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Title: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 25, 2010, 04:20:26 PM
(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/17823/1/1.jpg) (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/17823/1/2.jpg)

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Today Capcom and Nintendo announced that the Classic Controller Pro, the redesigned version of the current Classic Controller, will be bundled in North America with Monster Hunter Tri. The controller was previously only available in Japan and Europe. The game is set to launch in America sometime after April 1, 2010 but no firm launch date has been announced.

The Classic Controller Pro bundled with Monster Hunter Tri will be black, however both black and white versions will be available at retail separate from the bundle at a suggested retail price of $19.99. The Monster Hunter Tri bundle will be available for $59.99, and without the controller for $49.99.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20828

Sounds like a great deal, IMO. Looks like Nintendo and Capcom will pull all stops to get this bad boy moving in the West. The controller idea was an excellent move on the part of Nintendo to lure hardcore gamers to this franchise. For the possible exception of ExciteBots, in all instances that a Wii controller is attached to a hot new game in America, the results are WIN.

I predict this game to sell 750k in the United States alone. Far better than the game could do on a Sony or Microsoft platform, as historic sales data of previous MH games sold here in the States reveal a lukewarm reception at best.

(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/14565/1/34.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: ananus on January 25, 2010, 04:25:56 PM
looks like a ps3 controller ripoff

too bad nintendo couldn't come up with an original design for a an analog controller that doesn't require you to have 3 arms
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: cool breeze on January 25, 2010, 04:29:50 PM
The classic controller pro is great.  Best controller Nintendo has made since the SNES one.  They still managed to fuck it up by excluding rumble, requiring it to be plugged into the Wii remote, and removing analog shoulder buttons, which is confusing since Wii games that support the classic controller use the Gamecube/original CC shoulder buttons as two buttons (half press and full press).
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 25, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
looks like a ps3 controller ripoff

too bad nintendo couldn't come up with an original design for a an analog controller that doesn't require you to have 3 arms

http://xspblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sock-masters-video-game-controller-family-tree_1229492556062.png
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: cool breeze on January 25, 2010, 04:41:42 PM
Sony (pre-PS3) :bow2

So innovative with the dual analog sticks


Microsoft :bow2

Managed to build a better controller with the work Sony had done


Nintendo, Sega :piss2

Never got it right.  At least Sega built the best non-analog controller for the Saturn.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 25, 2010, 04:46:26 PM
On the real, you guys need to read up on your history before calling anything a ripoff. Nintendo created the modern day console gaming controller. Dissing them by calling their controllers a copy of this or that is like saying that Black people stole from Elvis.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 25, 2010, 04:49:13 PM
YES, THIS IS COMPLETELY ORIGINAL AND LOOKS NOTHING LIKE ANY OTHER CONTROLLER ON THE MARKET!

(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/17823/1/2.jpg)

And isn't it interesting that two franchises originally released for the PS2, Samurai Warriors and Monster Hunter, are being bundled with a controller that looks exactly like Sony's?  The Wii is the only console out there where you have to buy extra controllers just to play certain games.   :lol 

"That's the Bollywood gaming difference."
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2010, 04:50:45 PM
the N64 is the worst controller of the past 20 years

but I would like to meet the creatures it was designed for someday
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 25, 2010, 04:57:43 PM
YES, THIS IS COMPLETELY ORIGINAL AND LOOKS NOTHING LIKE ANY OTHER CONTROLLER ON THE MARKET!

(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/17823/1/2.jpg)

And isn't it interesting that two franchises originally released for the PS2, Samurai Warriors and Monster Hunter, are being bundled with a controller that looks exactly like Sony's?  The Wii is the only console out there where you have to buy extra controllers just to play certain games.   :lol 

"That's the Bollywood gaming difference."

Honestly, you have to be the dumbest fucking moderator in the history of video game forum moderators. Read up on your history and the chart I posted earlier, little bitch.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: archie4208 on January 25, 2010, 05:02:08 PM

(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/14565/1/34.jpg)

Imagine how gorgeous that would have looked on a real next gen system.  Bollywood is fucking real games over. :'(
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 25, 2010, 05:06:02 PM
Honestly, you have to be the dumbest fucking moderator in the history of video game forum moderators. Read up on your history and the chart I posted earlier, little bitch.

