THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Stoney Mason on January 04, 2010, 07:42:35 PM
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Were you unenthused by the rumor that EA Sports new title would be an NFL-branded trainer for the Wii? You'll like this one better. ESPN.com says the game will be an updated NBA Jam, for the Wii.
Citing "unnamed sources," ESPN.com says EA Sports got the rights from the NBA to deliver an updated version of the arcade classic for retail release. The report adds that the game's creator, Mark Turmell, has been hired on by EA Sports Canada to consult on the product.
NBA Jam was a wildly successful 2-on-2 basketball game first released by Midway to the arcades in 1993, and later ported by Acclaim to the Super Nintendo and Genesis. The success of EA Sports' arcade-style titles for the NHL and NFL in the past year makes it a good bet they'd want to spin up an NBA offering sometime soon. The demise of Midway (and Acclaim back in 2004), also means the NBA Jam name is likely held by someone unlikely to develop it anytime soon, and probably happy to make a quick buck off the IP.
An EA Sports spokesperson told Kotaku the publisher wouldn't comment on rumor or speculation - but did add the announcement is set for sometime next week.
I emailed contacts with EA Sports and the Vancouver studio to ask for comment. Anything they say will be updated here.
http://kotaku.com/5440036/rumor-nba-jam-returning---to-wii
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DAMN BRO WII IS OFF THE CHAIN
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this exclusive is a SLAM DUNK
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CHAOS DUNK
shut up and jam
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First screenshot:
(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/3/198053/nba2k_790screen016.jpg)
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oh god
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Is that Cheryl Miller?
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Smart move by EA. A lot of the old school JAM fans have migrated to the Wii this generation and there's less competition there
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that's the xbla/psn version
wii version:
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I hope Bill Clinton is back as a hidden character.
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I'll take it, regardless of console.
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I wouldn't mind an NBA Showtime port on XBLA/PSN, with online play. This remake will only interest me if they still keep digitized characters, lol.
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XBLA
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Smart move by EA. A lot of the old school JAM fans have migrated to the Wii this generation and there's less competition there
So fans of an NBA videogame have migrated to a console that has yet to have a half-decent NBA game?
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Smart move by EA. A lot of the old school JAM fans have migrated to the Wii this generation and there's less competition there
less competition because nobody is making games for the system.
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yeah i am without a doubt the biggest fan of nba jam on the internet and i migrated to the sexbox :smug
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A lot of the old school jam fans are unemployed and in their 30's.
:lol
Goatse just lost it's title as the most impressive stretch on the web.
:lol
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(http://n64media.ign.com/media/previews/newimages/nbainthezone2000/itz2k7.JPG)
BOOMSHAKALAKA
(http://n64media.ign.com/media/previews/image/nbaitz1.jpg)
OH MY HE'S ON FIRE
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[youtube=560,345]5mf98dAnQ88[/youtube]
:rock
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the snes version is an abortion
superior genesis version :rock
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How did that guy win the tip-off?
the snes version is an abortion
superior genesis version :rock
Genesis announcer sounds less like Marv Albert, though
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Anybody remember the pay structure at the arcade? Wasn't it 25 cents for a 2 minute quarter or some ripoff?
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XBLA
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2d7g0ag.jpg)
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superior genesis version :rock
I had the tournament edition on the Genesis. :rock
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I'll buy it
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Should I care about this franchise ???
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Should I care about this franchise ???
TERRIBLE SHOT
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the snes version is an abortion
superior genesis version :rock
They're both ass. ARCADE. :rock
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Should I care about this franchise ???
TERRIBLE SHOT
Answer the question.
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Answer the question.
Ever play NFL Blitz? Enjoy it? Then yeah. Shit's badass n stuff; timeless classic, blah blah blah.
Seriously, download a rom and check it out. I imagine it's aged fairly well
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superior genesis version :rock
I had the tournament edition on the Genesis. :rock
I had the Sega CD version. Superior one. God damn, I love NBA Jam. My brother got pissed at me all the time because the AI was distinguished mentally-challenged. I'd hang in the back court, while my brother and his AI would cover me, then I make an impossible pass to my teammate who is all alone in the paint. BOOMSHAKALAKA!
Oh, and goal tending. FUCK THAT. I hated that warning. At least I could keep my On Fire if I did it.
Nintendosbooger should update his Top Ten Wii Xclusivez List.
Shit. I was going to say that.
