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Title: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 20, 2010, 06:04:01 PM
I'm tired of being broke, jobless, and restless. I would have ate a bullet by now, but I cannot afford ammo. If there is any opportunity to get paid to jump out of an aeroplane while carrying a mini-gatling gun, then by god, I guess I'll just hafta do that.


I am one-hundred percent serious as a heart attack.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Eric P on January 20, 2010, 06:05:47 PM
cool

good luck

Army or just military in general?

i ask, because if you're going to go to iraq, you may as well see if you get to do so from the comfort of a nice air conditioned navy ship

Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 20, 2010, 06:06:15 PM
Well, I know *I'd* feel safer with T234 in the army. :rock
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 20, 2010, 06:08:30 PM
i.e., you'd feel safer because he was off the streets and now Afghanistan's problem.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 20, 2010, 06:08:31 PM
This is just T's cunning plan to get into a position where he will be able to rape Jin.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 06:08:40 PM
this is pretty much the stupidest reason to join the army ever
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 20, 2010, 06:09:09 PM
i.e., you'd feel safer because he was off the streets and now Afghanistan's problem.

:shh
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 20, 2010, 06:10:39 PM
Drew, fuck you. You don't know anything. Welcome to my ignore list.

I wish to become an Airborne Ranger.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: demi on January 20, 2010, 06:11:18 PM
You gonna fuck some husky army ass?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 06:11:48 PM
and yeah join the navy, because youre going to regret joining into something like the army on such a fleeting situation like the one your in now when youre in the middle of some iraqi shithole wondering whether those kids are going to blow you up, or maybe those old guys over there, or maybe that woman in a burqa staring at you from across the street, or maybe etcetera
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 20, 2010, 06:12:18 PM
The Army isn't a good career move, and being a grunt isn't going to get you a lot of jobs in the civilian world. If you want to sign up for an infantry MOS, you might as well go with the Marines. It's harder, but there's more prestige and camaraderie among the devil dogs. I know from personal experience.

But career wise, go Air Force. And study up on the ASVAB. It's almost like a college placement exam, and the higher you score, the more options you'll have available to you.

My younger brother signed up for the Marines and he's going to Parris Island in April/May. He's excited, and all he's been doing is studying and getting his cardio up.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:13:03 PM
this is pretty much the stupidest reason to join the army ever
Patriotism is the first. At least get skill up as some technician or something while you are there.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 20, 2010, 06:13:10 PM
Good luck. :gun

My uncle was in Airborne and in Special Forces in the 1980s.  His back is fucked up from all of the parachuting.  Hopefully they've made some advancements there if you get into Airborne.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 06:13:36 PM
oh wow, the only guy trying to save your kentucky fried ass in this thread and you ignore him, wtg :retardclap
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 20, 2010, 06:16:31 PM
I do not care if I live or die. Death holds no charge in my existence.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:18:32 PM
Well you might as well just end it now.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: demi on January 20, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
I do not care if I live or die. Death holds no charge in my existence.

Can I get a nude pic? I'll give you $10
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 20, 2010, 06:20:41 PM
Well you might as well just end it now.


That's the way that I have lived my life since the day I was born.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:21:18 PM
And look where that has gotten you.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Flannel Boy on January 20, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
I do not care if I live or die.

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/altogetherandrews/_ewil.gif)
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on January 20, 2010, 06:23:37 PM
I would say don't do it, T234. You don't seem the type that would be down with someone barking orders at you all the time.

Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 20, 2010, 06:25:40 PM
I do not care if I live or die.

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/altogetherandrews/_ewil.gif)
Make this :emowillco please  :lol

Good luck Thor, you'll figure out something.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 20, 2010, 06:28:08 PM
I'm all for it.

You'll get paid; you'll learn some invaluable skills (depending on your MOS); great networking post-active duty career; and you'll have your school finances covered for the most part upon discharge (honorable).