Okay.  Atari released the first modern controller.  Nintendo ripped off Atari!  Glad we cleared that up.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 25, 2010, 05:06:34 PM
the N64 is the worst controller of the past 20 years

but I would like to meet the creatures it was designed for someday

I dunno man, dreamcast...
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Damian79 on January 25, 2010, 05:06:45 PM
I feel kinda sad for the graphics whores this gen.  No real system seller this gen, maybe when Halo: Reach arrives.  If only someone made a great game this gen for ps360.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: cool breeze on January 25, 2010, 05:10:28 PM
the N64 is the worst controller of the past 20 years

but I would like to meet the creatures it was designed for someday

I dunno man, dreamcast...

yeah, the dreamcast controller is worse than the N64 controller.  If you ignored the analog stick, it's almost an SNES controller with grips and a much stiffer d-pad.  Dreamcast controller had bad everything.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: magus on January 25, 2010, 05:13:17 PM

(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/14565/1/34.jpg)

Imagine how gorgeous that would have looked on a real next gen system.  Bollywood is fucking real games over. :'(
if it plays anything like the psp one then it would be a boring mess on any console made so there is no real loss  :)
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 25, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Honestly, you have to be the dumbest fucking moderator in the history of video game forum moderators. Read up on your history and the chart I posted earlier, little bitch.

Okay.  Atari released the first modern controller.  Nintendo ripped off Atari!  Glad we cleared that up.

Except today's controllers look nothing like one for the 2600. The NES and SNES influence are quite evident in today's controllers, but I wouldn't expect a nincomfuckingpoop of your high caliber to admit to this painful truth.

Have fun with the Natal and Arc this year, pussy, and don't forget to send Mother Brain a thank you letter when you do.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 25, 2010, 05:24:04 PM

(http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/media/14565/1/34.jpg)

Imagine how gorgeous that would have looked on a real next gen system.  Bollywood is fucking real games over. :'(

"Imagine how Rare's games would look with real hardware and next-gen resolutions!"

Didn't help them much, now did it? Did gamers flock to buy their GORGEOUS looking games on the 360? Rofl, the once great company has been reduced to a scattered cluster of tech developers. That's what happens when you count on Hollywood gamers to buy your shit. Maybe Nintendo can re-buy them for a cool mil?
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 25, 2010, 05:24:13 PM
Honestly, you have to be the dumbest fucking moderator in the history of video game forum moderators. Read up on your history and the chart I posted earlier, little bitch.

Okay.  Atari released the first modern controller.  Nintendo ripped off Atari!  Glad we cleared that up.

Except today's controllers look nothing like one for the 2600. The NES and SNES influence are quite evident in today's controllers, but I wouldn't expect a nincomfuckingpoop of your high caliber to admit to this painful truth.

Have fun with the Natal and Arc this year, pussy, and don't forget to send Mother Brain a thank you letter when you do.

That's fantastic.  The Classic Controller Pro is a complete PS2 dual shock rip-off.  
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: magus on January 25, 2010, 05:25:43 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_stick
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Many, if not most, 1970s video game consoles featured an analog joystick, see under, the VC 4000 (1978) for more info. In 1982 Atari released the first controller with a potentiometer-based analog stick[2] for their Atari 5200 home console. However, the non-centering joystick design proved to be ungainly and unreliable, alienating many consumers at the time. During that same year, General Consumer Electronics introduced the Vectrex, a vector graphics based system which used a self-centering analog stick, obviously a precursor to the modern design.

For many years, consoles ignored analog technology, instead using the digital D-pad. It wasn't until the emergence of 3D gameplay that the analog stick was brought back for widespread use.

In 1995, Sony (realizing that analog technology could be useful) created a potentiometer-based analog joystick for use in Flight-Simulation games. The Sony Dual Analog FlightStick featured twin analog sticks and was used in games such as "Descent" to provide a much greater degree of freedom than the typical digital joysticks of the day.

