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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: archie4208 on January 13, 2010, 11:08:10 AM

Title: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: archie4208 on January 13, 2010, 11:08:10 AM
Delayed again (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jp.playstation.com%2Finfo%2Frelease%2Fnr_20100113_gt5.html)
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 13, 2010, 11:10:06 AM
Tsc tsc
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Jansen on January 13, 2010, 11:10:35 AM
Quote from: duckroll
http://www.jp.playstation.com/info/r...00113_gt5.html

Sony and Polyphony has announced that the title will not make the tentative March 2010 release in Japan. There is no new release date listed, and there are no details as to what development issues resulted in the delay. There has not been an announcement regarding the status of the title outside of Japan.

:rofl
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: The Fake Shemp on January 13, 2010, 11:13:02 AM
How many Forza games will come out before Gran Turismo?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 13, 2010, 11:20:50 AM
The Real Cash Burning Simulator
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 13, 2010, 11:44:05 AM
Methinks Sir Howard needs to go out there and start DDT'ing people until he gets results
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on January 13, 2010, 11:49:23 AM
It's just a month though.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. :lol

Methinks the delay was to add rollover damage, like Forza 3. :lol
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 13, 2010, 11:52:58 AM
so they can add wand support
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: archie4208 on January 13, 2010, 11:54:38 AM
so they can add wand support

You can turn the wand sideways and use it as a steering wheel.  :o
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: maxy on January 13, 2010, 12:19:24 PM
Not surprised,demo was a bit crappy.
Grand Delay saga continues... :lol

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Third on January 13, 2010, 01:08:17 PM
LOL

Still day 1 for me. Whenever that'll be.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2010, 05:06:04 PM
3D y'all
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 13, 2010, 05:10:18 PM
PS4 launch title!
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: pilonv1 on January 13, 2010, 05:24:53 PM
The Real Cash Burning Simulator

:lol
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 13, 2010, 06:43:18 PM
We should bet on how much this game will cost overall (not counting marketing) when it finally comes out.

Put me down for $75 million, more expensive than the aborted Shenmue saga.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: brawndolicious on January 13, 2010, 07:06:11 PM
Well it's a company of 120 people working for three years and they said that it's cost them $60 million to develop this game.  Obviously, it costs a lot of money to keep a company of that size operating so a 6 month delay is a big chunk of change.  Honestly though, shouldn't they have finished modeling the cars by now?

The most screwed up thing is that even though this game cost 50 times more to develop than the first GT game on the PS1, gamers only have to pay $10 more for it.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2010, 07:43:14 PM
 :lol at everyone saying they are adding 3d.  The game would have to be running at 120fps on PS3 to get it to 60fps 3d.
Then again it does look pretty fugly so maybe they downgraded the graphics to get gimmicky 3d?

Also Sony should kill Kaz.  He is single handledly throwing away their Q1 PS3 hardware stabilizer.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Purple Filth on January 13, 2010, 08:06:29 PM
:lol at everyone saying they are adding 3d.  The game would have to be running at 120fps on PS3 to get it to 60fps 3d.
Then again it does look pretty fugly so maybe they downgraded the graphics to get gimmicky 3d?

Also Sony should kill Kaz.  He is single handledly throwing away their Q1 PS3 hardware stabilizer.

Never since he can make a fucking demo sell over 4 million units
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2010, 08:07:25 PM
Speaking of development hell, I wonder how far along Trico is!

I always got the feeling Ueda knows what he's doing, his games just take some time.

I'm hoping we get a date at TGS this year for xmas/early next year.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Purple Filth on January 15, 2010, 07:10:23 AM
http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5s-gps-functionality-3d-confirmed/

i guess this is why the game is not coming out yet (too much extra stuff they are doing) plus it looks like 3d is confirmed
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on January 15, 2010, 07:21:43 AM
BUT I WANT TO BE BORED NOW!
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: maxy on January 15, 2010, 09:11:39 AM
Demo could not maintain steady 60 fps,with only one car on track,ps2-ish environments and no 3D.
People will need 2 PS3s,maybe that is the new strategy :lol
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bebpo on January 15, 2010, 02:07:02 PM
Sony should have fired Kaz and replaced him with one of the Sega racer guys.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bebpo on January 15, 2010, 02:11:05 PM
At this point it's Sony's fault, not PD's.

Because they are afraid to boss around the guy who gives them millions of profit when it he actually releases stuff?
It's a tough position to be in.  Kaz is a horrible employee but he brings in the profits so you don't want to scare him away to another company.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: duckman2000 on January 15, 2010, 02:11:14 PM
Drab Shit PS3 is delayed, will it come out before the release of Drab Shit 360? Stay tuned!

:piss EB :piss2
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Mupepe on January 15, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
Forza is awesome shit.  You shut your whore mouth! :-*
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: bud on January 15, 2010, 05:34:14 PM
I'm a huge Gran Turismo fan but let's be realists here; the Forza series has been consistently churning out superior games without fail. Since the release of the first Forza, Gran Turismo has been relegated to "has-been" status. I no longer see the point in paying attention to Kazunori and his embarrassing display of perfectionist irrelevance.

I believe Polyphony Digital is stuck in a quandary; no matter what they do with Gran Turismo 5 they're bested by a team that works faster and produces a superior product on a consistent schedule. The moment they bring GT5 to the level of quality of the latest Forza, the team at Turn10 cranks out yet another sequel that obliterates their hard work.

Kazunori fails to realize that releasing Gran Turismo 5 in its current state will bring the company untold millions and the fanbase will lap it up without batting an eye. Obviously it'll be an inferior product to Forza 3 but at the very least he'll show some backbone and help Sony make back all the money they've flushed down the toilet on his company. He'll lose face and will be forced to come to terms that his game and his team are no longer the kings of the genre but that's better then having his company shut down for failing to release a single game that's been in development for well over 6 years and has a cost well beyond $60 million.

but they've sold/shipped over 4 million copies already of just prologue. :smug

i'm not sure what sony gets per title, but i think they've earned back enough of that $60m already to tide them over till 5 comes out.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 17, 2010, 07:49:54 PM
Great news everyone, Kaz is starting everything again from scratch such is his genius!

he apparently had the brain wave of remodelling ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING again at super high fidelity and then downgrading the models so he doesn't have to do it all over again for when the PS4 comes out. Oh and completely rebuilding the engine... again.

