THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Stoney Mason on December 02, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
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No real info here other than that DICE is doing the MP which is almost certainly better than EA proper doing it.
LOS ANGELES--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Medal of Honor™ returns to the front lines, this time in today’s war. For the first time in the franchise’s 10-year history, Medal of Honor is leaving the WWII theatre and putting players in war-torn Afghanistan. Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS) today revealed that in 2010, Medal of Honor, an all-new first-person shooter game, will introduce the Tier 1 Operator: a relatively unknown entity directly under the National Command Authority who takes on missions no one else can handle. The development team has been working closely with Tier 1 Operators from the U.S. Special Operations Community since the earliest stages of development to create the most authentic modern war experience. Inspired by real events, Medal of Honor reveals the mission of today’s most elite American soldier – his will, his mindset and his uncompromising professionalism.
Medal of Honor is being built with a best-in-class single-player campaign. The Medal of Honor development team at EALA has been hand-selected by the studio leadership of General Manager Sean Decker, Executive Producer Greg Goodrich and Senior Creative Director Rich Farrelly. To compliment the single-player experience, EALA has enlisted the multiplayer expertise at EA DICE. This team will develop the multiplayer experience of Medal of Honor. These two studios are coming together to deliver a world-class Medal of Honor that is poised to re-set the franchise for a new generation.
“When we first set out to reinvent Medal of Honor, we wanted to stay true to its roots of authenticity and respect for the soldier but bring it into today’s war. The Tier 1 Operator is the most disciplined, deliberate and prepared warrior on the battlefield. He is a living, breathing, precision instrument of war,” said Greg Goodrich, Executive Producer, Medal of Honor. “We are honored to have the rare opportunity to work closely with these men to create a game that shares their experience.”
“EA has always been an advocate for telling the soldiers’ story. The new Medal of Honor follows that tradition. We felt it was important to tell the story of today’s war and today’s elite soldiers via today’s most relevant medium – videogames,” said Sean Decker, VP and General Manager of EALA. “We are so proud to bring together two powerhouse development teams to make this game a reality; EA Los Angeles and EA DICE. Medal of Honor promises to be an unforgettable entry in the modern shooter genre.”
More information and a full trailer will be released as part of Spike TV's VGA award show on December 12th.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEj2izleTds[/youtube]
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Edit: Holy Fucking Shit, they brought in DICE members to help? Eat your heart out, IW.
Yes. I'm sure IW is in a corner weeping. :lol
On topic I'm perfectly neutral towards the game. Hopefully it will be good. I always welcome more good games on the market and certainly Medal of Honor needs a reboot because the series had become irrelevant. I'll reserve judgement until it comes out.
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a non-WWII MoH? No thanks.
Its too bad, because I thought that Airborne had some great ideas.
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a non-WWII MoH? No thanks.
The World War 2 nostalgia wave is over.
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Hahahahaha, Eel found crying
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Sweet. I guess it's Afghanistan for sure now, though. God damned desert settings.
Then again, Afghanistan has a shitload of high peaks, so maybe not.
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Yeah, because US soldiers are totally allowed to rock ZZ Top beards
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"We felt it was important to tell the story of today’s war and today’s elite soldiers via today’s most relevant medium – videogames."
:rofl
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Yeah, because US soldiers are totally allowed to rock ZZ Top beards
As far as I know, beards are common amongst special operations soldiers in Afghanistan. Allegedly it makes it a lot easier to blend in, and gain the trust (relatively speaking) of the locals.
[youtube=560,345]m9sOgjpmd4c[/youtube]
Medal of Honor games have always sucked, so this probably won't be any different.
Medal of Honor Airborne had plenty of awesome. Hopefully they keep the cover system.
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Say hello to Jay-Z and "bling, bling, distinguished black fellows" in MoH.
:yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck
Nothing they have said about the game so far suggests any of that. Almost the opposite.
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Call of Honor: Medal of Modern Warfare
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Call of Honor: Medal of Modern Warfare
pretty much. at least DICE know how to do multiplayer though
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I'm just hoping for at least one quiet mission in the mountains. I can't see them doing just Kabul.
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Wow, I stand corrected on the beards
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I like that dude having a beard is such a big fucking deal everywhere but nobody said shit about Soaps Mohawk thing.
Yeah but Soap is in the XTREME FORCES
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I still think my unproduced idea of a blatant Gears of War-clone starring Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage equipped with Gatling guns and explosive arrows fighting the Iron Shiek in 1980s Afghanistan is better than this.
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I still think my unproduced idea of a blatant Gears of War-clone starring Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage equipped with Gatling guns and explosive arrows fighting the Iron Shiek in 1980s Afghanistan is better than this.
(http://ll-100.ea.com/nawp/na/u/f/GPO/eagames/armyoftwo/tfd/TFDXbox360boxart.jpg)
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I still think my unproduced idea of a blatant Gears of War-clone starring Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage equipped with Gatling guns and explosive arrows fighting the Iron Shiek in 1980s Afghanistan is better than this.
I'd watch that.
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I still think my unproduced idea of a blatant Gears of War-clone starring Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage equipped with Gatling guns and explosive arrows fighting the Iron Shiek in 1980s Afghanistan is better than this.
(http://ll-100.ea.com/nawp/na/u/f/GPO/eagames/armyoftwo/tfd/TFDXbox360boxart.jpg)
Nowhere close.
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This could be cool. For what it's worth, it's not like other shooters that seem to do what I'm assuming this new MoH is trying to do. The two big modern combat games are Bad Company 2 and CoD4/MW2, and neither of those are really straight forward desert combat stuff.
But really, I hope it's Fugitive Hunter 2.
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Oh man, I totally forgot about AoT. Next year is going to be great for EA fans like myself.
... So next year will be a great year for pretty much you.
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Oh man, I totally forgot about AoT. Next year is going to be great for EA fans like myself.
:lol
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Army of Two Two looks pretty snazzy. Soda cans as makeshift suppressors. :rock
[youtube=560,345]0I4_Pm51pWM[/youtube]
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I still think my unproduced idea of a blatant Gears of War-clone starring Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy Savage equipped with Gatling guns and explosive arrows fighting the Iron Shiek in 1980s Afghanistan is better than this.
Games that awesome can never be made.
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Why the hell hasn't anyone made a good Vietnam game yet? I mean seriously, what the fuck?
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Why the hell hasn't anyone made a good Vietnam game yet? I mean seriously, what the fuck?
Because people like to forget Vietnam since we didn't win.
Speaking of which, I wonder how Battlefield Vietnam runs on a modern rig.
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Why the hell hasn't anyone made a good Vietnam game yet? I mean seriously, what the fuck?
Because people generally want to play in circumstances where we "won" rather than "lost". Not that I'm a big fan of Treyarch but there are rumours that the next COD game from them is going to be in the Vietnam era.
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lul. It's Warfare in Modern times. Medal of Honor: Recent Fighting.
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Shame that Americans are so insecure. A Vietnam war game could potentially have a lot of fresh atmosphere.
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Shame that Americans are so insecure. A Vietnam war game could potentially have a lot of fresh atmosphere.
FPS kill em all videogames tend to not deal well with issues that aren't black and white with clear good guys and bad guys.
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But CoD is all about melodramatic war cinema! They'd eat that shit up!
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But CoD is all about melodramatic war cinema! They'd eat that shit up!
COD is about globe trotting heroes and taking down bad guys. A very traditional entertainment forumla. Dealing with something like Vietnam other than as a change of scenery is very difficult from an entertainment perspective.
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I suppose, but I think it could work. A lot of the major cinematic Vietnam themes have already been expressed in other CoD games. Troops brooding about how war is hell, the promising young draftee shot down in his prime, etc. The only difference is it wouldn't have those big epic later levels where you pound the shit out of the enemy and wave your flag or whatever. IW would probably see that as an opportunity to get all faux-artsy and melodramatic just like the airport scene in MW2.