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Shit it was UGLY SHOT, not TERRIBLE SHOT :'(
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When I went to DigiPen, there was an NFL Blitz arcade machine for freeplay setup in the cafeteria. (Amongst other machines)
One day the display was JUST red and black. So someone stuck a piece of paper next to the marquee that made it say "Virtual Boy Blitz"
It was still awesome to play.
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I loved those sweet halftime video sequences (now called gifs) that were the same every time.
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My friend at Midway, err Warner Brothers, is fuming about this. He wasn't aware EA owned grabbed the rights. He just now found out. :rofl
OH MY, HE'S ON FIRE
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My friend at Midway, err Warner Brothers, is fuming about this. He wasn't aware EA owned grabbed the rights. He just now found out. :rofl
That's sad. Mark Turmell must be quite salty as well.
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My friend at Midway, err Warner Brothers, is fuming about this. He wasn't aware EA owned grabbed the rights. He just now found out. :rofl
That's sad. Mark Turmell must be quite salty as well.
The game's original creator, Mark Turmell, who currently works at EA Tiburon as a senior creative director, is allegedly collaborating on the project.
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Should I care about this franchise ???
TERRIBLE SHOT
Answer the question.
it's nostalgia hype.
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it's nostalgia hype.
At this stage yes.
But then that is what fuels 90% of the interest in gaming for most franchises.
An updated redone and retooled NBA Jam as an XBLA/PSN level title would interest me. But probably not a full fledged $40 to $60 retail game.
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will buy if there are enough awesome new cameos
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Lol who cares about NBA Jam. Why all the meltdowns? A 3rd rate franchise being released on a 3rd rate console sounds normal to me.
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it's nostalgia hype.
At this stage yes.
But then that is what fuels 90% of the interest in gaming for most franchises.
An updated redone and retooled NBA Jam as an XBLA/PSN level title would interest me. But probably not a full fledged $40 to $60 retail game.
but people will get bored with it in a few hours because EA can't recreate their childhood hype level for NBA Jam. Particularly since the game's fun came out of how imbalanced it is; the makings of an amazing game just aren't there. That's why no one has made an NBA Jam in 10 years...it wasn't because the game was so awesome that it needed to be kept under wraps to generate hype. That's the problem with most of these reboots. Watch it happen.
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Why all the meltdowns?
???
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http://twitter.com/DavidEllis
@andrewpfister It's a Wii exclusive initially.
so there is still hope for a non-shitty version!
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Why all the meltdowns?
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I just read the GAf thread. People are mad that this game is a Wii exclusive. Who cares.
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Stoney, "allegedly"
Lol who cares about NBA Jam. Why all the meltdowns? A 3rd rate franchise being released on a 3rd rate console sounds normal to me.
You're such a non-gamer. ::)
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but people will get bored with it in a few hours because EA can't recreate their childhood hype level for NBA Jam. Particularly since the game's fun came out of how imbalanced it is; the makings of an amazing game just aren't there. That's why no one has made an NBA Jam in 10 years...it wasn't because the game was so awesome that it needed to be kept under wraps to generate hype. That's the problem with most of these reboots. Watch it happen.
I think you could make a fine updated and rebalanced NBA Jam and people would like it. Like I said not at the $60 dollar level because at its core the appeal of NBA Jam is as an arcade game. Which is right at that XBLA level. Same as something like Pac Man Championship edition.
As a full price release I agree. It can't match nostalgia love because the appeal of the game has always been a simple fun arcade title. Same as NFL Blitz. You can't sell arcade games for $60 or even $40 dollars at today's retail.
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Stoney, "allegedly"
Actually I named the thread title to rile up people because its so easy especially with recent events on here regarding the Wii but factually its correct. NBA Jam is coming back and its a Wii exclusive. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing and why is up to an individual to decide or even if they care about this particular franchise anymore.
As far as meltdowns, who is melting down in this thread?
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it's nostalgia hype.
At this stage yes.
But then that is what fuels 90% of the interest in gaming for most franchises.
An updated redone and retooled NBA Jam as an XBLA/PSN level title would interest me. But probably not a full fledged $40 to $60 retail game.
but people will get bored with it in a few hours because EA can't recreate their childhood hype level for NBA Jam. Particularly since the game's fun came out of how imbalanced it is; the makings of an amazing game just aren't there. That's why no one has made an NBA Jam in 10 years...it wasn't because the game was so awesome that it needed to be kept under wraps to generate hype. That's the problem with most of these reboots. Watch it happen.
