THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Rman on December 14, 2009, 11:51:09 AM
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Stolen from the NeoGAF.
It's December, which means it's time to roll out the year-in-review lists. We'll look over the overlooked, move on to the the disappointing, and finally celebrate the best.
But first, here are the most overrated games of 2009. Many of the following ten games are good. I would call a couple of them great. However, I think they're the most overrated games of the year for the simple fact that I'm surprised at how well received they were. I wouldn't recommend any of these without a few important caveats.
Read the 10 most overrated game of 2009 after the jump.
10. Demon's Souls
I love this game, and I am astonished that so many other people do as well. It's dark, oppressive, unglamorous, and often an exercise in fear and frustration. It is nearly the exact opposite of what most people look for in videogames. There aren't many people to whom I would recommend Demon's Souls.
9. Empire: Total War
There are so many things wrong with Empire: Total War, and almost none of them are mentioned in the glowing praise this game got because it was epic and pretty. As an interactive cut scene, Empire: Total War does a great job. As a strategy game, it's insulting.
8. Killzone 2
Generic shooter is generically generic. Even middling shooters like Wolfenstein and FEAR 2 were better than this warmly received forgettable sci-fi pap.
7. Infamous
In a year that saw three of the finest open world games ever made (four, if you count Batman: Arkham Asylum), why would you bother with this passable combat game that does such a middling job of world-building and a flat-out horrible job of storytelling?
6. Plants vs. Zombies
You'd never guess from all the enthusiasm that this is "just" a tower defense game. Sure, it's full of adorable twists and variations. But it is still "just" a tower defense game. Unlike Popcap's other insidiously addictive creations - Bejeweled and Bookworm, for instance, are for everyone - Plants vs. Zombies requires that you have whatever gene makes tower defense games tolerable.
5. Scribblenauts
Cute concepts are cute. But the really challenging bit is building a game around them. cf. Little Big Planet.
4. Forza 3
Two years ago, when it was called Forza 2, this would have been a fantastic racer. Instead, it looks a little dated, it has lousy campaign progression, and it's missing that visceral bite that makes the lastest great racing games so good.
3. Modern Warfare 2
Although this may very well be the best multiplayer game of the year, I am flabbergasted that anyone over the age of 12 thinks there's anything deep, insightful, or even relevant about the single player storyline in general and the airport massacre in specific. Modern Warfare 2 is an unimaginative retread that only stands out because Infinity Ward has no compunction about relying on tasteless shock value to whore for publicity they don't even need.
2. New Super Mario Bros Wii
This could very well be a "me" problem, but when I play these traditional Mario games, I go cold. Platformers have come so far in terms of gameplay, graphics, and even narrative. But these Mario games are built almost entirely out of jumping puzzles. To me, classic retro Mario games are like playing Pac-Man: fine for nostalgia's sake, but only once every several months and only for a few minutes at a time. And the co-op? It's ultimately pointless and even a liability if you're trying to play in earnest.
1. Uncharted 2
A solid game with great graphics and some cool multiplayer options, including a few fantastic variations of co-op. Unfortunately, a lot of the single player was disappointing. As a story, it showed very little of the creative spark and personality that made the first Uncharted such a revelation. When people gush appreciatively as they do about this game's characters and story, I have to scratch my head and wonder if videogamers are ready yet for characters and story.
(Up next: 10 games of 2009 you didn't play but should have)
http://fidgit.com/archives/2009/12/10_most_overrated_games_of_200_1.php
Tom Chick :bow2 trolling fanboys like no other.
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umm i can agree with any list that put scribblenauts and new super mario bros in it (altough the reason for super mario bros is wrong) but who's this tom chick guy and why i should care?
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but who's this tom chick guy and why i should care?
He's a righteous dude.
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You know what isnt on that list.
AC2 :bow
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Or Batman. :bow
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I really agree about Uncharted 2. I enjoyed the first game. I'd give it a B. It was a solid game. I know some had problems with it, but I thought it fun ride. But the hype generated by its sequel, with its garnering of 10s and gushing reviews had me expecting a watershed title. Uncharted 2 was great, but it was more of a refining of the original. And while I enjoyed it, I just don't get the OMG GOTG hyperpole sticking to the title.
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The only thing more annoying than being the sort of person who would nerd out over a top ten list is being the sort of person who tries to be anti-mainstream by being against the most popular titles like Chick does. What is there to discuss here? An individual who likes to backlash and play the contrarion. How hip.