This will be a further stamp on his genius 2 years from now when they are able to release GT5 in 2012 and then a tourist trophy style DLC update REALLY QUICKLY in 2016.

:bow Kaz :bow2

tsk tsk.... Sorry-phony, Gland Toolislow 5 : Real Delay Simulator.

WHAT  :lol
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 17, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
If I were Kaz I'd build all the cars out of NURBS and then tesselate them down to whatever game console hardware he deems worthy of receiving it
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 17, 2010, 08:52:54 PM
Might need to up my prediction to $85 million now.

I suspect GT5 is hardly being worked on.  It is clear that the bulk of GT PSP was developed in 2004 and 2005, for instance.  At this point, GT5 is better off being a PS4 launch title.  So should Killzone 3.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: pilonv1 on January 17, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Great news everyone, Kaz is starting everything again from scratch such is his genius!

he apparently had the brain wave of remodelling ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING again at super high fidelity and then downgrading the models so he doesn't have to do it all over again for when the PS4 comes out. Oh and completely rebuilding the engine... again.

This will be a further stamp on his genius 2 years from now when they are able to release GT5 in 2012 and then a tourist trophy style DLC update REALLY QUICKLY in 2016.

:bow Kaz :bow2

tsk tsk.... Sorry-phony, Gland Toolislow 5 : Real Delay Simulator.







you must be kidding
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 17, 2010, 09:59:53 PM
Exhibiting Duke Nukem syndrome to a T. I love how Forza keeps forcing Sony's hand in regards to their flagship racing game but in a timely manner.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 17, 2010, 10:23:53 PM
:bow DCharlie builds all his cars out of NEWBS and trolls them down to size :bow2
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: originalz on January 17, 2010, 11:54:35 PM
Maybe they're delaying the game to incorporate innovative features such as in-game rewind and the ability to share custom designs!
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: pilonv1 on January 17, 2010, 11:59:46 PM
Quote
Maybe they're delaying the game to incorporate innovative features such as in-game rewind and the ability to share custom designs!

and the most innovative feature : releasing product! :O



why release a product when you can release a "time trial" or "prologue" every 12 months and have your fans fight back with "its not a demo, the product is nearly finished"?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 18, 2010, 12:16:16 AM
I think it's pretty staggering how Sony execs have absolutely zero control over Kaz

I'M EIGHTEEN YEARS OLD, I DO WHAT I WANT
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: The Sceneman on January 18, 2010, 02:20:30 AM
The Real Cash Burning Simulator

only they arent simulating, its REAL  :o
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bebpo on January 18, 2010, 03:52:32 AM
Maybe they're delaying the game to incorporate innovative features such as in-game rewind and the ability to share custom designs!

They added rewind a while ago after playing a Grid or Forza 3 build iirc.  Which is good because rewind in racing games is awesome even if it dumbs them down a bit.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: T-Short on January 18, 2010, 05:26:51 AM
I think Kaz is just simulating that the car industry is in a slump right now. Releasing a game with that many cars at this point in time just wouldn't be realistic.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Rman on January 18, 2010, 04:26:16 PM
I love how some people are counting GT5:P and Tourist Trophy full games now.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on January 19, 2010, 01:17:51 AM
Maybe they're delaying the game to incorporate innovative features such as in-game rewind and the ability to share custom designs!

Well I don't think Forza is the first game to have rewind, and I really doubt Kazunori Yamauchi wants the online to be all about decal trading . . .

Considering Gran Turismo is Sony's biggest gaming IP, I think the last thing they want to do is rush the development and release of the title. I keep seeing people saying it's been 5 years etc, but the Ps3 turned 3 years old like 2 months ago. So GT5 comes out in the Ps3s third year on the market.

And let's not forget; While Forza 3 performed well with critics, it was a complete disappointment at retail- specifically in North America. If you were a Sony exec and you saw Forza 3s numbers, you wouldn't have any incentive to rush the release of what may very well end up being the highest selling Ps3 game this generation.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: brawndolicious on January 19, 2010, 01:25:12 AM
Yeah but a lot of the success of the past gran turismo games probably was because of the market dominance of the PS1/2.  If a hardcore gamer is comparing GT5 versus Forza3, what extra features are they getting?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: duckman2000 on January 19, 2010, 03:58:34 AM
Yeah but a lot of the success of the past gran turismo games probably was because of the market dominance of the PS1/2.  If a hardcore gamer is comparing GT5 versus Forza3, what extra features are they getting?

GT has a fanbase, god knows why. But it has one, and Prologue proves that. Some compare it to Forza I'm sure, but it has its own fanbase.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: brawndolicious on January 19, 2010, 04:57:50 AM
Yeah but a lot of the success of the past gran turismo games probably was because of the market dominance of the PS1/2.  If a hardcore gamer is comparing GT5 versus Forza3, what extra features are they getting?
GT has a fanbase, god knows why. But it has one, and Prologue proves that. Some compare it to Forza I'm sure, but it has its own fanbase.
Yeah but I'm talking about the casuals that were not waiting patiently for years to get the next gran turismo.  I don't see GT5 selling to a lot of people who aren't already fanboys.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on January 19, 2010, 11:38:18 AM
Quote
And let's not forget; While Forza 3 performed well with critics, it was a complete disappointment at retail- specifically in North America. If you were a Sony exec and you saw Forza 3s numbers, you wouldn't have any incentive to rush the release of what may very well end up being the highest selling Ps3 game this generation.

despite the 4 million units of Prologue to a relatively small user base and the fact it's established as Sony's No 1 franchise of all time, which usually propels hardware sales?

i doubt they even gave the Forza sales a second glance.