Naw, if I actually had a Wii I'd be mildly interested. There's pretty much nothing left in sports games except for the insipid yearly sims that cater to ex-jocks, and I could see it being at least decent if they try. Think NBA Street only faster paced and less clunky
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yeah, goes without saying it can't be a $60 game. I'm gonna disagree on the Pac-Man analogy...dude, that's Pac-Man, a proven timeless game. I put NBA Jam on the Killer Instinct end of the nostalgia hype scale-- probably gonna turn out ugly and break a lot of hearts. but we'll see.
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yeah, goes without saying it can't be a $60 game. I'm gonna disagree on the Pac-Man analogy...dude, that's Pac-Man, a proven timeless game. I put NBA Jam on the Killer Instinct end of the nostalgia hype scale-- probably gonna turn out ugly and break a lot of hearts. but we'll see.
The Pac Man reference is more about remaking an arcade game and how much you can sell it for. It's why things like Outrun or Bionic Commando or Virtual On or other arcade properties are better suited as XBLA type stuff nowadays since nobody in their right mind is going to pay large money for that stuff.
The only exception to this seems to be fighting games although even the interest in buying those at full price has declined relative to where it use to be for the bulk of consumers.
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My friend at Midway, err Warner Brothers, is fuming about this. He wasn't aware EA owned grabbed the rights. He just now found out. :rofl
Your friend should be lobbying for an arcade-perfect port of Rush 2049 on XBLA/PSN.
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You missed the awesome ESPN article's tidbits.
http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4795625
The Pippen Jinx
Did Scottie Pippen's ratings really drop when he played certain teams or was I just the least clutch shooter every time I played Detroit? "It's true, but only when the Bulls played the Pistons," explained Turmell. "If there was a close game and anyone on the Bulls took a last second shot, we wrote special code in the game so that they would average out to be bricks. There was the big competition back in the day between the Pistons and the Bulls, and since I was always a big Pistons fan, that was my opportunity to level the playing field."
Played the fuck out of the SNES version. Mitch Richmond :rock
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You missed the awesome ESPN article's tidbits.
http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4795625
The Pippen Jinx
Did Scottie Pippen's ratings really drop when he played certain teams or was I just the least clutch shooter every time I played Detroit? "It's true, but only when the Bulls played the Pistons," explained Turmell. "If there was a close game and anyone on the Bulls took a last second shot, we wrote special code in the game so that they would average out to be bricks. There was the big competition back in the day between the Pistons and the Bulls, and since I was always a big Pistons fan, that was my opportunity to level the playing field."
:rofl
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Lol who cares about NBA Jam. Why all the meltdowns? A 3rd rate franchise being released on a 3rd rate console sounds normal to me.
I like arcade sports games, but I'd rather see a new (good) version of NBA Street over NBA Jam. EA BIG :'(
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I like arcade sports games, but I'd rather see a new (good) version of NBA Street over NBA Jam. EA BIG :'(
Same for me.
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I'd take NFL Blitz over both. Nothing like celebrating a sack with belly flops and elbow drops on the downed QB
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It's gonna be a shitty game, and no one will buy it, and wiitards will keep defending 3rd parties kind of success on the Wii.
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wiitards
this + your edgy Eminem avatar = you're a douche.
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Can't wait for the first unboxing vids for this game on youtube.
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wty97NvK1M[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4N0-0xUklM[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-0-tZEPT8A[/youtube]
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Looks actually pretty good for a Wii game.
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I'd take NFL Blitz over both. Nothing like celebrating a sack with belly flops and elbow drops on the downed QB
$25 for Blitz 2 on 360
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-dh-77-2-49-en-15-blitz-70-2w2o.html
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Oh :lol Nice to know that exists. Is it good?
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(http://i48.tinypic.com/2zp4n7t.jpg)
:bow wii :bow2
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that screen wasn't a joke
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2v1oz69.jpg)
Wii.
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that screen wasn't a joke
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2v1oz69.jpg)
Wii.
Game is unrealistic. It looks like Garnett knocked over someone who isn't a 6' European point guard.
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ea taking art tips from ancient egypt i see
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that screen wasn't a joke
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2v1oz69.jpg)
Wii.
Game is unrealistic. It looks like Garnett knocked over someone who isn't a 6' European point guard.
:rofl
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The game looks really weird. Like I thought that first pic was a photoshop from some sports thread. Did they map photo faces on the players or something?
