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Title: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on November 12, 2009, 07:02:02 PM
I haven't really seen much gameplay of this, I'm surprised how good it's looking.  I think I've gone from "I'll keep it in mind" to "I'll probably get it".

Part 1 - http://www.gametrailers.com/video/open-world-the-saboteur/58947
Part 2 - http://www.gametrailers.com/video/open-world-the-saboteur/58949

I like all the perks and upgrades and stuff, had no idea that was in it.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on November 12, 2009, 07:07:06 PM
I'm glad you posted this. Now I can post this

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/the-saboteur/achievements/
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2009, 07:08:38 PM
I'm glad you posted this. Now I can post this

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/the-saboteur/achievements/

Where is the achievement for seeing nudity in a X360 game?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on November 12, 2009, 07:09:05 PM
There are secret achievements...
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on November 12, 2009, 07:12:36 PM
Where is the achievement for seeing nudity in a X360 game?

In your pants.

Achievements look good.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on November 12, 2009, 07:20:13 PM
Here's some excitement. :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/escalation-levels-the-saboteur/58951
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on November 12, 2009, 07:31:04 PM
That's fair enough.  I'm not into typical war games so I like the fantasy element.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bebpo on November 12, 2009, 07:40:20 PM
Here's some excitement. :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/escalation-levels-the-saboteur/58951

Too much shooting :(  Not really my kind of game.

I like the stealth and think up creative situations to complete the mission aspect.  But not really interested in the gunplay.  Also the lack of color outside certain objects makes the whole game look drab and dull.  :\
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Yeti on November 12, 2009, 10:54:14 PM
Here's some excitement. :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/escalation-levels-the-saboteur/58951

Too much shooting :(  Not really my kind of game.

I like the stealth and think up creative situations to complete the mission aspect.  But not really interested in the gunplay.  Also the lack of color outside certain objects makes the whole game look drab and dull.  :\


I imagine Nazi occupied France was pretty drab and dull.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: iconoclast on November 13, 2009, 02:23:57 AM
The GiantBomb Quick Look EX (http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-ex-the-saboteur/17-1597/) looked pretty good too. This game was completely off my radar before, but that peaked my interest. I'll pick it up after it bombs.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: bork on November 13, 2009, 02:48:58 AM
The GiantBomb Quick Look EX (http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-ex-the-saboteur/17-1597/) looked pretty good too. This game was completely off my radar before, but that peaked my interest. I'll pick it up after it bombs.

That was great.   :o  Definitely on my radar now.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on November 14, 2009, 03:01:10 AM
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Brehvolution on November 14, 2009, 06:21:08 PM
Pretty cool. I didn't know much about it til now.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on November 14, 2009, 07:19:19 PM
Here's some excitement. :)

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/escalation-levels-the-saboteur/58951

Too much shooting :(  Not really my kind of game.

I like the stealth and think up creative situations to complete the mission aspect.  But not really interested in the gunplay.  Also the lack of color outside certain objects makes the whole game look drab and dull.  :\

The lack of color is an in-game indicator of status; everything starts black/white/red and then moves back to color as you liberate or inspire areas, IIRC. I'm looking forward to it...!
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 17, 2009, 11:43:19 AM
Devteam shitcanned; project passed off to Montreal
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2009, 11:58:52 AM
Sadly it doesn't look that bad. Looks kinda interesting although no one is gonna buy it.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2009, 12:01:40 PM
Devteam shitcanned; project passed off to Montreal

Isn't the game done since it's shipping soon?  And the team just got fired today?
I don't see what Montreal will be doing other than DLC.  Or post-game patches (lol, yeah right).

Anyhow sucks for Pandemic, I never really got into the Mercs games, but at least they had good ideas.  Guess no Mercs 3; though Mercs 2 bombing probably cemented that.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on November 17, 2009, 05:28:03 PM
Sucks for all those people out of a job.  I hope the game doesn't go to shit at least.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: bork on November 17, 2009, 05:32:28 PM
Mercenaries 2 was glitchy and just not particularly well-made; it lacked polish and had tons of problems.  But the Saboteur looks really good.

