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Title: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 05:05:31 AM
*waits impatiently for mailman*
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on November 17, 2009, 06:07:54 AM
after how terrible MW2 is I'm strangely looking forward to this

but i bet within 2 hours I will be cursing up a storm
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 06:20:08 AM
MW2 was/is fuck amazing.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 08:08:21 AM
Worst official thread ever.

ur lame
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 08:08:49 AM
great, distinguished mentally-challenged desmondo guy with his blonde bitch.

totally forgot about them and thought i will be playing as a badass assassin right from the start.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 08:12:13 AM
Fucking spoilers you distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. God damn
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 08:13:36 AM
they just died.

fuck this game is amazing.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 08:51:38 AM
young guy and his sexual needs.

assassin's creed 2.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 08:57:11 AM
i am not an assassin yet and i can climb whatever i want.

kinda distinguished mentally-challenged but can't complain if i can avoid trouble this way.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 10:09:58 AM
DEMI-SAN

before i go deeper in this shit, are there missable achievements like 1?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 10:41:40 AM
I am perfectly fine, thank you.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 11:13:44 AM
what's in it for me?

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 17, 2009, 11:18:05 AM
Will wait for the price drop. That and as much as I loved it, I still haven't beat the first one.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 11:20:21 AM
You can replace demi as admin. It's ok I'll allow it.
that's better than demi's offer.

unfortunately you were too late.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on November 17, 2009, 12:09:01 PM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/104/1045745p1.html
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-assassins-creed/58371
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/assassins-creed-ii-console-review
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/assassinscreed2/review.html
http://www.edge-online.com/magazine/review-assassins-creed-ii
http://gameinformer.com/games/assassins_creed_ii/b/ps3/archive/2009/11/17/review.aspx
http://www.giantbomb.com/assassins-creed-ii/61-22928/reviews/
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
Been playing it a lot and the verdict is...really good

First 15 or so minutes are bit crappy,but once you get to Florence... :omg
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 12:53:06 PM
they should have dropped this scifi bullshit though.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 12:59:16 PM
the people outside the animus "talk" to you while you do some puzzles so maybe i won't get pulled out of the animus whenever i beat some boss.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on November 17, 2009, 01:35:38 PM
Sounds good, will rent.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 17, 2009, 03:36:57 PM
Pretty good stuff so far.  I hit the A button about 10 minutes ago and he's doing all the platforming and fighting on his own, so I think I'll go JO for a bit while it finishes up.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 17, 2009, 04:11:52 PM
*waits patiently for the superior PC version*
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2009, 04:12:18 PM
IT'S ME, MARIO!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 04:12:36 PM
Joe, don't be offended but I jerked off to your photo before.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 17, 2009, 04:14:54 PM
So have I.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
That's hot bro. I think you're super fucking hot.
Title: Re: Ass Crud 2
Post by: bork on November 17, 2009, 04:37:10 PM
So, better than the original?  All the reviews saying that it really does fix up the issues the first game had (which sounds like everything I hated about it) have me interested.  Maybe I should dump Episodes From Liberty City and get this instead.

Quote from: beast786
IGN AU Review
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/104/1046020p2.html (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/104/1046020p2.html)

"In terms of engine quality, however, the difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions is literally night and day. Starting with the shocking difference in contrast and colour depth, the Xbox 360 version's high-dynamic range lighting is more intense and casts deeper shadows and renders a darker night. In our direct comparisons between the two games, the PS3 version looks noticeably flatter and more washed out, detracting from the ambience.


Assassin's Creed II might get muddled in its storytelling, but it's one heck of an adventure along the way.
The PS3 version also suffers from a lower texture resolution, which affects everything from facial details (you can see freckles and pores on the 360, but faces, lips and hair looks almost universally blurry on PS3), to wall and ground textures, leaves and particle and debris effects.

I know it's almost passé to rag on the differences, but it really does surprise us how large the gap between the two versions is."

Seriously. Is that true? :(

LOL.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on November 17, 2009, 04:50:05 PM
PS3 version is literally night and 360 version is literally day.  Got it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 05:12:30 PM
Got my copy. Had a scare with UPS not delivering, but it was at the main apartment office.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2009, 05:14:49 PM
Finished the game,game is awesome...i want a sequel now

Assassin is such a badass...one mean killing machine...double blade-super awesome weapon

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on November 17, 2009, 05:22:09 PM
I'm holding off on playing until my Christmas holidays when I have a good amount of time to devote to it.

:'(
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 17, 2009, 05:23:19 PM
Single-player game = Postponed until I blast my way through the backlog
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 17, 2009, 05:25:12 PM
Finished the game

so it's a rental, then
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2009, 05:26:28 PM
So does this game deliver where the original failed? The original was pretty good, but it quickly became too repetitive.

Most importantly, does this game have SUBTITLES? Because I'm boycotting unless it does!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: maxy on November 17, 2009, 05:52:09 PM
Finished the game

so it's a rental, then

Well,my time played is 25:34,i didn't rush too much,but i still have a ton of things to explore and do,contract assassinations,beating cheating husbands,delivering some letters,etc...its a huge game

So does this game deliver where the original failed? The original was pretty good, but it quickly became too repetitive.

Most importantly, does this game have SUBTITLES? Because I'm boycotting unless it does!

Game has SUBTITLES.

Compared to the first one,this is a game,it has beginning,story,ending...



Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 05:54:03 PM
Shaun's a dickhead, I hope the plottwist is that he's the bad guy.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Himu on November 17, 2009, 06:02:04 PM
Game has SUBTITLES.

YES

PC version gogoog
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 06:04:53 PM
This game looks worse than AC1.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 06:48:17 PM
I miss that nice sound that plays when you collect a flag or do a viewpoint from the first one.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 17, 2009, 06:57:22 PM
Finished the game

so it's a rental, then

Well,my time played is 25:34,i didn't rush too much,but i still have a ton of things to explore and do,contract assassinations,beating cheating husbands,delivering some letters,etc...its a huge game


Oh shit, nevermind then. Maybe I'll buy this like...tonight. I have to urge to buy something to fill my void.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 17, 2009, 09:33:39 PM
I like the idea behind uPlay, but... its pretty lacking.

Oh and dont buy the theme, lol. It's just a shitty JPEG image, not a premium.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 17, 2009, 11:43:32 PM
how do i save in this friggin' game, i have left 4 dead 2 to play
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 18, 2009, 12:06:05 AM
how do i save in this friggin' game, i have left 4 dead 2 to play
it auto save but just to be sure, start --> quit.

This game looks worse than AC1.
but there is day/night cycle so it's better.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 18, 2009, 12:10:06 AM
how do i save in this friggin' game, i have left 4 dead 2 to play

It auto saves after missions or opening a random treasure or getting a feather and all types of ill shit
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on November 18, 2009, 12:19:57 AM
are there more missions where you can kill a dude without being seen? not really into the assasinate a guy and then fight 40 people on the way out
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 18, 2009, 12:22:45 AM
The first assasination mission is pretty much that : (

The game is like one huge tutorial so far. I'm still getting taught shit
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2009, 12:50:47 AM
Does this game have a recap for those who didn't beat the first
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 18, 2009, 12:52:56 AM
a shitty one minute recap which leaves you more confused.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Himu on November 18, 2009, 12:53:06 AM
goddamit
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 18, 2009, 12:53:17 AM
Eh... kinda. It just has Desmond going "Derp a derp, I learned about Templars and the Apple of Eden and BAD STUFF BAD JUJU I HAVE TO GET OUT"

Then it starts
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 18, 2009, 01:15:43 AM
does anyone really care about the story

answer: no-one who matters, get to the assassinificatatin'
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 18, 2009, 01:49:06 PM
spent whole day playing this, pretty enjoyable.

so far i think i can get all the achievements except for the feather shit, not marked on the map. :(

more impressionale:

they should have made a whole new combat system because so far this is the same just with more weapons which are probably slower than the hidden blades for quick counter kill.

other than that though game is AC done right and then more.

plus i am pretty deep in the story quests and no interruptions from the guys outside the animus so far.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 18, 2009, 03:54:25 PM
This game is much better than the first. But it's not really so much Assassin's Creed now. It's like...

Assassin of Persia

Hooray for arbitrary catacomb crawling. This wasn't ripped from Prince of Persia...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 18, 2009, 04:01:53 PM
it's similar to that cave level in the original game when you first play as altair.

so far i only liked one, that big church in florence because the platforming in it was awesome. the others were just stab this guy and move forward zzz.

also:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18535831&postcount=1555
Quote from: Blimblim
Some interesting infos:
 - The villa level and the stuff you can do in it was developed by Ubisoft Annecy.
 - The Catacomb/PoP-like levels were done by Ubisoft Shanghai.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: CajoleJuice on November 19, 2009, 01:41:10 AM
It'sa me Mario!

I lol'd.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 19, 2009, 02:03:15 PM
This game is awesome so far.  Renaissance era Italy is so much more fun to run around in than the locations from the first game.  The main character is also more interesting because he deals with ye olde booty calls, finding feathers for his gender confused younger brother, robbing and beating up people for fun.

Only thing I hate is how they keep cutting in Italian between Italian accented English.  I hate that stuff in games, movies, etc.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 19, 2009, 04:05:13 PM
Only thing I hate is how they keep cutting in Italian between Italian accented English.  I hate that stuff in games, movies, etc.

They explain that
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 19, 2009, 05:32:51 PM
Only thing I hate is how they keep cutting in Italian between Italian accented English.  I hate that stuff in games, movies, etc.

They explain that

I either missed it or it hasn't come up yet

and Ezio is a badass compared to Altair.  You can wreck guys with the hidden blade as if it was a main weapon, and you can super wreck people with a sword.  Grab and slit throat :rock
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 19, 2009, 05:42:30 PM
It's way later.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 20, 2009, 01:55:09 AM
Finished!

What a mindfuck ending. Like a nice fucking LOST finale. I am so stoked for the finale (assuming AC3 is the final game).

Just need all the feathers and wear the Auditore cape (earned at 100 feathers) around the game and I am 1000.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 20, 2009, 05:38:18 PM
Must buy fo sho. But you arent allowed until you finish Borderlands with me. Dont get any ideas daddy boo
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on November 20, 2009, 06:40:39 PM
gamecrazy has a trade-in deal for mvp's that'll probably make blow my money.  It's kind of annoying that this was released just a couple weeks the shopping season.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 20, 2009, 06:50:10 PM
Why would you buy stuff for other people? :lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: iconoclast on November 20, 2009, 07:03:41 PM
What did you think of the first AC demi? I see a lot of people who thought the first game sucked saying AC2 is great. Maybe I'll pick it up after I get a new 360.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 20, 2009, 07:06:51 PM
Boring, repetitive, yawn, flags
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 20, 2009, 09:59:55 PM
the ending :lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on November 20, 2009, 11:23:24 PM
Why would you buy stuff for other people? :lol
no I'm saying that this game is probably going to be $40 by the end of the year but I don't have the patience to wait.  it's annoying how all triple a games come out at the same time making you want to do a bunch of impulse buys.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 21, 2009, 01:49:34 AM
If this game didn't have so many visual problems (tearing, frame rate, pop in), I would say it looks better than Uncharted   
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on November 21, 2009, 07:09:39 AM
I played a lot of the first game, completed the DNA chains, but could not muster the energy for the flags. AC1 singlehandedly broke my will to do collection Achievements. Anymore, unless they're marked on a map like in BULLY or there is an online map of superlative quality, I am so, so done with that kind of crap.

Also could not stand the "therapy" sessions even though I'm fond of that Veronica Mars actress. Talking was fine, but mashing B Button to continue getting chatty during each possible break... and still not getting the completed-every-conversation Achievement was also crappy. But worst of all is the debilitation of the character. You can't strike the doctors - whatever - if I'm locked up against my will, I may want to act out a little. But you can't run or jump or climb, either. You can only walk, and you can't even push past the doctor when he's hanging out in your room. It isn't a "contrast" between playing Altaire vs. the prisoner, it's just broken feeling.