There's a TON of incentive to get this game out.

I'm not talking about general incentive to get the product out, I was talking about incentive to rush the product out.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 19, 2010, 11:40:52 AM
My question is: How the hell did GT PSP manage to come out?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on January 19, 2010, 11:46:32 AM
Yeah but a lot of the success of the past gran turismo games probably was because of the market dominance of the PS1/2.  If a hardcore gamer is comparing GT5 versus Forza3, what extra features are they getting?

But going by that logic then Forza 3 should have at least cleared 300,000 in its first month of release.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: duckman2000 on January 19, 2010, 11:46:35 AM
Yeah but a lot of the success of the past gran turismo games probably was because of the market dominance of the PS1/2.  If a hardcore gamer is comparing GT5 versus Forza3, what extra features are they getting?
GT has a fanbase, god knows why. But it has one, and Prologue proves that. Some compare it to Forza I'm sure, but it has its own fanbase.
Yeah but I'm talking about the casuals that were not waiting patiently for years to get the next gran turismo.  I don't see GT5 selling to a lot of people who aren't already fanboys.

The fanbase is filled with "casuals." It's not a new or niche franchise. I don't know if they are waiting for the game in the sense that they just plain avoid other games in the meantime (who does that?), but they will buy the game whenever it comes out.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 19, 2010, 11:48:34 AM
Gran Turismo 5 90% “done” says Yamauchi (http://videogamesrepublic.com/?p=13324)

90% done-even if that's true that's bad news, anyone who has ever worked on anything knows the last 10% of something takes the longest.

End of 2010 Japan/2011 US, bet on it.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Purple Filth on January 19, 2010, 03:40:32 PM
Gran Turismo 5 90% “done” says Yamauchi (http://videogamesrepublic.com/?p=13324)

90% done-even if that's true that's bad news, anyone who has ever worked on anything knows the last 10% of something takes the longest.

End of 2010 Japan/2011 US, bet on it.

isn't that where the polishing takes place? if so then it could take awhile (especially with the features they seem to add every time  :lol)
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: naff on January 20, 2010, 02:33:26 AM
If I were a Sony exec no doubt I'd delay that shit, implement 3D and wait till my new line of 3D Tvs come out later in 2010. A package with a PS3, GT5 and a 3DTV + shutter glasses will have a lot of guys running to the nearest Sony Style store.

This is totally ridiculous as a consumer though, but from Sonys perspective milking the fanbase with pay for demos while you make the killer app is a pretty amazing business model. Especially when the demo sells more than your competitors fully fledged games. Forza 3 is great but the brand recognition just isn't the same.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 20, 2010, 04:53:34 PM
I can see 3D being worked into this, not from the ground up (obviously) but maybe some basic stuff like Nvidia has been doing with preexisting games. Some sense of depth would be awesome.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 20, 2010, 05:05:57 PM
:o

Racing games will definitely benefit from this the most
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: pilonv1 on January 20, 2010, 09:26:14 PM
Quote
Microsoft's Phil Spencer has taken a cheeky pop at the repeated delays to the release of PS3 exclusive Gran Turismo 5.

As you'd expect, the Microsoft Game Studios boss is a big fan of Xbox 360's rival racing series. "I think Forza continues to define the racing genre," he told Eurogamer earlier this week.

"Especially from first-parties, given that it seems to be the only one that's shipped."

Cold blooded
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: brawndolicious on January 20, 2010, 09:32:42 PM
:lol

wasn't there some PS3 F1 game though?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: duckman2000 on January 20, 2010, 09:34:27 PM
Microsoft can start acting cocky when it matches its own Xbox 1 output. Seriously, fuck racing games this generation.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: pilonv1 on January 20, 2010, 09:42:23 PM
:lol

wasn't there some PS3 F1 game though?

yes but it wasn't very good. it looked pretty nice for a launch game though
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: naff on May 26, 2010, 10:09:36 AM
Latest excuse for no next-gen GT. They're implementing Move compatibility   (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39126/Gran-Turismo-5-supports-Move-3D)
 :-X :yuck

spoiler (click to show/hide)
$$$ Sony Air Wheels $$$
:miyamoto
[close]

Yamauchi's incessant need to adorn his monster with every bell and whistle he possibly can is getting out of control.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Third on May 26, 2010, 10:16:50 AM
Who needs the G25 wheel when you got Move?  8)
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 26, 2010, 11:16:13 AM
I love the fact that some people's egos are so huge that they cannot be possibly held to any deadline.

YAMAUCHI-SAN IS ABOUT TO MAKE YOU HIS BITCH.

SUCK IT DOWN(tm)
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: magus on May 26, 2010, 11:41:27 AM
next excuse
PS4 get announced
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on May 26, 2010, 12:42:41 PM
I think it's pretty obvious that GT5 was delayed so that 3D and Move could be implemented.

I don't really care about either in GT5, so hopefully the game won't offer a competitive advantage to users with a Move controller and a 3D set...

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 26, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
I think it's pretty obvious that GT5 was delayed so that 3D and Move could be implemented.

I don't really care about either in GT5, so hopefully the game won't offer a competitive advantage to users with a Move controller and a 3D set...



Move and 3D TVs will take your game into the next level
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2010, 07:32:40 PM
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247p1.html

this game features 1000 cars*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*800 of them are from the PS2
[close]
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: brawndolicious on June 17, 2010, 07:37:03 PM
That's less "HD" cars than Forza 3, which was made in like 2 years.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 07:39:28 PM
I don't even wanna touch on how embarrassing that is.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: brob on June 17, 2010, 07:45:24 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: pilonv1 on June 17, 2010, 07:46:27 PM
That road looks like it's missing a texture or two
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 17, 2010, 07:49:01 PM
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247p1.html

this game features 1000 cars*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*800 of them are from the PS2
[close]


Wait WHAT
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2010, 07:49:58 PM
:rofl

So what the fuck has taken so long?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 17, 2010, 07:52:49 PM
:rofl

So what the fuck has taken so long?