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Infinity Ward should just do that space shooter and call it a day.
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Why the hell hasn't anyone made a good Vietnam game yet? I mean seriously, what the fuck?
Because people generally want to play in circumstances where we "won" rather than "lost". Not that I'm a big fan of Treyarch but there are rumours that the next COD game from them is going to be in the Vietnam era.
Then why are they making war games about Afghanistan? We ain't gonna win that shit.
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Then why are they making war games about Afghanistan? We ain't gonna win that shit.
A.) It's modern and relevant which always gives it a leg up on things that happened 40 years ago.
B.) While the conflict is going on, its human nature to cheerlead an on going event.
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There was actually a game about the 2003 Iraq invasion that came out like 6 months after the war started. I think it was supposedly good.
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Vietnam adventure game > shooter
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Vietnam adventure game > shooter
It would have a shoot self in leg to go home option.
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I want a Vietnam RPG, where you have to use opiates to heal your character and whores to heal your party.
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I want a Vietnam RPG, where you have to use opiates to heal your character and whores to heal your party.
Three party members rape a Vietnamese woman; you turn them in for war crimes. +24 paragon
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Smuggle a letter in your buttcrack to give to Jane Fonda, +3 Renegade. Quit lying about how bad the conditions are.
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Infinity Ward should just do that space shooter and call it a day.
that would be awesome. a Killzone-esque gritty sci-fi shooter that actually has fun shooting mechanics? droolcity
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The PC game Vietcong was pretty good.
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Then why are they making war games about Afghanistan? We ain't gonna win that shit.
The concept of winning or losing wars is a bit different these days. Vietnam was "lost" right away because the cause for the war was fuzzy at best, so it didn't take much for the public to sour on that one. Afghanistan is directly linked to the 9/11 thing, so it's different.
The best they can offer is for the player to win key battles and eliminate key individuals, so hopefully they don't venture too far outside of that.
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Just imagine Call of Duty: Halo for a moment. That would be the best selling game of all times.
No it wouldn't. People like the MW series because it is somewhat grounded in reality. Adding pew pew laz0rs and aliens would turn off alot of the customer base.
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Yeah, because US soldiers are totally allowed to rock ZZ Top beards
As far as I know, beards are common amongst special operations soldiers in Afghanistan. Allegedly it makes it a lot easier to blend in, and gain the trust (relatively speaking) of the locals.
[youtube=560,345]m9sOgjpmd4c[/youtube]
Medal of Honor games have always sucked, so this probably won't be any different.
Medal of Honor Airborne had plenty of awesome. Hopefully they keep the cover system.
(http://mimg.ugo.com/200912/31204/cuts/medal-of-honor-afghanistan-cowyboy_480x270.jpg)
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Fired up Airborne again, and some of the missions are still pretty damned good. I so hope they keep the lean and peek system from Airborne, best such system around (well, other than GRAW). Also, tweak the hit detection.
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Some of the environments were really good, especially the flak tower at the end. Too bad they had to fuck it up with HORRIBLE gameplay balance, spotty checkpoints and the super-nazi Terminators.
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I'll confess to that I've never finished the game. I just lost all interest once they started throwing those Wolfenstein enemies at me. The first couple of levels were hot stuff, though.
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Great game except the last level was dogshit because of having to constantly go up and down elevators and ladders and getting mowed down in a few shots by those super-soldiers which makes you have to do everything again. They really needed to either get rid of respawning enemies or make the levels more linear. Maybe with the sequel they'll give you more ways than just an airdrop to get into areas?
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(http://mimg.ugo.com/200912/31204/cuts/medal-of-honor-afghanistan-cowyboy_480x270.jpg)
My god, you could hide a badger in that. :bow
I feel like I've played at least 2 PC WWII-based Medal of Honors but I have no idea what they were called now. In other words, I have no problem with them rebooting the franchise at all. I just can't take another Omaha Beach level.
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more info
Greg Goodrich, the Executive Producer on Medal of Honor, has provided answers to community questions regarding the Medal of Honor trailer.
Q: Is that all gameplay footage throughout the trailer?
A: Yep, the trailer is 100% in-game footage.
Q: Where is the “bearded guy” that is on the box cover? I don’t believe I saw him in the trailer.
A: You are correct. The character on our box cover was not featured in our first trailer. But I can confirm that he is indeed a character in our game and will be revealed (along with his highly skilled and very specialized Tier 1 unit) in the near future.
Q: What exactly is a Tier 1 Operator? And what do they do?
A: Tier 1 is a category. It is not a unit designation or a name given to a specific task force. It is a term that is used to describe the level at which these operators perform and function. It also refers to their place within the national command structure. The term “Tier 1” can also be used to describe a specific unit’s ability to carry out missions that require the most highly skilled, proficient and disciplined group of warriors within the U.S. Special Operations Community. There are only a handful of units within the U.S. Government that are considered Tier 1. We have been given the rare opportunity to work closely with members of these units during the development of Medal of Honor.
Q: There was an ATV and a helicopter scene in the trailer. Can we expect to see some vehicular gameplay?
A: That is the plan. At minimum, you can expect the ones that you saw in the trailer ;-)
Q: The ending scene with the guy with a bomb attached to him gave me chills. Can we expect this darker feel/tone throughout the game?
A: This will be the very first (M) rated Medal of Honor. However, we will always be grounded by our core tenets of authenticity and respect for the soldier.
Q: There are some doors that get kicked in during the trailer. Can we expect breach and clear gameplay?
A: The player can do many cool things in the game, and kicking in doors is certainly one of them!
Q: Are you keeping the PC community in mind for this game? Please don’t do just a simple port!
A: We take the PC version of our game as seriously as we do any other version.
Q: How much of the game is based on real life, true events in Afghanistan?
A: Medal of Honor is “historical fiction” set against the backdrop of the current war in Afghanistan. Much like “Saving Private Ryan” is a fictional story told through the lens of a small band of characters during WWII.
Only noteworthy part is:
Q: There are some doors that get kicked in during the trailer. Can we expect breach and clear gameplay?
A: The player can do many cool things in the game, and kicking in doors is certainly one of them!
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Well, that and the fact that it's still based on a real conflict.
There is also a much better quality trailer available. PC version for sure.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_medal_of_honor_is_back-8820_en.html
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wow, the game looks super smooth in that video. Gametrailers really sucks ass. Is this game 60 fps on consoles?
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I can't see them getting this to run at 60fps on consoles, especially not with destructive environments. Bad Company 2 runs surprisingly well given the stuff it pushes, but still, that would be an ambitious target.
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New details have emerged today regarding EA’s complete reboot of the Medal of Honor franchise. Abandoning its long established World War Two setting, Medal of Honor will now position players amongst the ranks of Tier 1 Operatives within Afghanistan.
Regarding whether such games should be made, the Tier 1 Operatives – who are unnamed due to obvious reasons – state “Not if they’re done respectfully, no. And after speaking with EA, we have full confidence that the product they’re making will do the subject justice. It’s a game about honour, above all. If you look at the font of the logo it’s the word that stands out above all others.” Each are concerned that life in the military isn’t being correctly portrayed within the games industry (Wait, you can’t respawn in real life?) so such a stand point is an admirable one as long as the final game delivers, which it certainly looks like it has the potential to do.
Such sentiment is echoed by the trust that EA place within the Operatives, who are continually acting as consultants regarding the content of the upcoming title.They have full power over EA to ammend anything they feel isn’t authentic enough – be it character behaviour, dialogue and obviously weapon handling. This amount of input will obviously set apart the title from its rivals, with first hand knowledge of combat situations players are set to be “surprised by how some of the enemies respond to you, both in terms of tactics and the weapons they use,” explains Executive Producer Greg Goodrich.