And then the whole "use your Eagle Vision in the clinic" ending was just unintuitive and crappy, too.

Hopefully they work all that out.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Purple Filth on November 21, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
warning AC2 game spoilers ahead, ignore if you dont want to be spoiled.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18579026&postcount=1

 :gerstmann

wtf
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 21, 2009, 01:25:08 PM
warning AC2 game spoilers ahead, ignore if you dont want to be spoiled.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18579026&postcount=1

 :gerstmann

wtf



as I said in the other thread, probably the most distinguished mentally-challenged game story of all time.  Is this all true? 

gameplay wise, this is sounding way better than the first one.  May pick it up later on.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 21, 2009, 02:25:37 PM
I haven't been following AC2 at all and I still don't have a fucking clue what they've done differently this time around but I just placed and order for it along with Borderlands.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 22, 2009, 12:04:22 AM
this game :bow2
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 22, 2009, 12:32:14 AM
and smh PoP (last year).  The six linear platforming levels in AC2 annihilate that entire game.

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Purple Filth on November 22, 2009, 11:13:26 AM
Its sounding like they learned a lot from their previous mistake.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 22, 2009, 11:57:33 AM
hope this is on sale on amazon black friday  8)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 22, 2009, 05:37:11 PM
Everything in that thread is 100% true. Which is why it's awesome. It's so LOST :bow
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 24, 2009, 01:07:25 AM
1000/1000 :rock

third game that I did this with (after Infamous and Banjo Nuts and Bolts)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on November 24, 2009, 01:29:23 AM
:rock

Can't wait to play this over Christmas holidays.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 24, 2009, 02:46:12 AM
if this isn't on sale on amazon on black friday or cyber monday...i'll just order it anyway.  sounds like the game the first one should've been.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on November 24, 2009, 04:29:51 AM
1000/1000 :rock

third game that I did this with (after Infamous and Banjo Nuts and Bolts)

How hard was it to 1000/1000 Banjo?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on November 24, 2009, 06:45:14 AM
"I don't mean vaginas."

:lol best line ever.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: maxy on November 26, 2009, 04:19:08 PM
For the undecided...

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlODtHz_zLY[/youtube]

AC2 :bow2
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2009, 04:35:13 PM
1000/1000 :rock

third game that I did this with (after Infamous and Banjo Nuts and Bolts)

How hard was it to 1000/1000 Banjo?

It has multiplayer achievements, and some can be done using two controllers local multi (like marathon where you have to leave your 360 on for hours...seriously).  Single player stuff isn't hard assuming you have the tendency to collect everything in platformers like I do.  It's the hardest of the three I listed, and took the longest.  Like, the only reason I went through the trouble to see if I could have enough patience to get 1000/1000 in a game.  If I had AC2 1000/1000 before it, I probably wouldn't have bothered because the multi achievements are annoying.  Though, one of them is playing with a dev or playing with someone who played with a dev, and if you can't find someone, I could help out there.

"I don't mean vaginas."

:lol best line ever.

Ezio  :pimp
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on November 26, 2009, 09:41:37 PM
A cool time-lapse of 10 days in the game across different cities.

http://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry/
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on November 26, 2009, 09:45:57 PM
Beautiful
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on November 26, 2009, 09:47:58 PM
It's funny to see some people sit or stand in the same place all day long.  What a bunch of losers!

Can't wait to crack this game open over Christmas.  My copy just arrived in the mail. :rock
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Akala on November 26, 2009, 10:37:14 PM
game is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 27, 2009, 08:58:17 AM
I just started playing this yesterday and it seems pretty good so far even though I really prefer the setting in the first game over this but there's one thing that's kind of bugging me - all the cross eyed characters.  I haven't been following AC2 so I don't know if other people have been bitching about it but god damn it's distracting.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on November 27, 2009, 09:44:30 AM
How hard was it to 1000/1000 Banjo?

It has multiplayer achievements, and some can be done using two controllers local multi (like marathon where you have to leave your 360 on for hours...seriously).  Single player stuff isn't hard assuming you have the tendency to collect everything in platformers like I do.  It's the hardest of the three I listed, and took the longest.  Like, the only reason I went through the trouble to see if I could have enough patience to get 1000/1000 in a game.  If I had AC2 1000/1000 before it, I probably wouldn't have bothered because the multi achievements are annoying.  Though, one of them is playing with a dev or playing with someone who played with a dev, and if you can't find someone, I could help out there.

Neat-o. I've got Banjo N&B but was not sure when to fire it up. I -loved- the demo, but have been postponing booting the disc because I think it'll take a LONG time to finish, and would be a hard game to go back to if I don't do it in a single run.

OTOH, as good as AC2 sounds, I'm not buying it until next year. The backlog, it towers above me.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on November 27, 2009, 12:30:38 PM
So how is the stuff outside the cities? I read that they had integrated some of the Dunia tech, does it show (weather effects, foliage)?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 27, 2009, 01:08:24 PM
"It's-a me! Mario!"

 :teehee
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on November 27, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
this game is pure fucking sex and I don't even have any weapons yet! I also like how I got 3 achievements for not doing anything! Is this game easy enough to 1000? I'm guessing the collectibles are a pain in the ass
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 27, 2009, 07:01:59 PM
I want this game. Go on sale dammit!!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 27, 2009, 07:12:49 PM
this game is pure fucking sex and I don't even have any weapons yet! I also like how I got 3 achievements for not doing anything! Is this game easy enough to 1000? I'm guessing the collectibles are a pain in the ass

Only real collectibles are the feathers, and they're super easy to get with a guide (even without a guide they're easy to find).  First, the glowing eagle eye vision highlights them for you.  Then the game tells you how many feathers you need in total, by city and by district.  So, while it says 100/100, it breaks it down by saying 32/32 in Florence, 6/6 in so-and-so district in Florence.

There are a ton of side missions and treasure chests to collect, but they're not required for completion.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 28, 2009, 12:12:27 AM
the adventures of ezio da firenze da pussy assassin BYAH
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 28, 2009, 08:26:31 AM
I was doing the second assassin tomb last night (the one in the chapel) and I had a little touch of vertigo in the process.  I don't know when the last time a game did that to me but there was something about climbing on those beams that made my palms sweat, and that's pretty damn awesome.

And I love upgrading the villa, I just wish there was more of it.  It would've been cool if they implimented a Suikoden style recruitment process along with the building upgrades.  Maybe they'll give it to us in AC3.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 28, 2009, 06:30:08 PM
Man, Venice is purty.  :-*
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on November 29, 2009, 04:59:40 AM
The game is incredible :hyper An even better sequel than Uncharted 2.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: GilloD on November 29, 2009, 06:12:53 AM
I'd like to buy this but it's NOT ON STEAM. Maybe in January I;ll try and steal it or something. Or maybe they can give me a way to buy it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 29, 2009, 04:18:40 PM
I finally got the armor of Altair and now I don't like it a bit.  I was thinking that it would look like the outfit from the first AC, instead it looks like a freaking clown suit. :-\

Oh well, at least the tombs were fun to go through.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on November 29, 2009, 06:22:28 PM
I'd like to buy this but it's NOT ON STEAM. Maybe in January I;ll try and steal it or something. Or maybe they can give me a way to buy it.

I'm double dipping on this one once it hits PC. For as nice as it looks on 360, I really want to play it without the ridiculous tearing.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 29, 2009, 06:34:48 PM
A little past when you first get the assassin suit
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2009, 06:34:55 PM
I finally got the armor of Altair and now I don't like it a bit.  I was thinking that it would look like the outfit from the first AC, instead it looks like a freaking clown suit. :-\

Oh well, at least the tombs were fun to go through.

The big benefit is that you never need to repair armor again.  And if you want to look like Altair for AC1, you can use that uplay system to get that.  Just finishing the game gets you enough to unlock almost everything for free.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 29, 2009, 06:57:13 PM
A lot of people get confused on how it works. Altair was already in the assassin group, he was at Master rank from the start.

Ezio is just some poor boy thrust into a world of deceit and lies and throat slitting, who happens to be related to said Master Assassin. He's completely clueless. But through the game he begins to understand and learn the ways of the neck cutter. Story baby, story.

Also you get lots of pussy. Catalina is only the start.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 30, 2009, 12:40:34 AM
Well just finished.  That ending was...uh, wow.  That was some MGS calibur WTF shit.  I really enjoyed the game overall but now I think I need someone to explain to me what exactly the fuck is going on.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 30, 2009, 12:50:08 AM
Awesome ending, so stoked for AC3.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 30, 2009, 12:58:01 AM
It'll definitely be interesting to see which direction they'll go with AC3. I really don't know if it's going to be more Desmond oriented in the present day, another assassin from history, or maybe some future/past setting The Truth was hinting at.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on November 30, 2009, 07:39:38 AM
It'll definitely be interesting to see which direction they'll go with AC3. I really don't know if it's going to be more Desmond oriented in the present day, another assassin from history, or maybe some future/past setting The Truth was hinting at.

Nazi Assassins Creed I hope
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on November 30, 2009, 08:38:44 AM
Nazi AC is what I hope The Saboteur is
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on November 30, 2009, 10:21:51 AM
Velvet Assassin's Creed 3.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Akala on November 30, 2009, 10:45:15 AM
I finally got the armor of Altair and now I don't like it a bit.  I was thinking that it would look like the outfit from the first AC, instead it looks like a freaking clown suit. :-\

Oh well, at least the tombs were fun to go through.

I didn't like the white either. go to the tailor and change the color to a better one.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 30, 2009, 11:11:43 AM
You can't change the color of Altair's armor though.  The dyes...they do nothing. [/Rainier Wolfcastle]  You're basically stuck looking like a jester if you put that suit on.

Anyone look out the windows during the section when you're controlling Desmond out of the Animus?  It looked like Florence.  I don't know if that was supposed to be a clue about something or not, but I thought it was interesting since I thought you were still in some modern city, but maybe not.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Akala on November 30, 2009, 11:21:46 AM
ah. I just got the suit, haven't really had time to play, thought that's what you were talking about.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on November 30, 2009, 04:28:47 PM
Can you get a proper charcoal black outfit in this game? Getting a bit tired of the shiny buckle and fancy sash look.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: tehjaybo on November 30, 2009, 04:29:07 PM
The truth...   :o

Loved the game.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 30, 2009, 04:41:18 PM
Can you get a proper charcoal black outfit in this game? Getting a bit tired of the shiny buckle and fancy sash look.

You can dye it black yes
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 30, 2009, 04:42:08 PM
You can't change the color of Altair's armor though.  The dyes...they do nothing. [/Rainier Wolfcastle]  You're basically stuck looking like a jester if you put that suit on.

You can take off Altair's Armor, and it was black for me. Did you have it a different color?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on November 30, 2009, 06:32:31 PM
You can't change the color of Altair's armor though.  The dyes...they do nothing. [/Rainier Wolfcastle]  You're basically stuck looking like a jester if you put that suit on.

You can take off Altair's Armor, and it was black for me. Did you have it a different color?

Well you can take it off and the color of the default outfit will be the color you last dyed it, so if it's black it's because you dyed it that, but you can't change the color of the Altair set.  And I don't necessarily have a problem with the color of Altair's Armor (nothing wrong with black!) it's just the white stripes on the sleaves.  I know I'm sounding like your average gaf-tard fashionista about this but imo it just looks ridiculous.  All white or all black is much more bad ass.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on November 30, 2009, 08:29:29 PM
that's better than having 4 damn hard freezes at the loading screen. :(

thankfully game auto saves.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 30, 2009, 08:44:09 PM
Not a single bug or lockup here. Nice FUD though thanks
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on November 30, 2009, 08:50:06 PM
Fake. You dont make games bro, you aint got authority sorry. I'll trust a real game developer.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on December 01, 2009, 04:47:11 AM
this game is just so good, its one of the few examples where a sequel has actually gotten rid of everything that was wrong with the original. Theres so much variety in stuff to do and narrative and missions and everything ugh I just wanna play some more but its bedtime  :(
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 01, 2009, 05:14:29 AM
Fake. You dont make games bro, you aint got authority sorry. I'll trust a real game developer.