Half of those titles are absolutely great. Which is why he put them on. To simply stir shit. And GAF and places like this fall into the trap everytime.
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Understand all except Infamous. Though, I'm starting to think I missed out on the reception because I don't remember a big fan or reviewer reaction.
and I guess Forza 3. I got it cheap when it came out, only played the demo so far, but the demo was great.
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Dude listed Infamous, dude is therefore a jilted shitclown.
Understand all except Infamous. Though, I'm starting to think I missed out on the reception because I don't remember a big fan or reviewer reaction.
It reviewed alright (fairly, I'd say, given the rough edges) and sold alright. Why it would make this kind of list, especially when you consider that shitpile of a game that launched around the same time, is beyond me.
Tom did make two lists, 10 good things and 10 bad things about Infamous, after which Sony canceled an interview with infamous right in his face.
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This is more a reaction to gaf than anything else, but it's a shame to see people so down on FEAR 2 just because it was compared to Killzone 2 back then and again now. fwiw, I thought FEAR 2 was as good if not better than KZ2. I really enjoyed KZ2 for the style of shooter it is, but FEAR 2 is still more the style I enjoy. I'll buy Wolfenstein too whenever it gets cheap if it is compared to those two.
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Oh look, Tom Chick, Xbot Warrior #1413245235 who is known to get paychecks from Microsoft regulary. ::) Let's watch him bash the PS3. ::)
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What little I played of Wolfenstein felt really, really old. Not that I mind an old-school shooter, but that's what it is. I would have played FEAR, but KZ2 momentarily killed shooters for me. Great A.I. can only take you so far into mass slaughter of glowy eyes enemies in depressingly bleak surroundings.
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yeah, infamous is quote the anomaly on this list. I also disagree with him about Uncharted 2. It was definitely not the second coming (as it was hyped and reviewed), but it refined the good stuff from the first game (which was passable) and it ended up being pretty fun.
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Oh look, Tom Chick, Xbot Warrior #1413245235 who is known to get paychecks from Microsoft regulary. ::) Let's watch him bash the PS3. ::)
fucking clown
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He did rip on Uncharted 2 while praising the first one, so at least he's sometimes consistent in his silliness.
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Sounds like a good list (although I disagree with MW2 being placed on there, for largely the reasons he states).
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Seriously kest? How is ODST NOT on this list? Bungie hyped it as a full new halo game, yet he lists all PS3 exclusive games, one wii exclusive, and one 360 exclusive. It's even been proven he's a paid microsoft employee.
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Tom Chick spitting truth like a cobra,fantards destroyed.
I only disagree about MW2 :bow
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The only thing more annoying than being the sort of person who would nerd out over a top ten list is being the sort of person who tries to be anti-mainstream by being against the most popular titles like Chick does. What is there to discuss here? An individual who likes to backlash and play the contrarion. How hip.
Half of those titles are absolutely great. Which is why he put them on. To simply stir shit. And GAF and places like this fall into the trap everytime.
I do enjoy his writing and am aware that he done seem to relish the contrarian angle, which is rare in games writing, so it doesn't bother me as much, as long as he's stating his reasons. He does offer the positive aspects of the games on his list as well, so it's not an out and out, unreasoned troll.
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Seriously kest? How is ODST NOT on this list? Bungie hyped it as a full new halo game, yet he lists all PS3 exclusive games, one wii exclusive, and one 360 exclusive. It's even been proven he's a paid microsoft employee.
If he was a paid Microsoft employee, wouldn't he list more Wii games? Sounds like Sony fanboys pwned again. :smug
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Seriously kest? How is ODST NOT on this list? Bungie hyped it as a full new halo game, yet he lists all PS3 exclusive games, one wii exclusive, and one 360 exclusive. It's even been proven he's a paid microsoft employee.
Because ODST was met with little fanfare in the gaming community while Uncharted 2 was hyped as the second coming of Christ.
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Yeah, to be fair, I don't think there was much anticipation outside of Halo junkies. It even got a little bit of hate here.
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to be double fair, Forza 3 didn't seem to get much reaction either.
I would say the three most true there are Scribblenauts, Plants vs Zombies and Uncharted 2.
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I do enjoy his writing and am aware that he done seem to relish the contrarian angle, which is rare in games writing, so it doesn't bother me as much, as long as he's stating his reasons. He does praise the majority of the games on his list.
I'm not a fan. Nearly all of his writing is that sort of writing that reads to me as if it was directed at niche message board nerds which is sort of the weakest form of writing imo. But whatever.
