THE BORE

General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: The Fake Shemp on December 29, 2009, 10:13:27 AM

Title: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 29, 2009, 10:13:27 AM
Putin: Russia to develop offensive weapons to keep balance with U.S.

From Maxim Tkachenko, CNN
December 29, 2009 8:13 a.m. EST
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Moscow, Russia (CNN) -- Russia needs to develop "offensive strike systems" to preserve strategic balance with the United States, without producing its own missile defense, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Tuesday.

Putin's comment, made at a press briefing in the far eastern Russian city of Vladivostok, echoed a similar call from Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last week.

"If we want to retain the balance, we have to establish an exchange of information: Let the U.S. partners provide us information on [their] missile defense while we will give them information on [our] offensive weapons," Putin said.

Putin also spoke positively about ongoing negotiations between the two countries on a new nuclear arms control agreement that would replace the U.S.-Russian START treaty, which expired December 5.

The United States and Russia plan to complete it and sign it at the beginning of 2010, Russian and American leaders have said. As envisioned, the new treaty would significantly reduce nuclear arms on both sides.

"I think that we need certain rules on weapons limitation which could be equally understood, easily verifiable and transparent," Putin said. "The existence of those rules is better than their absence."

He repeated that offensive and defensive arms should be linked, because they are closely related.

"It was the balance of forces -- including missile defense, air defense and offensive weapons systems -- that preserved peace even during the Cold War," Putin said.

"Since we are not developing [our own] missile defense, there is a threat that our [U.S.] partners would feel totally secure having created an umbrella against our offensive systems," he added. "Then our partners might do whatever they want; the aggressiveness in real politics and economics would increase because of the broken balance."

Last week, in Medvedev's year-end live interview with three Russian TV channels, he reiterated that Russia will continue to develop strategic offensive missiles after the signing of the new START treaty.

"This is normal," Medvedev said. "The whole world is doing this. Of course, this work needs to take place within the framework of conventions and agreements, including our future agreements with the Americans. But this process will continue and our nuclear shield will always be effective and sufficient for protecting our national interest."

Medvedev added, "That doesn't mean that we cannot talk about a nuclear-free world. It's a beautiful and right goal. But we should approach it gradually. ... Not only Russians and Americans, but also other countries who are looking forward to joining the 'nuclear club,' thus causing many problems, should take part in it."
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Post by: Ichirou on December 29, 2009, 10:18:54 AM
They already have enough nukes to destroy the world a thousand times over, so...they're going to make more?
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: Powerslave on December 29, 2009, 10:20:37 AM
Humanity is doomed, stop having faith.
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 29, 2009, 10:22:26 AM
They already have enough nukes to destroy the world a thousand times over, so...they're going to make more?

I think they're going to develop more ballistic missiles and EMP weapons and stuff of that sort. We'll find all new ways to destroy each other! Balance of power +1!
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 29, 2009, 10:35:38 AM
You can't hug your children with nuclear arms.
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: Tieno on December 29, 2009, 10:38:35 AM
The US is too powerful and has too many weapons, Russia needs to balance it, China too.
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Post by: Tauntaun on December 29, 2009, 10:38:58 AM
EMP weapons are teh awesome.

(http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/92563656/10676347)
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on December 29, 2009, 10:39:35 AM
Wouldn't the balance of power be shifted in favor of Russia and China if they both tried to outdo the US in an arms race?
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: Brehvolution on December 29, 2009, 10:50:35 AM
Yes. Russia and China would then merge to form
(http://i50.tinypic.com/x22ixv.jpg)
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: Powerslave on December 29, 2009, 11:05:04 AM
Guys I just thought of something. Imagine if Transformers the movie was made.
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: Mandark on December 29, 2009, 01:12:28 PM
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/12/17/41-senators-to-obama-no-start-without-nuclear-modernization/

On top of that, the GOP's gonna be a pain in the ass about any arms reduction on the US side.  This is all so dumb.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on December 29, 2009, 01:14:22 PM
Russia  :lol

Their Geogria campaign was a fiasco and now this  :lol

I seem to recall you shitting bricks over Russia not too long ago
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Post by: Flannel Boy on December 29, 2009, 01:16:01 PM
Russia  :lol

Their Geogria campaign was a fiasco and now this  :lol

I seem to recall you shitting bricks over Russia not too long ago

Annihilated.
Title: Re: What do we need to get out of this slump? A GOOD 'OLE FASHIONED ARMS RACE!!!!!!
Post by: Joe Molotov on December 29, 2009, 02:23:00 PM
Sounds like it time for Obama to get his head out of his ass and approve this:

[youtube=560,345]REPFvge7xq0[/youtube]