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Title: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 20, 2010, 02:11:40 PM: OKCupid's dating science blog has been data-mining millions of profiles to reach some really amazing conclusions about what people say vs. what people do. It's like sociological hardcore pornography.

The latest one is about the science of profile pictures (http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2010/01/20/the-4-big-myths-of-profile-pictures/), and check this fact out: the MySpace Shot is the single most effective photo type for women.

(http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/female_photo_contexts2.png)

Not only that, girls actually like it when buff guys pose without a shirt:

(http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/male_photo_contexts2.png)

Or at least young guys: the effectiveness of the “abs pic” decreases sharply with age.

(http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/abs.png)

Also, the older a woman is, the more effective it is for her to show her breasts:

(http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/women_aging3.png)

This stuff is amazing. I am getting all recursivelyenumerable up in here. Previous mind-blowing posts include Everyone Is Actually Racist Forever (http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/10/05/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/) and histograms of the best words (http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/09/14/online-dating-advice-exactly-what-to-say-in-a-first-message/) to use in a first message to get a reply.

WE ARE APPROACHING THE OMEGA POINT OF QUANTIFYING MALE-FEMALE INTERACTIONS.

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Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Eric P on January 20, 2010, 02:16:56 PM: i could have told you everyone is racist.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Fragamemnon on January 20, 2010, 02:41:22 PM: Amazing post. I never knew they had a stat/science blog going.

The racism article is especially interesting, and surprisingly reinforces a lot of the common beliefs by some racial groups in terms of what is 'available' and what's not. Fascinating.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 20, 2010, 02:46:11 PM: I also love how they use your Zodiac sign as a control group :lol

Here's a humdinger of a data point:

(http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/mofo_mysteries/Suicide-Three.png)
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 20, 2010, 02:49:16 PM: I also was kind of surprised to find that optimum first message length (http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/09/03/how-to-get-people-to-reply-to-your-messages-in-online-dating-part-i/) is 200 characters or fewer. Twitter am cry. :'(
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 20, 2010, 02:49:54 PM: I love these articles.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 20, 2010, 02:52:10 PM: (http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/clothes.png)
That's not good.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 20, 2010, 02:54:52 PM: Quote from: Malek J. Lumberjack Jr. on January 20, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
(http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/clothes.png)
That's not good.

erik: (http://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/40.html) No Shirt just keeps getting better. It defies logic.
Chet: I can't believe it's so much better than All Dressed Up.
erik: Science is not about your feelings.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 20, 2010, 02:59:39 PM: Holy shit at the part about the irrelevance of showing your face. Wow.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Yeti on January 20, 2010, 06:23:42 PM: Quote
1: be literate.

Father Mike :'(
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 20, 2010, 06:36:37 PM: What exactly is a "myspace shot"? I don't do the social networking scene
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 20, 2010, 06:38:02 PM: Quote from: Kestastrophe on January 20, 2010, 06:36:37 PM
What exactly is a "myspace shot"? I don't do the social networking scene

Google Image Search Myspace Shot :P

(self-photographed, high camera, dutch angle, sultry look)

http://www.igooh.com/notas/tene-mucho-cuidado-con-las-bellezas-que-aparecen-en-myspace/
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 20, 2010, 06:47:53 PM: Quote from: Yeti on January 20, 2010, 06:23:42 PM
Quote
1: be literate.

Father Mike :'(

I can always just post shirtless with a bunch of animals around. In fact I think I will go to the petting zoo now.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:59:07 PM: I think you need to be fit :S
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Yeti on January 20, 2010, 06:59:14 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on January 20, 2010, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 20, 2010, 06:23:42 PM
Quote
1: be literate.

Father Mike :'(

I can always just post shirtless with a bunch of animals around. In fact I think I will go to the petting zoo now.

:'(
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Yeti on January 20, 2010, 07:00:35 PM: Quote from: Yeti on January 20, 2010, 06:59:14 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on January 20, 2010, 06:47:53 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 20, 2010, 06:23:42 PM
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1: be literate.

Father Mike :'(

I can always just post shirtless with a bunch of animals around. In fact I think I will go to the petting zoo now.

:'(

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Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 20, 2010, 07:26:14 PM: lol the post is right, I just missed "pics" after "shirtless".
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 20, 2010, 07:34:06 PM: With your gut? Keep the shirt on.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2010, 07:38:28 PM: Where is the modifier for "sharp knees"
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 20, 2010, 07:42:10 PM: Photographing chubs from a higher angle is widely used photographic technique. Gotta' unmask that chin and jawline somehow :'(
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 20, 2010, 07:46:03 PM: Quote from: Malek J. Lumberjack Jr. on January 20, 2010, 07:34:06 PM
With your gut? Keep the shirt on.

I'll place animals in front of me so as to conceal the nasty bits. I think standing behind a black bear will do.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Moran on January 20, 2010, 08:01:29 PM: What exactly is 'doing something interesting'? It's weird that pictures with animals>travel photos though.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 20, 2010, 08:24:41 PM: Quote from: Moran on January 20, 2010, 08:01:29 PM
What exactly is 'doing something interesting'?

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l300/brocklandersdog/bigbear1oo.jpg)
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 20, 2010, 08:25:59 PM: :lol
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Brehvolution on January 20, 2010, 08:34:20 PM: So posting a shirtless myspace shot would get me double the women? :smug
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 20, 2010, 08:36:14 PM: no. A myspace shot would get you double the men.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Boogie on January 20, 2010, 08:57:05 PM: Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on January 20, 2010, 02:11:40 PM

Not only that, girls actually like it when buff guys pose without a shirt:

(http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/male_photo_contexts2.png)

Oh shit.