He's an expert on whine tho :lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Jansen on December 01, 2009, 08:08:19 AM
i feel dumb for wasting my time and unlocking the truth video. holy fuck the story is beyond distinguished mentally-challenged.



Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Herr Mafflard on December 01, 2009, 08:16:37 AM
On that note, is it worth doing any of the side-missions? What collectables are worth hunting?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on December 01, 2009, 08:38:42 AM
feathers for the achievements.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on December 01, 2009, 09:12:04 AM
On that note, is it worth doing any of the side-missions? What collectables are worth hunting?

Truth videos and Feathers. You get so much money from your village that treasures arent worth it
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2009, 09:49:37 AM
On that note, is it worth doing any of the side-missions? What collectables are worth hunting?

You need to collect all the codex pages to finish the game.  Feathers and codex pages are needed for achievements and unlocking things.  Side-missions and treasure chests don't get you anything, but assassination missions are at least fun.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Mupepe on December 01, 2009, 10:50:38 AM
How does the PS3 version compare to the 360 version?

Is the gap as big as the firsts?  I own the first for both systems and the PS3 is absolutely craptacular as far as visuals go.  And bugs are much more common. 

Is it the same for the sequel?  I kinda want it for the PS3.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on December 01, 2009, 11:05:25 AM
No idea, but the 360 version tears frames like mad. I wish I wasn't banned on GAF, because I really want to rip into that Ubi employee who claimed that there was no tearing this time.

Also, Venice is damned beautiful.  :omg
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on December 01, 2009, 11:22:21 AM
The combat bits aren't very interesting, but that has so far been a small part of it. I've enjoyed the stalking missions (very similar to those in Infamous, which I actually liked), individual assassinations (like, guards on rooftops), but most of the fun involves just bounding across rooftops in search of puzzle bits and feathers. There's a stronger direction towards the mainline story this time around, so it feels better taking on side missions and activities.

Feels a bit like Infamous this time around, only much prettier but with relatively meh combat.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: maxy on December 01, 2009, 11:25:24 AM
How does the PS3 version compare to the 360 version?

Is the gap as big as the firsts?  I own the first for both systems and the PS3 is absolutely craptacular as far as visuals go.  And bugs are much more common. 

Is it the same for the sequel?  I kinda want it for the PS3.

PS3 tears more,about 5x more,when nothing is happening framerate is the same,30 fps,but in more demanding scenes PS3 framerate dips are more frequent and deeper.Its more blurrier because of quincunx aa and 1080p mode runs at 960x720.Thats about it.
But its an improvement over first game.

In fact see for yourself
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-assassins-creed-ii-face-off-article (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-assassins-creed-ii-face-off-article)
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2009, 12:24:46 PM
If you have a 360 and PS3, get it on the 360.  It isn't perfect and there is still pop up, tearing and frame rate issues, but it's supposed to be way better than the PS3 version.

The combat bits aren't very interesting, but that has so far been a small part of it. I've enjoyed the stalking missions (very similar to those in Infamous, which I actually liked), individual assassinations (like, guards on rooftops), but most of the fun involves just bounding across rooftops in search of puzzle bits and feathers. There's a stronger direction towards the mainline story this time around, so it feels better taking on side missions and activities.

Feels a bit like Infamous this time around, only much prettier but with relatively meh combat.

I suggest going to the villa band buying moves for all the various weapons, then just focus on barehand/disarming combat.  If you disarm a a guy using a staff, there is a move you buy that sweeps any enemy in front of you to the ground, then you just walk up and stab them.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on December 01, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
See, I had no idea you could buy moves for the weapons.    :-[

If there's one thing I don't like about the game, it'd be the Fable-like approach to regions. Tuscany is, at this point, basically a town, some stables and a backdrop. It's a bit comical.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Mupepe on December 01, 2009, 12:50:13 PM
Yeesh.  Thanks, guys.  I'll be getting it for the 360 then.  I just have the PS3 in the bedroom for lazy playing so I was going to nab it for PS3 considering the amount of time I put in on the first one. 
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on December 01, 2009, 01:47:12 PM
I honestly didn't notice any screen tearing while playing the 360 version.  I'm sure it's there but I guess it didn't bother me.

The lip synch was a little funky at times and some of the people seemed to be cross eyed, but other than that I thought it was pretty solid technically.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on December 01, 2009, 10:05:00 PM
anyone saying anything bad about this game is straight trollin
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on December 01, 2009, 10:11:28 PM
anyone saying anything bad about this game is straight trollin

Didn't you say pretty much the same thing about Assassin's Creed?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on December 01, 2009, 10:15:24 PM
It's like 4 hours of tutorials and carrying boxes and talking to ugly people. :-\ I JUST WANT TO KILL DUDES

Once you get past the first bit, there really isn't much of that, at least not in main missions. I stick to the main story most of the time, with the odd excursion for a Truth puzzle, a feather or syncing viewpoints.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2009, 10:15:24 PM
4 hours of banging chicks and running away from their farther
4 hours of straight up collecting feathers for your gender neutral little brother
4 hours of ballin with Leonardo
4 hours of getting taught stealth by hookers
4 hours of beating up your sisters cheating boyfriend
4 hours of beating up random thugs and stealing their money
4 hours of SIMPLY HAVING A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS TIME
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on December 01, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
anyone saying anything bad about this game is straight trollin

Didn't you say pretty much the same thing about Assassin's Creed?

I dont think so (although I cant remember). I admit AC1 had its faults (way to samey and repetitive, ass combat) but this game is perfect in EVERY WAY
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Purple Filth on December 01, 2009, 11:05:30 PM
4 hours of banging chicks and running away from their farther
4 hours of straight up collecting feathers for your gender neutral little brother
4 hours of ballin with Leonardo
4 hours of getting taught stealth by hookers
4 hours of beating up your sisters cheating boyfriend
4 hours of beating up random thugs and stealing their money
4 hours of SIMPLY HAVING A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS TIME

 :lol

just officially sold me on the game
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 01, 2009, 11:20:24 PM
I want this fucking game, but I'll wait for a <$45 copy to show up on Half or Amazon Marketplace.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on December 02, 2009, 12:43:20 AM
anyone saying anything bad about this game is straight trollin

Didn't you say pretty much the same thing about Assassin's Creed?

I dont think so (although I cant remember). I admit AC1 had its faults (way to samey and repetitive, ass combat) but this game is perfect in EVERY WAY
But you'd have been right. AC1 WAS BORING.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on December 03, 2009, 12:41:49 PM
Feels like they ran out of ideas with these "free the prisoners" missions. Cleared the Truth video, though. It's a bit troublesome that my dude is being directed by a couple of clowns who hadn't figured out the puzzle long before the final video showed.

Also, Venice is getting to be large enough for me to miss the fast traveling of Infamous.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on December 03, 2009, 01:15:58 PM
I'm trying to do all the assassination contracts in Tuscany and I can't find the target you're supposed to ambush in the Roman amphitheater for some reason.  These contracts are hella fun otherwise tho.  I'm also nearly done upgrading the Villa so what else is there to blow money on besides combat moves?  Is it worth it to buy armor, weapons, clothes, art?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on December 03, 2009, 01:17:17 PM
armors for the achievement.

others are just to increase your villa value.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on December 03, 2009, 01:17:55 PM
If you buy a weapon, is it always in that RB wheel menu with you?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on December 03, 2009, 01:19:21 PM
You swap weapons and armor around in designated rooms in the villa.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on December 05, 2009, 01:21:09 PM
Finished it last night, pretty good stuff, dudes went totally wild with the story.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
But it got pretty silly with how many times I almost killed Borgia, only to have him escape at the last second.
[close]

The last follow the courier mission was all sorts of bullshit.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on December 06, 2009, 10:49:57 AM
The story is all kinds of MGS crazy but if they could turn it into something really great if they handle the next game properly.  They initially said the series was supposed to be a trilogy but after all that stuff at the end I'm not sure how the hell they could possibly wrap it up in any satisfying way with just one more game.  I'm guessing the whole trilogy thing is off the table now.

I got 1000/1000 in this one - I don't remember the last time I bothered doing that.  Bring on DNA sequences 12 and 13 DLC.  I'm ready to play more AC2.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 13, 2009, 04:29:11 PM
What. The. Fuck.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on December 13, 2009, 06:01:10 PM
What. The. Fuck.

Welcome to the world of Assassin's Creed.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MCD on December 13, 2009, 06:02:48 PM
nothing is true, everything is permitted.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Purple Filth on December 13, 2009, 06:13:56 PM
What. The. Fuck.

 :lol

i guess you saw the ending right?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 13, 2009, 06:45:31 PM
yeah. this game is bananas.

and i just saw The Truth thing too.

okaaay....
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on December 13, 2009, 11:06:35 PM
The ending totally owned! I love how they pull out all the stops in the last 1/2 hour (same thing happened in AC1). Cant wait for AC3!!!!!!!1

Just need the feathers and cape wearing achievement for 1000/1000. Will just blast thru it with a map I think.

Its kinda lame that Sequence 12 & 13 were 'corrupted', and DLC is announced so soon after a games release. Its the way it is these days, I guess. I suppose Im not too pissed, AC2 was a big enough game. I will buy the DLC, naturally  :-\
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 13, 2009, 11:29:57 PM
So the "assassin" in the title is kinda loose then...'cause everyone I've killed has been in broad daylight and in public.  he even announced his name to everyone after stabbing a guy 10 times in the chest :lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on December 13, 2009, 11:38:02 PM
Its kinda lame that Sequence 12 & 13 were 'corrupted', and DLC is announced so soon after a games release. Its the way it is these days, I guess. I suppose Im not too pissed, AC2 was a big enough game. I will buy the DLC, naturally  :-\

Well maybe you should have ponied up the dollars for the Black Edition. :smug

EB Australia were selling it for AUD$150 :rofl

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on December 14, 2009, 12:32:49 AM
I fell for that special edition shit once, never again. Every game and it's dog now has OMG LIMITED EDITION with Master Chief beachtowel etc., fuck that noise!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: fistfulofmetal on December 14, 2009, 12:47:38 AM
So the "assassin" in the title is kinda loose then...'cause everyone I've killed has been in broad daylight and in public.  he even announced his name to everyone after stabbing a guy 10 times in the chest :lol

that was the thing i didn't like about the game. even though the design around them was poor, i really liked the established assassinations from the first game. setting up the who, the where, the how, etc. then the escape. it was repetitive, sure, but i really liked the concept.

i figured the devs were going to make it a little more dynamic or whatever but they pretty much abandoned it all together. it's assassin's creed in name alone. it's all about Ezio's revenge quest.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on December 14, 2009, 12:48:23 AM
I fell for that special edition shit once, never again. Every game and it's dog now has OMG LIMITED EDITION with Master Chief beachtowel etc., fuck that noise!

Same, I'm sick of dust-collecting boxes and statues and shit.  And I would never give money to EB anyway.

I bought AC2 from overseas for AUD$70 or something so as long as the DLC costs less than about 5000 points (lol) I'm good to go.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: CajoleJuice on December 14, 2009, 02:47:30 AM
I need to collect all of The Truth. I can't wait to see how ridiculous it is -- is it more insane than the ending?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on December 14, 2009, 02:50:53 AM
No
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on December 14, 2009, 03:16:57 AM
its just weird imo
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on December 14, 2009, 03:55:48 AM
At launch I paid full price for the Special Edition of GTA IV, and will probably never do it again.