In 1996 Nintendo introduced a thumb-operated control stick on their Nintendo 64 controller. While it was still a digital stick, not an analog one,[3] (one that operated on the same principles as a mechanical computer mouse), the Nintendo 64's Control stick still allowed for a great deal of varying levels of pressure and near-360-degree control, translating into far more precise movements than was possible with a D-pad. (Incidentally, the later port of Super Mario 64 to the d-pad-only Nintendo DS portable system in Super Mario 64 DS was criticized by some for imprecise control due to lack of an analog stick on the Nintendo DS.)
:teehee
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: demi on January 25, 2010, 05:30:31 PM
250k
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 25, 2010, 05:35:50 PM
250k

LTD sales? You're crazy, man. If this game doesn't sell at least 300k in its first month, I'll shut up and won't post another thread for a month.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2010, 05:37:56 PM
250k

LTD sales? You're crazy, man. If this game doesn't sell at least 300k in its first month, I'll shut up and won't post another thread for a month.

quoted, bolded, underlined

if this sells over 400k its first month I will change my avatar to the image of nintendobooger's choosing for a month
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Oblivion on January 25, 2010, 05:43:36 PM
Isn't MH3 already over a million?
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2010, 05:44:11 PM
we're talking domestic ;)

nobody tell Nintendosbooger we have "World of Warcraft" here in America. I have this one in the bag!
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Oblivion on January 25, 2010, 05:45:58 PM
Oh, whoops, nm then.

Agree it will most likely bomb.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: pilonv1 on January 25, 2010, 05:52:49 PM
So this is Capcoms admission that waggle is useless for their game? No wonder they're announcing an Xbox 360 game today.
Title: Re: Bollywood View: Dual Shock Controller to be bundled with MONSTER HUNTER TRI
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2010, 05:57:11 PM
So this is Capcoms admission that waggle is useless for their game? No wonder they're announcing an Xbox 360 game today.

Capcom is leaving the SD past behind them and entering the brilliant HD future. 8)

spoiler (click to show/hide)
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Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: pilonv1 on January 25, 2010, 06:00:39 PM
(http://img109.mytextgraphics.com/sparklee/2010/01/25/953f73f3a83241776605d21af32829bc.gif)

can we turn image sigs on? i want to use this
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Beezy on January 25, 2010, 06:14:38 PM
can we turn image sigs on?
Please no.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 25, 2010, 06:17:44 PM
The forum moderators here are behaving real bush league with the constant thread title changes of Wii topics.

If you want to diss Nintendo, then do so within the framework of discussion, don't deface thread titles just because you can't put your moderator abilities to any legitimate use. Even GAF keeps that shit to a minimum.

But when you have second-rate hacks like GDS and Willco running things (to the ground), this sort of child's play becomes common.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2010, 06:23:23 PM
The forum moderators here are behaving real bush league with the constant thread title changes of Wii topics.

If you want to diss Nintendo, then do so within the framework of discussion, don't deface thread titles just because you can't put your moderator abilities to any legitimate use. Even GAF keeps that shit to a minimum.

But when you have second-rate hacks like GDS and Willco running things (to the ground), this sort of child's play becomes common.

I gotta be on Nintendosbooger's side on this one - defacing thread titles/OPs is bush-league amateur hour, on par with forced name/tag changes for users. Sack up and have it out in the thread proper like a man. We've HAD this discussion before but we might as well have it in front of the kids.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 25, 2010, 06:28:12 PM
That image Booger posted about controller evolution is way the fuck off.  With the exception of the Dreamcast and original Wii controller, practically every controller has copied the Dual Shock layout
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Third on January 25, 2010, 06:33:09 PM
Looks like the distinguished mentally-challenged version of the Ps3 controller.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Third on January 25, 2010, 06:45:11 PM
Thread title was changed? I knew there was something wrong about Nbooger using "dual shock controller" for this fat Nintendo controller.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: BlueTsunami on January 25, 2010, 06:57:20 PM
Nintendo fails at this one, they should have bitten the better Next Gen controller

(http://i46.tinypic.com/1gje9t.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 25, 2010, 06:59:02 PM
best controller evar :bow

spoiler (click to show/hide)
too bad the dpad sucks  >:(
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Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Third on January 25, 2010, 07:00:03 PM
X360 controller is definitely the best controller ever. You just can't deny that.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Beezy on January 25, 2010, 07:06:10 PM
X360 controller is definitely the best controller ever. You just can't deny that.
A lot of Sony fans do and it makes absolutely no sense to me.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: cool breeze on January 25, 2010, 07:07:48 PM
I'm between the 360 controller and the Xbox S-controller.  I like how the triggers were lower, less springy, and the d-pad was a lot better.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: pilonv1 on January 25, 2010, 07:12:39 PM
controller S did have a heavenly dpad.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Beezy on January 25, 2010, 07:19:36 PM
I don't understand why they didn't stick with the same dpad.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Rob on January 25, 2010, 07:28:34 PM
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A lot of Sony fans do and it makes absolutely no sense to me.

