- one of five seasons in which he hit 45 or more home runs. He also participated in the signature moment in franchise history, scoring the winning run from first base on Edgar Martinez's double in the cllinching game of the 1995 Division Series against the Yankees at the Kingdome.

However, after the 1999 season, Griffey requested a trade to be closer to his family, and was eventually dealt to the Cincinnati Reds in a deal that brought Mike Cameron , Brett Tomko, Antonio Perez and Jake Meyer to the Mariners.

Griffey's second stint with the Mariners may have been set in motion in June of 2007, when he received a hero's welcome during a three-game interleague series between Seattle and Cincinnati at Safeco Field.

Last year, Griffey's fate remained undecided until after spring training opened, but on Feb. 21, he chose the Mariners over the Braves. Griffey was given considerable credit for improving a clubhouse that had been riddled with dissension the previous year.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 11, 2009, 12:55:05 PM
I like how that article completely didn't mention his stats from last year.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 11, 2009, 01:03:38 PM
This one does.

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Griffey returning for one more year

Sources with the Seattle Mariners have confirmed earlier reports that Ken Griffey Jr. has reached agreement on a deal that will bring him back for one more season.

An official announcement is expected Wednesday afternoon.

Griffey, who turns 40 on Nov. 21, hit .214 with 19 home runs and 57 RBIs while splitting time with Mike Sweeney as the Mariners' designated hitter in 2009.

At the end of last season, Griffey said he would like to return if the Mariners wanted him back, so the news doesn't come at a huge shock. But it likely will raise further debate over whether the team should be looking to get younger or if Griffey's presence outweighs his declining offensive production.

My take is that Griffey handled a reduced role in surprisingly good fashion last year and can help a young club with his veteran counsel, even if he isn't the feared slugger of old.

And it doesn't hurt to have a guy on your bench with some left-handed pop, as he continued to display last year.

Given Griffey's willingness to accept a small salary and whatever role the Mariners need, this one seems like a no-brainer. The man is the best player in franchise history. Having him remain part of that franchise is nothing but a positive.
Title: Re: Official 'Bore MLB Offseason Thread of Having False Hope For Next Year
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 24, 2009, 03:57:51 PM
The BBWAA got all the big awards right! Get your fallout shelters ready!