I'd consider it for BULLY 2, but I've heard from someone close to the studio that the original dev team bolted to do a 4X space game after wrapping that gem. If they're not handling the sequel, I've got limited confidence in the sequel. It'll be day 1 for me, but an extra US$20~30 for some trinkets which set the publisher back an extra 5 bucks isiffy.

If there was a Special Edition Classics version of GTA III, I'd pay ridiculous sums of money for something with a poster, soundtrack CD, poster or wall scroll. Maybe a scratch-n-sniff book of all the principal characters, and hugging pillow of Donald Love. Well, "ridiculous sums of money" compared to what the game can be found for used or even Platinum/Greatest price-wise... say US$80.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on December 14, 2009, 04:21:10 AM
that was the thing i didn't like about the game. even though the design around them was poor, i really liked the established assassinations from the first game. setting up the who, the where, the how, etc. then the escape. it was repetitive, sure, but i really liked the concept.
i figured the devs were going to make it a little more dynamic or whatever but they pretty much abandoned it all together. it's assassin's creed in name alone. it's all about Ezio's revenge quest.
nah not really, he always said a little prayer for them and made it as "peaceful" as possible.  The first few guys he killed were out of revenge of course, since they were directly responsible for murdering his family but most of your targets are killed for the political reason of them being templars.

In my experience, stealth always makes it easier to get closer to the target.  I haven't finished the game yet but I did just do the first assassination that you have to do with the gun so I'm definitely past halfway.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on December 15, 2009, 04:37:40 AM
Beat the game tonight. 

I think I woke my neighbers  :(
spoiler (click to show/hide)
...from laughing.  "What the fuck"  :lol :lol :lol :lol  In my mind the game ends there, forget everything post-credits, that is the best last line EVER IN A GAME.  It's like desmond IS THE PLAYER and that is exactly the player's reaction.  :lol :lol :lol
[close]

Fantastic experience.  Has a shitton of flaws, but it does so much right and it gives a lengthy fleshed out satisfying story experience that you just don't see in non-rpg games outside (pre-MGS4) Kojima these days.  Can't wait for ACIII but I don't feel like OMG NEED IT NOW like most of these half-assed "buy the sequel!" games.  Very satisfied and good for another couple of years.

AC1 is still a piece of shit though
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: iconoclast on December 15, 2009, 05:08:10 AM
I'd consider it for BULLY 2, but I've heard from someone close to the studio that the original dev team bolted to do a 4X space game after wrapping that gem. If they're not handling the sequel, I've got limited confidence in the sequel. It'll be day 1 for me, but an extra US$20~30 for some trinkets which set the publisher back an extra 5 bucks isiffy.

Wait, Bully 2 is in development?! How did I miss this :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on December 15, 2009, 06:07:54 AM
Wait, Bully 2 is in development?! How did I miss this :hyper :hyper :hyper
Yeah, the EB Bully Brigade all popped a consensual chubbie over this a couple days ago. The composer spilt the beans during a recent interview that he was about to start work on the soundtrack to it. Considering that was Hopkins' first year at Bulworth, hopefully they'll stick with him and leap into a Sophomoric experience in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 15, 2009, 09:37:16 PM
$40 dollars for the Ps3 and 360 version. These deals don't last long.

http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-II-Xbox-360/dp/B00269DXCK/ref=pd_ts_vg_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames
http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-II-Playstation-3/dp/B00269DX5W/ref=pd_ts_vg_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on December 16, 2009, 12:58:50 AM
good ending.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on December 16, 2009, 04:56:54 AM
Beat the game tonight. 

I think I woke my neighbers  :(
spoiler (click to show/hide)
...from laughing.  "What the fuck"  :lol :lol :lol :lol  In my mind the game ends there, forget everything post-credits, that is the best last line EVER IN A GAME.  It's like desmond IS THE PLAYER and that is exactly the player's reaction.  :lol :lol :lol
[close]

Fantastic experience.  Has a shitton of flaws, but it does so much right and it gives a lengthy fleshed out satisfying story experience that you just don't see in non-rpg games outside (pre-MGS4) Kojima these days.  Can't wait for ACIII but I don't feel like OMG NEED IT NOW like most of these half-assed "buy the sequel!" games.  Very satisfied and good for another couple of years.

AC1 is still a piece of shit though

please detail these "flaws". It didnt deliver what you wanted from a piece of electronic entertainment?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on December 16, 2009, 02:52:25 PM
LMAO
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on December 16, 2009, 02:56:25 PM
Lucky you, trading in a game that erases your data for one that corrupts it!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on December 16, 2009, 03:07:22 PM
Didn't you have other hard drive files get corrupted recently gengis?  Maybe your hard drives getting screwed up which may mean that you're heading for an E74 code.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 16, 2009, 03:14:57 PM
Wait, Bully 2 is in development?! How did I miss this :hyper :hyper :hyper
Yeah, the EB Bully Brigade all popped a consensual chubbie over this a couple days ago. The composer spilt the beans during a recent interview that he was about to start work on the soundtrack to it. Considering that was Hopkins' first year at Bulworth, hopefully they'll stick with him and leap into a Sophomoric experience in more ways than one.

I'm still surprised the Xbox version never got leaked onto the internet. It was done and ready to go gold, but they decided not to release it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on December 16, 2009, 04:17:05 PM
DLC was recently detailed, btw.

It is the two "missing" sequences (12 + 13).

Memory 12 cost $4 and is out in January.  It takes place in an existing area, but also the most under-utilized one (Forli).  I think this is the one where you can use the flying machine again.  Memory 13 cost $5 and is out in February.  It is still in the same general areas (so no Rome) but has expansions/new areas to go around in.  Supposed to be 10 missions and you apparently get a new climbing ability. 
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: iconoclast on December 16, 2009, 04:26:03 PM
$4 = 320 points. Having an uneven balance sucks. I've had an extra 40 points on my account for like two years because I bought a couple Rock Band 1 track packs. I've been thinking about buying the Bayonetta premium theme just to even it out...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on December 16, 2009, 04:30:20 PM
Yea I got 40 points rotting away. Was gonna waste it on Gyromancer's 40 point item refresh
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 20, 2009, 04:40:18 PM
Okay this game is kinda dope.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on December 20, 2009, 04:54:18 PM
KINDA? You trollin man? What is this "kinda"
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 20, 2009, 05:10:02 PM
It starts off kinda slow. (Although I now realize that was basically just an extended tutorial which in retrospect was useful for me). And the controls take a bit to come to grips with it. But I'm enjoying it now very much.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on December 21, 2009, 01:20:31 AM
good shit. Now dont play anything else until you get your sweet 1000 points, and play with your penis in anticipation for the DLC!

edit: you could be playing PS3 version. In that case: :piss
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: ManaByte on December 21, 2009, 02:18:02 AM
I played the PS3 AC1 when it came out and didn't like it. Replaying it now on 360 and it's so much better. Smoother framerate, better lighting, sharper textures. The series was made for the 360 and the PS3 just gets sloppy seconds.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on December 21, 2009, 06:02:39 AM
It was funny how it was originally "PS3 exclusive" even though the demos they were showing the press were demonstrated with a 360 controller.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: ManaByte on December 21, 2009, 04:50:01 PM
They say that they want to put in the ability to replay any mission. They just couldn't get it tested 100% in time for launch. Also, UBI Singapore did the PoP style levels:
http://kotaku.com/5431098/a-2009-view-from-the-top-making-assassins-creed-ii
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: ManaByte on December 21, 2009, 07:17:46 PM
It was funny how it was originally "PS3 exclusive" even though the demos they were showing the press were demonstrated with a 360 controller.

That was just phase one of the downfall. Pay a major third party to say their multiplatform title is exclusive to your system even when they only have a playable Xbox 360 version.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on January 02, 2010, 09:45:39 AM
I'm glad to read here that the treasures are not part of a larger Achievement. They're fun to get with the treasure maps, but they've just about been made useless by the Villa income at this point. Pretty sure I'll be getting more money than I know what to do with in the next 3~4 hours of gameplay, though I know once I get the weapons and armor it will just get sunk into paintings and art.

"It's-a me! Mario!"

 :teehee

Yeah, I laffed.

It was also nice to perforate the ass-clown who initiates that ambush.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bloodwake on January 02, 2010, 08:10:04 PM
Just beat the game. It was pretty good. I enjoyed it despite the "what the fuck" ending.

I'm hyped for Assassin's Creed 3, just to see what the hell they are going to do to the story now.

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BTW, I thought the Truth was actually a lot cooler than the ending. At least that makes sense logically with what is happening in the game, you know, putting people in machines and playing back other people's memories.
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Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 02, 2010, 08:42:50 PM
I'm glad to read here that the treasures are not part of a larger Achievement. They're fun to get with the treasure maps, but they've just about been made useless by the Villa income at this point. Pretty sure I'll be getting more money than I know what to do with in the next 3~4 hours of gameplay, though I know once I get the weapons and armor it will just get sunk into paintings and art.

"It's-a me! Mario!"

 :teehee

Yeah, I laffed.

It was also nice to perforate the ass-clown who initiates that ambush.

Yeah! Isn't it nice not to have the villain slip away from you after pounding him into the ground, as happens 3 or 4 times in every J-RPG. You fuck with Ezio, you get the stabby-stabby.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: duckman2000 on January 02, 2010, 08:50:02 PM
Yeah! Isn't it nice not to have the villain slip away from you after pounding him into the ground, as happens 3 or 4 times in every J-RPG. You fuck with Ezio, you get the stabby-stabby.

Er...

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That happens, 3 times
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Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 02, 2010, 08:50:44 PM
oh great
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 02, 2010, 09:25:49 PM
$4 = 320 points. Having an uneven balance sucks. I've had an extra 40 points on my account for like two years because I bought a couple Rock Band 1 track packs. I've been thinking about buying the Bayonetta premium theme just to even it out...

I have 39 points somehow, thanks to the Zune market. Fuck me I guess.

This is $40 on Amazon again, thinking about it. Anyone here selling?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on January 02, 2010, 10:45:32 PM
I would but I loaned it to a gay fatty friend of mine. Plus I'm going to buy the DLC
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: CHOW CHOW on January 03, 2010, 09:19:37 AM
can i jump into the second one and skip the first?  is there a lot of continuation in the story or i can just read the wiki about the first
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 09:36:02 AM
I'm playing the first one now.  I get that it's pretty repetitive, but I'm having fun with it and it doesn't seem like it's that long.  Maybe ten hours without searching for all the flags?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 03, 2010, 09:57:04 AM
yeah it's pretty short even if you do the "side-missions".  It's also necessary to play it chow chow if you want to know what's going on in the second game because the second game has a really half-assed 40 second recap that doesn't really explain anything at all.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: CHOW CHOW on January 03, 2010, 10:04:19 AM
i'm just afraid that i'll dislike the repetition of the first game so much that i'll go into the sequel with a bad attitude and not really give it a chance
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 10:20:23 AM
Well, I can't help you there.  Here's what you do in the first AC:

- Help out informers - usually do stealth assassinations or do flag hunts under a time limit

- Save citizens from being killed by guards

- Reach high points to get a strategic view of the city

- Pickpocket

- Eavesdrop

- Interrogate (find your target and without them noticing you, follow them somewhere away from the guards so you can beat them up for info)

- Assassinations and escapes

That's pretty much all there is to the first game, aside from the side missions (find templar knights and kill them, find flags scattered throughout the cities and field map).  If that sounds boring to you, skip the first game and go on to the second.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 03, 2010, 08:06:38 PM
The first game had about 15 minutes of informant missions before every assassination that was pretty much the same every time.  The majority of the game felt fresh though and the story and setting play a big part in how much you'll enjoy the game (and the sequel).  The sequel does everything better though.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 03, 2010, 09:17:41 PM
I'm sure he could just youtube the plot of the first game and start with the second.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Lucretius on January 03, 2010, 10:29:30 PM
I'm loving the game.  But in every dungeon area (assassin tomb or whatever), my 360 starts freaking out graphically and eventually freezes.  It's a launch unit.  No RRoD.  I've even taken apart my console and cleaned up and replaced the thermal compound on the GPU and CPU.  And this is the only game it does it on.  And only in the dungeons.  I'm selling the console to a friend of mine for 100 bucks with the caveat that it freezes up on AC II.  I'm gonna get an Elite.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on January 03, 2010, 11:46:21 PM
Yeah! Isn't it nice not to have the villain slip away from you after pounding him into the ground, as happens 3 or 4 times in every J-RPG. You fuck with Ezio, you get the stabby-stabby.