Footage shown provided a first glimpse at an in-game mission which is already looking particularly impressive apparently. For those that don’t want to learn about it, skip past this paragraph! Within the trailer that was shown, US Soldiers work together in an attempt to storm a hut and having succeeded they enter inside. As they scour for intel and any enemies, a mobile phone rings at which point the whole shack explodes. Such situations like this are realistic to modern combat apparently, so their honest and brutal nature will be a refreshing representation within the FPS genre.
The story itself will be told from the perspective of several different operatives, providing unique experiences across a range of missions set in Afghanistan. Further examples include the use of disguises whilst meeting up with local informants.
Most interesting, is that we learn that Medal of Honor is set to divide its single-player portion into two sections intertwined into each other throughout the campaign. The first is as previously described, formulating around a series of Elite Op missions that see you on more secretive and specific objective based tasks. Alongside this however, is a Sledgehammer campaign that takes you away from playing as the Tier 1 Elite Ops, and will change the focus of the gameplay of being part of the standard issue military. These are on a far bigger scale than the Elite Op missions, with the player becoming engulfed as a small part of the overall war machine – rather than the tight city/ town environments, you will be placed in wide open Battlefield areas and granted more access to vehicles, helicopters and such like – there’s even a Quad Bike!
The gameplay elements will differ between both Elite Op and Sledgehammer, though EA haven’t currently gone into much more detail. From early footage, there were glimpses at a possible cover mechanic yet such details were speculative observation rather than current fact..
So, BF + Clancy + the Airborne lean system, and based on real campaigns. I really hope they don't screw this up (by, say, shittying up the A.I.), but it sounds like they have their priorities straight.
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Interview from OXM UK. I guess lean is definitely in. :rock
Why did you decide to push Medal of Honor into present times?
Well... why not? It's had a good run in World War II and when we looked at what we wanted to do, it was obvious this is where we wanted to be and the story picked the setting for us.
Medal of Honor is not a World War II franchise. We're not tied to any specific time frame.
So if the story led the design, just how important is the story to Medal of Honor?
Well it was a fairly complex story. it started out a lot bigger. In development you have to start out with 300% just to get 100% in the box and that's just what we did.
You've already talked about the Tier 1 Ops and bringing them on board. What difference does having them make?
It's a competitive advantage. We're doing a lot of things that will make gamers go 'wow' but it's definitely helped. They'll talk to us about the weapon systems that need changing, tactics, camouflage, things like that.
You've talked a lot about respect and honour when describing Medal of Honour. How much of that is in reaction to Modern Warfare 2's airport siege, especially as you've brought the Tier 1 guys on board?
Modern Warfare 2 wasn't even out when we started development on the game.
When I use honour, respect, authenticity and words like that, I'm not even thinking about the other ames that are out there. Our focus is just on Medal of Honor. Those things have always been there. Those are the core tenets of the series.
Having been in the cooker at EA LA since last June, Medal of Honor wants to win back past glories and then some. Before the presentation kicks off, we're reminded that this series is about authenticity and respect for the soldier. But this time, it's not the historic figure of the previous games in the series. In the same way that Call of Duty jumped forward in time from World Wars to modern day, Medal of Honor has done the same, with a new and extremely contemporary setting and towns that are all too familiar from current news footage.
Re-awakening
It's not just the settings that will breathe new life into the series. EA LA has also drafted in Tier 1 Ops soldiers to advise it. We'd never heard of them either, but we learn that Tier 1 Ops are the absolute cream of the crop special forces, the highest level of active operatives. Getting them on board was integral to Medal of Honor's development. "You can't just go and knock on their door and just say 'hey'" explains executive producer Greg Goodrich. "You have to meet someone at a certain level to gain their trust. Then they introduce you to somebody at the next level, then you gain their trust. And so on.. it's a long process".
"It helped with everything," Goodrich continues. "It wasn't even a sell. it was more: this is what we're doing and this is our product. It turned into 'let's meet next time you're around, let's do lunch or if you want to do mo-cap..' and over time we gained their trust. The barrier broke down when they saw one thing in the game that hit too close to home and we took it out immediately".
"I think they then realised we were actually going to listen to them," explains Richard Farrelly, senior creative director who is listening to Goodrich tell the story. "They didn't directly say 'take it out' but we saw it made them uncomfortable, so we took it out".
The 'one thing' in question, as Greg would later explain, is the death of one of the soldiers in a pivotal gameplay moment. As Greg later says, he's told by one of the Tier 1 Op guys that there's only four or five people in the world who have the right to tell that story and he's not one of them. So he took it out.
Welcome to combat
We're shown two big chunks - one is a trailer and the other is one of the developers playing through a different section. The trailer takes place in Shahikot Valley in Afghanistan and stitches together various bits of action as the men push through the sandy valleys and rubble huts, taking out enemies as they go. It's hard to judge the pacing from this but there's enough to pick up various clues. Scripted moments will return. Men will stack up outside doors before bursting through. You can lean around corners to fire. Most impressively, you'll get to pilot an attack chopper rather than just riding shotgun in one.
Next up is the gameplay demo. The level EA shows off takes place in the small town of Gardez, south-east of Kabul. You're being led by Voodoo through the streets at night, manning a turret gun on top of a jeep, as you're off to meet an informant. As you wind your way through the narrow streets, there's a sense that something is wrong. Cue panicked shouting about tangos - and then an RPG screams into the side of your keep. The panicked shouting turns into hoarse screaming which you can only just make out through the ringing of your ears, as you stagger back to your feet and use the upturned jeep wreckage for cover. Objective - secure courtyard. Now the fight is on.
Enemies dotted around the rooftops, the quick visual flash of bullets cutting through the air, background noise of angry shouting and a rat-tat-tat-tat competing for volume. It has the same basic structure as previous games in the series: it lays down the mess, the danger and the chaos and demands you pick a safe route through it. By clearing a few enemies off the rooftops and swinging around through a back-passage to the streets instead of across the courtyard, the level truly begins.
You then have to pick your way through a labyrinth of alley buildings and rubbish-strewn streets, as you eliminate the overwatch shooting down into the courtyard on your allies. Neat design touches abound: chunks of wall crumble down with every missed shot, the lights get taken out (which means switching to the green hum of night vision) and the demo ends with a neat scripted moment that seems like it will lead to even more peril for the player.
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Just read the Gamepro article, and there's a whole page of an interview just with the "Tier 1" dudes themselves. I'd be slightly nervous about fucking up the game if I was on that dev team.
Also, you're straight up fighting Al Qaeda (no imaginary enemy or campaign), and the demo bits they talked about are straight from the operation. Hot stuff.
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Dopey looking humans, but great looking environments.
I think I might be over wargames at this point tho. Gonna start up Modern Warfare 2 this weekend and see if I still like military FPS or not.
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moh:aiborne had huge environments so these up-close shots probably make it look a lot worse than it really is.
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Dopey looking humans, but great looking environments.
I think I might be over wargames at this point tho. Gonna start up Modern Warfare 2 this weekend and see if I still like military FPS or not.
This one seems a hell of a lot more bloody serious, so I'm not sure if MW2 is a good game to compare it to. I'd have snapped some shots from the Gamepro article, but the interest seemed low.
Also, another preview
http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/Feature/167434,medal-of-honor.aspx/1
"It's going to be awesome," he says when we ask him about the game beyond the bounds of singleplayer, "and I'll say this up front - it has to have dedicated servers." Sean's passion for the topic is unmistakeable, and he goes on to make us feel very excited indeed about Medal of Honor's multiplayer.
