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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: SantaC on November 19, 2009, 12:14:08 PM

Title: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: SantaC on November 19, 2009, 12:14:08 PM: While NSMB Wii is a fun game at co-op, EAD is pretty much outclassed by AlphaDream's Mario & Luigi 3.

Damn, I am 20 hours into M&L3 and this is a really fun game. The overworld is just huge, and it might be bigger than any 2D Zelda game to date. I am also loving the diffrent special attacks, and for the first time it feels the stylus is of good use.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: magus on November 19, 2009, 02:09:51 PM: i didn't really like it... making half of the game inside bowser was a bad idea as he make for boring dungeons,the battle are still the same deal,they are nice but this is like the... (let me count them) 7th mario rpg that uses the timed hit system,the
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the music is just kinda bland (final boss theme excluded) and i felt like punching a baby everytime the game stops you from doing what are you doing so you can play a crappy mini game (this happen near the ending too!) mostly important of all the game just seems devoid of any fun moment or character...
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: Beezy on November 19, 2009, 02:48:53 PM: who?
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 19, 2009, 02:50:41 PM: Quote from: Beezy on November 19, 2009, 02:48:53 PM
who?

The company that's made the three Mario & Luigi games and...not much else.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: Himu on November 19, 2009, 02:58:06 PM: Who?
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 19, 2009, 03:31:55 PM: (http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2008/02/07/who_narrowweb__300x310,0.jpg)
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: demi on November 19, 2009, 04:13:42 PM: Yeah this isn't a good game. Sorry. You thought Zelda was repetitive...
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: Bildi on November 19, 2009, 04:50:24 PM: I found Mario & Luigi pretty darn boring. Can't imagine playing any more games in that series.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 19, 2009, 06:20:11 PM: Mario and Luigi 2 was a piece of shit. The game was extremely boring, extremely repetitive, and made artificially long by having enemies with huge HP. Not that battles were a challenge: once you mastered the piss easy timing defense scheme, it would almost be shameful to lose any HP in a regular battle.

M&L3 has an interesting premise but it doesn't sound like anything changed, battle or gameplay wise. Better luck next time, Alphadream.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: SantaC on November 20, 2009, 08:42:16 AM: Quote from: T EXP on November 19, 2009, 06:20:11 PM
Mario and Luigi 2 was a piece of shit. The game was extremely boring, extremely repetitive, and made artificially long by having enemies with huge HP. Not that battles were a challenge: once you mastered the piss easy timing defense scheme, it would almost be shameful to lose any HP in a regular battle.

M&L3 has an interesting premise but it doesn't sound like anything changed, battle or gameplay wise. Better luck next time, Alphadream.

eh M&L3 are miles ahead of M&L2
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 26, 2009, 08:20:10 PM: I'm about 6 hours in. I liked it a lot at the start but it's starting to feel like a slog.

I just arrived at Bowser's Castle as Bowser.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 29, 2009, 10:19:35 PM: This game kinda sucks
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: Beezy on December 29, 2009, 10:51:12 PM: :lol
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: Rman on December 29, 2009, 10:52:58 PM: I tried playing the first Mario and Luigi, while it was fun at first, it was poorly paced and I gave up near the end. There was a terrible backtracking mission, where you had to collect star pieces--classic Nintendo.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2009, 12:29:35 AM: Quote from: SantaC on November 19, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
While NSMB Wii is a fun game at co-op, EAD is pretty much outclassed by AlphaDream's Mario & Luigi 3.

just no
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 30, 2009, 08:25:30 AM: This game has worse pacing than M&L1. That game played out almost like a Zelda adventure. This one is more like Valkyria Chronicles - 10 minutes of gameplay to earn 3 minutes of dialogue.

It's EXTREMELY linear. The Mario/Luigi sections are extremely straightforward because they are flat 2D, and the Bowser areas are extremely straightforward because he can't jump or do fucking anything so he just walks around punching/burning rocks/trees. They just push you along from area to area with no real reason to continue since the story sucks and takes itself too seriously.

New items/weapons/etc are few and far between so that aspect of progression is kinda gone too. There are constant minigames that last 2 minutes and require a 5 minute tutorial, then are never heard from again.

The areas are fairly mundane. If you're going to make a game more linear at least use that opportunity to make tighter environments. You're also lucky to see more than one type of enemy in an area, and you're lucky if he has more than 2 attacks. They make up for this by making every enemy's single attack hit you multiple times and be difficult to predict.

I finally drew the line when I was in a Bowser dungeon that seemed to go on pretty far on the map. Every screen has two stupid train guys on it who take a good 6-8 hits to kill. Bowser gets to attack once, but once the train gets his turn he bum rushes you 3 times and you have half a second to know if you have to duck or punch. He does about 15% of your health in damage for each successful hit. Repeat 50x and maybe you can listen to the little yellow guy go on and on.

Oh and if you do manage to get through all the game's environments, apparently you spit out Mario and Luigi and they get to go back over all the environments you already went through as Bowser. Only now you can jump on those hundreds of ledges you saw with an item block on them.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 10:58:55 AM: Told yall. 1 > 3 > 2

Time to get on the Devil Survivor train WOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 30, 2009, 06:29:41 PM: I still got further in 2 lol.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 06:30:21 PM: Quote from: a slime appears on December 30, 2009, 11:58:24 AM
Pass

RUN A TRAIN ON DAT ASS WOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 06:30:44 PM: Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 30, 2009, 06:29:41 PM
I still got further in 2 lol.

2 is garbage just because of the babies. Nothing will redeem it.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: bork on December 30, 2009, 06:33:14 PM: I never paid attention to this thread before. So a turn-based RPG is better than a 2D platformer? I definitely thought about that comparison the first time I played NSMB Wii.
Title: Re: AlphaDream > Nintendo EAD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 30, 2009, 06:34:12 PM: Quote from: demi on December 30, 2009, 06:30:44 PM
Quote from: AdmiralViscen on December 30, 2009, 06:29:41 PM
I still got further in 2 lol.

2 is garbage just because of the babies. Nothing will redeem it.

Don't get me wrong, that game is ass too.