This is the sort of writing that is perfect for creating 20 page threads of fanboys fighting over on GAF but I don't really see the point nor do I think his analysis of the games is especially insightful. Especially since its churned out in a line or two.
The easiest thing to do in the world is nitpick or troll any game with a generic putdown.
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It's even been proven he's a paid microsoft employee.
why do i even bother :(
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See, it's pretty great! MyNameIsMud does more to hurt Sony fans than Tom Chick!
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im not a sony fanboy though I own all consoles I just think the 360 is 1/2 the system the ps3 is
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I do enjoy his writing and am aware that he done seem to relish the contrarian angle, which is rare in games writing, so it doesn't bother me as much, as long as he's stating his reasons. He does praise the majority of the games on his list.
I'm not a fan. Nearly all of his writing is that sort of writing that reads to me as if it was directed at niche message board nerds which is sort of the weakest form of writing imo. But whatever.
This is the sort of writing that is perfect for creating 20 page threads of fanboys fighting over on GAF but I don't really see the point nor do I think his analysis of the games is especially insightful.
I don't regularly read what he writes, but I feel like the overrated list is just to put the next one in perspective. Last year the overrated one had GTA4, MGS4, LBP, etc. While the best game list had Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, The Club, Saints Row 2, etc. and other games that were mostly ignored or got much less fanfare (and most were better, imo)
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If you read fidgit, none of this is unexpected. His opinion of UC2 is garbage, but whatever. It's pulp. Pulp isn't a genre known for breaking ground; it'd be an exception not a rule. Killzone 2 he's dead-on, 'nuff said. And Forza 3, I loved it until I didn't. He's right about the lack of visceral feel, and that's mainly a product of the grinding progression through the seasons. Infamous, same. Was fun until it became repetitious; about 30 minutes. Then you noticed the story narrative, yikes. MW2, I don't recall many people (i.e. no one sober) effusive over the storyline. While a few may have, finding a defense of, well, anything is as easy as laying on your stomach.
Anyway, it's Tom Chick so...:bow2 Better to read a literate guy with whom you disagree than the prostrate, sycophants embodying most of the enthusiast press.
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I don't really get his criticism of Demon's Souls either. How does your astonishment that a title attracted praise and following amount to a game being overrated when you admit yourself that it's probably worthy?
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im not a sony fanboy though I own all consoles I just think the 360 is 1/2 the system the ps3 is
:lol
Dude, I think it's great. Keep it up. You make your niche look pretty bad; folks are going to want to sell their PS3s just so they're not affiliated with you.
MW2, I don't recall many people (i.e. no one sober) effusive over the storyline. While a few may have, finding a defense of, well, anything is as easy as laying on your stomach.
But, really, who bought Modern Warfare 2 for single-player. That'd be like slamming BioShock 2 for crappy multiplayer.
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I don't regularly read what he writes, but I feel like the overrated list is just to put the next one in perspective. Last year the overrated one had GTA4, MGS4, LBP, etc. While the best game list had Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, The Club, Saints Row 2, etc. and other games that were mostly ignored or got much less fanfare (and most were better, imo)
I've posted too much in a thread I don't really care about so I'll stop after this one. For what its worth there is nothing wrong with being a contrarion or taking a critical look at some of the most popular games. There is so much fanboyism in this industry that every game (even the really good ones) deserve to be analyzed and occasionally knocked off their pedastals. If Chick had some really interesting writing to back up these lists he creates I would be down. But he doesn't. I could have predicted 7 or 8 of those games that would have been on the list because of simply who he is and what he's done in the past. Any popular or well reviewed game that came out this year could be on that list as long as the reasoning is backed up well from a logical perspective but he doesn't do that.
There are better ways to sort of critically evaluate games than he does and foster discussion and for all the talk about him being a good writer, I rarely actually see it in action. But like I said, that's just my opinion.
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im not a sony fanboy though I own all consoles I just think the 360 is 1/2 the system the ps3 is
i cant even comprehend whats going on in your head but thats ok id still hatefuck you
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you know first time i just glanced trough the list and
Bejeweled and Bookworm, for instance, are for everyone - Plants vs. Zombies requires that you have whatever gene makes tower defense games tolerable.
:lol :lol :lol
never anything was more true than this
i still remember gaf jizzing all over lock quest
"OMG SOOOOOOO AWESOMEEEEEEEE"
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Here's his best games of 2009 list:
*Ass creed 2
*ODST
*Beatles
*Left 4 Dead 2
*Dragon Age
*Borderlands
*Spirit Tracks
*Batman
*Street Fighter 4
*Ratchet - Maybe
I can guarantee you that my list will be nearly identical to his.