"There's no worse experience than the lobby, and voting, and host migration, and all that. It's a bad experience." Which, of course we totally agree with. And, since we know the game's going to have vehicles in the campaign, we hit him up about vehicles in multiplayer levels.
"Well, with DICE involved," he says, grinning, "I think you can assume we're going to touch on vehicle combat just a little."
We braced Greg on the subject of multiplayer as well. "The way we look at it, is you get the right team for the right job, and we have that. In the end it's like two great tastes that just have to go together, and you have to do it right."
"And all that great lighting? When you get bullet holes appearing in thin surfaces, you'll get point-beams of light flooding through," says Greg. Of course, the lighting guy (who we interrupted while he was working on getting cloth looking right in night-vision) blanched at hearing that. "Hey, I never promised anything!"
Well, we guess he has now. Even without such detail, the lighting engine is going to be a big part of the game, and Greg went on to say that even if his team can't get such impressive effects into the console version, they should at least be accessible on a PC that meets higher hardware requirements.
PC upgrade in Fall 2010 confirmed
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Meh, looks like Hour of Victory
(http://www.consolemonster.com/media/0000000348/screenshots/0000000348-L-62d9f2b.jpg)
wowee, right guys
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/medal-of-honor-preview
The level EA's currently unveiling is a night assault on an enemy-held mountain. The landscape is strewn with broken rocks and scrubby little patches of grass, the only light comes from distant campfires marking out enemy positions, and, playing as part of a squad, you're a Tier One advancing slowly into dangerous territory, with only the dark shapes of your nearby allies - and their precise, whispered commands in your earpiece - to keep you company.
The first encounter with the enemy is emblematic of the way you'll approach situations as an elite soldier. A gaggle of distant forms are gathered around a flickering campfire. Rather than wading straight in, your squad fans out around the edges of the area, each taking a target. It's a process that takes a surprisingly long time, given the zany pace of most action games, but it's all the more tense for it. Then, with just a few shots - resoundingly loud on the echoey hillside - everyone sat at the campsite is dead, and you're off again, moving further up the mountain.
The pacing is excellent throughout the 10-minute stretch of game on display - it should be, of course, given how little is being shown - and set-pieces are elegantly built from the sparsest of materials. An enemy patrol with a few flashlights is enough to create a moment or two of prickly tension, while rounding the crest of a hill and seeing a gunship blasting away in the distance only makes you feel like you're deeper under cover, in the middle of a complex and dynamic war, so hidden that your own allies might drop something nasty on you by mistake.
Blowing up an AA gun - the mini-objectives come thick and fast, and, no, some of them aren't particularly inspired - makes you realise how much a sound carries in this kind of environment, and later, when a proper firefight genuinely does kick off, as the scrubland and boulders give way to clusters of mud houses and narrow, overgrown alleyways, enemies are always closer than you expect, and the sound of gunfire really rattles in your ear after all that silence and heavy breathing.
Squad AI is hard to evaluate in such a heavily structured demo, but your colleagues certainly look the part at least, taking cover intelligently, wriggling forward over rocks, and providing helpful suppression fire if you're trying to flank.
And Medal of Honor looks the part too, blessed with a big-budget prettiness even in early pre-alpha code. The lighting is particularly good at capturing the glow of crackling flames, and the amount of detail available when you catch fleeting glimpses of an entire stretch of mountain riddled with tiny pockets of conflict is pretty astonishing, considering this is running on a (heavily adapted) version of the Unreal Engine 3, and that there's no visible pop-in to be seen.
It will be interesting to see how the game works when you're switching between roles in-between missions - how well the silent, pacey efficiency of the Tier One sections blends with something a lot more explosive - just as it will be interesting to see how the multiplayer, built by a separate team over at DICE, will fit into the overall package.
EA certainly doesn't seem to be worried about how difficult it will be to bring the whole thing together coherently. When I ask Farrelly what he thinks the Medal of Honor series means in a marketplace ruled by Infinity Ward, he has no trouble coming up with an answer. "It's still about the soldier's story, simply told. It's about understanding the world the soldier moves in, seeing the war up-close and at the sharp end."
It makes you hope, then, that Medal of Honor genuinely turns into the game that the developers are talking about: a punchy insight into a fascinating aspect of warfare where the drama is intimate and ragged, rather than bloated and unlikely. It would be a real shame for a game that starts like this - with that whispering trudge into enemy encampments - finishing off with Vladimir Putin driving a stunt car off the top of the Empire State Building. Thankfully, as the low-key presence of the odd goat is there to attest to, that isn't particularly likely to happen.
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Gamespot preview, some cool stuff
Hearing executive producer Greg Goodrich describe things, you'd wonder why a developer would want to use military advisors at all. He had just finished showing us a demo for the upcoming Medal of Honor reboot. It was a tense scene from early in the game--a group of Navy SEALs prowling though the Afghan mountains under cover of darkness. More than anything else, the sequence seemed intended to show the surgical precision with which these elite Tier 1 soldiers operated. Characters slid from one al Qaeda campfire to the next at a pace that was nothing short of brisk, dropping enemies before they heard the M4s go off. It was a ruthless level of efficiency on display, and it seemed that the only things keeping the player from falling behind--or off a cliff--were the objectives whispered from his squadmates. So, of course, when EA Los Angeles showed the demo to real-life SEALs, their only feedback was that they'd never speak a single word during a mission like this one. Silence is golden.
Such are the challenges of developing a game where the primary goal, according to Goodrich, is authenticity. There's a difficult balance to strike between what paints the most realistic picture of special military operations and what works as a fully functioning video game. Finding that balance has meant developers have had navigate the murky waters of a give-and-take relationship with the very Tier 1 operators depicted in the campaign. Sometimes, the result has been taking things out of the game that these elite soldiers can't afford to make public, and at other times--like the example mentioned above--the development team has had to politely disregard feedback in order to keep the game playable.
But for all the hiccups or roadblocks in this relationship, Goodrich says the developers have been able to draw from a mountain of helpful advice and stories. Case in point: The aforementioned demo is based on a real military operation, described to EA LA by some of the SEALs involved in it. It's the night before a major offensive, and the plans call for a group of army ranger cargo helicopters to pass through a particularly dangerous mountain range in Afghanistan. As part of a SEAL unit, you're sent in beforehand to eliminate a number of targets to give those Chinook helicopters a safer flight. An easier way of putting it might be this: You need to soften them up a little.
Fortunately, you've got advanced technology on your side. Toward the end of the demo, you see a fleet of enemy trucks coming up the pass. It looks as though these heavily armed vehicles are going to spell failure for your mission. But if you flip down your night-vision goggles to get a better look, you'll see a flashing strobe light on each truck. Off in the distance, a friendly airship fires a missile at this caravan and immediately wipes it out of the picture. Without any context, it seems like you've just been rescued by the military equivalent of magic and pixie dust. But as it so happens, those strobes were carefully planted by a different playable unit in an earlier level. That gradual intertwining of various Tier 1 missions is a key part of Medal of Honor's narrative. And as an example that "narrative" doesn't have to equal "fiction," Goodrich quickly points out that those strobes were planted in the real-life mission as well.
That's one of the more obvious ways EA LA has drawn from this military advisory relationship. After the demo wrapped up, Goodrich told us about some of the more subtle bits of feedback that have been incorporated into the game. If you glance at the cover art, you'll see a real-life Tier 1 operator sporting a thick, impossibly manly beard. He's not just there for looks. This soldier is responsible for switching up one of the most overlooked parts of a first-person shooter: the hands holding the gun. When EA LA brought him footage of handgun combat, he abruptly noted that the player was holding his gun like a cop. That led to the realization that various units within the military will often employ different gun holds from one another. This is all a long-winded way of saying that you'll see different hand configurations on similar weapons as you bounce between military branches in the game. It's one of those subtle things most people probably won't notice, but it's an interesting example of the team's focus on details.
http://gdc.gamespot.com/story/6253401/medal-of-honor-first-look
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Wicked
Kicking down doors :rock
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it's pretty ghetto that they used the same money-shot in this trailer as they did the last
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Is it 60fps?