And all this time I was trying to keep my online dating photos classy. No wonder I've been crashing and burning online. :-\

TIME FOR A NEW STRATEGY, BITCHES. :rock
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Boogie on January 20, 2010, 09:00:45 PM: Quote from: Malek J. Lumberjack Jr. on January 20, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
(http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/four_myths/clothes.png)
That's not good.

exxcellent.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 20, 2010, 09:10:18 PM: Boogie riding his horse in just his mountie pants and hat
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 09:11:24 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on January 20, 2010, 09:10:18 PM
Boogie riding his horse in just his mountie pants and hat
That would work. Topless and with animals. I like the way you think.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 20, 2010, 09:11:50 PM: Look at my horse. My horse is amazing.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 20, 2010, 09:12:06 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on January 20, 2010, 09:10:18 PM
Boogie riding his horse in just his mountie pants and hat

...brandishing a no-knock warrant! :drool
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 09:14:27 PM: Quote from: CajoleJuice on January 20, 2010, 09:11:50 PM
Look at my horse. My horse is amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzYzVMcgWhg
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Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Boogie on January 20, 2010, 09:24:29 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on January 20, 2010, 09:10:18 PM
Boogie riding his horse in just his mountie pants and hat

That would, of course, work well.

However, I have security concerns about plastering my pic in uniform on my profile on a dating site. :P
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 20, 2010, 09:25:33 PM: but it would only be half-uniform!
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 09:26:19 PM: And if you were headless it'd improve your chances!
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 20, 2010, 09:28:47 PM: In before PD asks how a headless man would give a chick head and GS replies like he knows a thing or two about headless head.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Brehvolution on January 20, 2010, 09:30:38 PM: Quote from: Boogie on January 20, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on January 20, 2010, 09:10:18 PM
Boogie riding his horse in just his mountie pants and hat

That would, of course, work well.

However, I have security concerns about plastering my pic in uniform on my profile on a dating site. :P
Organize a mountie calendar.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 21, 2010, 12:29:11 PM: god I hate people.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 12:34:25 PM: (http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/mofo_mysteries/Are-Genius.png)

:wtf
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 12:37:35 PM: (http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/sweet_ass_american_trends/self_confidence_map.png)
Clearly, I need to move to somewhere warmer.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 21, 2010, 12:48:37 PM: bi people tend to think they are smarter then? what's the ??? about?
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 12:52:59 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on January 21, 2010, 12:48:37 PM
bi people tend to think they are smarter then? what's the ??? about?

:wtf
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 21, 2010, 12:59:03 PM: Quote from: Malek J. Lumberjack Jr. on January 21, 2010, 12:52:59 PM
Quote from: Father_Mike on January 21, 2010, 12:48:37 PM
bi people tend to think they are smarter then others? what's the ??? about?

:wtf
:'(

what's the :wtf about
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 01:02:54 PM: Nearly 40% of OKCupid users believe that they are geniuses. Seems :wtf worthy.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 21, 2010, 01:04:43 PM: My guess is that would be the general numbers anywhere.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 01:21:09 PM: Quote from: Father_Mike on January 21, 2010, 01:04:43 PM
My guess is that would be the general numbers anywhere.

Although many people do suffer from illusory superiority, OKCupid members seem especially susceptible to overestimating their positive attributes.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 21, 2010, 01:24:28 PM: Maybe if you were bi you'd gain some self confidence Malek.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 01:25:41 PM: I would, at the very least, double my dating pool and double my chances of scoring.

So 0 x 2 = ???
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 01:28:29 PM: Quote from: Kosma on January 21, 2010, 01:26:17 PM
Fascinating that girls dont give a fuck bout travel. I must have met some weird types then.

:wtf

Just because women don't like travel photos used for profile pics, doesn't mean they don't like to travel.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 01:36:11 PM: Quote from: Kosma on January 21, 2010, 01:31:54 PM
I guess, you'd think that be indicative of what they like though.

Here's the main problem with travel photos:

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_2yu3tFS-q34/S0o_snyKrbI/AAAAAAAABK0/UzeqAVP0BwI/IMG_8024.JPG)

You're tiny. From the photo, a woman really doesn't know whether you're attractive or you have giant acne scars.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 21, 2010, 01:42:35 PM: Quote from: Malek J. Lumberjack Jr. on January 21, 2010, 01:25:41 PM
I would, at the very least, double my dating pool and double my chances of scoring.

So 0 x 2 = ???

You're assuming that the extra confidence would come from scoring. It may come from a feeling of being different ect.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 01:58:45 PM: We're talking about travel photos in general. In most of them, people tend to try to capture the surrounding landscape, buildings, people, etc. To make sure that these things aren't obstructed, the person in the photo has got to be standing a fair bit back.

Here's an example of a girl's profile pic (first profile on my search):

(http://cdn.okcimg.com/php/load_okc_image.php/images/16/150x150/558x800/391x198/811x619/0/18131577680240274927.jpeg)
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 21, 2010, 02:00:20 PM: :lol
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Mupepe on January 21, 2010, 02:04:28 PM: Travel photos don't matter for two reasons:

Just because you have traveled somewhere doesn't mean you do so often. most people have been to at least one interesting place. Maybe you used to travel and don't anymore? Too many questions

and

The initial grab for most of these people based on the data (shirtless pics, myspace pose, etc) is sexual attraction. Traveling with someone is a relationship/couple deal. We're looking for a 'would fuck me in the backseat of my car near a catholic school while i rub his sweet abs' deal.
Title: Re: What We Need More Of Is Science: Online dating in the digital age
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 22, 2010, 02:08:29 AM: .