It's a hell of a lot better than what you're doing now, which it seems is nothing.

PM me if you have any questions or want to talk about it.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 20, 2010, 06:29:10 PM
Eat a dick. No seriously, come to Kentucky and suck my dick, Fresh Prince.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:33:55 PM
Whatever. Go to the army you'll get your arse kicked good and proper.
The army loves nihilistic gun fodder such as yourself.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on January 20, 2010, 06:35:49 PM
God you're a fucking twat Fresh Prince.  ::)
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:38:37 PM
I probably made him think a little bit more.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on January 20, 2010, 06:39:30 PM
He probably thinks you're more of a cunt than ever. Congratulations?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 20, 2010, 06:39:58 PM
No you didn't.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 06:40:22 PM
why have me on ignore if youre going to respond to my posts?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:41:51 PM
Well it's your life and my opinion.  

Also if you don't like what I say, ignore me and live in your cloud.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 06:43:13 PM
t234 doesnt believe in opinions
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: brawndolicious on January 20, 2010, 06:46:17 PM
Did you graduate yet T234?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 06:46:59 PM
im keeping my policy of ignoring my ignorers, if you dont want to hear what i say then the feeling is mutual, happy trails t234
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:47:56 PM
Oh I don't know Kosma, he might get himself killed?

There are other options. Does he need money now? Does he need to support a family?  
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 20, 2010, 06:48:26 PM
Did you graduate yet T234?

Nope. And I cannot go.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: demi on January 20, 2010, 06:49:31 PM
Dont worry bro, times are hard all around. At least that's the excuse you can keep using.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: demi on January 20, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Like fighting for a cause, freedom.

lol
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:51:49 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 06:54:18 PM
Do it!
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: brawndolicious on January 20, 2010, 06:56:36 PM
So you're going into the military to pay for school?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 06:57:58 PM
So you're going into the military to pay for school?
This I can understand.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on January 20, 2010, 06:59:01 PM
Wouldn't life be shitty if you had to make sure Fresh Prince understood what you were doing?

Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: demi on January 20, 2010, 07:00:47 PM
Sorry you dont understand how noble it is to fight for freedom.

Sorry I dont want to fight in a fake war.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 07:01:12 PM
Wouldn't life be shitty if you had to make sure Fresh Prince understood what you were doing?
Oh what? Some sort of rational justification to put your life in danger?

A bunch of chicken hawks in this thread.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on January 20, 2010, 07:01:44 PM
I hope things get better for you man. But if you do join the military, best of luck and I'll appreciate your service   :american
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 07:04:30 PM
:american
This is your gratitude T234
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:05:52 PM
Haha.

Pussies scared to die.

Wah wah.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:07:48 PM
So you're going into the military to pay for school?

Totally.

 :'(
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 20, 2010, 07:07:55 PM
Haha.

Pussies scared to die.

Wah wah.

So, when are you enlisting?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Diunx on January 20, 2010, 07:09:40 PM
Sorry you dont understand how noble it is to fight for freedom.

lol are you fucking serious?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:09:58 PM
I may, I may not. Wholly depends on my job situation.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 07:12:09 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: demi on January 20, 2010, 07:13:09 PM
I may, I may not. Wholly depends on my job situation.

Then shut the fuck up tubs, jesus.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:13:41 PM
I may, I may not. Wholly depends on my job situation.

Then shut the fuck up tubs, jesus.

I'm not the one telling a guy not to join the military because I'm a coward.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 07:17:44 PM
So what's braver himu? Living your life with some adolescent death wish with no attachments with or living your life as a responsible member of society in 'the real world' where others depend on you?
 
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: BamYouHaveAids on January 20, 2010, 07:18:25 PM
Haha.

Pussies scared to die.

Wah wah.
i find most people not afraid to die have never been in a position where there was a serious chance of them dying
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: demi on January 20, 2010, 07:19:27 PM
I may, I may not. Wholly depends on my job situation.

