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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Bebpo on December 20, 2009, 10:37:38 PM

Title: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Bebpo on December 20, 2009, 10:37:38 PM
We're used to the $50 PC game getting $60 release on PS3/X360.

But Capcom's Dark Void is upping the ante.  Console owners get to pay $60 for a PC game that is $40 (or $30).  At some point don't they have to lower the PS3/X360 prices to get closer to PC prices?  Seems kinda ridiculous that Capcom expects console owners to pay $20 more for the EXACT SAME GAME.

X360 version: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Void-Xbox-360/dp/B0016NRS28/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1261366163&sr=8-1 
PC version: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Void-Pc/dp/B0017UGFBK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1261366675&sr=1-1
PC version for $30 on-sale pre-order http://www.stardock.com/media/mailers/DVOID.htm
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: cool breeze on December 20, 2009, 10:44:19 PM
Isn't it because they need to pay Microsoft/Sony a fee or something?
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 20, 2009, 10:47:20 PM
To be fair, with consoles being the lead SKUs, PC gamers have paid for the cheaper price tag in the past year or two (gimped ports, launch issues, etc.).

... That is pretty ridiculous, though. Was anyone going to buy Dark Void to begin with?
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 20, 2009, 10:48:31 PM
The choice for PC gamers is $30 or free...
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 20, 2009, 10:49:14 PM
When there is no actual demand for PC games you have to price them lower. Soon All PC games will be free. Dying platform and all.  :smug
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: cool breeze on December 20, 2009, 10:53:42 PM
To be fair, with consoles being the lead SKUs, PC gamers have paid for the cheaper price tag in the past year or two (gimped ports, launch issues, etc.).

... That is pretty ridiculous, though. Was anyone going to buy Dark Void to begin with?

I have it preordered on Amazon...for PC...it cost $30... :-\

It's by the guys who did Crimson Skies on Xbox and you have a jetpack.  That sold me.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Bebpo on December 20, 2009, 11:30:27 PM
I was planning on grabbing it since I've liked every game Capcom has published on the HD consoles.  But I think I'll wait for impressions now (instead of getting it on x360) and if the game is good & pc version is good I'll get it for PC. 

I mean, the portal designer went to this dev team because she thought they were pretty talented so...maybe the game will be good?  When was the last time Capcom published a bad game that wasn't RE Darkside Chronicles?
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Kestastrophe on December 20, 2009, 11:36:26 PM
the videos of Dark Void actually look pretty cool.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 20, 2009, 11:52:08 PM
I was planning on grabbing it since I've liked every game Capcom has published on the HD consoles.  But I think I'll wait for impressions now (instead of getting it on x360) and if the game is good & pc version is good I'll get it for PC. 

I mean, the portal designer went to this dev team because she thought they were pretty talented so...maybe the game will be good?  When was the last time Capcom published a bad game that wasn't RE Darkside Chronicles?

Bionic Commando
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: duckman2000 on December 20, 2009, 11:53:47 PM
This is the game from the Crimson Skies dudes, right? I'll get it, hopefully my new PC likes it.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: ManaByte on December 21, 2009, 12:30:17 AM
When you make an Xbox 360 game you get a nearly free PC port out of it that can pretty much be converted from 360 to PC by an unpaid programming intern. Thus PC ports should usually be cheaper, unless you're Activision.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Cormacaroni on December 21, 2009, 12:37:43 AM
Bebpo, I find it odd that you see this as victimization of console owners rather than a boon for the remaining PC gamers. The PC game market is dying because of piracy, and publishers are responding by offering cheap games (as well as downloads, dedicated servers and what have you. On the other hand, they're mostly bare bones ports). That's not optimal, but it's better than a kick in the teeth. Obviously, it's the console versions which are subsidizing the whole enterprise at this point so they have to be full price.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Robo on December 21, 2009, 12:41:57 AM
I was planning on grabbing it since I've liked every game Capcom has published on the HD consoles.  But I think I'll wait for impressions now (instead of getting it on x360) and if the game is good & pc version is good I'll get it for PC. 