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The game looks really weird. Like I thought that first pic was a photoshop from some sports thread. Did they map photo faces on the players or something?
apparently
So I read through the article in NP, heres what I got:
- 2 Modes, 1 is called Classic Campaign, plays pretty much identical to previous NBA Jams, 2v2 [3 players to choose from], no rules other than shot clock and goaltending. The other is called Remix Tour, which is different, changing the core mechanics, rule tweaks, and camera tweaks etc. The devs didnt want to go into detail on the Remix Tour mode yet.
- Theres tons of new dunks, a new spin move that can evade the shove move.
- The faces are actual photograph captures, each character has multiple faces, 3 faces while running the court, 2 dunk faces, and a positive and negative face. (Looks hilarious.
Basically its 3d bodies with 2d heads)
- Option of motion controls or holding the wiimote sideways. Didnt see any mention of the Classic Controller
- NP provided a checklist of what is in the game:
Fire
Shattering Backboard
Cheats
Flashing Shoes
Flashing ball
Big Head Mode
Legends
Playable Mascots
Secret Characters
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2v2 [3 players to choose from]
:wtf
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Basically its 3d bodies with 2d heads
take that hollywood gamers
2v2 [3 players to choose from]
:wtf
NBA Jam has always been 2 on 2
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Didn't we all vote in Willco's thread that nobody not even their dog cares about non-Mario and non-Zelda Wii games?
This is true, but everyone ignores it to keep the fire of trolling alive.
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youre probably too young to know the glory of nba jam so im just going to let that last one slide
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2v2 [3 players to choose from]
:wtf
3 people from each team to choose from, you pick two when you play
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youre probably too young to know the glory of nba jam so im just going to let that last one slide
If this was directed at me, not only am I not a sports game fan, but when I did play it was Blitz. I prefer actually playing B-Ball since it's the only sport I like.
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lol. I like the look. It looks cheesey like the original looked. Like somebody just shopped digitized heads onto player models. I'm cool with that.
The faces probably animate like this :kylielaff which I can dig.
I also like the sound of a spin move that evades a shove. NBA Jam was essentially a thugfest if you played it correctly so anything to help avoid that a little would be nice.
Probably won't purchase or Gamefly for the Wii but I have a feeling this is coming in some form later to the HD consoles so I might scope it out then.
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that screen wasn't a joke
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2v1oz69.jpg)
Wii.
Do. Fucking. Want.
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Glad to see developers shunning away from the ultra realistic style that the Wii is weakest at. Stylized graphics are the way to go. I was playing MadWorld and thought the game looked pretty good due to the unique art style (shame the game sucks, though.)
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(http://i47.tinypic.com/2uib0aw.jpg)
Made me lol.
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of course it did
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because youll laugh at anything
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You will believe!
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXHwxDP6rxo[/youtube]
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[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62iumt4j54w[/youtube]
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Boner
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It actually looks good. I can't wait for the superior XBLA version. :drool
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It actually looks good. I can't wait for the superior XBLA version. :drool
This.
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Game looks delectable. I think this and trackmania will be my last wii retail purchases of the year. Although hopefully the sideways wiimote controls for jam are useable. I don't want to be using the b trigger or anything like that.
That reminds me, in the original NBA jam games, did you have to use shoot in conjunction with anything besides turbo? I was thinking they could put the shoot move on the a button since you wouldn't need the dpad to use that in any way. I imagine spin would be waggle, 1&2 would be turbo and shove/pass
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lol Deron Williams looking even more fatheaded than usual
Game looks delectable. I think this and trackmania will be my last wii retail purchases of the year. Although hopefully the sideways wiimote controls for jam are useable. I don't want to be using the b trigger or anything like that.
That reminds me, in the original NBA jam games, did you have to use shoot in conjunction with anything besides turbo? I was thinking they could put the shoot move on the a button since you wouldn't need the dpad to use that in any way. I imagine spin would be waggle, 1&2 would be turbo and shove/pass
Shoot was just Y on SNES
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Well, looks like I'm getting the Wii out. There is no fucking way I'm not getting this game.
This is my favorite sports franchise of all time.