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6EMUCYxfps[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NGQ2ceGsQM[/youtube]
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That's hot.
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Call of Battlefield :rock
Them explosions :drool
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looks like Battlefield in the way your character moves.
looks like COD in the way your gun shoots
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I like it.
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBy7QQnfUKw[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWLL3e4HJa4[/youtube]
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Just to give anyone a heads up. The Medal of Honor Beta starts soon. The trick is you have to pre-order the game to get the beta code. But the nice thing is that places like Gamestop online only want your credit card number and they don't charge you until the game actually comes out. So all you have to do is order it to get the beta code and then you can cancel your order whenever you want (or keep it if you like the beta). I "pre-ordered" the game Monday night and got my beta code via email tonight.
The Beta starts on June 21.
UPDATE: The Medal of Honor beta for the Xbox 360 is delayed but it is expected to be available next week. We are extremely disappointed about this, but want to assure you that we are dedicated and determined to delivering all of you this awesome multiplayer experience as soon as possible. However, we are excited to extend the beta to make up for lost time! The beta will continue as planned for the PlayStation 3 and PC. For these platforms the beta starts on June 21st, however players who own Battlefield: Bad Company 2 and have pre-ordered will be able to enter on June 17th. More information and Beta availability updates can be found at www.medalofhonor.com/betainfo
You can redeem your key for the PC and PlayStation 3 here starting on June 17.
Follow us at twitter.com/medalofhonor and facebook.com/medalofhonor for updates about Xbox timing and availability as well as when to come back here and redeem your Beta Key on June 17.
http://www.medalofhonor.com/beta
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Cool, placing pre-order now
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does anyone know if the medal of honor frontline remake for the PS3 special edition is going to be on a separate disc?
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WTF why is this game 30fps
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WTF why is this game 30fps
Because not everything needs to run at 60 to be fun.
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WTF why is this game 30fps
Because not everything needs to run at 60 to be fun.
60 hertz, 30 hurts!
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have they mentioned how the MoH Frontline HD is going to be given out? is it going to be on the blu-ray? for both Dead Space and Medal of Honor, I don't want the games on the PS3, but I want the bonus games they come with. I hope they're on PSN or something.
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i know that dead space extraction is going to be downloadable, dunno about frontline but i would guess so for that as well
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtu8ucX-rvc[/youtube]
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WTF why is this game 30fps
Because not everything needs to run at 60 to be fun.
60 hertz, 30 hurts!
Don't you have a gaming PC as well? Just get that version instead.
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Well it just looks like call of duty now. I thought they wanted to make this a serious war sim and yet you see zero recoil when the guy is firing full auto.
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Well it just looks like call of duty now. I thought they wanted to make this a serious war sim and yet you see zero recoil when the guy is firing full auto.
There isn't a "serious war sim" out on the market outside of perhaps Arma. And certainly the closest thing on consoles would be Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising. Both of those games play almost nothing like most modern shooters. And neither of those games are especially popular. Only a niche wants to play games like that.
The game is simply backed around the afghanistan war which is where they are going for their gritty angle. Its simply marketing.
The game seems to be a pretty clear Call of Duty clone. Probably somewhere between Bad Company and Call of Duty. Which is who they are trying to gain marketshare on.
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I'd love ot try but theres no 360 option
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bad first link
you copy pasted the shortened version
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I'd love ot try but theres no 360 option
It's coming next week it says.
So far the impressions I've seen have been somewhat mixed.
But hopefully I'll be able to get in on the action next week and it isn't a long delay.
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http://www.gamespot.com/event/codes/command-conquer-4-open/
heres the whole ink
it deffo works but for ps3 or pc only atm
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Not feeling the bad ass in this game.
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downloading the pc beta now
its around 740mb
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WTF why is this game 30fps
They cut fps for better graphics. It's more single player oriented, they want it to be cinematic.
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downloading the pc beta now
its around 740mb
Where?
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filefront
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264872&page=1 (you need both a gamespot account and an ea account)
you may need bfbc2 for pc, not sure
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I enter the code and it doesn't show anything after beta key redemption portal
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I enter the code and it doesn't show anything after beta key redemption portal
Same thing happened with me as I tried to get a PC beta. I'll just wait for the 360 one next week.
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lol. thanks PR. got the CnC4 code and redeemed it for my MoH code.
awesome
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oh damn. you're right. pretty bad
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sounds like dice was called up on short notice
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I thought it was alright in the three matches I played. I think it is close to bad company 2 if they done away with classes and focused purely on infantry. Atmosphere wise you can tell they're trying to make it seem more physical. You go down quick and it always catches you off-guard, which kinda promotes a slower play style, and everyone was fighting it out over distance. When you shoot anything, there is a bunch of dust that kicks into the air. I guess that's all to sell that bullets hurt and war is bad.
I wouldn't play this over call of duty or battlefield, but uh, it seems fine. I'll have to play more but it's at MAG quality of FPS where I have no interesting in playing it over other games despite thinking it is an ok game. I'm still interested in seeing how single player turns out.
just some random stuff: many hud elements feels like it was recycled from Bad Company 2. The general interface is GARBAGE in the beta. In these 3 games, spawn camping has been worse than my collective time spent with MW2 and BC2. Weird ass upgrade system. Things happen and I don't know why. The interface is garbage and I don't know what these numbers correlate to.
edit: it is a beta, so, benefit of the doubt and all that.
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not impressed
i would much rather play battlefield bad company 2 or modern warfare 2 than this
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Well it just looks like call of duty now. I thought they wanted to make this a serious war sim and yet you see zero recoil when the guy is firing full auto.
I don't know what gave you that impression. Medal of Honor has never been a sim, far from it, so the realistic and bloody serious aspect of this game has always been about it being based on a real campaign and on real units. I'm hoping that the influence of the consultants is deep enough to keep it close to fact, but they have even admitted there is only so far you can take that in a massmarket entertainment product. Mission chatter, for example, had to be added in spite of protests from the consultants, since realistically very quiet operations would be weird to gamers.
As for the MP, sounds like a mess right now. I'll just wait until the retail game hits instead of suffering through another stupid beta.
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Apparently the stability sucks. Some people say its barely playable with all the crashes. Hopefully MS kicked it out for this reason and whenever it does hit that platform it will be more stable next week.
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it feels like a real early Bad Company 2. controls are stuff and shooting just doesn't have any kick to it.
rather play BC2.
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lulz. This "beta" still isn't out on the 360. Boy this game must be a hot mess of shit if it can't even pass 360 demo certification.
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i bet dice is kinda pissed at having to hack it together in a rush, wonder if they'll even bother doing any interviews or promo for it
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The whole game is some bizzare mismash. The SP is done in Unreal Engine. The MP is done with some variant of the frost bite engine.
The SP is aiming for 60 fps. The MP isn't.
Just a weird frankenstein development of a game.
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Looks like I'll be nabbing Black Ops and BF2: Vietnam for my shooter fix this holiday season.
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i have to buy it if it's the only way to get the remastered frontline
:fbm
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Beta is up finally for the 360.
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10 minutes in and it already hard crashed on me.
::)
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Played about 4 or 5 games.
I don't know...
It's okay. It's playable. It's just hard to imagine me playing this instead of Bad Company or the Call of Duty series because it isn't as strong as either of those. It sort of combines the weakest elements of both series which is why I would end up playing those other two games.