Sadly it doesn't look that bad. Looks kinda interesting although no one is gonna buy it.

That's the thing...I see no reason to buy this at release, since it will inevitably bomb hard.  Unless Amazon or some other place has a deal, I will pass until it gets discounted, or unless there's people raving about how awesome it is.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on November 17, 2009, 06:38:28 PM
Screw you guys, I'm buying at launch if it's good.

:american
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2009, 11:53:19 PM
See, that's the problem with games like these. Everybody just waits until the game tanks and there's no sequel and people get fired(in this case it happened before the title was released).

225k+ people bought Brutal Legend!
That's 2x the amount of people who bought Ratchet #83843

Borderlands did huge.  Bioshock did huge.

There is a way to get sales on an original IP.  I'm not sure what it is, but marketing is not my job!
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: bork on November 18, 2009, 12:06:38 AM
See, that's the problem with games like these. Everybody just waits until the game tanks and there's no sequel and people get fired(in this case it happened before the title was released).

225k+ people bought Brutal Legend!
That's 2x the amount of people who bought Ratchet #83843

Borderlands did huge.  Bioshock did huge.

There is a way to get sales on an original IP.  I'm not sure what it is, but marketing is not my job!

B-b-b-but Jack Black on Jimmy Fallon!
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on November 18, 2009, 12:15:16 AM
See, that's the problem with games like these. Everybody just waits until the game tanks and there's no sequel and people get fired(in this case it happened before the title was released).

225k+ people bought Brutal Legend!
That's 2x the amount of people who bought Ratchet #83843

Borderlands did huge.  Bioshock did huge.

There is a way to get sales on an original IP.  I'm not sure what it is, but marketing is not my job!

Uh, its simple. Make a fucking good game. BRUTAL LEGEND IS NOT A GOOD GAME

What is so difficult for you Schafertards to understand?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bebpo on November 18, 2009, 12:17:24 AM
See, that's the problem with games like these. Everybody just waits until the game tanks and there's no sequel and people get fired(in this case it happened before the title was released).

225k+ people bought Brutal Legend!
That's 2x the amount of people who bought Ratchet #83843

Borderlands did huge.  Bioshock did huge.

There is a way to get sales on an original IP.  I'm not sure what it is, but marketing is not my job!

Uh, its simple. Make a fucking good game. BRUTAL LEGEND IS NOT A GOOD GAME

What is so difficult for you Schafertards to understand?

Ummm...I was saying Brutal Legend sold ok.  I mean it's bomba for EA, but that's a lot of people who bought it day 1 despite green man saying no one buys these games day 1.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on November 18, 2009, 01:30:15 AM
You just asked if there was a way to get sales on an original IP, and I told you
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on November 18, 2009, 03:05:25 AM
See, that's the problem with games like these. Everybody just waits until the game tanks and there's no sequel and people get fired(in this case it happened before the title was released).

225k+ people bought Brutal Legend!
That's 2x the amount of people who bought Ratchet #83843

Borderlands did huge.  Bioshock did huge.

There is a way to get sales on an original IP.  I'm not sure what it is, but marketing is not my job!

It's also twice the numbers DJ Hero did, which makes me sad for that franchise despite Activision inheriting the EA Crown of Evil and wearing it at every turn.


Uh, its simple. Make a fucking good game. BRUTAL LEGEND IS NOT A GOOD GAME

What is so difficult for you Schafertards to understand?

Brutal Legend /is/ a good game. It has a couple flaws that don't show up until the mid-game, but they're not dealbreakers. Reviews are favorable, and there was big public awareness of the title.

Barely over 200K units is excellent if you're selling a Tetris clone or another Bejewelled rip-off. If you're a medium-sized dev studio that's spent the last 5 years on it, those numbers aren't going to keep your doors open. With all the marketing money and PR effort spent on Brutal Legend, the only reasons for it to sell so few units would be a risk-averse public, or going nearly head to head with a major title -- there's MW2, though I can't imagine a lot of demographic overlap.