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It’s official: NBA Jam is coming to PS3 and 360. Yay! Bad news: there’s no PSN/Xbox Live Arcade release planned.Instead, the only way to get the game is if you buy NBA Elite 11 for PS3 and 360. And even then, EA’s Jordan Edelstein admits that it won’t be the full Jam experience.“We’re still holding back the Remix Tour for the Wii consumer, and that’s about 20 hours of gameplay,” Edelstein told ESPN.“But for the PS3 and 360, we want people to try ‘Elite’. We feel like ‘NBA Elite 11′ is a great product and we want people to give it a chance and see all the changes we’re making. So as a way to say thanks to these people, we are going to let them experience ‘Jam’. It’s not the full product, but it’s a good portion of it.”And to reiterate: “We’re not selling ‘Jam’ on PSN or Xbox Live. If you still want the full product, the full experience is on the Wii, but if you pick up ‘Elite’, you’re still getting a good taste of it, especially with the inclusion of online play.”
idiots. Looks like I won't be trying the new jam.
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They're doing this with Dead Space Extraction and Medal of Honor Frontline too I think. Those games are bonuses when you buy Dead Space 2 and the new MoH, but you can't get them on XBLA/PSN or whatever.
oh well. It's still a bit funny how this is a bonus on the PS3/360 while the Wii version is a full priced game and the difference is that Remix Tour (but no online, according to people on gaf).
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It pisses me off although I'm sure eventually the full version will come to XBLA/PSN.
No EA I'm not going to buy your shitty basketball game just so I can play NBA Jam.
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That is such a confusing decision. It would have been far simpler to just have every version be a retail release.
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Would have bought a PSN/XBLA release, but will skip it entirely now.
Will pick up Dead Space 2 LE on PS3 though for Extraction since unlike NBA Elite I actually want to play DS2.
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That is such a confusing decision. It would have been far simpler to just have every version be a retail release.
The problem is you can't sell Jam for $60 dollars on the HD consoles. It just won't sell at that price. Maybe on the Wii which has no games anyway but not on the 360/PS3. So they were probably scared of selling a Wii game for full price and a better HD version at XBLA prices at the same time. So they are delaying the HD versions to separate it from the Wii version. In the mean time they do this bullshit move to try to prop up their rebranded basketball title. Just my speculation.
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I believe the Wii version has a quest mode to add gameplay depth, though. EA should have really sold it for $50 on each system and ensured that the features were the same between every console. Now it sounds like that there is no 'definitive' version and everyone gets screwed in the end.
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I believe the Wii version has a quest mode to add gameplay depth, though. EA should have really sold it for $50 on each system and ensured that the features were the same between every console. Now it sounds like that there is no 'definitive' version and everyone gets screwed in the end.
Wii version also has no online play. Which would make that version useless for me. And also the fact that it's $50 bucks. I simply would never spend 50 or 60 bucks on any version of NBA Jam on any platform and I consider myself a pretty big jam fan. It's just not that kind of game. It's perfect for XBLA/PSN style pricing however.
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It just should've of been 40 bucks across all platforms, with online and story mode for all the skus. EA :lol
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What the hell is with this attitude that this game isn't worth full retail price? It has awesome presentation, runs at 60 frames percent, a punch-out esque mode against nba legacy stars, whatever the hell remix mode is, multiple multiplayer modes. It looks like a fun game with arcade sentiments and a ton of replay value. If this can't be upper echelon of pricing I don't understand how any sports game could. I'm all for this being on as many platforms as applicable, (as long as I get my wii version) but its frustrating seeing people constantly relegate certain types of games to "bargain only" status.
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Because NBA Jam is a pretty shallow game at its core. It's awesome, but it only has the depth of a modern XBLA/PSN game. You can dress it up all you want with modes, but it's a fun arcade game that should sell at modern arcade price ($15-20).
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What the hell is with this attitude that this game isn't worth full retail price? It has awesome presentation, runs at 60 frames percent, a punch-out esque mode against nba legacy stars, whatever the hell remix mode is, multiple multiplayer modes. It looks like a fun game with arcade sentiments and a ton of replay value. If this can't be upper echelon of pricing I don't understand how any sports game could. I'm all for this being on as many platforms as applicable, (as long as I get my wii version) but its frustrating seeing people constantly relegate certain types of games to "bargain only" status.
Yeah fuck all that. I'm not going to pay $60 for NBA Jam. I might pay up to $20 dollars for it. And that is it. If you want to pay $60 dollars for it then be my guest.
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Because nobody wants to pay full price for a Wii game
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This is why games are miserably contrived these days. I'm going to crossreference people who share y'alz sentiments and see if they were willing to partake Street Fighter 4 no complaints.
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Because nobody wants to pay full price for a Wii game
Even Capcom agrees!
http://www.amazon.com/Sengoku-Basara-Samurai-Heroes-Playstation-3/dp/B002X9KYFW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1280886995&sr=8-2
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This is why games are miserably contrived these days. I'm going to crossreference people who spout these same words and see if they were willing to partake Street Fighter 4 no complaints.