It doesn't have the destruction or the vehicles of bad company. And it doesn't have the control tightness or frame rate of modern warfare. It just sort of sits in no man land. Even once they fix everything that is screwy in the beta in the full version I still have a feeling it will up feeling kinda average.
Like I said its okay. It's not the worst shooter I've ever played and its not the best. It's just nothing special. I'll play the beta a bit more and give more insightful thoughts when I've spent some more time with it.
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Yeah I played this some more now.
It's like playing a much much less fun Call of Duty.
Pass.
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Tried this one more time with Skidmark last night. The more you play it the more you hate it. Not to mention its almost a completely broken beta. We couldn't try the mission playlist together for some reason. Even when we picked it, it set us in the team dm playlist. After we were done I deleted it.
They better knock it out of the park on the sp side, because the multiplayer is wack.
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Tried this one more time with Skidmark last night. The more you play it the more you hate it. Not to mention its almost a completely broken beta. We couldn't try the mission playlist together for some reason. Even when we picked it, it set us in the team dm playlist. After we were done I deleted it.
They better knock it out of the park on the sp side, because the multiplayer is wack.
Opposite experience for me; the more I played it the more I liked it.
No doubt it's a ghetto ass Call of Duty clone and the beta has its fair share of problems but I started to enjoy it more once I got used to the pacing.
Fair enough. I'll rent it again via gamefly when it comes out but I really didn't like the MP. I kinda have higher hopes for the sp.
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Not as fluid as MW2, but the lack of copters annihilating people left and right makes it much better. You die way too quickly though.
And I didn't crash or anything... just a lack of texture on my red dot scope. Me and daddy slime tore shit up.
It's also better than BC2.
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It's also better than BC2.
:lol
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BC2
:lol
8)
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On the real tip I get why your personal taste is more towards this rather than something like BC 2. Its like the arcade version of BC 2. Nothing wrong with favoring that approach. I'm probably also in that boat in a general sense. The problem is it loses all the other stuff that makes Bad Company awesome on the MP side.
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Like what?
Exploding buildings? Not required
Open world? Yawn
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Like what?
Exploding buildings? Not required
Open world? Yawn
Pretty much. But I've already expressed my opinion on all that stuff in threads over here and on GAF. I'll back it down as I don't like to sort of have a vendetta against a game. I hope they improve a lot of the stuff before release and supposedly that beta was an old build although I'm always skeptical when that is the defense for something. I like Dice. I hope they turn that beta around into something I want to play. I'm always down for another good shooter.
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After all the shit talking I read, I was expecting to come back with a face full of herpes and an anus full of aids after playing it. In fact I was really surprised.
I liked:
- How kill streaks work (you get a choice of either a mortar strike or a UAV)
- How kill streaks apply (It adds up the points you get from kills, rather than 3 kill streak, 4 kill streak, etc)
- American soldiers saying FUCK a lot
The full version needs the following:
- XP meter to know when you unlock something or level up
- "User" has connected/left
- A way to know if you killed the guy who killed you at the same time
- Better graphic for the point popups from kills (looks like a stretched out JPEG)
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There are about a couple of dozen "little" things that I found missing in that beta that some of the more polished shooters have. But I assume (hope) a lot of that stuff is simple bug fixes or things that hadn't been applied yet.
On the higher level, I need a real reason to play it. I need a reason why I'm going to play this over Black Ops or Bad Company Vietnam or Reach, or even the games I'm playing now. Online shooters are the only genre I'm into hardcore so when one game replaces another which for me will be hundreds of hours, it needs a reason to push something else out. Despite all the little technical issues I had with the beta that was the real over-riding problem I felt. I just couldn't understand why I would play it over other titles. At best it felt average. And average isn't enough in that genre for me. And to take another game like Transformers MP, some people might also consider that average. But at least its different and unique in some areas. Same with Monday Night Combat also maybe which I plan to pick up. Medal of Honor MP has to stand out somewhere for it to be worth it to me.
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just checked xbl and i dont see anything about a demo, is there any way to get in without preordering?
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just checked xbl and i dont see anything about a demo, is there any way to get in without preordering?
It's over on the 360 anyway. Ended like Sunday or Monday.
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Was going strong last night. You don't have to pre-order. There's tons of sites out there giving out codes.
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Was going strong last night. You don't have to pre-order. There's tons of sites out there giving out codes.
Maybe they extended it or something but it was definitely suppose to end relatively soon.
The #MOH Xbox 360 beta ends tonight at midnight PDT, so make sure you get your game on!
about 23 hours ago via TweetDeck
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links pretty please :P
i finally fucking figured out why i didnt know about the beta - i was up in michigan @ the family cottage for 2 weeks with no internet
fuck my fucking life :gloomy
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looks like you couldnt even redeem a key if i had one on that beta web page anymore, oh well, i cant believe i missed this. FMFL.
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You sure you are doing it right? Daddy slime redeemed a key just two days ago.
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and i quote
Hey Everyone,
The Medal of Honor Xbox 360 beta has concluded as of 12:00AM PDT on Monday, August 9th. We would like to thank all of you for participating. Please visit the forums and leave us your beta feedback.
http://www.medalofhonor.com/beta
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Pwnt, enjoy your wait
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2VpdI1ILDw[/youtube]
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So, are they doing the Battlefield thing of picking up kits? That's okay but I'd like to just pick up weapons and know what they are before I do.
I think they are just showing it off because you couldn't do it in the beta. But yeah I would prefer to know the actual weapon rather than the kit also. Honestly this isn't very much of a classed based game compared to Bad Company so they shouldn't really stick so hard to that concept probably.
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So, are they doing the Battlefield thing of picking up kits? That's okay but I'd like to just pick up weapons and know what they are before I do.
I think they are just showing it off because you couldn't do it in the beta. But yeah I would prefer to know the actual weapon rather than the kit also.
Was that the case? I didn't play a lot of it since I didn't like it. Folks said that you had to hit rank 5 or whatever to pick up weapons but I was never sure if that was in the beta or not. Picking up kits made sense in Bad Company but in Medal of Honor, I never felt the game was too class oriented which is why I think they should let you pick up a weapon and tell you what it is, rather than making you pick up a full kit or just having generic tiles like "Sniper Primary" or "Rifleman Primary".
I don't believe you could pick them up but either way its fixed now. But yeah ultimately I agree. I think they are still trying to cling to the idea of a strongly delineated classed based setup but it doesn't really fit this style of game imo as the classes don't really have much secondary uses outside of the specific gun they are carrying.
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nj3Lo--M68[/youtube]
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtfzvKRSTWM[/youtube]
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I like what I'm seeing but I don't like what I'm seeing. It's weird.
I'm still in the same camp I've always been in. It looks exactly like MW 2 but with the BC engine (without destruction)
So I still don't see a reason to play it on the MP side. But whatever. I'll rent it when it comes out hopefully
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So, an advanced mod/map pack then? Seems like that would be appealing to MW2 players, but hey.
I'm having problems with this game. I've always liked the idea of separate development teams since SP always seems to get the shit hand, but this is an exaggerated example. If the SP is the hot stuff that it should be then that is alright, but I could use a decent MP game as well.
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http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/medal-of-honor/achievements/
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I'm so confused. WHAT engine is this using, exactly?
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I'm so confused. WHAT engine is this using, exactly?
The sp uses the unreal engine. The Mp uses the frostbite engine.
Yeah its a very weird situation...
The SP is supposed to run at 60 frames. The mp wil run at 30 fps.
Yeah its a very weird situation...
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QMn0m_AxhM[/youtube]
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PC open "beta"
http://www.medalofhonor.com/pcopenbeta
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they also are now calling the Taliban "opposing forces" because of some outrage or something. you're still americans shooting arabs in afghanistan, just the name is different.