Mercs 1 was amazing, but Mercs 2 was a near-parody of the gameplay experience offered in its predecessor. If Saboteur was from the Mercs 2 team, we'll know soon enough from official reviews discussing its bugginess, surprisingly unimpressive graphics, and poorly tuned gameplay. I feel bad for any dev team that gets canned after shipping a game, but if this turns out to be on Mercs 2 quality level, it is time to break that team apart.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: bork on November 18, 2009, 03:26:57 AM
Mercs 1 was amazing, but Mercs 2 was a near-parody of the gameplay experience offered in its predecessor. If Saboteur was from the Mercs 2 team, we'll know soon enough from official reviews discussing its bugginess, surprisingly unimpressive graphics, and poorly tuned gameplay. I feel bad for any dev team that gets canned after shipping a game, but if this turns out to be on Mercs 2 quality level, it is time to break that team apart.

Amen.  Wish I'd played Mercs 1 instead of Mercs 2.   :-\
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 02, 2009, 02:34:52 AM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1051051p1.html
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on December 02, 2009, 08:11:32 PM
Sounds good.

9.0   Presentation
We really liked the stark contrast between occupied and free zones – as unsubtle as it is. Good menus, and the Perks screen comes complete with ‘authentic’ Irish comments from the big man himself.
7.5    Graphics
The graphics are a little jaggy, and there were a few frame-rate issues but, for the most part, this is a perfectly acceptable-looking game. Workmanlike, you might say.
7.0    Sound
Voice acting is pretty sketchy, but grows on you, much like the (deliberately?) bad efforts from the cast of ‘Allo ‘Allo. The music goes a long way to making up for the bad acting though.
8.0    Gameplay
This is one of those games that grows on you as you progress, even if you think it shouldn’t. The simple fact is that blowing stuff up is heaps of fun, and The Saboteur has HEAPS of stuff to blow up.
7.5    Lasting Appeal
This is a single playthrough affair, but there’s a huge amount of content to plough through that isn’t directly linked to the main story.
8.2
Impressive    OVERALL

:elephant
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 02, 2009, 09:16:21 PM
Wonder what the superior PC version will be like :drool
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: cool breeze on December 02, 2009, 09:24:47 PM
Wonder what the superior PC version will be like :drool

It's been leaked for about two days now on both PC and 360.  I don't know if I want to buy it at release, wait for a demo or wait for a price drop.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on December 02, 2009, 09:32:45 PM
Wonder what the superior PC version will be like :drool

Crashes on ATI
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 02, 2009, 09:56:21 PM
i'll get this instead of assasins creed 2
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bebpo on December 02, 2009, 11:31:36 PM
i'll get this instead of assasins creed 2

WHAT

Noooooooooooooooooooo


I hated AC1; 6/10 terrible game with nice looking 3d cities to do nothing in.
AC2 is SO GOOD.  LOVE FOR LONG TIME.

Play AC2! 
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 03, 2009, 12:34:57 AM
It's ok, I'm just going to borrow AC2 from my brother
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bebpo on December 03, 2009, 12:37:18 AM
oh, ok.  Yeah that's fine.

Plus your contribution keeps EA in business a little longer so they can pump more money into original IPs before they go bankrupt!
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 02:56:30 PM
I like how IGN gives three reviews that range from Good, to Average, to Shit.
I get and am totally down with the concept of differing opinions of games and would like to see more of that but from a site like IGN it still strikes me as odd.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1051540p1.html
7.5 IGN America

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1051081p1.html
6.2 IGN UK

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1051051p1.html
8.2 IGN AU
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on December 03, 2009, 03:47:01 PM
You might find this shocking Green Man, being an upstanding journalist yourself, but the US and UK and AUS are not the same and may have content differences, and should be considered different reviews. Each region may also release titles only available in that region.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on December 03, 2009, 04:46:07 PM
I like how IGN gives three reviews that range from Good, to Average, to Shit.