3D!

Kaz mentioned it in the same breadth with GT5
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Jansen on June 17, 2010, 07:53:48 PM
http://cdn2.gran-turismo.com/jp/common/data2/movie/20100616_e3/gt5_standardcars.mov

looks like SHIT.

the cars, the tracks, all of it.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 07:53:59 PM
I sure am glad i didn't buy a slim.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2010, 07:54:36 PM
the best part is that you have things like head tracking, 3D, Move support, backseats modeled, the crazy day/night cycle (http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_gran_turismo_5_e3_hq_rally-15946_en.html) but then you have 80% of the cars from the PS2.

It's like they just gave up and threw in a bunch of old material to ship it in time, which is already years late.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 17, 2010, 08:00:44 PM
I am kind of stunned that they are just saying fuckit and dumping PS2 assets in there.

I know the secret, and so does Turn 10

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Outsource your car modeling to India
[close]

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 08:04:43 PM
Too bad this game will sell more than any Xbox 360 exclusive combined worldwide and will be amazing.  :-[
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 08:07:21 PM
Oh and only sony is nice enough to give their fans a free remake of GT1,2,3,4 with GT5.

Thank you Sony  :-[
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 08:08:01 PM
The thing here is these guys barely worked.

The shit you are going to see in the final game could've been done in 2 years, but these assholes didn't work. Why did Prologue came out? Because their time wasting needed something in return.

I pop in the gamespot interview, and this motherfucker is telling me how they get invited everywhere, and then you see videos and it's the game creator and devs just doing anything related to racing besides working on the game.

Have you seen the rally video? Of course the PS3 fanboys get an hard on for the night to day transition, but all i could see was the cars being handled like cardboard boxes, and bouncing around from red tape and shit.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 08:11:51 PM
The thing here is these guys barely worked.

The shit you are going to see in the final game could've been done in 2 years, but these assholes didn't work. Why did Prologue came out? Because their time wasting needed something in return.

I pop in the gamespot interview, and this motherfucker is telling me how they get invited everywhere, and then you see videos and it's the game creator and devs just doing anything related to racing besides working on the game.

Have you seen the rally video? Of course the PS3 fanboys get an hard on for the night to day transition, but all i could see was the cars being handled like cardboard boxes, and bouncing around from red tape and shit.

When you see the premium cars you will understand the work. Unlike the Forza and Xbox which couldn't handle all this detail, the team at Polyphony Digital went to extremes to make sure every car was 100% modelled down to the nuts and bolts.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 08:12:46 PM
People are acting like they're actual shareholders in Polyphon and Sony and are complainging about it taking so long, but in the end it will review better than any xbox 360 racing game and will sell more than all PS3 and xbxo 360 exclusives combined worldwide.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: pilonv1 on June 17, 2010, 08:13:29 PM
I am kind of stunned that they are just saying fuckit and dumping PS2 assets in there.

Wait this is what they're doing??
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 08:16:06 PM
No, he's wrong. It's just the PS2 wireframe. The models are updated and look amazing, better than Forza 2, not Forza 3 level but pretty close. It still looks great.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 08:19:25 PM
 :bow Sony :bow2


Always thinking about their fans first. Giving them free content to an already great and content packed game.

Thank you Sony.  :'(
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 08:19:49 PM
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247p1.html

this game features 1000 cars*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*800 of them are from the PS2
[close]


Disappointing, 5 years should have led to much more than 200 'fresh' cars.

Still a day 1 purchase though.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 08:21:43 PM
No, he's wrong. It's just the PS2 wireframe. The models are updated and look amazing, better than Forza 2, not Forza 3 level but pretty close. It still looks great.

I don't think it's the same wireframe  :D
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 08:24:22 PM
The thing here is these guys barely worked.

The shit you are going to see in the final game could've been done in 2 years, but these assholes didn't work. Why did Prologue came out? Because their time wasting needed something in return.

I pop in the gamespot interview, and this motherfucker is telling me how they get invited everywhere, and then you see videos and it's the game creator and devs just doing anything related to racing besides working on the game.

Have you seen the rally video? Of course the PS3 fanboys get an hard on for the night to day transition, but all i could see was the cars being handled like cardboard boxes, and bouncing around from red tape and shit.

Umad?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 17, 2010, 08:25:58 PM
I'm so confused, I thought a wireframe was a model
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on June 17, 2010, 08:26:29 PM
GRAN TURISM..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on June 17, 2010, 08:27:41 PM
People are acting like they're actual shareholders in Polyphon and Sony and are complainging about it taking so long, but in the end it will review better than any xbox 360 racing game and will sell more than all PS3 and xbxo 360 exclusives combined worldwide.

You're sounding exactly like an Nfag.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 08:29:31 PM
The thing here is these guys barely worked.

The shit you are going to see in the final game could've been done in 2 years, but these assholes didn't work. Why did Prologue came out? Because their time wasting needed something in return.

I pop in the gamespot interview, and this motherfucker is telling me how they get invited everywhere, and then you see videos and it's the game creator and devs just doing anything related to racing besides working on the game.

Have you seen the rally video? Of course the PS3 fanboys get an hard on for the night to day transition, but all i could see was the cars being handled like cardboard boxes, and bouncing around from red tape and shit.

Umad?

Dissapointed, spent like more hours than i can count playing GT2 and GT3, GT4 for me was disappointing. 5 years later, Gt5 is GT4 hd, the game seems to still have the same pinball physics going on.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Robo on June 17, 2010, 08:30:12 PM
People are acting like they're actual shareholders in Polyphon and Sony and are complainging about it taking so long, but in the end it will review better than any xbox 360 racing game and will sell more than all PS3 and xbxo 360 exclusives combined worldwide.

You're sounding exactly like an Nfag.