Why in god's name are you worried about what I'm willing to spend on a videogame? But if you want to talk basic facts lets see how it sells on the Wii when it comes out and how it would sell on the HD consoles for $60. My guess is not so great. But we'll see I suppose.
Talking about NBA Jam here.
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Street Fighter 4 is on Wii? ???
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Stoney, it aint ya specifically. I just see this attitude everywhere that arcade sports games, platformers, puzzle games, etc could never fit into higher price brackets. This is often assumed first and never is the content of the product researched by the people who say these things.
Personally, I feel games ARE too expensive. But ,relatively, I don't see how something that looks as kinetic and polished and replayable as NBA jam could be of any less value than Metal Gear Solid 4.
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Street Fighter 4 is on Wii? ???
Streetfighter 4 is an arcadegame focused on multiplayer with a vanilla vs. cpu component. I'm probably off base but I didn't hear anyone complaining how that "should" have been an xbla title.
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There should be variable price points on games imo. The reality is the general public does not want to spend $60 dollars on all these titles.
Perhaps if more titles were funded at the appropriate level and budget and charged a relative price there wouldn't be so many bombs.
I love NBA Jam. But the days of me paying $60 dollars for it are over. (For what its worth I bought Jam on the PS 1 full price). Making a $60 NBA Jam is wasting your budget imo.
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There should be variable price points on games imo. The reality is the general public does not want to spend $60 dollars on all these titles.
Perhaps if more titles were funded at the appropriate level and budget and charged a relative price there wouldn't be so many bombs.
I agree. I think everyone here knows a subjective statement when they see one. Could probably drop the "imo". ;p
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There should be variable price points on games imo. The reality is the general public does not want to spend $60 dollars on all these titles.
Perhaps if more titles were funded at the appropriate level and budget and charged a relative price there wouldn't be so many bombs.
I agree. I think everyone here knows a subjective statement when they see one. Could probably drop the "imo". ;p
I like to leave my "imo's" in there. Keeps me humble. 8)
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lulz. EA confirmed today that the Wii version will have no online. It was pretty obvious that was going to be the case but its still funny to see the confirmation.
So for the mean time now there is currently no complete version of the game on any platform.
:rofl
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Way to kill your own sales.
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I did. I want to play nba gaf some Jam, but fuck it.
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I'll still get it. It kinda sucks though.
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lol online on the Wii. No one cares.
The ironic thing is that since EA uses its own servers for its Wii games, they have free rein over how it is operated. So there's nothing holding them back in that regard. Which makes me wonder if they've had a change of heart ever since they were so reluctant to comply with xbox live on the original xbox.
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Have they said how this is going to be bundled for PS3 and 360? Is it on the same disk, or is it gonna be a redeemable code included in the package kind of deal? Wondering what my chances are of just snatching it up on eBay or something sans horrible NBA Live and the price tag that comes with it.
As stupid of a decision as it is to distribute it like this, I still wouldn't be averse to the idea of paying full retail price if it were bundled with, ya know, an actual video game and not some shitty annual sports sim
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They NAILED it... this is NBA Jam through and through
Plays like shit with Wiimote though, so wait for superior XBLA version of course. But this is pure NBA Jam.
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Apparently the XBLA version got canned since they nixed Elite. EA is supposed to be working on a retail version now.
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I tried to pirate it but it keeps bricking my wii.
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Apparently the XBLA version got canned since they nixed Elite. EA is supposed to be working on a retail version now.
That's what I'm thinking. I'm still going to wait for the X360 version, though, since that's where all the action's going to be at.
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they better retail it at $40. the game is pretty barebones on wii and kinda boring. you play one match and go "oh NBA Jam, yeah....ok." and regret you wasted $40 on it.
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Damn, I would've preferred if they just left out the campaign/career mode and left it cheaper on XBL/PSN. I only care about the online multi with this game and at retail prices I can't imagine I'll be able to get many friends to buy it...
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Agreed. On the bright side, I don't see how this isn't going to bomb way hard, so with any luck we'll see it in the bargain bins not too long after it retails
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You guys are assholes. Real talk.
edit: I mean, it sounds like a lot of work got put into this product. And when it comes to your 360/PS3 you get all that cool shit in addition to online. You really hope it fails so it will hit bargain bins? So you can pick it up for your preferred price based on your sense of entitlement? If this fails, the franchise is dead. Its happened often this generation and it sucks to think of the cinematic 'epic' tripe that is filing the void.