these are the same fans who :

thought the bat controller prototype was going to be the best controller ever
thought the removal of rumble was a good thing because it put too much strain on developers to implement/hurts my hands/i switch it off anyways
thought they were then getting next gen rumble, suddenly loved rumble again
thought that sixaxis was going to be some game changing revolution used in every game
thought the rumble they actually got was a big FUCK YOU to the haters from Sony and that the rumble was vastly superior to previous rumble (despite being exactly the same)
thought that being told "rumble not possible" "oh wait it is... go buy some new controllers, $50 a pop!" was "Sony sticking it to Xbots!"
think that the DS3 superiority is so vast that it somehow negates shit fest third party efforts

so... yeah... forgive me if i don't value anything they say.

:piss Sfags  :piss2

:bow dcharlie :bow2



Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 25, 2010, 07:31:26 PM
Thinking about a 360 controller with an s-controller dpad slapped on is making me a little wet.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2010, 07:47:13 PM
Thinking about a 360 controller with an s-controller dpad slapped on is making me a little wet.

(http://vpgames.com/images/product/large/518_1_.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: cool breeze on January 25, 2010, 08:03:22 PM
they actually made a new version, it even had 6 face buttons!  also lets you adjust analog sensitivity on the controller itself.  But it's wired  :yuck

(http://i48.tinypic.com/sy0yly.jpg)

there is also that Razer 360 controller that looks nice, but again, wired.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: demi on January 25, 2010, 08:05:23 PM
Why do you always edit people's threads, Lyte?
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 25, 2010, 08:16:49 PM
I thought I read somewhere that the horis do have better dpads, but the analog sticks aren't as good.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Kestastrophe on January 25, 2010, 08:27:36 PM
Man who the hell cares about the DPAD.
because everything else is sooooo good, that it makes this one fault even more glaring. I do see swaggaz's point about the controller s, which was excellent in its own right. That was perfect for shooters
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 25, 2010, 08:43:38 PM
good deal for those interested in the game

at $20 the price of the controller by itself isn't bad, i might pick one up for vc games and such
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Trent Dole on January 25, 2010, 08:50:54 PM
I think some of you bastardheads are having a little too much fun with Mr. Benny Lava here. It's about time they got the CCP out here, the thread title change made me think it'd have vibration for a second. I suppose if the online for Tri is free in the US I'll bite and if not I'll just get me a a controller with actual grips for hawt homebrew action.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 25, 2010, 09:11:50 PM
The forum moderators here are behaving real bush league with the constant thread title changes of Wii topics.

If you want to diss Nintendo, then do so within the framework of discussion, don't deface thread titles just because you can't put your moderator abilities to any legitimate use. Even GAF keeps that shit to a minimum.

But when you have second-rate hacks like GDS and Willco running things (to the ground), this sort of child's play becomes common.

I'm just sinking down to your level -doing that in place of constant name calling and stereotypes!-

If you'd like me to play the role of real moderator and go all "serious business" on you, then I'd be more than happy to ban you for your constant harsh language towards other members and your little comment to DCharlie about Asians and math. 

Also REAL TALK-- If you have any other comments you'd like to make on the subject, PM me.

I think some of you bastardheads are having a little too much fun with Mr. Benny Lava here. It's about time they got the CCP out here, the thread title change made me think it'd have vibration for a second. I suppose if the online for Tri is free in the US I'll bite and if not I'll just get me a a controller with actual grips for hawt homebrew action.