Er...

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That happens, 3 times
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FFFFFFUUUUU...
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(NNNN TIMES)...
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I don't mind those, except if they end the game on it. "BON JOUR KIDZ, BUY ZE SEQUEL!" -- UBI's big enough that they will persevere and launch another game to wrap it up, but it grates when a game or TV show sets you up for the obvious sequel-age and then goes out of business. Yeah, I know it's rough on them, but won't someone think of the fans.  :bawl :violin
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 11:54:47 PM
Series was always set up as a trilogy of sorts.  At least it's selling well so we're guaranteed a sequel within the next year and a half or so.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2010, 12:51:45 PM
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Ubisoft has announced that Assassin’s Creed 2 has exceeded 6 million in sales, and fully expects the title to reach 9 million sell-in units by March 2010.
A new episode of Assassin’s Creed 2 is also expected this year, and it will be the first in the series to have an online multiplayer mode.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/13/assassins-creed-2-sales-reach-6m-multiplayer-dlc-on-the-way/


How very odd.


Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on January 13, 2010, 02:26:56 PM
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Ubisoft has announced that Assassin’s Creed 2 has exceeded 6 million in sales, and fully expects the title to reach 9 million sell-in units by March 2010.
A new episode of Assassin’s Creed 2 is also expected this year, and it will be the first in the series to have an online multiplayer mode.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/13/assassins-creed-2-sales-reach-6m-multiplayer-dlc-on-the-way/


How very odd.




Not odd. It's going to be CTF, just like that one mission was. Seemed too obvious to just randomly place that in the game.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 13, 2010, 05:17:29 PM
Not odd. It's going to be CTF, just like that one mission was. Seemed too obvious to just randomly place that in the game.

I guess I haven't done that mission yet.

The only thing I was thinking of was the races or the fighting. None of which seems especially like something I would want to do. I barely like to do them in the game proper...


I could think of maybe something where you have to infilitrate a place and kill somebody and the rest of the players are guards trying to stop you or something but maybe once I do that mission, it will be more obvious
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on January 13, 2010, 06:43:16 PM
AC2 needs multiplayer about as badly as Bioshock.  :-\
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2010, 12:58:42 PM
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Ubi’s confirmed to VG247 that the new Assassin’s Creed game revealed in a financial report yesterday has nothing to do with planned Assassin’s Creed II add-ons.

“The AC game referenced in [the] announcement is not tied to the AC2 DLC,” said a rep.
Looking back at October 2009, members of the Assassin’s Creed II team twice admitted that the storyline for the IP’s third installment was being looked into, along with multiplayer.
Possible settings could be feudal Japan or medieval Europe, said Philippe Bergeron, lead mission designer at Ubisoft Montreal to German television show PLAY’D.
Admitting that both time periods were favorites of his, Bergeron felt that either “would be very interesting, culturally, [for the team] to discover and to make players discover as well”.
World War II was also mentioned as a setting by game producer Sébastien Puel, who fancied the idea of a female protagonist, thanks to the female-run economy of WWII-era France and England.
“We’ve had discussions on that very topic,” said Puel. “It could be really interesting but we’d need to find the right time period and place for that. We don’t want to just decide we want to change and have a female hero – as the first inspiration is always the time period.”
By the 20th Century, there were loads of secret societies around the globe, so that would be a no-brainer as well.
While different setting were being thrown about by all involved, one thing was agreed upon – future replayability – and what better way to make a game replayable than the now-confirmed multiplayer?
During the October interview with Bergeron, PLAY’D asked him about the possibility of multiplayer, and he admitted that the team was looking into it.
“I mean, it’s unavoidable – multiplayer is now part of our industry and everybody needs to put their hands into it,” he said. “So we’re definitely looking at possibilities of making Assassin’s Creed an online experience while still keeping with the strong narrative qualities.”
The new title in the series is expected to be shipped during Ubisoft’s fiscal year 2010-11, which starts in April.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/14/new-assassins-creed-game-not-tied-to-ac2-dlc/
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on January 14, 2010, 12:59:53 PM
“I mean, it’s unavoidable – multiplayer is now part of our industry and everybody needs to put their hands into it,” he said.

No

They

Don't
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on January 14, 2010, 01:49:02 PM
I wouldn't mind if it was like Splinter Cell co-op multiplayer where two guys go and take care of a mission together.  Also, two guys sharing one haystack > love box
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 14, 2010, 01:50:47 PM
I've played the capture the flag mission now. That's not a very good potential multiplayer experience imo. At least not without a shitload of improvement.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on January 15, 2010, 04:08:49 AM
“I mean, it’s unavoidable – multiplayer is now part of our industry and everybody needs to put their hands into it,” he said.

No

They

Don't
Yeah, I find my self in rare, utter-and-complete agreement with you. There are lots of compelling single-player-only experiences to be had, and the history of the industry-to-date is rife with examples.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on January 15, 2010, 04:34:29 AM
Single player only games apparently don't sell because people trade them in after beating them since there's no replay value yadda yadda yadda is what they say

But AC1/2/Bioshock were some of the best selling games and were SP only...and now they're getting MP  ???
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 15, 2010, 08:26:35 AM
they should make a co-op mode in Asscreed 3. i could see that being fun.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: ManaByte on January 15, 2010, 11:04:53 AM
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=231616

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Assassin's Creed 3 to star Ezio

Ubisoft's new Assassin's Creed game (which we're taking a punt on being AC3) will again star Italian hero Ezio, Ubisoft has confirmed - and will be created by the same studios behind AC2.

The publisher today revealed that the story of the game will be a "follow-up" to AC2.

CVG reported yesterday that Ubisoft was hard at work on a sequel, which the company is due to release before March 2011. A Christmas release is looking likely.

"We have a new Assassin's Creed that we expect will be a very high quality product that as well as an offline component will have a multiplayer component," Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot said today.

"It is the same studios because it's not only one studio creating the game, but an association of studios and they are working together to make it happen."

A fellow Ubisoft spokesman then added: "The game will take place with the same hero, which is Ezio, and will follow-up the story that took place in Assassin's Creed 2."

Guillemot confirmed the game would be sold at a "full price point".

The majority of AC2 was developed by Ubisoft Montreal.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 15, 2010, 11:14:09 AM
4 years for the first game, 2 years for the second, and 1 year for the third?  Polyphony should take note of this.

edit: okay it sounds like this is more something like Halo3 ODST.  I don't think they're going to make any new cities or anything.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on January 15, 2010, 11:19:52 AM
I'm confused about how that would work out, but sure, I'll probably get it

when is that DLC coming out, btw? supposed to be january and we in it now
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 17, 2010, 11:16:48 PM
Just finished it, that ending was BANANAS, guess I'ma have to get the third one
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 18, 2010, 12:08:58 AM
Kinda sucks that we're sticking with Ezio for AC3...I was hoping we'd get a new protagonist with every main installment.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 18, 2010, 12:16:01 AM
Kinda sucks that we're sticking with Ezio for AC3...I was hoping we'd get a new protagonist with every main installment.


I'm not sure you could consider this one a "main installment". Especially if it doesn't have a 2 year dev schedule.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 18, 2010, 12:24:09 AM
That final boss was amazing, never would I think that anyone would be crazy enough to have a
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fist fight with the pope in the Sistine Chapel
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, I mean shit like that is exactly why I play video games. Awesome just awesome
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on January 18, 2010, 12:29:14 AM
The final fight was cool but... pretty flat compared to the Al-Mualim fight. I didnt mind the whole scenario though.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 18, 2010, 12:50:11 AM
Started this last night, I like they've done the fast walk/run modifier, but the early combat is fucking terrible.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 18, 2010, 01:02:47 AM
Started this last night, I like they've done the fast walk/run modifier, but the early combat is fucking terrible.

It doesn't get much better even when they start adding stuff to it.  :(


I'll finish this one off probably around Tuesday but I never really fell in love with most of the core mechanics. They are all servicable at best imo but none of them are really exceptional.

The core appeal of the game has been the over-arching mythos for me.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on January 18, 2010, 02:09:28 AM
I'm confused about how that would work out, but sure, I'll probably get it

when is that DLC coming out, btw? supposed to be january and we in it now

Its supposed to come out in 'late January'.... within the next week or so I guess. Cant wait to fire up AC2 again!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 18, 2010, 06:38:20 PM
How long does it take before you get your first assassination? Feels like I've been running errands for ages.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on January 18, 2010, 06:51:51 PM
Started this last night, I like they've done the fast walk/run modifier, but the early combat is fucking terrible.

It doesn't get much better even when they start adding stuff to it.  :(


I'll finish this one off probably around Tuesday but I never really fell in love with most of the core mechanics. They are all servicable at best imo but none of them are really exceptional.

The core appeal of the game has been the over-arching mythos for me.

The mechanics aren't great, but the experience somehow is I think.  It's like how the combat mechanics in Crackdown are not great, but the action experiences you get out of it are great.  And yeah, the best part of AC is the story and the historical database stuff.  It's like watching the history channel and MGS at the same time!

How long does it take before you get your first assassination? Feels like I've been running errands for ages.

3 hours maybe?  The first 5 hours or so are the tutorial.

Kinda sucks that we're sticking with Ezio for AC3...I was hoping we'd get a new protagonist with every main installment.

We're not.  AC3 will be a whole new time period, new cities, new main character.  2 year development cycle with 400 person staff and $50-100 million budget. etc, etc...

Whatever is coming this year is a spinoff and probably will be budgeted and priced as such (full price point $40-50 I'd guess unless they want to rape the consumers at $60).

I'm confused about how that would work out, but sure, I'll probably get it

when is that DLC coming out, btw? supposed to be january and we in it now

Its supposed to come out in 'late January'.... within the next week or so I guess. Cant wait to fire up AC2 again!

Yeah I'm really looking forward to the DLC chapters this month and next (assuming they're released on time).  Should make AC2's story a bit more fleshed out and finished.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 19, 2010, 12:10:59 AM
How long does it take before you get your first assassination? Feels like I've been running errands for ages.
3 hours maybe?  The first 5 hours or so are the tutorial.
I don't know, it felt more like a half hour to me.  You go from a street fight to a race to a couple letter delivery/husband-beating missions and then from there the drama with your family starts.  And after that, you basically start your assassinations.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on January 19, 2010, 01:00:58 AM
Yeah, I didn't feel the Tutorial was unwieldy or long; I didn't spend an age expecting the OWG stuff to begin immediately, but rather traipsed through everything until they gave me the keys to the batcave and weapons, and schooled me in the way of whores. Then I felt like I could actually start playing. An hour maybe? Less?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on January 19, 2010, 02:05:22 AM
man I need the fucking DLC now! Need to not play Mass Effect for just a little bit!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 19, 2010, 03:34:52 AM
Finished it up tonight. Enjoyed it but not as much as others seemed to or quite as much as the high review scores.


What I liked:

The lead character. Good stuff. He's far more interesting and well voiced than Desmond is. He's a well motivated character story wise. I'm totally fine with seeing a spin off game with him and getting closure on his story.