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Here's his best games of 2009 list:
*Ass creed 2
*ODST
*Beatles
*Left 4 Dead 2
*Dragon Age
*Borderlands
*Spirit Tracks
*Batman
*Street Fighter 4
*Ratchet - Maybe
I can guarantee you that my list will be nearly identical to his.
Saved for pwnage.
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I just realized his next list is Top 10 games you didnt but should play, so my point is moot. Either way his list will be shit like the raiden games on 360. There won't be a single PS3 game on any of his lists.
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To be fair, the only three PS3 games already made his overrated list, what other games could he put on other lists?
Jinfash: I can already tell you that list is wrong, because there are several notable omissions.
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Heres what I bet his 10 didnt play list:
Rock Band Lego
Raiden Fighting Aces
Rabbids Go Home
Torchlight
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Dirt 2
Red Faction Guerrilla
Cryostastis
Klonoa
Rhythm Heaven
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Here's his best games of 2009 list:
*Ass creed 2
*ODST
*Beatles
*Left 4 Dead 2
*Dragon Age
*Borderlands
*Spirit Tracks
*Batman
*Street Fighter 4
*Ratchet - Maybe
I can guarantee you that my list will be nearly identical to his.
man this year sucked...
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wow, tom chick with a massive win, although demon's souls is a bit of a stretch. also mario wii is disappointing, but not for the reasons he states.
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I don't regularly read what he writes, but I feel like the overrated list is just to put the next one in perspective. Last year the overrated one had GTA4, MGS4, LBP, etc. While the best game list had Fallout 3, Far Cry 2, The Club, Saints Row 2, etc. and other games that were mostly ignored or got much less fanfare (and most were better, imo)
I've posted too much in a thread I don't really care about so I'll stop after this one. For what its worth there is nothing wrong with being a contrarion or taking a critical look at some of the most popular games. There is so much fanboyism in this industry that every game (even the really good ones) deserve to be analyzed and occasionally knocked off their pedastals. If Chick had some really interesting writing to back up these lists he creates I would be down. But he doesn't. I could have predicted 7 or 8 of those games that would have been on the list because of simply who he is and what he's done in the past. Any popular or well reviewed game that came out this year could be on that list as long as the reasoning is backed up well from a logical perspective but he doesn't do that.
There are better ways to sort of critically evaluate games than he does and foster discussion and for all the talk about him being a good writer, I rarely actually see it in action. But like I said, that's just my opinion.
he'd be out of a job if reviewers weren't such distinguished mentally-challenged fanboys in the first place!
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SMH @ mud hating on the Raiden games
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I'm not hating on Raiden, I used to have my own Raiden 2 cabinet, i'm just hating on him listing only 360 exclusive games.
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Methodowned
http://fidgit.com/archives/2009/12/10_games_you_didnt_play_in_200.php (http://fidgit.com/archives/2009/12/10_games_you_didnt_play_in_200.php)
10) Flower, Sun, and Rain
This is Suda 51's true follow-up to the unhinged creativity of the whacked out Playstation 2 cult classic Killer 7. Flower, etc. makes no sense and it doesn't have much gameplay, but it's intriguing, puzzling, and maybe even a little disturbing. It's also on the DS and easily mistaken for - oops! - something you'd buy your tween daughter.
9) Half-Minute Hero
Can a joke about other games still be a game? The funny and subversive Half-Minute Hero thinks so. Calling it "Wario Ware meets Zelda" is just the beginning.
8) Clutch
This lively and only slightly underdeveloped game is the spiritual successor to Carmageddon. It combines great driving physics with running over people (or zombies, in this case). With a solid car upgrade system, good graphics, and that same Carmageddon glee, this should have been a contender. It's also probably the worst named game of the year. "Clutch" is not a game; it's something you have to pay $300 to fix. A simple "...of the Dead" would have worked wonders, guys. (Read more here.)
7) Eufloria
I never thought a real time strategy game could be relaxing, but Eufloria proves I was wrong. It could use an AI upgrade, or better yet multiplayer support, to really shine, but it works just fine as a haunting strategy puzzle game that - don't let this scare you - makes me think of what island-hopping naval combat would be like if it was fought by magical space birds. Weird, huh?
6) Defender Chronicles
Tower defense games have been around for a while, most of them strongly resembling each other and mostly unchanged since they began as a Warcraft 3 mod many years ago. Finally here's one that stands out not necessarily for the gameplay, but for the way the gameplay is driven by an RPG system. The main drawback? It's on the iPhone where console and PC gamers can't play it. (Read more here.)