That's his shtick.  Just leave it be.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: naff on June 17, 2010, 08:32:20 PM
Barely worked Wrika? Wtf you crazy. Read Eurogamer or others impressions, it's a little sad to hear there isn't amazing cockpit views for every car but I think more importantly they focused on different game modes, Rally, F1, Nascar and regular ol GT. I love me some Forza but from what I've seen and heard this game is going to blow it out of the water.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: brawndolicious on June 17, 2010, 08:33:49 PM
I'm so confused, I thought a wireframe was a model
Whatever they are, the cars in that video Jansen linked look like crap.  The worst thing is that GT4 had multiples of every single regular car.  There's like 5 civics and half a dozen evo VII's so you're getting a lot of repainted crap.  At least put that shit on a separate disk and call it the GT Pedigree Collection or some bullshit.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 08:34:55 PM
Barely worked Wrika? Wtf you crazy. Read Eurogamer or others impressions, it's a little sad to hear there isn't amazing cockpit views for every car but I think more importantly they focused on different game modes, Rally, F1, Nascar and regular ol GT. I love me some Forza but from what I've seen and heard this game is going to blow it out of the water.

Have you seen the rally bits?

They fucking suck.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 08:35:50 PM
Barely worked Wrika? Wtf you crazy. Read Eurogamer or others impressions, it's a little sad to hear there isn't amazing cockpit views for every car but I think more importantly they focused on different game modes, Rally, F1, Nascar and regular ol GT. I love me some Forza but from what I've seen and heard this game is going to blow it out of the water.

Have you seen the rally bits?

They fucking suck.

I'm so glad you're juding a game based on you never touching it.

Halo:Reach is a shit stain game! Shitty shit shit game!
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Diunx on June 17, 2010, 08:40:58 PM
Not a fan of racer sims but I have to say that this is a pretty shitty thing to do, all those years just to give "GT HD: 800 cars edition" to the fans.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 08:41:41 PM
Apparently, only 20 tracks?

edit; scratch that, 20 locations.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: brawndolicious on June 17, 2010, 08:42:40 PM
It'll look hella odd driving a highly detailed Ferrari right next to a low-res Saleen.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: naff on June 17, 2010, 08:46:52 PM
Barely worked Wrika? Wtf you crazy. Read Eurogamer or others impressions, it's a little sad to hear there isn't amazing cockpit views for every car but I think more importantly they focused on different game modes, Rally, F1, Nascar and regular ol GT. I love me some Forza but from what I've seen and heard this game is going to blow it out of the water.

Have you seen the rally bits?

They fucking suck.
???

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1OZCwRGFUA[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yM3gXnGIgE[/youtube]

Apart from the piece of shit driver looks great to me.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
What looks great to you?

The shitty track, the bouncing of nets, or the fact that the car seems to control nothing like a rally car?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 08:52:54 PM
The thing here is these guys barely worked.

The shit you are going to see in the final game could've been done in 2 years, but these assholes didn't work. Why did Prologue came out? Because their time wasting needed something in return.

I pop in the gamespot interview, and this motherfucker is telling me how they get invited everywhere, and then you see videos and it's the game creator and devs just doing anything related to racing besides working on the game.

Have you seen the rally video? Of course the PS3 fanboys get an hard on for the night to day transition, but all i could see was the cars being handled like cardboard boxes, and bouncing around from red tape and shit.

Umad?

Dissapointed, spent like more hours than i can count playing GT2 and GT3, GT4 for me was disappointing. 5 years later, Gt5 is GT4 hd, the game seems to still have the same pinball physics going on.



First bold: No, it's not.

Second bold: I was never a huge fan of GTs physics (I simply tolerated them), but based on the GT Academy demo, I can say without a single doubt that you're completely wrong.

At this point, I'm more concerned about the number of tracks/locations than the graphical fidelity of the 'standard' cars. If the 20 courses aren't great to drive on, then they better be working on some DLC.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 08:54:39 PM
What looks great to you?

The shitty track, the bouncing of nets, or the fact that the car seems to control nothing like a rally car?

Since you're an expert on how Rally cars should control in a videogame, I expect your next post to detail exactly what they need to fix.

Don't disappoint me  :D
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 08:56:26 PM
Barely worked Wrika? Wtf you crazy. Read Eurogamer or others impressions, it's a little sad to hear there isn't amazing cockpit views for every car but I think more importantly they focused on different game modes, Rally, F1, Nascar and regular ol GT. I love me some Forza but from what I've seen and heard this game is going to blow it out of the water.

Have you seen the rally bits?

They fucking suck.

I'm so glad you're juding a game based on you never touching it.

Halo:Reach is a shit stain game! Shitty shit shit game!

Come on now, give him a break...

...It's the first 720p Halo fps  :lol
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: naff on June 17, 2010, 08:57:03 PM
What looks great to you?

The shitty track, the bouncing of nets, or the fact that the car seems to control nothing like a rally car?

I couldn't take much away about the physics or handling from that vid, the driver was simply too bad. Sounds like you've played more GT than me so you can probably derive more from it. Ima just wait and see but I'm def optimistic.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 09:03:40 PM
I couldn't take much away about the physics or handling from that vid, the driver was simply too bad. Sounds like you've played more GT than me so you can probably derive more from it. Ima just wait and see but I'm def optimistic.

(just to give a little insight)

I finished GT3, and got done with about 80-85% of GT4.

Based off of the latest GT5 demo, the physics in 5 are in a different galaxy than the physics in 3 and 4.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 09:08:30 PM
What looks great to you?

The shitty track, the bouncing of nets, or the fact that the car seems to control nothing like a rally car?

Since you're an expert on how Rally cars should control in a videogame, I expect your next post to detail exactly what they need to fix.

Don't disappoint me  :D

They shouldn't look like they are made of carboard, visually the car looks like it's sliding through the road, they are also much more agile than what GT5 seems to think they are as they in the video at least look as if they just transfered the standard driving model into it and put it on a rally track. Drifting is a big part of rally, and here just like in previous GT, everytime you enter a curve the car behaves nothing like it should.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:27:05 PM
realistic damage model or GTFO
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 09:27:29 PM
What looks great to you?

The shitty track, the bouncing of nets, or the fact that the car seems to control nothing like a rally car?