Then shut the fuck up tubs, jesus.

I'm not the one telling a guy not to join the military because I'm a coward.

I never said he shouldnt join the military :lol
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: brawndolicious on January 20, 2010, 07:19:29 PM
If you want to make a long career, then it's understandable to have no problems dedicating yourself to that lifestyle.  But it is a bit extreme to give yourself a one month deadline, at the end of which you'll have to be a grunt doing dangerous work in a foreign country/culture on the other side of the planet.

There's some good reasons to join the military but there's usually no reason to have to decide so suddenly.  If he needs the money for school and he can't find any decent job in this economy, then more power to him if he plans to eventually get honorably discharged into a university.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 07:20:10 PM
I find most people who are not afraid to die feel they don't have a life worth living for.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:21:55 PM
Haha.

Pussies scared to die.

Wah wah.
i find most people not afraid to die have never been in a position where there was a serious chance of them dying

It's really not that. Of course people are scared to die, we're human. But telling someone,"DON'T JOIN THE MILITARY. YOU MAY DIE!" is stupid because they already knew that and even considered that when it became an option. Everyone is scared of death, but it's whether or not it rules your life.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 20, 2010, 07:23:45 PM
My wife's uncle spent 30 years in the Army and recently quit. Now he makes ungodly amounts of money doing private security consulting in Morocco.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 07:25:11 PM
Going by T234 ignoring drew and I- it's something he wants to ignore himu.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: brawndolicious on January 20, 2010, 07:26:29 PM
Only thing I'd like to add is that joining the military just to pay for school is a dumbfuck idea, if your hearts not in it stay out. I really hope you thought about this. Risking your life is something you should only do out of conviction for your cause.
In his age group, he's more likely to die in a car accident than by serving in Iraq.  It is a very bad idea for him to walk around Baghdad with rose petals in his helmet and a willingness to meet his maker.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 20, 2010, 07:27:19 PM
It has NOTHING to do with finances.


Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:28:22 PM
So what's braver himu? Living your life with some adolescent death wish with no attachments with or living your life as a responsible member of society in 'the real world' where others depend on you?

I'd rather have defended my country and have actual dependence on comrades than fake "real world reliance". Also, why do you keep bringing up casualties? This isn't Vietnam. There are chances you can die under today's service, but they're far more statically low. Either way, what you're telling me is what a coward would say.

Then again, as someone who is an engineer, I don't expect you to understand that. You're probably the type who chose that major purely because of the money obtained from the profession. So it makes sense to me why you wouldn't understand someone wanting to join the military when they've got no job, they're in the toilet and need a way out. Especially since the military helps pay for school, supplies room and board and an adaquete pay for college graduates.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:29:39 PM
And Demi, while you may consider the war in Iraq "fake" I think it will make the world a better place in the long run.

Putting your life at risk for tuition fees is not worth it Himuro and T234.

The chances of getting blown up on a Navy ship from pirates are 1 billion to one. Who cares.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: brawndolicious on January 20, 2010, 07:30:39 PM
It is all a sausagefest though.
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Post by: Flannel Boy on January 20, 2010, 07:32:06 PM
In his age group, he's more likely to die in a car accident than by serving in Iraq.  

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/dirk_diggler_41/eek7.gif)

(Almost everyone in his age bracket drives; very few serve in Iraq.)
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:32:15 PM
Yeah, the car accident example is somewhat accurate considering the military's current regs.

Guess I shouldn't walk down the stairs; I could die if I fall.

Guess I shouldn't drink this tap water; it could be poisoned!

Guess I shouldn't open this mail; it could have anthrax in it!

Who gives a crap? Not me!
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: brawndolicious on January 20, 2010, 07:32:57 PM
In his age group, he's more likely to die in a car accident than by serving in Iraq.  