5) Swords & Soldiers
A cool splitscreen strategy game for the Wii that will appeal even to people who don't play strategy games. So I'm not going to tell you that it has everything you'd also get in a serious real time strategy game, because that would give you the wrong idea. It's played in short gratifying burst with a friend on the same couch, with whom you will later share the inside joke of proclaiming, "I luuuuv gold!" (Read more here.)
4) Wipeout HD Fury
Holy cats, who knew the creative team behind the superslick supersexy Wipeout HD still had so many great ideas in them? You haven't seen the best of sci-fi racing until you've download Fury for Wipeout HD. If it wasn't for Sony's shenanigans sticking advertisements into the game, this probably would have been on the list of my favorite games of the year. (Read more here.)
3) Gratuitous Space Battles
Last year, I wrote an article on games to help you get over the end of Battlestar Galactica. This spectacular let's-get-right-to-the-spaceships-blowing-each-other-up belongs high on that list. Come for the exploding spaceships; stay for the DIY spaceship creation.
2) Burn Zombie Burn
Action games about zombies don't have to be dumb. What looks like a two-stick shooter no more demanding than the deliciously dumb Zombie Apocalypse is actually an intricate and smart scoring puzzle. (Read more here.)
1) The Path
Games don't always have to be games as we know them. The Path, for instance, is one of the year's most memorable stories, and it's not even a story in the conventional sense, much less a videogame in the conventional sense. Think of this as six evocative character sketches about femininity, a topic relevant to everyone in the world but alien to most videogames.
Half-minute hero, Wipeout HD, and Burn Zombie Burn are all playstation exclusives. Not a single MS game on the list
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Not fair, I wasn't expecting him to list PSN / XBL / Steam games, only big releases.
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Oh and not to give the hack hits
10) Flower, Sun, and Rain
This is Suda 51's true follow-up to the unhinged creativity of the whacked out Playstation 2 cult classic Killer 7. Flower, etc. makes no sense and it doesn't have much gameplay, but it's intriguing, puzzling, and maybe even a little disturbing. It's also on the DS and easily mistaken for - oops! - something you'd buy your tween daughter.
9) Half-Minute Hero
Can a joke about other games still be a game? The funny and subversive Half-Minute Hero thinks so. Calling it "Wario Ware meets Zelda" is just the beginning.
8) Clutch
This lively and only slightly underdeveloped game is the spiritual successor to Carmageddon. It combines great driving physics with running over people (or zombies, in this case). With a solid car upgrade system, good graphics, and that same Carmageddon glee, this should have been a contender. It's also probably the worst named game of the year. "Clutch" is not a game; it's something you have to pay $300 to fix. A simple "...of the Dead" would have worked wonders, guys. (Read more here.)
7) Eufloria
I never thought a real time strategy game could be relaxing, but Eufloria proves I was wrong. It could use an AI upgrade, or better yet multiplayer support, to really shine, but it works just fine as a haunting strategy puzzle game that - don't let this scare you - makes me think of what island-hopping naval combat would be like if it was fought by magical space birds. Weird, huh?
6) Defender Chronicles
Tower defense games have been around for a while, most of them strongly resembling each other and mostly unchanged since they began as a Warcraft 3 mod many years ago. Finally here's one that stands out not necessarily for the gameplay, but for the way the gameplay is driven by an RPG system. The main drawback? It's on the iPhone where console and PC gamers can't play it. (Read more here.)
5) Swords & Soldiers
A cool splitscreen strategy game for the Wii that will appeal even to people who don't play strategy games. So I'm not going to tell you that it has everything you'd also get in a serious real time strategy game, because that would give you the wrong idea. It's played in short gratifying burst with a friend on the same couch, with whom you will later share the inside joke of proclaiming, "I luuuuv gold!" (Read more here.)
4) Wipeout HD Fury
Holy cats, who knew the creative team behind the superslick supersexy Wipeout HD still had so many great ideas in them? You haven't seen the best of sci-fi racing until you've download Fury for Wipeout HD. If it wasn't for Sony's shenanigans sticking advertisements into the game, this probably would have been on the list of my favorite games of the year. (Read more here.)
3) Gratuitous Space Battles
Last year, I wrote an article on games to help you get over the end of Battlestar Galactica. This spectacular let's-get-right-to-the-spaceships-blowing-each-other-up belongs high on that list. Come for the exploding spaceships; stay for the DIY spaceship creation.