Since you're an expert on how Rally cars should control in a videogame, I expect your next post to detail exactly what they need to fix.

Don't disappoint me  :D

They shouldn't look like they are made of carboard, visually the car looks like it's sliding through the road, they are also much more agile than what GT5 seems to think they are as they in the video at least look as if they just transfered the standard driving model into it and put it on a rally track. Drifting is a big part of rally, and here just like in previous GT, everytime you enter a curve the car behaves nothing like it should.

You're talking about how the cars look VS how they feel.

I've yet to try out the rally mode in GT5, but based off of the same video that you're looking at, it looks like the problem lies within the person playing the demo rather than the demo itself.

But the night is still young so please jump to more conclusions  :sonic
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:35:22 PM
TripleA, GT is not realistic in any mode.  I know for a fact that a Carrera doesn't slide off the road with right angle turns at just 60 mph. 
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 09:40:07 PM
TripleA, GT is not realistic in any mode.  I know for a fact that a Carrera doesn't slide off the road with right angle turns at just 60 mph. 

Clearly you don't know how to play GT and should shut the fuck up and go back to your childs play games like Burnout and Forza.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:42:56 PM
Clearly you've never driven a car, dimwit.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 17, 2010, 09:48:10 PM
Oh so all black people don't know how to drive? What's next, we crash because we're too engulfed in our watermelon that's places conveniently ontop of the steering wheel?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 17, 2010, 09:49:46 PM
You're black just because of your idiocy?  How racist is that?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
TripleA, GT is not realistic in any mode.  I know for a fact that a Carrera doesn't slide off the road with right angle turns at just 60 mph. 

I never said GT physics were 1:1 with real life physics.

What I said was the physics in GT5 are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different than the physics in GT4.

Realism in games is often measured by graphics and controls. On November 2nd, we find out exactly how real GT5 is.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: pilonv1 on June 17, 2010, 09:53:05 PM
shit/bin this
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bildi on June 18, 2010, 02:53:25 AM
Wait, wait, wait, what is this about PS2 models?  Must travel back through thread.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Trent Dole on June 18, 2010, 02:57:03 AM
Wait, wait, wait, what is this about PS2 models?  Must travel back through thread.
800 of the 1000 cars are just upscales of PS2/PSP assets.  :dur
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: ManaByte on June 18, 2010, 03:03:12 AM
Upscaling 80% of the cars was the only way to get the game out before 2020.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bildi on June 18, 2010, 03:05:21 AM
This really is turning into a complete farce.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 03:09:40 AM
Yeah, I just looked at the info on pg.3 and it's a total disaster.  It's gonna be hard even for dark1x to spin this. 
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2010, 03:18:02 AM
What do you want to bet they slowly trickle out upgrades to the gimpmobiles, for $$$.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 03:22:27 AM
Sony even has a 10 year plan for Gran Turismo?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bildi on June 18, 2010, 03:22:28 AM
To the total layperson (me) it seems like a team of public servants could get things happening quicker than this.  WTF goes on in Polyphony?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2010, 03:32:14 AM
To the total layperson (me) it seems like a team of public servants could get things happening quicker than this.  WTF goes on in Polyphony?

It's this simple: As long as they insist on doing it all in Japan, and Kaz creams off most of the cash, it's going to take forever. They could hire a few hundred extra staff, but they won't do that because they want the money. They are too proud to outsouce the modelling on the cheap though, which is how Turn 10 etc does it.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 18, 2010, 03:37:35 AM
I think pride is exactly why the majority of the Japanese development community is completely irrelevant this generation.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2010, 03:40:46 AM
The majority of the Japanese dev. community outsource all kinds of shit, including entire games.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2010, 03:43:17 AM
Well, he's planning on playing it DC - the self-annihilation is already on the books.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2010, 03:47:55 AM
Hmm

 :rofl



Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 18, 2010, 03:50:16 AM
The majority of the Japanese dev. community outsource all kinds of shit, including entire games.

Like Bionic Commando and DR2?

Because Capcom made an interesting comment recently...
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2010, 04:02:13 AM
Not just to western devs...lots of games that are listed as Square-Enix developed (say) are actually done entirely by other firms who are only credited in the small print. Many other games outsource art assets etc too.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: T-Short on June 18, 2010, 04:13:35 AM
hehe congrats doods. the worst thread on EB
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 04:23:16 AM
Owners of PS3s with no backward compatibility are going to be so pissed when they buy this. 
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 18, 2010, 11:02:18 AM
How can you blame Sony really? You know how many people they'd probably have to add to get those other 800 cars to the same level? I'm surprised we're getting as much as we are for $60. And I love to harp on companies, demanding more from them. Even I can push my differences aside and say "whew, I get to play the game this year, not in 2019".

I mean, we're getting 1000+ cars, tons of tracks, two racing licenses, crazy photo modes, and who knows what else is stuffed in there.

This game is one of the few times I ever felt I'm getting my money, if not, more than my money's worth out of.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 18, 2010, 11:04:19 AM
Not just to western devs...lots of games that are listed as Square-Enix developed (say) are actually done entirely by other firms who are only credited in the small print. Many other games outsource art assets etc too.

Oh ok, cool.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: archie4208 on June 18, 2010, 11:05:08 AM
I'm glad premium cars are super cars and cars that you will NEVER get to drive in your life. I wanna experience how these car drive, how the interior looks, etc etc. If I needed to see them do 200 interiors of Honda and Toyota, I'll just go to a car dealer and see them for myself.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 18, 2010, 11:10:43 AM
Owners of PS3s with no backward compatibility are going to be so pissed when they buy this. 

Invisible cars! that all handle like Ford Fiestas
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2010, 01:01:15 PM
Quote
There are obvious advantages to ambiguous PR: the ability to string along TripleA fanboys with hopeful semantics and powerful FUD against the competition.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Third on June 22, 2010, 08:25:28 AM
HOLY SHIT...GO-KARTING CONFIRMED IN GOD TURISMO 5!!
Also and option to create and share tracks.