The Tombs where you get the pieces to unlock the armor. Those were good bits that mixed puzzle solving with some light platforming and didn't really ask me to do too much I felt uncomfortable with. I found I always looked forward to those.

The art design of the world and city. Pretty impressive stuff all around.

The sort of Da Vinci Code style over-arching mythos.

Good meaty length.


What I didn't like:

The actual core mechanics for a lot of the game which is a bit of a bummer because it sort of brings my overall experience down and which is why I have a lot of mixed feeling about the game in general. You can sort of divide the game I guess into three parts. Fighting, Stealth, and platforming and none of those aspects are especially good. The fighting is well animated but mostly awful including one of the worst final bosses I've ever gone against in a videogame. The Stealth feels inadequate and not cool even though they kept piling little additions in there. Why can't I crouch? Why is the detect system so odd and felt so unnatural. And the platforming I was mixed on. When everything works and you're running over rooftops its neat enough but the controls feel so finnicky that one little slip blows the illusion immediately and there are lots of little slips. Perhaps its a me thing but from the beginning to the end I was constantly falling off things or running up walls I didn't mean to or just having to think too much about how to execute things. It just doesn't feel natural and while it tries to streamline things and get that parkour natural feeling going, I found myself constantly yanked out of the game struggling to get the controls to do what I needed them to do.

Also while I enjoyed the over-arching story the actual story of Ezio in this game is a bit confusing and doesn't have a great payoff. It seemed disjointed trying to introduce all these characters just to create an "epic" experience rather than sort of going into more detail about specific parts. It just completely sort of dropped his family for instance. I assume this is all because of the spin-off game they are doing but it still didn't satisfy me for this specific game.

Mixed on:

The economy stuff in the game. At first you are kind of blown away when they introduce it because it seems like it will add depth but it's really a shallow sort of gimmick and time sync. The money eventually seemed like just a gimmick to try to get me to come back to the villa and the charm and balance of the whole thing wore off quickly because you were rolling in the dough so quick. Just seemed kind of broken.


Overall
Like I said I enjoyed it. Just had a lot of issues and it sort of surprises me because I would think you would hear more carping since the actual gameplay part of the game still has a lot of issues that are irritating. Certainly better than the first and the best compliment I can give is that it makes me want to go back and play the first and endure what I consider a mediocre game just so I can get the backstory. The game works best when it has the mythos going and you have to figure out how to infiltrate some tall building and pull off a kill. That works.

I just wish the rest of the game mechanics and other stuff was as compelling and well thought out as that. They added a lot of stuff to this game and activities and tools you could use to try to stem the complaints from the first game that there wasn't a lot to do but I still think the fundamental problem is that this stuff hasn't been incorporated or designed well into the flow. It feels like a game that has a lot of unnecessary bits in it. They are just there to be there instead of being used to create a better game or deeper experience.  All open world games are somewhat this way but for whatever reason it really struck me here. I found myself comparing the game a lot to Batman where I felt the core mechanics worked and were fun in that game in a way that they weren't here. AC 2 starts off slow but then gives a great impression as you see all this stuff introduced but honestly most of that stuff seems paper thin as you continue on with it and I have to admit I had to drag myself towards to end at times rather than being always excited and motivated to get there. Either way I enjoyed it enough to look forward to the next one and hopefully they'll be able to improve the core mechanics.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on January 22, 2010, 10:56:23 AM
DLC is out Jan 28th.  It's the Forli one that's 320 points.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Cravis on January 22, 2010, 04:22:33 PM
The economy stuff in the game. At first you are kind of blown away when they introduce it because it seems like it will add depth but it's really a shallow sort of gimmick and time sync. The money eventually seemed like just a gimmick to try to get me to come back to the villa and the charm and balance of the whole thing wore off quickly because you were rolling in the dough so quick. Just seemed kind of broken.
I agree on the economy system. I found it really addictive at first until I upgraded everything in the town within 2 or 3 hours of playing and realized how shallow it was. I'm just sitting back and collecting the money now to finish out the art collection.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on January 22, 2010, 04:40:20 PM
DLC is out Jan 28th.  It's the Forli one that's 320 points.

awesome. Same time as Mass Effect 2  :-\

well hopefully theres more shit to buy in the DLC (there wont be). I have the Villa at 100% and there is nothing else to buy  :'(
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on January 22, 2010, 05:09:03 PM
This is the DLC that is just 6 new missions.  The next one is supposed to be bigger, adding new moves and areas.

I'm probably going to just play ME2 a lot and hold off on this DLC until the next DLC pack comes out, get and play both at once.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on January 22, 2010, 05:25:06 PM
^ thats an idea! seeing as this 1st Asscrud DLC will be 1 hour long at most.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 22, 2010, 09:12:30 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the spinoff retail game that comes out later this year actually has both dlc packs on it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: bork on January 22, 2010, 09:34:40 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the spinoff retail game that comes out later this year actually has both dlc packs on it.

Assassin's Creed: Episodes From Italy, huh?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Powerslave on January 23, 2010, 06:03:51 PM
Ass 2 ass Creed
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: ManaByte on January 23, 2010, 06:10:21 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the spinoff retail game that comes out later this year actually has both dlc packs on it.

No they save that for the Platinum Hits version. Most Platinum Hits on 360 include all the DLC.

It's stupid to put AC2 DLC in a spinoff because you can't guarantee that purchasers of that kept AC2.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 23, 2010, 08:42:49 PM
Just finished the second DNA segment in Assassin's Creed 2.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Raban on January 23, 2010, 08:45:46 PM
Ass 2 ass Creed

I used think Demi was the King Troll of EB, but I think you've got him beat. Every single post you make is completely pointless and stupid.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 23, 2010, 08:51:42 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the spinoff retail game that comes out later this year actually has both dlc packs on it.

No they save that for the Platinum Hits version. Most Platinum Hits on 360 include all the DLC.

It's stupid to put AC2 DLC in a spinoff because you can't guarantee that purchasers of that kept AC2.
I'm pretty sure I heard that that spinoff is going to be a retail game actually.  It'd be similar to how Halo3 ODST had all of the map packs.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Powerslave on January 23, 2010, 09:05:25 PM
Every. single. post.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Raban on January 23, 2010, 09:45:21 PM
Every. single. post.

Yeap. I crown you King Troll. Be proud.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: ManaByte on January 23, 2010, 09:59:34 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the spinoff retail game that comes out later this year actually has both dlc packs on it.

No they save that for the Platinum Hits version. Most Platinum Hits on 360 include all the DLC.

It's stupid to put AC2 DLC in a spinoff because you can't guarantee that purchasers of that kept AC2.
I'm pretty sure I heard that that spinoff is going to be a retail game actually.  It'd be similar to how Halo3 ODST had all of the map packs.

ODST had a multiplayer disc and Halo 3 was not needed. It's different than including DLC for a different game.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 24, 2010, 02:04:44 AM
Finished it up tonight. Enjoyed it but not as much as others seemed to or quite as much as the high review scores.

...

Like I said I enjoyed it. Just had a lot of issues and it sort of surprises me because I would think you would hear more carping since the actual gameplay part of the game still has a lot of issues that are irritating. Certainly better than the first and the best compliment I can give is that it makes me want to go back and play the first and endure what I consider a mediocre game just so I can get the backstory. The game works best when it has the mythos going and you have to figure out how to infiltrate some tall building and pull off a kill. That works.

I just wish the rest of the game mechanics and other stuff was as compelling and well thought out as that. They added a lot of stuff to this game and activities and tools you could use to try to stem the complaints from the first game that there wasn't a lot to do but I still think the fundamental problem is that this stuff hasn't been incorporated or designed well into the flow. It feels like a game that has a lot of unnecessary bits in it.

I'm only up to the 7th sequence but I agree with everything you've written. The actual fighting is terrible, just wait for a combo or dodge, using thins like sweeps or disarms rarely work. The economy is really basic, you can buy everything up within a few hours if you do it correctly and then it's just an excuse to go back to pick up your cash.

The really amazing moments are when you are trying to work out how to scale a massive tower, or working out how to get to your target as quick as possible. Everything else is generally average to bad. My biggest gripe is how you need to take every jump at the exact right angle otherwise Eizo will fly off in some stupid direction. It's incredibly infuriating in that tomb with the switches and timers.

It's only after playing this that I realised how fucking poor the Saboteur is, which tries many of the same concepts and fails miserably at all of them.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 24, 2010, 02:14:37 AM
The really amazing moments are when you are trying to work out how to scale a massive tower, or working out how to get to your target as quick as possible. Everything else is generally average to bad. My biggest gripe is how you need to take every jump at the exact right angle otherwise Eizo will fly off in some stupid direction. It's incredibly infuriating in that tomb with the switches and timers.

Diagonal jumps were just awful in the game. It kept making me think something was wrong with my controller but no other game gives me the same issues like with that one. Almost always when I was in a hurry I would jump forward or to the left or right when I needed to go diagonal.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 24, 2010, 03:15:01 AM
The game actually felt like it gave you maybe 20 degrees of correction, which was usually more than enough especially compared to games like Mirror's Edge.  At a couple parts, the camera might have been too far away or at an odd angle and I ended up misjudging how far it was to take a jump but it was far less challenging getting from point A to B then figuring out where you need to go.

I'm only up to the 7th sequence but I agree with everything you've written. The actual fighting is terrible, just wait for a combo or dodge, using thins like sweeps or disarms rarely work.
It sounds like you just need more practice on your timing.  The fastest and most common way that I killed people was by disarming them or by countering them with the hidden blades.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on January 24, 2010, 03:22:06 AM
The really amazing moments are when you are trying to work out how to scale a massive tower, or working out how to get to your target as quick as possible. Everything else is generally average to bad. My biggest gripe is how you need to take every jump at the exact right angle otherwise Eizo will fly off in some stupid direction. It's incredibly infuriating in that tomb with the switches and timers.

Diagonal jumps were just awful in the game. It kept making me think something was wrong with my controller but no other game gives me the same issues like with that one. Almost always when I was in a hurry I would jump forward or to the left or right when I needed to go diagonal.

It's a bit odd how the AC games feel like you are playing with an 8-way joystick when you are free running.  You can only jump U,UR,R,DR,D,DL,L,UL and nothing inbetween.  I guess the alternative is to have you auto-lock to platforms when you jump within range like how Infamous did it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 24, 2010, 07:01:48 AM
One of the things that bothers me about AC2 (and AC1 as well) is that I'll occasionally try to scale up a wall only to have my character sprint up it, and then JUMP off the wall in the opposite direction.  It's especially bad if I'm being pursued by guards, fuuuuuuuu
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on January 24, 2010, 11:06:05 AM
About the jumping thing, it does get annoying, but I found that letting off the right trigger and press "A" when you get to the ledge helps you control your movement and jumps better, thought it means you lose some of that speed you built up.

also, I enjoyed the combat for as broken as it was.  A bit into the game I decided to just use taunts and bare hands to fight enemies.  Doing the "grab -> stab on the ground" gets boring.  And if I could, I would try to lose enemies or stealth kill rather than getting into combat.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 24, 2010, 05:34:36 PM
And if I could, I would try to lose enemies or stealth kill rather than getting into combat.

That's probably why I'm so shit at it. I usually run away and hide because I'd rather do that than get into the real combat.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: chronovore on January 24, 2010, 06:20:00 PM
One of the things that bothers me about AC2 (and AC1 as well) is that I'll occasionally try to scale up a wall only to have my character sprint up it, and then JUMP off the wall in the opposite direction.  It's especially bad if I'm being pursued by guards, fuuuuuuuu

I accidentally did that a lot in AC1 but haven't yet done it in AC2. I may be releasing the trigger before pressing A Button. Fighting the controls is the lamest part of any game, but it's especially noticeable in games that try to autocorrect for you 90% of the time.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 25, 2010, 11:36:03 PM
$60 on PC

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/25/assassins-creed-2-pc-specs-date-revealed/


Time to start the whining and boycotts PC gamers!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 25, 2010, 11:38:17 PM
well at least it includes the DLC.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 25, 2010, 11:40:10 PM
well at least it includes the DLC.