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v219/dirk_diggler_41/eek7.gif)

(Almost everyone in his age bracket drives; very few serve in Iraq.)
The ADDED risk.  A 20 year old who serves in Iraq is less likely to die than one in the US who drives a car regularly.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:37:59 PM
That said, I do think T234 is rushing it by giving himself a deadline. Rest on it and consider it an option.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Fresh Prince on January 20, 2010, 07:40:44 PM
1. Live on your idealised notions of the army, himu. You know how the army operates how? Band of Brothers? Right. You have a very childish notion of cowardice and bravery as well.
2. But is it the only option, himu? And I'm not disagreeing about using the military to get an education.

Also himu you have contradicted yourself because it actually takes more balls to live in the 'real world' than join the army using am nintendo's stats.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:43:45 PM
Of course it's not the only option. But it's a option.

Also himu you have contradicted yourself because it actually takes more balls to live in the 'real world' than join the army using am nintendo's stats.

:lol

Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Bebpo on January 20, 2010, 07:46:13 PM
Do you have a car?

Drive people around.  Charge for rides.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: brawndolicious on January 20, 2010, 07:46:38 PM
Nobody should even think about death or patriotism or whatever bs.  That's a very small part of it.  A good reason to go in the military is to get enough discipline and money to straighten your life out.  fuck anything else.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:48:18 PM
1. Live on your idealised notions of the army, himu. You know how the army operates how? Band of Brothers? Right. You have a very childish notion of cowardice and bravery as well.

Band of Brothers is not how I envision the military. I don't even get where you got this point.

I'm not saying it's brave to join the military, but it's certainly a lot more ballsy than sitting here thinking,"I can't do that. I could die!" as you live your homely civilian life. No shit.

Nobody should even think about death or patriotism or whatever bs.  That's a very small part of it.  A good reason to go in the military is to get enough discipline and money to straighten your life out.  fuck anything else.

This too.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 07:53:01 PM
I'm not the one telling a guy not to join the military because I'm a coward.

id bet everything and anything that once youre there you wouldnt be so brave, in fact youd be scared shitless half the time, joining the military because you have a deathwish IS the stupidest reason to join the army of marines, no matter what t234 says, im sure someone who doesnt care about dying doesnt have the mental accuity to comment on this anyways
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:54:32 PM
Didn't say I have a death wish. You're merely reading into it that I have a death wish.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 07:55:44 PM
I'm not saying it's brave to join the military, but it's certainly a lot more ballsy than sitting here thinking,"I can't do that. I could die!, for a completely and utterly worthless cause, and basically give up my life for dick cheney" as you live your homely civilian life. No shit.

fixed

Didn't say I have a death wish. You're merely reading into it that I have a death wish.

i wasnt referring to you
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 07:57:56 PM
Yes, because the only reason people join the military is for a "uterrly worthless cause" and not for self improvement, or a job - especially in these economic times, or just something to do before there's another goal to cross out on his/her's list.

Your black/white view on why people join the military is why I call you a coward.

You weren't referring to me, but T234 said in this thread that he's jobless, and he's tired of it. It seems to me he feels like a loser, his life isn't going anywhere. The military could very well offer him something he's lacking. What's wrong with that? And they'd pay him for it too.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 20, 2010, 07:59:33 PM
Himu, if you want to join the armed forces, that's great. Serving our country in such a manner is an honorable thing.

However, if you're considering the armed forces just because student loan repayment still freaks you out... get over it, lots of people have student loans to pay back and manage to do just fine.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 08:00:55 PM
Of course that's not the only reason, that's stupid. Which is why it's an option; the last bullet on the list option, at that, but still an option.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 08:13:07 PM
i might have a black and white view on it because i heavily considered it this past summer (marines) and ultimately decided that it wasnt worth it, another big factor is my foot condition and the fact that id have to wear tightly laced boots and i have to take meds 3 times daily, if i were to join id inevitably lose a toe or two, or three, but that didnt weigh into my decision at the time, if you dont weigh the reason youre putting your life on the line then youre a fool, of course there are other reasons, but that one is the biggest
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Himu on January 20, 2010, 08:18:28 PM
Who doesn't weigh in that you could die when considering joining the military? Really?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 08:19:40 PM
the question is why not if, himuro
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 20, 2010, 08:19:46 PM
Nothing wrong with serving in the armed forces.  I have friends and family that are in the military in all of the branches and some like it, some hate it.  There would be some opportunities there that working a couple of jobs at once would deny you.  If my options were the military or working 2-3 jobs, I'd pick the military.