2) Burn Zombie Burn
Action games about zombies don't have to be dumb. What looks like a two-stick shooter no more demanding than the deliciously dumb Zombie Apocalypse is actually an intricate and smart scoring puzzle. (Read more here.)
1) The Path
Games don't always have to be games as we know them. The Path, for instance, is one of the year's most memorable stories, and it's not even a story in the conventional sense, much less a videogame in the conventional sense. Think of this as six evocative character sketches about femininity, a topic relevant to everyone in the world but alien to most videogames. (Read more here.)
Up next: the most disappointing games of 2009
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Wilco, exactly. MW2 is a multiplayer game, padded by the addition of a singleplayer component. No one bought it due to controversy (youtube reveals all) or story. So, he's correct about the IW's puerile need for negative attention, garnered by the bunged on sp story. But wrong to believe any sentient couch potato bought it because of some puffed-up controversy.
People bought it to nuke dudes in multiplayer. And for that, the game can't be overrated. Even if I've never played it :teehee.
It'll be interesting to see where he places Ratchet & Clank and Borderlands, since he did like both quite a bit. Or maybe they won't even rate. Batman will be definitely be on his top list.
My only wish is that Tom would post more often on fidgit. He's a good writer, with a skewed (relative to the other gaming sites) take on games probably owing to his former life as a seminarian.
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lol at #8 showing up as " 8)"
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"4) Wipeout HD Fury
Holy cats, who knew the creative team behind the superslick supersexy Wipeout HD still had so many great ideas in them? You haven't seen the best of sci-fi racing until you've download Fury for Wipeout HD. If it wasn't for Sony's shenanigans sticking advertisements into the game, this probably would have been on the list of my favorite games of the year. (Read more here.)"
So it's okay for everyone else but sony to have in game ads. Gotcha.
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FSR? C'mon now. Pretty weak list imo. Tons of other games to pick from.
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This Tom guy has a very shitty taste in gaming.
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I can totally get behind Empire:TW and Plants vs. Zombies in the overrated category. I haven't played Demon Souls but I can't really buy Tom's argument there, unless the game's enthusiastic fanbase has gotten to the point that they are making it a blanket PS3 recommendation, which doesn't strike me as a good idea and would be like me telling every every PC gamer to go out and play Drakensang, Risen, or 1404 A.D., something I'd never ever do.
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This Tom guy has a very shitty taste in gaming.
I bet he plays games on the normal difficulty setting. :teehee
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I don't really buy his NSMB Wii complaint, but eh, he's allowed to think that.
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just realized no flower in overrated category
list is a failure
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he listed The Path, so clearly he's accepting digital art software or w/e shit
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The only people who think Flower is overrated are people who didn't play flower or are made because it's platform exclusive.
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I played Flower too, definitely overrated
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I bought Flower when it came out, finished it and all that. Go back to see posts where I say it's probably the most beautiful game ever, and I stick with that. Game looks incredible. But like Braid, it ends in an hour two and you never want to play it again cuz it's really boring. Flower in Braid of 2009, except without some illiterate hobo begging for money.
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Yeah come to think of it, I haven't played it since either.
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I bought Flower when it came out, finished it and all that. Go back to see posts where I say it's probably the most beautiful game ever, and I stick with that. Game looks incredible. But like Braid, it ends in an hour two and you never want to play it again cuz it's really boring. Flower in Braid of 2009, except without some illiterate hobo begging for money.
spittin truth
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Braid :yuck
Worst hyped XBLA game ever.
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I think that title is bestowned upon GeoWars 2
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I think that title is bestowned upon GeoWars 2
sigh.
Like I said, I don't know everybody here on this forum yet but like is this your gimmick and character over here. Are you doing satire of a PS3 fanboy idiot or are you just a PS3 fanboy idiot?
Serious question.
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I think that title is bestowned upon GeoWars 2
sigh.
Like I said, I don't know everybody here on this forum yet but like is this your gimmick and character over here. Are you doing satire of a PS3 fanboy idiot or are you just a PS3 fanboy idiot?
Serious question.
Nah, thats his schtick. I banned him like 4 times already. Doesnt seem to get the hint, haha. Might just make it permanent and he can trollop to some shitty forum.
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Tom posted on GAF
Hey guys,
First of all, I'm bummed to see this thread closed down. It was a perfectly cromulent topic! I appreciate being able to read people's reactions, positive and negative. You guys are always a passionate bunch, even if some of you aren't, uh, terribly constructive or even articulate. Here's where I'd put a smiley face if I didn't find emoticons so insufferable.