Quote
Gran Turismo 5 will offer gamers an experience more rich, more in-depth and more exciting than they might expect - even from a series as closely identified with innovation and invention as Gran Turismo. Not only will Gran Turismo 5 deliver an even more comprehensive set of cars and courses than gamers saw with previous iterations, it will also feature new game-enhacing graphical effects such as damage, night racing and weather.

These innovations are twinned with the option to join millions of like-minded individuals globally within the Gran Turismo community and to find a driving experience to suit, whether that is taking on the Top Gear test track, chucking cars around stunt arenas, go-karting, creating and sharing your own track or intense head-to-head races. Who, where and what to drive is completely down to the individual.

This time around Gran Turismo is likely not just to be the definitive driving experience but a definitive gaming experience full stop.

http://uk.playstation.com/ps3/news/articles/detail/item285382/Talking-games-with-Shuhei-Yoshida/

Turd 10 should just stop making Forza games right now. It's over.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: archie4208 on June 22, 2010, 08:41:06 AM
Glad to see Polyphony catch up to 2003 PC games in features set. :o
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: bud on June 22, 2010, 08:51:41 AM
nurburgring + day/night cycle + rain while listening to
[youtube=560,345]hMXaE9NtQgg[/youtube]

is going to be so awesome :-[
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Mupepe on June 22, 2010, 10:44:49 AM
I can't wait :-[
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 12:10:02 PM

Turd 10 should just stop making Forza games right now. It's over.

Actually, given the horrendous sales performance of both Forza 2 and Forza 3, I wouldn't be surprised if Forza 4 was their last outing.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MCD on June 22, 2010, 12:13:46 PM
Quote
This time around Gran Turismo is likely not just to be the definitive driving experience but a definitive gaming experience full derp.

 :derp
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2010, 12:29:29 PM

Turd 10 should just stop making Forza games right now. It's over.

Actually, given the horrendous sales performance of both Forza 2 and Forza 3, I wouldn't be surprised if Forza 4 was their last outing.

Forza 2 is about 4 million sold and Forza 3 is between 3.5-4 million.

And before you mention bundles,that is how GT sells in Europe...and that is one of the reasons why you see 5:1 ratios between EU an US
Second one is that racing was(is) popular in EU much more than in US.

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Beezy on June 22, 2010, 01:27:26 PM
So this game is actually coming out this time? I'm tired of hearing about it.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MCD on June 22, 2010, 01:46:17 PM
So this game is actually coming out this time? I'm tired of hearing about it.
i'm tired of trolling it.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2010, 01:50:21 PM
This forum was better without maxy & Third.

smh
Are you are trying to say that I'm not right,pcfag*?



/you are not that
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Beezy on June 22, 2010, 01:50:48 PM
So this game is actually coming out this time? I'm tired of hearing about it.
i'm tired of trolling it.
You must be really dedicated to troll a single game for 5-6 years.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: MCD on June 22, 2010, 01:55:09 PM
oh it wasn't that bad

game trolled itself anyway :smug
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 02:45:22 PM

Turd 10 should just stop making Forza games right now. It's over.

Actually, given the horrendous sales performance of both Forza 2 and Forza 3, I wouldn't be surprised if Forza 4 was their last outing.

Forza 2 is about 4 million sold and Forza 3 is between 3.5-4 million.

And before you mention bundles,that is how GT sells in Europe
...and that is one of the reasons why you see 5:1 ratios between EU an US
Second one is that racing was(is) popular in EU much more than in US.



Keep telling yourself that buddy, because the NPD and Chart-track contradict everything you say  :lol

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 03:21:20 PM

Turd 10 should just stop making Forza games right now. It's over.

Actually, given the horrendous sales performance of both Forza 2 and Forza 3, I wouldn't be surprised if Forza 4 was their last outing.

Yeah, Microsoft will totally give up their car studio that remains profitable.

Didn't stop them from closing their other "profitable" studios.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 03:31:21 PM
Very likely.

If they confirm it will have premium cars as DLC then it's a day 1 purchase.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2010, 03:35:57 PM

Turd 10 should just stop making Forza games right now. It's over.

Actually, given the horrendous sales performance of both Forza 2 and Forza 3, I wouldn't be surprised if Forza 4 was their last outing.

Forza 2 is about 4 million sold and Forza 3 is between 3.5-4 million.

And before you mention bundles,that is how GT sells in Europe
...and that is one of the reasons why you see 5:1 ratios between EU an US
Second one is that racing was(is) popular in EU much more than in US.



Keep telling yourself that buddy, because the NPD and Chart-track contradict everything you say  :lol



Actually they don't...Chart Track UK data has Forza 3 at 600k in March...check their awards,I don't think that any PS3 game except COD and GTA is even close to that.

That is the only "real" number that you can get from EU...The rest is just like in any other game,shipped units...sold for them,PR thing
But if you can give us full EU GFK data,please do...

Stop reading VG charts
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 04:00:44 PM

Turd 10 should just stop making Forza games right now. It's over.

Actually, given the horrendous sales performance of both Forza 2 and Forza 3, I wouldn't be surprised if Forza 4 was their last outing.

Forza 2 is about 4 million sold and Forza 3 is between 3.5-4 million.

And before you mention bundles,that is how GT sells in Europe
...and that is one of the reasons why you see 5:1 ratios between EU an US
Second one is that racing was(is) popular in EU much more than in US.



Keep telling yourself that buddy, because the NPD and Chart-track contradict everything you say  :lol



Actually they don't...Chart Track UK data has Forza 3 at 600k in March...check their awards,I don't think that any PS3 game except COD and GTA is even close to that.

That is the only "real" number that you can get from EU...The rest is just like in any other game,shipped units...sold for them,PR thing
But if you can give us full EU GFK data,please do...

Stop reading VG charts


Actually they do. Your claim was Forza 3 has sold between 3.5 to 4 million, correct?

Your numbers for Forza 3 UK are 600k as of March, correct?