:lol

For what it's worth, from the few reviews I've seen in the past IGN AU seems the least melodramatic, not going crazy-high or crazy-low.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on December 03, 2009, 05:11:22 PM
Apparently you dont get tits unless you buy the game new, or you have to pay $5 to unlock titties.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: SantaC on December 03, 2009, 06:21:22 PM
I like how IGN gives three reviews that range from Good, to Average, to Shit.
I get and am totally down with the concept of differing opinions of games and would like to see more of that but from a site like IGN it still strikes me as odd.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1051540p1.html
7.5 IGN America

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1051081p1.html
6.2 IGN UK

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1051051p1.html
8.2 IGN AU

a 7.5 from IGN is like a 3/10 from another review site.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 03, 2009, 07:21:34 PM
Yurogamer gave it 6/10.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 03, 2009, 11:50:15 PM
Metacritic's averaging 71 right now.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on December 04, 2009, 12:05:26 AM
I'd like to see a Gametrailers review.  I like their reviews.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 04, 2009, 12:26:45 AM
From the Wired review (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/12/review-the-saboteur/):
Quote
   For  example,  you  can sneak up on a Nazi, kill him silently and take
   his  uniform  as  a  disguise.  But  even  if  the  stealth kill works
   (sometimes  it just doesn't happen), it doesn't much matter if another
   guard witnesses the bloodbath. The other guards show up on your radar,
   except  when  they  don't.  It's  hard  to  know if you're going to be
   spotted,  and  I  became  an expert at executing the move that is most
   crucial  to success at stealth: Pause the game and hit the button that
   sends you back to the last checkpoint.
Sounds like Mercs 2 levels of quality, and quality assurance.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: bork on December 04, 2009, 12:35:37 AM
There was some reviewer on GAF who said the game was very similar to Mercs 2 in the way it played a few weeks back.  That was enough to stop me from getting it at launch.  Will wait for bomb.  Maybe I'll pick it up at $20.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 04, 2009, 12:52:49 AM
http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-the-saboteur/17-1726/
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on December 04, 2009, 12:57:34 AM
I think AC2 was all the open world I needed for a bit.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 05, 2009, 01:50:13 AM
I'd like to see a Gametrailers review.  I like their reviews.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-the-saboteur/59726
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2009, 12:43:09 PM
There was some reviewer on GAF who said the game was very similar to Mercs 2 in the way it played a few weeks back.  That was enough to stop me from getting it at launch.  Will wait for bomb.  Maybe I'll pick it up at $20.

Crap. I didn't even want to be right about that. When I heard "unsatisfying driving mechanics" and "inconsistent AI" it made me think that way, even as I hoped to be wrong.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: duckman2000 on December 05, 2009, 03:17:36 PM
Between Infamous and Assassin's Creed II, an "open world" game would have to be real good for me to give a damn right now. Linear games only until Crackdown 2. It's a shame there hasn't been a solid stealth game with an underground WWII resistance theme.

By the way, is that the dude from Bioshock?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: cool breeze on December 05, 2009, 04:43:50 PM
yeah, that's my feeling right now.  The Saboteur seems alright, but I have no shortage of games to play (especially when I have no time to play them because of finals).  Mercs 2 dropped to $10 (and less) in less than a year, so I'll probably just wait for that to happen here. 
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 07, 2009, 05:28:16 PM
Asia-region Mercs 2 was 1990 yen within 3 months of launch here. I bought at launch, full price.  :'(

Saboteur is a March purchase at best right now. Or Best Buy, amirite?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on December 07, 2009, 06:03:04 PM
It seems good enough that I'll probably pick it up around February.

January is Bayonetta and March is Just Cause 2 (I think).
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: dark1x on December 08, 2009, 07:42:11 AM
PC version, by the way, runs like absolute dog shit.  It feels completely unoptimized and thrown together.  Even worse, the 360 controller support is spotty due to the fact that it doesn't even take a dead zone into account.  If the stick is even just a millimeter off center, your character is going to move.  This also makes menu navigation a pain in the ass.

I suppose it's not too bad with the mouse and keyboard as the framerate fluctuations feel less bothersome when using a mouse.  From what I've read, even super high-end PCs are having a hard time getting a constant framerate.  :\

Not a smooth game at all nor a particularly good looking game.  It's a shame that these open world games always seem to get such terrible PC ports.  I still can't play Red Faction Guerrilla on the PC due to the fact that it runs too fast (the sound is also screwed up).