Second, I hope it's clear that I'm not writing the list – or anything else – just to be controversial. I will grant that I write things to get hits. That's pretty much my job. But my goal is to make things interesting instead of sensational. And nothing with my name attached to it is disingenuous.
(That said, I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't just cut and paste my articles into the thread. If you don't want to read what I've written, that's your prerogative, and I can admire anyone who takes a principled stand like that. But please don't steal what I've written. I don't personally care about hits, but they make my overlords at the Sci Fi Channel (err, Syfy) happy. Happy enough that they don't come to me and say, "Tom, you're not getting enough traffic, so can you be more like Kotaku?" I count every day that doesn't happen a blessing.)
Third, I had hoped it was clear in the actual text, but the term "overrated" has very little to do with review scores, as that's a topic I have no interest in discussing. It's my opinion that every time you talk about a review score, you're missing out on a much more instructive conversation. Review scores are doing irreparable damage to how we talk about and receive videogames.
So "overrated" is just a shorthand way for me to say I'm surprised at how well received a game was, whether by other writers, my friends, or online communities like GAF. There's a character limit on the headlines at most blogs, and Fidgit is no exception. Hence trying to sum it up in one word. I'd love to be able to spell it out more precisely, but on the internet, RSS feeds trump clarity.
Finally, as is the case with many of these lists, it's entirely personal. Not only do I expect you'll disagree, but I welcome it. This list is not an end in and of itself. It is a starting point for conversations, and exceptions, and forum threads. If it makes you think about why you like Uncharted 2 or Plants vs. Zombies or Demon's Souls so much, then as far as I'm concerned, the list has done its job.
Which comes back to why I'm disheartened the thread was closed down. Plus, I'd written this in Word and wanted to paste it into the thread, but discovered it was closed. Sheesh. Am I allowed to make disparaging comments about GAF's moderators?
-Tom
My name is Tom and I think another members name here is Tom also. Tom tom tom tom tom tom tom.
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Just ignore Methodis. He seems to crave attention.
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Might just make it permanent and he can trollop to some shitty forum.
yes please
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plz plz plz dont ban me dmei I promise I will cahnge just give me one more chance please man please
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:rofl
About to take a history final but this thread is relieving a lot of the stress.
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Tom chick showing his shitty taste once again.
its like he just does it to fuck with fanboys :lol
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someone invite tom chick plz.
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just use his board
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/forumdisplay.php?f=6
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plz plz plz dont ban me dmei I promise I will cahnge just give me one more chance please man please
Better edit that before it's too late, dude.
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plz plz plz dont ban me dmei I promise I will cahnge just give me one more chance please man please
Better edit that before it's too late, dude.
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Now it's really no different than the third rate blog posts you read on gaming news aggregates: post controversial article for hits -> follow it up with an explanation for even more hits.
It wasn't anything beyond that when he wrote it and posted it in the first place. He's a dude with some opinions on a planet full of people with them. Because he wrote something interesting a long time ago doesn't mean that he is currently writing anything interesting now. (Similar to Chris Crawford and his antiquated ideas on game design). If you had switched out the name Tom Chick and wrote in the name of whoever posts news stories on Kotaku no one would have noticed any difference in the quality of the writing nor would they have cared. Because it's just another opinion among many.
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Who the heck overrated NSMB, aside from Jeremy Parish?
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It's not overrated it it deserves its praise.
But it ain't the best game of the year. Batman for sure.
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i agree with infamous and scribblenauts. those 2 games didn't hold my attention for very long. i've yet to play UC2, i'm gonna wait till it hits the value bin.
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Scribblenauts I think is the perfect example of journos buying into their own hype. It was cool at E3 because they were only allowed to play it 10 minutes at a time, but when it actually hit retail most people figured out that it was nothing but a glorified tech demo.
Man, 5th Cell can't make a good game to save their lives, how are they still around?
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Scribblenauts was so bad that people needed to write faqs on ways to make controls a bit more tolerable.
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Scribblenauts got boring really fast
one of the few times that massive hype just backfired (Resistance 2 was another)
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Yup. Scribblenauts has already outsold Mirror's Edge. Probably will easily clear a million worldwide when all is said and done. I think they're making a major mis-step moving off the DS platform, though.
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Mirror's Edge already cleared a million. Don't mention that POS overrated novelty DS games with the GOTG, please.
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Was the list in reverse ?