Which Valve gives out for FREE!   :teehee

Have PC gamers been reduced to this!

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Yes, I'm trolling.
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Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: archie4208 on January 25, 2010, 11:45:39 PM
AC2 at 1080p, 4x AA and 60 fps. :drool

Will pirate day 1. :rock
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on January 25, 2010, 11:50:58 PM
yeah, it was known for a while that the PC version was sent to die.  I think they even said that the four month delay was so people would buy the console version instead of pirating and playing it on PC.  They went into it thinking the PC version would get heavily pirated and the best would be save console sales  :lol

But if you really do want this on PC, Amazon has it for $47 and they honor that price point even after they correct the price.  Steam sale 2011 is when I pick this up again for PC.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on January 26, 2010, 06:11:50 AM
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-4245-This-Week-s-Assassin-s-Creed-2-DLC-Won-t-Have-New-Achievements.html

Saves me some money
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on January 26, 2010, 01:38:24 PM
 :lol me too

Hopefully the next DLC adds some cheevs, then I'll get both
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 26, 2010, 05:15:40 PM
who would bother with that then? are people really desperate for more missions?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2010, 07:33:11 PM
who would bother with that then? are people really desperate for more missions?

Errrrr....before there were achievements people played games for the story and missions! :P

Why isn't this out yet?  I thought it was releasing today?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on January 26, 2010, 07:54:05 PM
Sometimes 360 Wednesday updates are held back until PS3 updates on Thursday.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2010, 08:22:12 PM
Its...Tuesday :P  I just thought they said the 26th.  Maybe it was a Wed update.  I'm really looking forward to having SOMETHING TO DO IN FORLI.  It was a huge waste to have an entire city that you skip because the content in the city wasn't done in time >_<
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 27, 2010, 06:09:21 AM
who would bother with that then? are people really desperate for more missions?

Errrrr....before there were achievements people played games for the story and missions! :P

Why isn't this out yet?  I thought it was releasing today?

If there's no achievements it seems to me that it's pretty trivial content in terms of length.

Anyway it sez on the game that the content is releasing on the 28th.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2010, 10:24:23 AM
Its...Tuesday :P  I just thought they said the 26th.  Maybe it was a Wed update.  I'm really looking forward to having SOMETHING TO DO IN FORLI.  It was a huge waste to have an entire city that you skip because the content in the city wasn't done in time >_<

yeah, wow  :-\

8 hours of falling in and out of sleep during boring classes will do that do you
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on January 27, 2010, 10:26:22 AM
who would bother with that then? are people really desperate for more missions?

Errrrr....before there were achievements people played games for the story and missions! :P

Why isn't this out yet?  I thought it was releasing today?

Sorry I dont want to pay for pieces of MY GAME that should have been there. This isnt some "cut content" - it WAS supposed to be there.

Borderlands? That's DLC. This isnt DLC.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 27, 2010, 10:32:29 AM
Honestly the game is long enough without the DLC (I would argue potentially too long as it is).


My problem with the DLC isn't that it was cut material. That stuff happens all the time. If I was just playing through the game for the first time, I would purchase it, but I don't feel any real need to go back to it now that I have completed it, especially if it doesn't have any new achievements. Especially since we already know the end of the story for this particular game.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2010, 11:03:40 AM
Yeah, you can't complain too much about AC2's DLC.  The game is a large game already and one of the biggest budget productions in recent years.

It just seems like they wanted to hit the winter deadline and that meant not finishing whatever was on the low priority list, aka Forli and the bottom sector of Florence.  It is kind of less incentive to play it now after knowing the ending and maxing all the gameplay stuff.  But if the missions are fun and it's a neat little short story, it'll be worth it.  AC2 showed the team writes fun little stories with historical characters.  Next month's DLC will be better because it'll be an entirely new location as well.

I'm guessing when they do a greatest hits version they'll put the chapters back in and it'll be a directors cut version that should flow better.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: maxy on January 27, 2010, 02:00:11 PM
EG is not impressed by DLC...5/10

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/assassins-creed-2-battle-of-forli-review (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/assassins-creed-2-battle-of-forli-review)

Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 27, 2010, 02:33:17 PM
So it's 6 missions that don't sound any better than the assassination contract side-missions and they can all be completed in an hour.  Sounds like a waste of money.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2010, 02:47:55 PM
Hmm, reviews are pretty shit for this.

Guess I'll pass.  Forli the city built for nothing...
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 27, 2010, 06:20:52 PM
Honestly the game is long enough without the DLC (I would argue potentially too long as it is)

I'm starting to think that. I've done a bunch of side missions (almost all the codex pages+glyphs, one seal to go) and I'm bored. I'm sick of the escort missions that make you fight, they're the cheapest of game design.

It's amazing how much I'll put up with just to finish the story.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on January 27, 2010, 11:03:43 PM
theres a temple in Forli and some feathers, thats good enough, shut your pie hole
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: archie4208 on January 27, 2010, 11:09:31 PM
Getting the 360 version from Goozex soon.  I'm excited. :hyper
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 28, 2010, 09:00:18 AM
I'm trying to download the Battle of Forli DLC and it's appearing as costing 99,999 spacebucks.  wtf?  Has this happened to anybody else?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 28, 2010, 07:00:10 PM
I was able to download it now.  Since I only just started memory segment 5, I guess I'm a little far away from the Battle of Forli but this way, when I get to it, it'll feel like a natural part of the game and not just an add-on, hopefully.

So far, the races can be pretty frustrating, but when you finally beat one (usually takes me at least two or three tries), you do get a nice sense of accomplishment.  The assassinations and courier assignments have been fairly easy thus far.  I've been trying to hunt for feathers as much as possible but I only have 20 so far.  I don't know if I'll be able to find all of them without a FAQ and I don't know if I want to bother.  They're basically the same as the flag hunts from the first AC game, except they seem a little easier to find since they seem to always be on rooftops.  I wish there was a guide that at least told you how many feathers were left in each town/city.

One thing I'm glad they got rid of from the first AC was the pickpocketing missions.  Pickpocketing in the first AC was frustrating and very unfun, probably the worst part of the game IMO.  This time pickpocketing is easy even though you don't get much money for it so I don't really see the point. :lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 28, 2010, 07:09:44 PM
Just downloaded the Battle of Forli DLC. Haven't finished AC2 yet, though, so it will be a while until I can try it out.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 28, 2010, 07:11:47 PM
There's no reason to pickpocket ever once you get the achievement. You get more money finding treasure chests or buying stuff. It's completely pointless, especially since it's likely to raise your notoriety.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 28, 2010, 07:19:43 PM
There's no reason to pickpocket ever once you get the achievement. You get more money finding treasure chests or buying stuff. It's completely pointless, especially since it's likely to raise your notoriety.

It sounds like I'm kicking the game because everytime I post it's negative and that's wasn't my overall thought on the game but overall most of the mechanics are pointless. Most of them are introduced for some one off mission and then you never need to do any of it again. It's like the fighting. There is all this stuff to it and weapons, and upgrading and tools but honestly you can just button mash and get the same results. The whole game works like that. You don't have to do any of it so it all just ends up feeling pointless.

Perfect example was how you can upgrade your medicine pouch to hold more. I think I did it once to 5 and then promptly forgot you could upgrade it more because your health is never an issue in that game. You never need 5 health packs. The only time I took damage is when I jumped too high from buildings and hit the ground. I found out later you could upgrade it to something like 15. But it's sort of a perfect example. I forgot that aspect was in the game because I never needed it. It's sort of symbolic of the whole game.   
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 28, 2010, 07:21:41 PM
The achievement the only reason I'm doing it.  Same reason I keep throwing florins on the ground and the same reason I'm going to keep hiring courtesans when I have the money to afford it.  :lol

Also, why would anyone pay to have notoriety lowered when you can just take down wanted posters?  Each wanted poster you take down lowers your notoriety by 25 while paying 500 florins lowers it by 50.  Way easier just to take down a couple of posters than to pay a herald some of your hard-earned cash.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Stoney Mason on January 28, 2010, 07:26:02 PM
Also, why would anyone pay to have notoriety lowered when you can just take down wanted posters?  Each wanted poster you take down lowers your notoriety by 25 while paying 500 florins lowers it by 50.  Way easier just to take down a couple of posters than to pay a herald some of your hard-earned cash.

Another perfect example.

At first I was like I'm not wasting my money! I'm going to take down these posters!

But then you have so much money it becomes faster and easier to simply pay those guys then start climbing things (and deal with the platforming in some cases)
By the end it just came down to whatever I was closest to on the map. If I was near the official I would kill him. If I was near the bribe dude I would bribe him. And if I was near a poster, I would take it down. Because in the end its the exact same thing with the exact same consequences. It became just what is the path of least resistance.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 28, 2010, 07:31:22 PM
I wish there was a guide that at least told you how many feathers were left in each town/city.
You can check how many feathers you have left in each city and even in each district in the DNA sequences menu (the big red DNA strand that's broken into pieces).
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 28, 2010, 07:36:52 PM
Sweet, I did not know that.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on January 28, 2010, 08:56:51 PM
PROTIP: bribe the herald, then pickpocket him. You get your money back and it counts towards the pickpocket achievement....
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 28, 2010, 09:52:48 PM
The only real addition I like is being able to occupy guards with hookers and or thieves. It makes the codex pages amazingly simple to grab.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on January 29, 2010, 04:55:05 AM
I just kill all the guards and grab them, lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 29, 2010, 10:25:03 PM
Found all the codex pages and glyphs, was quite fun and not a chore at all. No achievement for the codex wall is distinguished mentally-challenged though

Only achievements I'll end up not getting are the feathers, and the two shitty fighting ones (4x sweep and 10x without getting hit).
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on January 29, 2010, 11:08:27 PM
Found all the codex pages and glyphs, was quite fun and not a chore at all. No achievement for the codex wall is distinguished mentally-challenged though

Only achievements I'll end up not getting are the feathers, and the two shitty fighting ones (4x sweep and 10x without getting hit).
Those were kind of easy actually.  Go to big-ass palace in the middle of Venice and get all the guards around it to start chasing you, throw a smoke bomb, and it's easy.  The one challenging thing is that you can't sprint when carrying a spear.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 29, 2010, 11:57:02 PM
well im still not finding those feathers. I have 23 from not trying and that's enough
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on January 30, 2010, 11:39:10 PM
:rofl @ the almost final battle

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totally trivial if you use throwing knives
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terrible ending
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Powerslave on February 04, 2010, 06:20:50 PM
Ass Ass in Creed 2
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on February 04, 2010, 07:50:31 PM
terrible ending

:( 
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 04, 2010, 08:06:46 PM
I'm doing memory sequence 9 now.  Good stuff, good stuff.  Should I bother getting the feathers?  If you get 100, you get the Auditore cape, but I don't know what that would be good for, if anything.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: brawndolicious on February 04, 2010, 08:44:36 PM
Just achievements I think.  Some capes do make you less suspicious to guards but I dunno about the auditore one.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 05, 2010, 12:30:58 AM
It would be hilarious if the Auditore cape immediately made you notorious everywhere except the Villa. :lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on February 05, 2010, 03:33:09 AM
Auditore cape -does- make you instantly notorious everywhere
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 05, 2010, 03:50:39 AM
hahahahaha, fucking AWESOME. :lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on February 05, 2010, 07:37:23 AM
^ owned
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 05, 2010, 07:14:57 PM
Owned for actually guessing correctly what the cape would do?