Anyone interested in playing this would probably be better off waiting for the console versions to drop in price as they seem to run much smoother overall (more consistent).
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: cool breeze on December 08, 2009, 04:31:25 PM
this game already dropped to $50 for consoles

seems like the drop is coming fast and hard
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 08, 2009, 04:32:30 PM
Is it even out yet?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 08, 2009, 04:37:13 PM
Is it even out yet?

It came out today.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 08, 2009, 06:41:48 PM
Is it even out yet?

It came out today.
So it launched at US$50?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 08, 2009, 06:54:36 PM
Best Buy had it for $50, it's still retail in some places.  I used some reward certificates and picked it up for $35.  I'm digging it so far.  The game opens with french titties right smack dab in your face, so it was heartwarming from moment one.  The soundtrack is awesome (but not really 1940s, more along the lines of 1950s Jazz).  Driving's a tiny bit off, but you get used to it once you learn to use the camera control with a light touch. 
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: maxy on December 10, 2009, 06:05:21 AM
Quote
The PC version of stealthy openworld World War II game The Saboteur does not work with ATI graphics cards. At all.

Official game forums are awash with complaints (spotted by Kotaku), so much so that digital distributor Direct2Drive now carries a warning for all prospective buyers.

EA is apparently "digging into the issue" and has found a workaround to enable The Saboteur to run while a proper fix is found.

This, not ideally, involves turning multiple CPU support off. To find out how this is done check The Saboteur "ATI Graphic Issues" forum post.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/pc-saboteur-sabotaged-by-ati-cards (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/pc-saboteur-sabotaged-by-ati-cards)

 :rofl
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: demi on December 10, 2009, 11:53:13 AM
Who will fix it as the company that made this game is no more?

It got shuffled to EA Montreal or something. Theres also some Pandemic people at EA LA...
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 11, 2009, 11:53:40 AM
Blerg, this game not so good
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 12, 2009, 07:49:08 AM
Blerg, this game not so good
After Crackdown, Saints Row 1&2, Mercenaries 2, and a good portion of GTA, I think you and I tend to be pretty close to the same opinion on open world games, so please elaborate.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 12, 2009, 07:06:42 PM
:rofl the accents
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 15, 2009, 07:45:57 AM
I'm afraid after seeing Inglourious Basterds, anything about a guerrilla force in Nazi-occupied France is just going to seem like utter shit.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 16, 2009, 06:02:57 PM
not very
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 16, 2009, 11:06:00 PM
Can you kill someone with a baguette? What about eclairs?

...Most importantly, is there a difference between killing someone with a baguette and an eclair?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 22, 2009, 05:48:44 AM
Blerg, this game not so good

It's not great but the overall is better than the sum of the parts. Good may be stretching it a little but then it's not bad.

The story is so fucking terrible, and the voices make it offensive. For the first 1 hour its funny because they're so bad, and as one review said it's like a bad episode of Allo Allo. But then they get serious and I just want to skip them instantly now.

Mid mission checkpoints are totally at the wrong point, they'll often put you in an open room filled with guards. The shooting is fucking shithouse, to the point where I just run and melee people. Sneaking is a better option because you wont have to deal with people and the sneak skills are at least useful.

If you're seen, you may as well restart because it's fucking ON if you get caught and the whole Nazi army is after you. Then if you run or get far enough away they all stop instantly. The best are the Guestapo officers who are TRAINED to see through your disguises instantly. You can stealth kill a guy, steal his clothes and leave the body in the open and no one will care.

There is literally 1000000000000 things on the map to do. Some of them are just scenic points you climb to, but if you're obsessive compulsive and Red Faction didn't have enough to do you may like this.

THE FUCKING MAP. It takes THREE BUTTON PRESSES to get to a zoomable map. IN 2009. At least it has waypoints.