Himu, if you want to join the armed forces, that's great. Serving our country in such a manner is an honorable thing.

However, if you're considering the armed forces just because student loan repayment still freaks you out... get over it, lots of people have student loans to pay back and manage to do just fine.

Yes, I'm $80,000 in the hole in student loans.  However, those things have all kinds of bullshit trappings to make sure that if you can't find a job that your life is made as miserable as possible.  It has definitely impacted what I wanted to do with my life (money vs. passions) but whatever.  I also live like an impoverished miscreant because I put down nearly entire paychecks towards debt.  In the end, it isn't that bad and learning to live without always having to buy shit is a net positive.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 10:08:36 PM
a lot, actually, i talked to a lot of veterans and people in the marines currently before i made my decision
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Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 11:36:20 PM
 ::)
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Post by: Boogie on January 20, 2010, 11:38:51 PM

  A lot of people here are arguing about what the military is like and why people should join.  But if you're not a veteran, what the fuck do you know?

:bow
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Post by: Ganhyun on January 20, 2010, 11:50:23 PM
T234, if you are going for the Rangers, you'll go to Fort Benning GA. Having been there myself, I can say that the experience will be a good one for you if you make it that way. If you can, try to manipulate your join date to either be in the spring starting in march, or in the fall (around late september) if you can. You are looking at your 12 weeks of basic, then your additional time in AIT as well (not sure how long ranger AIT is, mine job's was 6 months). If u dont mind heat, start in spring. If u dont mind cool weather, go in the fall.

Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 11:51:15 PM
reverse double post
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Post by: drew on January 20, 2010, 11:57:45 PM
yeah, because you cant have enough of an understanding of something in order to come to a personal conclusion on it

getting drunk and talking to two marines at a camp fire for an hour and a half doesnt count, neither does shooting the proverbial shit with an ex special forces guy that was stationed in cambodia in the 70's and infiltrated enemy camps and once had to run through the jungle for 13 hours straight after a sniper mission went bad, psh
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: CrystalGemini on January 21, 2010, 01:23:53 AM
 :lol :lol :lol @ this thread

I need to get rodi in here.  :-\
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Post by: T-Short on January 21, 2010, 05:08:22 AM
thanks for the laughs, Kosma!
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Post by: demi on January 21, 2010, 06:54:02 AM
So whats stopping you Kosma? I thought you liked to travel the world? Make something of yourself... make momma proud.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: T-Short on January 21, 2010, 06:59:38 AM
::)

My officer buddy who served in Afghanistan feels pretty much the same.

But I wouldnt expect a guy who takes pictures of himself for a fashion thread to understand. Baaooss

 :lol
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: MCD on January 21, 2010, 07:12:42 AM
But I wouldnt expect a guy who takes pictures of himself for a fashion thread to understand. Baaooss

So whats stopping you Kosma? I thought you liked to travel the world? Make something of yourself... make momma proud.

:lol
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Post by: OptimoPeach on January 21, 2010, 08:10:57 AM
Only thing I'd like to add is that joining the military just to pay for school is a dumbfuck idea, if your hearts not in it stay out. I really hope you thought about this. Risking your life is something you should only do out of conviction for your cause.
:lol Fuck that shit. If I'm considering signing my life away for 4 years then I'm considering it because of the promise of compensation, not because Braveheart makes my panties wet. Bringing your starry-eyed ideals with you isn't going to make the prospect of combat any less terrifying.