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If it's going to be retailing anywhere near full price, yeah. I just want some cheapo arcadey multiplayer that I can pop in at 2:00 a.m. on Friday night when I'm too drunk to play, uh, real games. Basically just looking for the SNES/Genesis version with a next-gen paint job, an updated roster, and some minor extras. A stripped down XBLA version would have been perfect for me
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You guys are assholes. Real talk.
edit: I mean, it sounds like a lot of work got put into this product. And when it comes to your 360/PS3 you get all that cool shit in addition to online. You really hope it fails so it will hit bargain bins? So you can pick it up for your preferred price based on your sense of entitlement? If this fails, the franchise is dead. Its happened often this generation and it sucks to think of the cinematic 'epic' tripe that is filing the void.
Would have bombed on Wii anyway. Wii is the cause of so many dead franchises...
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But arcade games are the realest of games ???
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You guys are assholes. Real talk.
edit: I mean, it sounds like a lot of work got put into this product. And when it comes to your 360/PS3 you get all that cool shit in addition to online. You really hope it fails so it will hit bargain bins? So you can pick it up for your preferred price based on your sense of entitlement? If this fails, the franchise is dead. Its happened often this generation and it sucks to think of the cinematic 'epic' tripe that is filing the void.
Would have bombed on Wii anyway. Wii is the cause of so many dead franchises...
It's true. Nights obliterated, Samba de Amigo destroyed, probably never see another Excite____ game again.
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Punch Out flop
Major Majestic Parrappa flop
Mario flop
Mega Man flop
Final Fantasy flop
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I thought Punch Out sold like a million copies. ??? And New Super Mario Bros Wii sold like 15 million.
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If it's going to be retailing anywhere near full price, yeah. I just want some cheapo arcadey multiplayer that I can pop in at 2:00 a.m. on Friday night when I'm too drunk to play, uh, real games. Basically just looking for the SNES/Genesis version with a next-gen paint job, an updated roster, and some minor extras. A stripped down XBLA version would have been perfect for me
This.
I'll buy it when it hits the bargain bin on 360.
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I thought Punch Out sold like a million copies. ??? And New Super Mario Bros Wii sold like 15 million.
They were some of the worst in the series. Death of a franchise...
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You guys are assholes. Real talk.
edit: I mean, it sounds like a lot of work got put into this product. And when it comes to your 360/PS3 you get all that cool shit in addition to online. You really hope it fails so it will hit bargain bins? So you can pick it up for your preferred price based on your sense of entitlement? If this fails, the franchise is dead. Its happened often this generation and it sucks to think of the cinematic 'epic' tripe that is filing the void.
Of course it did, XBLA/PSN games usually do have a lot of effort put into them y'know, not like WiiWare crud. Just sayin the Arcadey minimal style of JAM suits a XBLA/PSN release over a retail release and the retail release will probably lead to the game bombing hard, whereas if it got some digital distribution love it could be a real hit. It's obvious EA had a small team workin on Jam, it was a secondary product to it's hyped revamp of NBA Elite, but when they realised Elite needed more time in the oven they're like crap we fucked this up, and pushed the Jam team to quickly chuck the content they left out of the PSN/XBLA versions back into them so they can hopefully recoup some costs by giving it a retail release. If this kills the franchise you can't blame the consumer, that's EA's mismanagement.
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I like EmCeeGrammar and all but he keeps going back to this idea that I must feel a certain way about the price of product (the same as him) or otherwise I'm not being a real gamer or something.
fuck that. Value is relative. Relative to the product and the person. My little opinion doesn't drive the industry. Its just my little opinion. I think paying a monthly fee for WoW is silly. But that's just my opinion. Millions don't.
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Punch Out flop
Major Majestic Parrappa flop
Mario flop
Mega Man flop
Final Fantasy flop
Megaman and Mario did not flop! Punch-Out did about half a mil in the USA, and bombed everywhere else. Major Minor was shit, and Square can't make a good game on any platform.
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Nice FUD.
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I like EmCeeGrammar and all but he keeps going back to this idea that I must feel a certain way about the price of product (the same as him) or otherwise I'm not being a real gamer or something.
fuck that. Value is relative. Relative to the product and the person. My little opinion doesn't drive the industry. Its just my little opinion. I think paying a monthly fee for WoW is silly. But that's just my opinion. Millions don't.