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thats ridiculous
THEY ARE THE ENEMY
IN REAL LIFE
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taboo amerikkans strike again
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The beta is up.
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I can't really speak to the quality as I don't play shooters enough on the PC nowadays to intelligently comment. It seemed average meaning it seems okay from the little I played but nothing that overly got me excited. When the 360 version comes in and I gamefly it, I'll comment there.
Runs pretty decent on my machine performance wise but the servers are unstable right now so you get kicked from games a lot.
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The multiplayer is a DICE C team effort. It's really mediocre and I don't get why all the sudden EA wants to stretch these guys so thin. It would have made more sense to get some outside dudes to help Danger Close do the MP themselves using UE3 because hey, the single player looks kick ass if the official videos are to be believed.
Frankly, I feel bad for everyone involved besides the executives. I'd be shocked if Danger Close doesn't see serious lay-offs or even a full closure.
I think they picked DICE because they know DICE gives them some hardcore cred in certain communities and the gaming press. Deservedly so of course although I agree this does seem like a C team effort overall.
I think the game will sell well. I mean it won't sell anything close to a COD game but EA already says its the most preordered MOH game of all time. Honestly the SP looks more interesting than the MP so maybe Danger Close should have been given full charge on both the SP and the MP in retrospect.
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There's been so much negative word of mouth about this game (rightfully so) that it's hard for me to believe this game would sell more than, the first Army of Two, for example. I think even EA realizes that Medal of Honor won't come close to Call of Duty, with their comments on that it'll take over CoD "eventually".
Well I think in the early days of the gen any old shit would sell which is why the first Army of Two did well and the second tanked. I think MOH will do like maybe 400 to 500k on 360 for the first month. Less but closer than expected on the PS3 since they have advertised a lot on that platform. Some on the PC of course. Overall I think it will do well. Just not spectacular would be my guess.
Here is a video if you want to see it btw
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WcX8libiVw&hd=1[/youtube]
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Played the PC beta. Feels like a reskinned CoD4. I'll wait for Black Ops.
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they should have changed their name to the Talibadds
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Seems like EA was ready to pimp this, then they remembered they have Infinity Ward working on their real COD-killer. This game is just so they get the requisite holiday season FPS out.
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The part that tickles me is nothing was changed. (Not that anything should have been changed of course)
All somebody did was go in and edit a text string in a file from "Taliban" to something else. It would be like changing the name of the Nazi's to the Razi's.
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actually it'd still be like changing nazis to opposing forces but i get your point
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LOL @ complaining at campaign length in a FPS.
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Fuck. I forgot to send in a gamefly title so now I may not get it on release day.
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Under 4 hours?
What the fuck. The team that worked on the SP worked ONLY on the SP for like 2 years or some shit, how is that possible? :lol
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The length doesn't especially bother me. Lots of games range from the 4 to 6 hour mark in length based on the difficulty. If you are buying these games for solely the SP in this day and age you aren't the target market and its not like this is a new thing.
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I had no idea it was coming out. At least there is footage of Frontline HD now:
[youtube=560,345]1HvcqXd0cf8[/youtube]
They apparently did more to it than expected, like higher res textures and iron sights. I haven't played the PS2 version in a long time.
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that's why i'm buying it (please let it be on a separate disc so i can sell the reboot)
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fuuuuu wait a minute, have they said whether we'll be able to buy it on the psn store or not? i know it won't be on xbla because of size restrictions.
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also whoever is playing that is terrible
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holy shit i want that dashboard, how have i never heard of an xbox beta
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Streaming dude just said the VIP code you get gives you MP access instead of like BC2 where the code gives you updates for free. Terrible idea.
So are you saying I need to actually buy the game otherwise I can't play MP? (or buy a MP access code) Because if that's the case then this goes right off of gamefly for me. Fuck that.
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Wow that is a bit silly. Game is gonna bomb. But I'll still play the SP anyway.
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why is MoH needed when there is CoD and Battlefield? Just can this series already.
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That's exactly what the dude said and It sounds right. Otherwise he wouldn't have to stop the stream to enter the code in order to show the MP.
Hmmm... that stinks.
But I think I remember hearing that you get a free rental week for the EA sports games if you rent or gamefly them so it may be worth it for me in that case although I need to look that up to verify. If its not the case then fuck it. I won't gamefly. If it is then its at least worth a week's rental for me.
I would have less of a problem with this if I knew the game was worth owning on the MP side but the beta on consoles was broken. I have no confidence in the final product if I can't even try it and there is no history to suggest I will like it.
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I sent a message to the MoH twitter account about it. Also, I'm not sure if BC2 VIP had a trial.
It did not. I also rented that from Gamefly. But at least you could try out the MP in general to see how it was even if I think all these VIP systems are bullshit.
I asked the question in the GAF MOH thread about the MP being locked up to see if anybody else knows anything.
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What, 4 hours? The fuck? Shitbin, for real. I'm usually not all that bothered by short games assuming that the quality of what's there is real high, but there's a fucking limit.
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why is MoH needed when there is CoD and Battlefield? Just can this series already.
(http://i26.tinypic.com/209lgyv_th.png)
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Reviews are up and about. They range from like 6's to the mid 8's.
I was late putting it in my gamefly queue so I didn't get it on the initial wave so now I'm over it. I'll play the sp on the PC and just pass on the game in general since it doesn't seem especially great or anything.
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You can't split the difference in development. You have to go all the way. So out modern warfare modernwarfare if you're copying modern warfare. Out Bad Company Bad Company if you are cloning Bad Company. Or have a truly original take would be your third option.
But what you can't do is sort of try to thread the needle to mimic two other game series because all people are going to realize is that its not as good as either of those other two series.
http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-medal-of-honor/17-3354/
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Also, MoH Frontline is on the disk. It's not a code.
Yeah, you have to install it, and it's over 4GB
If they sell it on PSN, they'll try to get $20 for it
It won't come to 360 unless MS changes their XBLA size limit, and they'd have to double it (it's 2 GB now)
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i can't believe they're trying to get $60 for the PC version
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i could see them releasing a disc version later on for $20 if MS doesn't loosen the size restrictions
this fucking thing is taking forever to install, btw
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also, that online access thing is bullshit, and the BF3 beta access has a disclaimer that it's only redeemable if the beta launches within 12 months (not a big deal to me, i couldn't care less about a console version of BF3)
you have to use your online code to get access to the beta, too
$60 PC version, online access codes, seems like they're actually going out of their way to make sure this game fails
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changes i have noticed so far in frontline
- they've upgraded some textures (buildings and ground look good from far away, still look like crap close up, the clothing on the character models looks better)
- it's not true widescreen, looks a bit stretched on the sides, like a panorama mode on an hdtv
- soundtrack isn't in 5.1
- iron sights inclusion is okay, but moves around a lot
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more info
Greg Goodrich, the Executive Producer on Medal of Honor, has provided answers to community questions regarding the Medal of Honor trailer.
Q: Is that all gameplay footage throughout the trailer?
A: Yep, the trailer is 100% in-game footage.
Q: Where is the “bearded guy” that is on the box cover? I don’t believe I saw him in the trailer.
A: You are correct. The character on our box cover was not featured in our first trailer. But I can confirm that he is indeed a character in our game and will be revealed (along with his highly skilled and very specialized Tier 1 unit) in the near future.
Q: What exactly is a Tier 1 Operator? And what do they do?
A: Tier 1 is a category. It is not a unit designation or a name given to a specific task force. It is a term that is used to describe the level at which these operators perform and function. It also refers to their place within the national command structure. The term “Tier 1” can also be used to describe a specific unit’s ability to carry out missions that require the most highly skilled, proficient and disciplined group of warriors within the U.S. Special Operations Community. There are only a handful of units within the U.S. Government that are considered Tier 1. We have been given the rare opportunity to work closely with members of these units during the development of Medal of Honor.