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thread bump reminded me to check and see if there were more top 10 lists, and there were
http://fidgit.com/archives/2009/12/10_most_disappointing_games_of_1.php
http://fidgit.com/archives/2009/12/the_top_10_games_of_2009.php
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I was of course speaking of a single platform, though you can choose whatever platform you'd like. And yes, Scribblenauts is going to outsell it, even combined, when all is said and done. Sorry.
If it helps, most people's GOTGs from last gen were outsold by Enter the Matrix. Also, you will never realize most, if not all, of the dreams of your youth.
:'(
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thread bump reminded me to check and see if there were more top 10 lists, and there were
http://fidgit.com/archives/2009/12/10_most_disappointing_games_of_1.php
http://fidgit.com/archives/2009/12/the_top_10_games_of_2009.php
5) Section 8
The most exciting thing to happen to shooters in a long time. Modern Warfare 2, an excellent multiplayer game, pales in comparison. Section 8 may be too subversive for its own good, but it's the first game to live up to the promise of Tribes, lo, those many years ago. Also perfectly playable single player or with small groups, thanks to excellent bot support.
4) Flower
A powerful and moving story about redemption, told in the vocabulary of videogaming. Without using a single word, either written or spoken, Flower is a lucid articulate example of what videogames can accomplish at their best and most concise.
3) Need for Speed: Shift
It's a damn fine racing game that beats out Forza 3, Dirt 2, and Wipeout HD Fury. Need for Speed: Shift manages two things most other driving games have yet to master: 1) the dangerous "feel" of driving fast and 2) gameplay progression designed to keep you playing and replaying races without feeling like you're just spinning your wheels. This is the finest driving model and campaign mode ever to grace a racing game.
2) House of the Dead: Overkill
One of the best written games of the year and the best game soundtrack of all time - of all time! - is also a light gun game for the Nintendo Wii? What the heck is going on here?
1) Brutal Legend
Something strange happened this year, and I'm not just talking about a light gun game being the second best game of the year. What's strange is that you're not now reading about Red Faction: Guerrilla or Assassin's Creed 2. They both belong here. This is their space. They are both fantastic games with some of the most amazing technology to grace a videogame. What's more, they both understand how to make that technology serve the gameplay.
Fuck off.
(Aimed at Chick not swaggaz)
Dude is an idiot and his top 5 shows exactly why.
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STONEY MASON PWNED
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:lol
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3) Need for Speed: Shift
It's a damn fine racing game that beats out Forza 3, Dirt 2, and Wipeout HD Fury.
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3) Need for Speed: Shift
It's a damn fine racing game that beats out Forza 3, Dirt 2, and Wipeout HD Fury.
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Yeah it really is stupid stuff he is spouting. I picked the Top 5 specifically because each one of those games has major issues and flaws which makes his 10 top over-rated laughable by comparison. Even the ones I like such as Brutal Legend which certainly isn't the best game this year by a longshot and has a shitload of flaws. And I played Section 8. Everybody's entitled to their opinion mindset aside, he's just trolling people.
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I make no claim that these are the best games of 2009. I wouldn't begin to know how to go about deducing which games are the best. It would take a team of scientists, and the few scientists I know are very busy with other things. So instead, I can only offer you a list of my favorite games of the year. In other words, tops as far as I'm concerned.
u guys r dum
His claims are bullshit. The things he says about Shift compared to Forza are bullshit. The things he says about Section 8 are bullshit or at best ignore the heaping pile of shit that is contained in that game (console version at least). He's certainly entitled to his poorly thrown out there Letterman-esque top ten lists that are bullshit. I'm just going to say they are bullshit. It's not about being a fanboy in this situation. I'm as big a fanboy of Tim Schaefer as possible. He's simply throwing out bad opinions which is subjective but then his reasoning behind the bad opinions which could salvage the whole thing is even worse. Shitty writter.
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That Top 10 list is certainly different than I expected, even accounting for his undying love for Solium Infernum
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meltdowns over lists lol
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opinion police out in force i see
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Scribblenauts I think is the perfect example of journos buying into their own hype. It was cool at E3 because they were only allowed to play it 10 minutes at a time, but when it actually hit retail most people figured out that it was nothing but a glorified tech demo.
Man, 5th Cell can't make a good game to save their lives, how are they still around?
I never really hear people talk about Scribblenauts outside of GAF and a random status update on deadmau5's Facebook. Really surprised it's taken off so far, it just screams "niche". The concept sounds cool and worth trying, but I doubt I'd spend $$ on it, based on what I've heard so far.