Resigning yourself to a military life on a frustrated whim is a dumbfuck idea, though
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: T-Short on January 21, 2010, 09:01:08 AM
I'm not saying getting payed isnt important, it is, but it shouldnt be the main reason for such a job. Because there are many other jobs where you can get payed.

Its not about Braveheart and shit, anybody that gets swayed by tv and movies isnt fit anyway.

I think its hard to explain to people that havent had family sitting on death row in Auschwitz and having other lose their lives trying to liberate them but theres nothing funny or chilidish about this notion. So I guess for those people these notions only do exist in movies, but for others they are very much still alive.

Yes, you are right, I wish T234 well in his noble endeavour of enlisting to liberate the oppressed people of Kentucky
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Green Shinobi on January 21, 2010, 09:01:48 AM
Yes, I'm $80,000 in the hole in student loans.  However, those things have all kinds of bullshit trappings to make sure that if you can't find a job that your life is made as miserable as possible.

What kind of trappings?
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army
Post by: brawndolicious on January 21, 2010, 09:17:17 AM
Kosma, that's bullshit.  In Iraq, a soldier's job will be to help with building the infrastructure of a foreign country with a very different culture.  Their main job isn't to "go after bad guys" or anything.  You can't compare it to trying to free somebody from an execution.
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Post by: tiesto on January 21, 2010, 09:25:08 AM
i might have a black and white view on it because i heavily considered it this past summer (marines) and ultimately decided that it wasnt worth it, another big factor is my foot condition and the fact that id have to wear tightly laced boots and i have to take meds 3 times daily, if i were to join id inevitably lose a toe or two, or three, but that didnt weigh into my decision at the time, if you dont weigh the reason youre putting your life on the line then youre a fool, of course there are other reasons, but that one is the biggest

Oh yeah, how are you doing with the foot condition, drew? I remember you were in pretty serious shape last time you posted about it.
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Post by: rodi on January 21, 2010, 12:14:18 PM
It's not easy, T234. Just as long as you can take things in stride as they come, you'll be fine. No matter what job you choose, no matter what branch, it'll impact your life more than anything else that has happened or will happen. You'll ultimately be a different person coming out, and if that's something you want to risk - then go for it. It's your choice, and no one can tell you different.

[/patriotic music]
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: demi on January 21, 2010, 04:25:14 PM
Rodi tell him how many people are gay in the army
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Post by: tehjaybo on January 21, 2010, 04:57:08 PM
Thor, you know I care about you like the internet brother that you are.  And I support whatever decision you make.  Just look into everything before you do anything that you have to sign for.  You know?  Make positive that is where you want to go with your life.  You're gonna have to be clean to head that way (or at least, it would help).  You're gonna have to meet physical standards.  I know that it isn't something I could do.  I could never join the military. 

But yeah, if you're 100% on the military thing, I suggest Air Force or Navy.  My dad was in the Air Force as an engineer.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: T234 on January 21, 2010, 05:56:49 PM
I'm essentially going to talk to every veteran who I know, including a guy who has taken exactly the same path I wanna take. This person will weigh especially on my decision, because he came back a man completely torn apart. Not physically, but mentally. But I'm pretty sure he would do it again.
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Cormacaroni on January 22, 2010, 02:02:14 AM
Yes, you are right, I wish T234 well in his noble endeavour of enlisting to liberate the oppressed people of Kentucky

You never know what kind of conflict soldiers will be dropped in during his career. US soldiers are out in Haiti now helping people survive too, its not all Iraq and Afghanistan.

He may be called upon to defend Burger Town!
Title: Re: If I am still unemployed by the 17th of next month, I am gonna join the Army.
Post by: Himu on January 22, 2010, 02:05:07 AM
The battle of Burger Town and the Taco place was America's greatest moment.