Q: There was an ATV and a helicopter scene in the trailer. Can we expect to see some vehicular gameplay?
A: That is the plan. At minimum, you can expect the ones that you saw in the trailer ;-)
Q: The ending scene with the guy with a bomb attached to him gave me chills. Can we expect this darker feel/tone throughout the game?
A: This will be the very first (M) rated Medal of Honor. However, we will always be grounded by our core tenets of authenticity and respect for the soldier.
Q: There are some doors that get kicked in during the trailer. Can we expect breach and clear gameplay?
A: The player can do many cool things in the game, and kicking in doors is certainly one of them!
Q: Are you keeping the PC community in mind for this game? Please don’t do just a simple port!
A: We take the PC version of our game as seriously as we do any other version.
Q: How much of the game is based on real life, true events in Afghanistan?
A: Medal of Honor is “historical fiction” set against the backdrop of the current war in Afghanistan. Much like “Saving Private Ryan” is a fictional story told through the lens of a small band of characters during WWII.
Only noteworthy part is:
Q: There are some doors that get kicked in during the trailer. Can we expect breach and clear gameplay?
A: The player can do many cool things in the game, and kicking in doors is certainly one of them!
lol, I clicked the new button and this was where it was.
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haha, i just realized that if it's true the single player of the new game is really 4 hrs, then the 8 year old bonus game you get is double that length
it's not really remastered, but i guess Medal of Honor: Frontline "Cleaned-Up" wouldn't be much of a selling title
i'd forgotten what a great game it is, that soundtrack is just awesome
will try the new game's SP later this evening and post impressions
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I sent Enslaved back last week but guess it didnt get there in time. It's coo... nothing else coming out this week anyway. Wonder how MOH hardest stands up to Veteran
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I sent Enslaved back last week but guess it didnt get there in time. It's coo... nothing else coming out this week anyway. Wonder how MOH hardest stands up to Veteran
I'm off today so I decided to download it and give it a play on the PC. It's not bad so far but its really easy. I'm playing on hard and its not as hard as COD is on Hardened imo so forgot about Veteran (although I'm not much of a fan of Veteran in COD).
But I'm still early so maybe it gets tougher as you go. I'll give some more impressions this evening of the single player as I have to take off for a bit.
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got it 8)
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EA's servers are so dicked up. I can't even connect to a multiplayer match.
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im gonna play this on the hardest setting so its as realistic as possible, gonna be the ultimate e-operator :rock
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I still can't get in a game. Medal of Honor will be completely forgotten about in a month.
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I should mention that Kohler (who reviewed MOH) played on EASY :lol
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You kinda sound like this type of person, Drew.
Sadly, Medal of Honor is pretty much just military porn, straight-up fantasy fulfillment for anyone who would like to imagine themselves among people who shout things like “Tango down!”
Read More http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/10/medal-of-honor-story/#ixzz12BChm3Cv
listen you little prick, youre like 9, dont even quote me :shoulderbrushin
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GRR
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umad, bro?
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:lol Gamestop is giving full refunds as store credit for this game because online is so shitty.
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finally got this installed, jesus christ
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A DICE game?!?!? With fucked-up online at launch?!?!?! I don't believe it, I think you're lying!
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assuming a dice game to be good is akin to MURDER
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no, battlefield 1942 is still my favorite online game ever, but their netcode has been shitty since they printed their first business cards
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i guess i should say they should stop making crappy FPS and work on awesome FPP
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FIRST PERSON PARKOUR YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[youtube=560,345]TERyxFfMqDk[/youtube]
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Hit a mission where the scripting broke and I had to reload to the last checkpoint because the next thing that was supposed to happen didn't.
It's okay. I mean its like a less well scripted and less challenging COD clone on the SP side which is about what I expected. It's certainly playable and even enjoyable in spots but its nothing where I'm ever thinking this is really cool. Unfortunately the real world setting actually hinders it a bit. Because the scenery and variety isn't very good. COD can just do whatever they want and make a cool set piece but this is grounded just enough in reality where its not a great thing for gameplay purposes. This feels very same-y from mission to mission.
I do like the lean feature. It's pretty nice and the one interesting and useful thing they do in the game that stands out. And for some reason DICE took it out of the MP side. ???
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Does single player run at 60fps?
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Does single player run at 60fps?
I'm playing on the PC so I can't answer.
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Does single player run at 60fps?
The Giant Bomb review made it sound like 30FPS most of the time with bad tearing & framerate issues in spots.
I'm not surprised. Trying to get UE3 to run at 60hz on a console is like pulling teeth. The Mortal Kombat vs DC guys barely managed to pull it off and that was a damn fighting game with 2 characters and a mostly static background
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Game looks up to standards on the PC but unfortunately plays like COD Vanilla.
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nvm. I figured it out.
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Finished it. Yeah its about 3 to 4 hours. But honestly that's enough. Anymore and I would have started to burn out. My impressions are roughly the same. It's actually a little better than I expected. The tone is good. But the scripting is poor. It's often either confusing or buggy. Sometimes its not clear what is supposed to happen as in could I have prevented that action or was it always supposed to happen. Just feels a little rushed overall.
The basic gunplay is good though. There is nothing inventive or extra unique that you haven't seen in a COD game here but its okay. They try to vary it up a lot to break things up. It's very easy. Definitely easier than Hardened in a COD game. You have tons of ammo and you can always just get extra from your AI teammate. Most of my deaths occurred when I wasn't sure exactly what I was supposed to be doing in a few cases.
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I read that a bunch of the guns in the SP had multiple models? Accurate?
Also, I don't get why MP doesn't have prone or that sweet slide move. I also think that instead of knifing dudes, it should be a boot to the face.
Not sure what you mean by multiple models but honestly it doesn't matter. You never need to pick up guns or switch weapons around unless they automatically make you do it by switching to the sniper on some levels or the laser designator thing. You literally can use one gun for the entire game. I only switched around just to try them out and then I would just switch back to the default weapon with unlimited ammo. Never because I actually needed to. It's one of those things again where going for some sort of "realism" or "authenticity" actually makes the game less fun than it could be. The fun of these sort of games is being put in certain situations where you have to switch things up but that never happen in this game. And yeah I agree. Removing the lean and the sliding thing from the MP side is a weird choice because both of those things are actually unique. It's an average game both on the single player and MP side. It's perfectly serviceable on both sides. It's just nothing special on either side.
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Like, the AK-47 had different models (same gun, slightly different lookin').
See that's what I mean. Maybe.
But literally it doesn't matter. Because the default gun you have is just as good as that. And it has a silencer on it on some levels which you need. And once again you have unlimited ammo. So its never ever like oh I need to pick up their weapons because I'm running low on ammo. I never even bothered picking up an AK until the mission where you lose your stuff and then you have to pick up one. And surprise surprise. 2 minutes later you get your default gun back. It's like the guns don't matter because they are trying to simulate that a military person would always use their issued equipment or something. The only weapon I ever picked up was the occasional sniper rifle because sometimes they give you an LMG which sucks and isn't very useful.
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lol at dsp
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_iysuV43No[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYJj2WAZDO8[/youtube]
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I love DSP. He's so real.
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Here's how to win at multiplayer:
1. Find enemy base.
2. Stand on spawn point.
3. Shoot gun.
4. Win.
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It's probably the most sniper friendly game I've played in years. I found it impossible to move.
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Free DLC is up.
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http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=526321
Medal of Honor(TM) is off to a strong start, selling-through 2 million units in just two weeks in October.
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Just got this from Gamefly. I'm snowed in, meaning it's time to Dinner For One this bitch