I don't want you or anyone else to feel a certain way about how to spend your money. I'm not presenting an argument counter to the cheap download idea that games that check off certain features and requirements warrant a 40-50 dollar price tag. I would love it if we lived in a world whereas games were priced for impulse and low risk investment for consumers. But its just plain irrational that one thinks its okay to spend 60 dollars on one piece of software with a full amount of features, and then turn around and say that other games shouldn't have this consideration because you might only be using if for the multiplayer. If NBA Jam was just like the old versions, I'd understand. But reading up on the development of this game they are adding a lot of things that make it comparable to any other big release.
tldr
I demand an Orthodoxy of Opinion, mang! Not really, but consistency would be nice.
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It's actually pretty barebones. I only grazed the menus but it was basically
> play now
> career/campaign
> boss battles (lol)
> achievements
> remix campaign (no idea)
> options
> training
also the game was widescreen. omg widescreen.
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Boss battles and Remix Campaign are pretty lengthy from what's been reported. Boss Battles is kinda like a basketball punch-out. Is Multiplayer under 'Play Now' or something?
And I would hope it has widescreen for a basketball game.
edit: I've said this before, but I didn't hear anyone claiming Street Fighter 4 should be a 15 dollar xbla title. Its vs cpu, and multiplayer, with some minigames. Why was that game a justifiable 60 dollar purchase and other arcade titles not?
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It's pretty simple. There is a time and value equation that goes into a purchase for me. If it doesn't hit a certain threshold then it doesn't warrant a certain price for me. Which is fine. Somebody else probably has a completely different value to dollar equation they put into effect when they purchase a game.
I love Jam. But not at full retail price Jam. If other people do then they will buy it and they will keep making more of them. If they don't then they won't. I'm hoping they won't. Because an XBLA level NBA Jam is all I need. But if enough people want to pay full price for it then more power to them. I have a feeling which way this whole thing will shake out based on sales but we'll see I guess.
As far as your edit, I wouldn't pay $60 for a never ending line of Streetfighters myself but then somebody else may feel that way about COD which is their right. I would argue the difference is that NBA Jam is a fairly simply remake of a very old game. The production values shouldn't cost the same as a top of the line game from other genres. But that's just a guess of course. But if NBA Jam is costing the same to make as other triple A titles then EA has a production problem on their hands because it shouldn't.
What I'm really saying is what Optimo essentially said earlier. I don't want the remix mode if it adds cost to the overall product. Separate that shit into DLC like the original plan was going to be. All I want is to occasionally play NBA Jam against people online. I would be just as happy with a port of an older version of Jam or Hangtime as with this new version of Jam. In fact I would buy the old version instead if it was at XBLA pricing.
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I think it would be cool if publishers started releasing their multiplayer components as an optional sku. So, for example, you could buy the whole Halo Reach package for [insert accepted price here] and then release a version with just the splitscreen and online stuff for a fraction of that.
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There's more depth in a single match of SSF4 than ever NBA Jam game ever played. I don't see how this is going to be anything but a dressed up minigame. Plus, I was never playing NBA Jam for the single player and I didn't know a whole lot of people that did, so it seemed like a lite version for XBLA made the most sense
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So now... "depth" enters the equation. How much would you pay for a videogame version of chess then? Same amount as Street Fighter 4?
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I didn't hear anyone claiming Street Fighter 4 should be a 15 dollar xbla title. Its vs cpu, and multiplayer, with some minigames. Why was that game a justifiable 60 dollar purchase and other arcade titles not?
Your SF argument is crap. SFII Turbo HD Remix was released as a downloadable title, and like JAM it looks like the old game with a new lick of paint and some new features, SFIV was a completely revised entry to the series changing core gameplay, introducing new characters and creating new graphics, creating something that resembled what people expect from a $60 game this generation. It may be that JAMs retail release will be as a budget title, it may be that the addition of modes previously only in the Wii version bumped up the size to be greater than is allowed on XBLA (2gb). I don't know. My opinion from what I've seen and read about the game is it's a rip if it sells for more than $30. Then again I think heaps of games this gen are way overpriced.
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So now... "depth" enters the equation. How much would you pay for a videogame version of chess then? Same amount as Street Fighter 4?
??? That's what it was always about. More depth = more time spent = more money worth*
And for what it's worth, I really couldn't care less about whether or not the franchise dies. I would have absolutely no interest in this at all if it were not for the nostalgia factor
*Except archaic board games