I mean, the portal designer went to this dev team because she thought they were pretty talented so...maybe the game will be good?  When was the last time Capcom published a bad game that wasn't RE Darkside Chronicles?

Bionic Commando

WRONG
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: ManaByte on December 21, 2009, 12:46:39 AM
Dark Void = Finally a Rocketeer game that may not suck.

This 1991 one doesn't count:
(http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/original/1218657955-03.png)
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: archie4208 on December 21, 2009, 01:09:45 AM
Because companies know that consolites are stupid enough to spend $60 on the shiniest new 6 hour shooter while PC gamers have refined taste and aren't fooled by flashy, yet shallow, experiences. :smug
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: ManaByte on December 21, 2009, 02:22:00 AM
If the PC port is cheap enough and is GFWL, it's almost worth getting both it and th 360 for double achievements. The PC version always counts separately on your gamertag.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: demi on December 21, 2009, 05:23:51 AM
Do I have to link the Steam stats again? Nobody plays PC games, I have proven this. Even the most popular of popular isnt popular.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: demi on December 21, 2009, 09:42:14 AM
Then Gabe Newell summons a giant donut and he eats it then everyone dies the end
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: demi on December 21, 2009, 09:45:29 AM
Because companies know that consolites are stupid enough to spend $60 on the shiniest new 6 hour shooter while PC gamers have refined taste and aren't fooled by flashy, yet shallow, experiences. :smug

Cool so what was the top PC sales. SIMS? Spore? TF2? WoW?

You fat nerd. Go get a haircut.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Purple Filth on December 21, 2009, 10:02:13 AM
When the PC market either pirates or waits until a game is half off on Steam, expectations of reasonable profitability is thrown out the window.

Bebpo, since you love RPGs let me explain it with a story that could be found in the games you play:

Imagine that you're a well traveled merchant (game publisher) that has come to peddle his wares (games) to a town of lepers (pc gamers). Since these lepers are poor and down trodden, most of them steal (pirates) or wait until the local market winds down and the left-overs are heavily discounted (steam users). Some even wait until nightfall to travel to the the glorious city of Console Gaming and scrounge the garbage cans for the decayed hand me downs of the upper class.

It's much easier to simply ignore these pc gamer lepers and let them wallow in their own filth but you're a kind hearted merchant and realize that these people need trade as well. Sadly they cannot afford your goods so as a noble spirit you lower the prices to their level. While you may not profit off these people, the city filled with upper class console gamers will purchase enough so you can still make a healthy profit for the month, so all is well.

nice  :lol
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 21, 2009, 11:28:32 AM
When the PC market either pirates or waits until a game is half off on Steam, expectations of reasonable profitability is thrown out the window.

Bebpo, since you love RPGs let me explain it with a story that could be found in the games you play:

Imagine that you're a well traveled merchant (game publisher) that has come to peddle his wares (games) to a town of lepers (pc gamers). Since these lepers are poor and down trodden, most of them steal (pirates) or wait until the local market winds down and the left-overs are heavily discounted (steam users). Some even wait until nightfall to travel to the the glorious city of Console Gaming and scrounge the garbage cans for the decayed hand me downs of the upper class.

It's much easier to simply ignore these pc gamer lepers and let them wallow in their own filth but you're a kind hearted merchant and realize that these people need trade as well. Sadly they cannot afford your goods so as a noble spirit you lower the prices to their level. While you may not profit off these people, the city filled with upper class console gamers will purchase enough so you can still make a healthy profit for the month, so all is well.

Completely Awesome.  :smug

If I ever wanted to be permed from GAF this would be my final post just to annoy jackasses like brain stew and Teknopathetic who masturbaste every night as they gently caress their PC's.
Title: Re: So what's up with the continued rapeage of consolites?
Post by: Fragamemnon on December 21, 2009, 02:53:32 PM
Seriously though, what is the difference between this and publishers cutting deals with brick and mortar retailers a couple of years ago such that new PC games were discounted from $39.99 to $29.99 for one week right after they came out? Happened all the time, even to games that sold well. And that was in a marketplace way less competitive than the current digital one, where the lack of shelf space restrictions means games are having to compete with a lot more product in a more cost-conscientious environment.