Seems you're the one who got owned for thinking I was owned. :smug
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 18, 2010, 11:05:17 PM
Bonfire of the Vanities DLC is out, did anyone get it?  I downloaded it yesterday night but haven't had the chance to play it yet.  Definitely playing it when I get home, though.  I wonder how the sprint jump will change how the game plays.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on February 18, 2010, 11:43:40 PM
Not holding high hopes after the Forli stuff
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on February 19, 2010, 05:36:14 AM
no achievements = no sale
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2010, 04:53:06 AM
Got both dlc+secret locations. 

Did the Forli one tonight and I think it got a bad rap.  Sure it's the least likeable gameplay types in AC2 (escort, timed missions, chasing after people, lots of forced fights with large numbers and no smoke bombs) but if you are the type of person who enjoys AC2 for the story experience the narrative stringing the missions together is enjoyable and even the weakest AC2 gameplay is still pretty fun.  It wasn't "great", but it was a fun hour that was worth $4-5.  Looking forward to doing the Florence one tomorrow since I hear it's a lot stronger and mainly assassin missions which is the game strongpoint.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: The Sceneman on February 20, 2010, 07:22:11 AM
no achievements = no sale
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: cool breeze on February 20, 2010, 12:29:57 PM
I was set to buy the second one until I heard the new acrobatic ability was a stupid springboard that sometimes appears on roof times and lets you do a long jump.  I thought it would be something cool that makes all climbing easier like that one leaping skill.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2010, 07:52:48 PM
Finished the DLC & Secret Locations.  Was not very good afterall. 
It's a lot of content.  Took me about 4 hours for all of it combined.  But it's like 4 hours of the lowest quality AC2 gameplay and that is kind of fun for an hour or two but overstays its welcome.

The 2nd DLC with the new section in Florence is weird.  The section only has 1 unique looking area and 6 viewpoints.  There are no treasures and no feathers, so there's little incentive to explore.  Half the new missions don't even take place in the new area of Florence and instead are just in the main city.  It's basically just "hey, go kill these 9 people spread out in the city" and each kill mission has a 15 second cutscene and 15 second death talk after you kill the guy.  Some of them are a little creative, but what KILLS about half of them is there are "kill the person without being spotted while always in max notoriety and we're putting the people in really hard to get to spots so you can't cheap shot them".  It's fun but having it desynch and load and start you over anytime anyone spots you gets tiresome.  For 1 guy it's ok.  But then when you finally kill the guy and you get to do the same thing for FOUR MORE GUYS, it's kind *groaaan*  There's not much plot in the 2nd DLC either.

The hidden locations were a mixed bag.  The Florence one was ok, nothing great, nothing terrible.  Just a little platforming, a little kill guys.  The boat aresenal one in Venice was kinda lame, and the other one in Venice was just another ubi singapore church linear platforming with checkpoints which was good fun but still easy.

I really don't think anyone who doesn't play the DLC is missing out out anything.  It was okkkkk and enough content for $10, but the quality of the content was pretty mediocre.  Better to put that money towards AC2-2 and ROME (with hopefully good mission design). 

On the plus side the DLC finally gave me a reason to start using the pistol since it made some of the really annoying kills, just slightly annoying insead.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 20, 2010, 09:01:52 PM
I used the pistol a ton near the end of the game.  Makes assassinating people without getting spotted so easy.

BTW, can't you just wear the Medici cape to remove notoriety?
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 20, 2010, 09:55:16 PM
I thought the game wouldn't let you wear the Medici cape, or at least it wouldn't let me equip it when I tried.  They probably want you to have to do all those assassinations with full notoriety just to lengthen the thing out.

I didn't bother with downloading the first AC2 DLC until Bonfire came out 'cause I figured it be less frustrating that way and now that I've finished both of them, I kinda think that the first DLC is the stronger of the two.  I know it's short as hell but at least it was focused.  Bonfire was basically like your standard side quest assassinations with the difficulty turned up. Like Bebpo, I was really hoping for a little more variety here.  There's only so many "kill the guy without being seen" missions I can take - btw, fuck that dude on the boat.  I don't know how many times I had to restart that one.

I think I know why they took out memory 13 now - it's pure drudgery.  AC2 actually works better as a whole without it being there.  I guess at least gives you another reason to back and play a little more AC2 after the fact but if that was in there from the beginning it would've made the game feel like it just hit the emergency break.  A total pace killer.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on February 20, 2010, 10:11:39 PM
I thought the game wouldn't let you wear the Medici cape, or at least it wouldn't let me equip it when I tried.  They probably want you to have to do all those assassinations with full notoriety just to lengthen the thing out.

I didn't bother with downloading the first AC2 DLC until Bonfire came out 'cause I figured it be less frustrating that way and now that I've finished both of them, I kinda think that the first DLC is the stronger of the two.  I know it's short as hell but at least it was focused.  Bonfire was basically like your standard side quest assassinations with the difficulty turned up. Like Bebpo, I was really hoping for a little more variety here.  There's only so many "kill the guy without being seen" missions I can take - btw, fuck that dude on the boat.  I don't know how many times I had to restart that one.

I think I know why they took out memory 13 now - it's pure drudgery.  AC2 actually works better as a whole without it being there.  I guess at least gives you another reason to back and play a little more AC2 after the fact but if that was in there from the beginning it would've made the game feel like it just hit the emergency break.  A total pace killer.

YES

I was getting really pissed off with that guy.  They are such dicks by putting him in the center of the boat but kinda below and back so you can't just snipe him or jump him from anywhere.  Was ridiculous.  I'm not even sure what the "correct" way was supposed to be.  I got lucky and one time when I climbed up the back, instead of killing the 2 guys in front of the wheel (which always alerts everyone and ends it) I walked right behind them and threw a smoke bomb.  This made the entire boat full of people start coughing and I quickly dropped down and stabbed the main guy.

And yeah, I thought the first DLC was better despite the escort missions.  At least the first one had a story going and some variety.  The 2nd one barely had any plot and was just the same thing 9 times until you were sick of it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 21, 2010, 09:19:56 AM
I ended up being able to kill everyone on the boat oustide of the two big guys that were directly in front of the target.  The guy on the dock went first, then the two patrolling the left side of boat, next was the guy on the opposite side that walked up to the very back, I then took out the two by the wheel with a double assassination which got me some attention but not enough to have to make me start over, and finally I was able to take out the remaining guards that went to the wheel to investigate.  That took me quite awhile to get right though.  It's definitely the hardest assasination in the game, imo.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on February 21, 2010, 07:18:45 PM
Not holding high hopes after the Forli stuff

Looks like I was correct :smug
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 21, 2010, 07:59:38 PM
I already got the Bonfire of the Vanities DLC and you guys are sooo making me not wanna play it. :(
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on February 21, 2010, 08:38:08 PM
I already got the Bonfire of the Vanities DLC and you guys are sooo making me not wanna play it. :(

Some of it is fun!  Just some of the assassinations are kinda annoying.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2010, 06:12:59 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/33230/

Quote
A PERMANENT HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNECTION AND CREATION OF A UBISOFT ACCOUNT ARE REQUIRED TO PLAY THIS VIDEO GAME AT ALL TIMES AND TO UNLOCK EXCLUSIVE CONTENT. SUCH CONTENT MAY ONLY BE UNLOCKED ONE SINGLE TIME WITH A UNIQUE KEY. YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 13 TO CREATE A UBISOFT ACCOUNT WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT. UBISOFT MAY CANCEL ACCESS TO ONLINE FEATURES UPON A 30-DAY PRIOR NOTICE PUBLISHED AT http://assassinscreed.com

:lol
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 22, 2010, 06:44:11 PM
Wow. PC owners annihilated.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: archie4208 on February 22, 2010, 06:54:56 PM
Single player is an online feature.  Have fun with your worthless game when Ubi takes down the servers in two years! :teehee
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Fragamemnon on February 22, 2010, 07:02:00 PM
I'll buy it in a couple of months for $25 and not think twice about the DRM outside of sorta being miffed that I won't be able to goozex it when I'm done with it.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2010, 07:06:45 PM
It's not really news, since we knew about the "always online" feature from Settlers, but the Ubisoft giving 30 days notice part is interesting and new.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 28, 2010, 12:39:11 PM
Oh for fucks sake.  I just found out that the Bonfire DLC I downloaded wasn't the full DLC.  I unknowingly downloaded the barebones one with just the assassination missions but minus the Assassin tombs - the part that I really wanted to play.  And since I can't download the tombs individually, I have to spend another 500+ space bucks to redownload the entire bonfire DLC again with the tombs if I want to play it.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY MAKE 2 VERSIONS OF THIS SHIT?  Fuck Ubisoft.  Fuck AC2.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on February 28, 2010, 12:45:20 PM
yawn, consumer complaining about something he didnt take the time to read about. havent seen this before.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bebpo on February 28, 2010, 05:01:14 PM
Oh for fucks sake.  I just found out that the Bonfire DLC I downloaded wasn't the full DLC.  I unknowingly downloaded the barebones one with just the assassination missions but minus the Assassin tombs - the part that I really wanted to play.  And since I can't download the tombs individually, I have to spend another 500+ space bucks to redownload the entire bonfire DLC again with the tombs if I want to play it.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY MAKE 2 VERSIONS OF THIS SHIT?  Fuck Ubisoft.  Fuck AC2.

If it helps, you aren't missing much.  2 of the 3 are meh, 1 is enjoyable but really easy and short compared to the tombs in the main game.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on February 28, 2010, 07:22:41 PM
Oh for fucks sake.  I just found out that the Bonfire DLC I downloaded wasn't the full DLC.  I unknowingly downloaded the barebones one with just the assassination missions but minus the Assassin tombs - the part that I really wanted to play.  And since I can't download the tombs individually, I have to spend another 500+ space bucks to redownload the entire bonfire DLC again with the tombs if I want to play it.

WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY MAKE 2 VERSIONS OF THIS SHIT?  Fuck Ubisoft.  Fuck AC2.

Yeah, I did the same fucking goddamn thing. :duh

But then I realised I often don't like dungeons as they can be a bit too cramped for the camera, I'm really just pushing through them to get Altair's armour.  So I felt a bit better after realising that.

Still, I agree they're a bunch of fucking assholes for such a distinguished mentally-challenged way of doing it.  I'll keep my 200 pts and they can fuck off.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 28, 2010, 07:45:00 PM
I didn't even realize there was a version of the DLC that unlocked the extra maps till someone on EB said it a few days ago.  I just bought the one that was announced on Live.  I would've bought the one with the extra maps if I'd seen that, but now I'm not even gonna bother.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on February 28, 2010, 07:51:25 PM
Yeah, when I downloaded Bonfire I clicked on the Bonfire "advert" that was on the XBL main page, then it directed me to buy it.  I didn't see any mention of two seperate DLC packs.  Kind of a dick move on thier part.

Oh well.  Sounds like I didn't miss too much.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Bildi on February 28, 2010, 08:18:36 PM
So just between us three they've missed out on 600 points.

Take that Ubisoft!
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on February 28, 2010, 08:28:29 PM
Ubisoft annihilated. :rock

Kind of pisses me off that those DLC maps are technically already in the game, though.  You're just downloading unlock keys.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Tieno on March 29, 2010, 06:13:04 PM
Started playing the game. Really digging it so far, I'm liking the historical setting. The game feels more historical than the first one. Really like that.
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 07:25:38 PM
The game is awesome. :rock
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: demi on March 29, 2010, 07:32:46 PM
My friend found this, he's gonna throw it my way:

(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs425.snc3/24561_113058918705799_100000050749436_263533_1626151_n.jpg)

Big GameStop poster thing
Title: Re: Assassin's Creed 2
Post by: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 09:08:28 PM
I want the pre-order statuette of Ezio.  I saw two they have on display at the local import store and it actually looks pretty cool.  There are two versions - one with his regular armor like on the poster demi just showed, and another with Altair's armor equipped and dressed all in black.