If you took the most average parts of Hitman, GTA, Red Faction and Assasins Creed and made a game you'd have this. I dont know what is compelling me to play this, probably the setting and using explosives on a nazi tower and seeing it explode is sort of fun. If I could just blow up stuff and not have as many guards chase me it would be more fun.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 22, 2009, 07:29:41 AM
Thanks for the review. Sadly, I'm going to avoid this even if I find it on sale now. The comment you made about taking the most mediocre bits of those other games... it has robbed me of my will to play it entirely.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 22, 2009, 08:22:16 AM
It's not terrible, and if it was $20 it's some mindless fun. It's just unfocused, no section of the game is really great that makes you want to keep playing. Reminds me a lot of Just Cause if you took out the stunts. There's really no reason for this to be an open world game.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 22, 2009, 08:45:59 PM
Yeah, but there's so much GOOD stuff out there, I'm hard-pressed to spend time on a game that's "not terrible." Esp. with my near-OCD tendencies! I'm still half-tempted to put Disney's Bolt back in to get the last couple of 'cheevs there. :-/

After the original Mercenaries title, Pandemic shot up to one of my favorite developers. It just took one title to see how they adapted one of my favorite formulas to apply to a whole new setting, and made changes that fit the context so well. I'm easy to win over; just one game formed my opinion of the company as a whole.

Then I played Destroy All Humans, and a hard time believing that it was the same company. The engine looked similar, but with all the opportunities wasted for innovation, and the unbalanced gameplay (I was horribly bored most of the time, and suddenly the difficulty spiked once I hit the Area 51 region). Strike one.

With the announcement of Mercs 2, I was so hopeful that it would be a worthy sequel, but it was riddled with bugs and broken gameplay. Strike two? I guess so. I was really saddened by how badly they messed up what should have been a no-brainer.

It's not fair to count a demo, but Middle Earth: Conquest that Lord of the Rings Battlefront game was also a big sign that the studio didn't have a lot of juice. Maybe Mercs was a one-hit wonder.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: bork on December 22, 2009, 09:45:29 PM
I really wanted to get the Saboteur, but I'm not going to even consider it until it's around the $10 mark.  Something tells me I probably won't care by then.

How was Velvet Assassin in comparison?  It's $20 now.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 22, 2009, 10:01:38 PM
Velvet Assassin would be the worst use of $20 ever.

Did they fix the ATI problems yet?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on December 22, 2009, 10:04:24 PM
I really wanted to get the Saboteur, but I'm not going to even consider it until it's around the $10 mark.  Something tells me I probably won't care by then.

I'm thinking this will be me.  Shame, because it seems to have had some good ideas.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 22, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
It does, but they're just poorly implemented. The setting is fantastic but it rarely does anything exciting with it. Except for the boss fight inside a zepplin thats on fire.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 22, 2009, 11:02:31 PM
It does, but they're just poorly implemented. The setting is fantastic but it rarely does anything exciting with it. Except for the boss fight inside a zepplin thats on fire.
Now, see, with Brutal Legend you can SUMMON a flaming zeppelin into any boss fight you like.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 22, 2009, 11:06:59 PM
i liked it

it's no more glitchy than any other open world game i've played

plus it has style and atmosphere to spare

the nazis do notice dead bodies, btw
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: pilonv1 on December 23, 2009, 08:37:08 PM
That's a good point - there's no game breaking bugs or glitches, just the usual you'd expect from an open world game.

The one level where you have to get to the mausoleum, I took a guy down in the open and stole his clothes and no one ever noticed. That's my sole data point for not noticing bodies, since 99% of the time I dont kill anyone because the alarms go off so quickly.

The style and atmosphere are killed to me by the horrible voices. It just ruins the game. Plus everything Sean says is either :drake or :maf , there's no in between.
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: Bildi on December 23, 2009, 09:04:40 PM
So his personality is twice as diverse as :drake?
Title: Re: Saboteur open world gameplay walkthrough
Post by: chronovore on December 23, 2009, 11:19:19 PM
So his personality is twice as diverse as :drake?
:lol

But there are depths to smugness. You can either be Han Solo or Howard Trump or Ivan Drago. Or Errol Flynn!

One thing I've enjoyed about The Force Unleashed is the depth of Starkiller's character. There's quite a range of emotion, including vulnerability and sadness in Witwer's portrayal, particularly considering he's a villain who goes around killing the last traces of nobility in the galaxy.

If Saboteur has no bugs, it's already a better game than Mercs 2, so I'm interested again.
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