Forza 3 has yet to sell a million in the North America region. Forza 3 has failed to chart in other EU regions for a long long while, in fact, the only region where the game has sold more than 300k is indeed the UK.

Stop believing Che Chou's numbers, they're bad for your image  :lol

Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 04:04:42 PM

Turd 10 should just stop making Forza games right now. It's over.

Actually, given the horrendous sales performance of both Forza 2 and Forza 3, I wouldn't be surprised if Forza 4 was their last outing.

Yeah, Microsoft will totally give up their car studio that remains profitable.

Didn't stop them from closing their other "profitable" studios.

Ensemble is the only studio you could really make that argument for but since Microsoft doesn't give a shit about PC gaming anymore and Ensemble is an RTS studio, it was only a matter of time before they got the boot. Forza and Turn 10 has much more longevity in this market, even if you don't realize that.

Quote from: Microsoft
In terms of revenue, Windows is far and away the largest gaming platform in the world, so it's an incredibly important part of Microsoft's business

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/microsoft-document-insists-pc-gaming-is-still-important-698106 (http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/microsoft-document-insists-pc-gaming-is-still-important-698106)

What was that you were saying?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2010, 04:20:15 PM
...
You know,I now really believe that you are 10 years old...

And obviously this GT stuff is hurting you badly.

But don't worry Kevin Butler will come to your room tonight,Kirby and Banjo too

Be excited...he will bring big glowing thing that you have been dreaming about
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 04:22:36 PM
...
You know,I now really believe that you are 10 years old...

And obviously this GT stuff is hurting you badly.

But don't worry Kevin Butler will come to your room tonight,Kirby and Banjo too

Be excited...he will bring big glowing thing that you have been dreaming about


yea, umad.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 04:26:01 PM
So they made a statement that's completely true.

What you meant to say was they made a statement that completely contradicts your previous comment.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
I didn't know Methodis was in here  :D
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on June 22, 2010, 04:42:25 PM
Anyways, back to Gran Turismo.

I wonder if the karts will be customizable  8)
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 22, 2010, 08:27:29 PM
Go-karting was the logical endpoint of the GT automobile physics model, I suppose.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Third on August 18, 2010, 07:28:25 PM
Some new car porn:



(http://gthq.nl/images/stories/GT5/screenshots_gc/Circuito_de_Madrid_Pagani_Zonda_R.png)
(http://gthq.nl/images/stories/GT5/screenshots_gc/FERRARI_330P4_67_JAGUAR_XJ13_66_Ford_GT40markIVRaceCar_01.jpg)
(http://gthq.nl/images/stories/GT5/screenshots_gc/Salzburg_RedbullHangar7_LamborghiniMiuraP400BertonePrototype_B.png)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2jenyf9.png)
(http://gthq.nl/images/stories/GT5/screenshots_gc/WhiteBG__PDI_RACINGKART100_06.jpg)
(http://gthq.nl/images/stories/GT5/screenshots_gc/BlackBG_PDI_RACINGKART100_001.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/34h6fsh.jpg)
(http://gthq.nl/images/stories/GT5/screenshots_gc/CIrcuit_de_la_Sarthe_Ferrari_330P4_A.png)
(http://gthq.nl/images/stories/GT5/screenshots_gc/Circuit_de_la_Sarthe_Jaguar_XJ13_Race_Car.png)
(http://gthq.nl/images/stories/GT5/screenshots_gc/Circuit_de_la_Sarthe__FERRARI_330P4_67_001.jpg)

More screens:

http://gthq.nl/home/nieuws/333-nieuwe-screenshots-gran-turismo-5

+ video 

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0etgcNs2p5c[/youtube]

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Bebpo on August 18, 2010, 08:04:41 PM
The go-kart video looked awful.  Driving around in a circle...yawn.

Everything else from gamescom looked incredibly hot though.  Realtime weather changes?  Amazing.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: BlueTsunami on August 18, 2010, 09:17:40 PM
I haven't played a racing simulator since GT3. I think I may be up for this.

*buys GT5*

*Remembers that he has to memorize each track and the best lines for optimal timing that requires constant restarts*

Wrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on August 19, 2010, 12:16:53 AM
You have to be a total sucker to still buy Sony bullshots after 15 years...
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 19, 2010, 03:26:40 AM
I heard they're delaying it by another 9 months to add

spoiler (click to show/hide)
BICYCLES
[close]
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on August 19, 2010, 04:48:57 AM
that had to be worth the extra 18 months of development time it added, it just had to.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on August 19, 2010, 10:49:12 AM
Old and busted... (points to GT5)
... new hotness. (points to the REAL racing GOTY 2010)

[youtube=560,345]0OzWo23aTCA[/youtube]

:bow Criterion Games :bow2
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on August 19, 2010, 02:08:57 PM
You have to be a total sucker to still buy Sony bullshots after 15 years...

Only a sucker wouldn't know about photo mode.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Cravis on August 19, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
By the time they're ready to release this they're going to cancel it and move development to the PS4.  :lol

I was thinking I'd like to try a good racing sim and searched Amazon the other day for a cheap copy of this only to realize it hasn't been released yet. Oh well what's another 8-12 months waiting after it's release for the inevitable drop to $19.99.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: TripleA on August 19, 2010, 04:41:12 PM
By the time they're ready to release this they're going to cancel it and move development to the PS4.  :lol

I was thinking I'd like to try a good racing sim and searched Amazon the other day for a cheap copy of this only to realize it hasn't been released yet. Oh well what's another 8-12 months waiting after it's release for the inevitable drop to $19.99.

Thanks for letting us know when you're going to buy Gran Turismo 5.
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 19, 2010, 04:42:26 PM
Is Kaz capable of releasing a game inside a console's life cycle!?

What will happen with PS4!?
Title: Re: Gran Turismo Forever
Post by: chronovore on August 19, 2010, 08:03:33 PM
Sony even has a 10 year plan for Gran Turismo?

It'll be 10 years, but it's not exactly a "plan."