They do sell grips you can get for the classic controller to add that same Dual Shock-like shape to it pretty cheap, but the CCP is obviously still better since they finally put the two Z buttons in an actually-accessable place and moved the cord from the bottom of the controller to the top where it should have been in the first place. 
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2010, 09:49:55 PM
when do we get the CCCP
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
the N64 is the worst controller of the past 20 years

That honor goes to the The Duke.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: ananus on January 25, 2010, 10:08:59 PM
i thought all the asians were supposed to be good at math?

are you gonna ban me over that, lyte edge, you little bitch? and then you can say i got banned for being a racist instead of you being distinguished mentally-challenged, which is definitely the case here right

maybe the next gta saints row should take place inside a box around your vagina, since there's so much sand in it
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 25, 2010, 10:14:01 PM
i thought all the asians were supposed to be good at math?

are you gonna ban me over that, lyte edge, you little bitch? and then you can say i got banned for being a racist instead of you being distinguished mentally-challenged, which is definitely the case here right

maybe the next gta saints row should take place inside a box around your vagina, since there's so much sand in it

This is exactly why you got banned last time.    :lol   No, you're getting banned for derailing this topic for no reason!
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 25, 2010, 10:15:20 PM
maybe the next gta saints row should take place inside a box around your vagina, since there's so much sand in it

you know, "box" is slang for "vagina"; you could have done so much better here
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 25, 2010, 10:15:32 PM
maybe the next gta saints row should take place inside a box around your vagina, since there's so much sand in it

I lol'd at this.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: demi on January 25, 2010, 10:19:01 PM
Uh, ananus didnt do anything wrong. What is wrong with you lyte? Fuckin a bro
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 25, 2010, 10:21:18 PM
Uh, ananus didnt do anything wrong. What is wrong with you lyte? Fuckin a bro

He came into this topic just to post that.  Nothing on-topic, just a stab at me over being butt-hurt off his last ban, which was for the same reason.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: demi on January 25, 2010, 10:21:52 PM
WELL YOU SURE REMEDIED THAT SITUATION

I guess ignoring it would have been too much work
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 25, 2010, 10:23:02 PM
He knew what he was getting into.  :P

HOW BOUT THAT CLASSIC CONTROLLER?
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: demi on January 25, 2010, 10:24:21 PM
OH YOU MEAN THE DUAL SHOCK HUR HUR HUR?

You're so shady bro, you should ease up
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 25, 2010, 10:27:11 PM
I'm pretty relaxed, guy. 
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: ananus on January 25, 2010, 10:31:05 PM
pm me next time.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Beezy on January 25, 2010, 11:19:32 PM
Man who the hell cares about the DPAD.
Those of us who play fighters. It's also better for puzzle games and old school type games on Live Arcade (or Genesis/Namco collections).
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Ichirou on January 25, 2010, 11:48:09 PM
dcharlie, are you saying ananus = demi?
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 26, 2010, 12:34:52 AM
Man who the hell cares about the DPAD.
Those of us who play fighters. It's also better for puzzle games and old school type games on Live Arcade (or Genesis/Namco collections).

Did you ever try sanding down the ring around a 360 d-pad or whatever it is you do to make it more responsive?  Always wondered how well that really worked.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on January 26, 2010, 12:38:37 AM
Man who the hell cares about the DPAD.
Those of us who play fighters. It's also better for puzzle games and old school type games on Live Arcade (or Genesis/Namco collections).

Did you ever try sanding down the ring around a 360 d-pad or whatever it is you do to make it more responsive?  Always wondered how well that really worked.

Buncha bullshit. Did it with one of my controllers and it made no noticeable difference.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: etiolate on January 26, 2010, 12:46:41 AM
Nintendo fails at this one, they should have bitten the better Next Gen controller

(http://i46.tinypic.com/1gje9t.jpg)

I actually agree. The dual shocks analog placements are fucking distinguished mentally-challenged for 3d movement. Bad move by N to copy it when you already had the right placement BEFORE.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: treythemovie on January 26, 2010, 12:53:16 AM
250k

LTD sales? You're crazy, man. If this game doesn't sell at least 300k in its first month, I'll shut up and won't post another thread for a month.
Isn't this game coming out in April?  :lol
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Beezy on January 26, 2010, 12:59:24 AM
Man who the hell cares about the DPAD.
Those of us who play fighters. It's also better for puzzle games and old school type games on Live Arcade (or Genesis/Namco collections).

Did you ever try sanding down the ring around a 360 d-pad or whatever it is you do to make it more responsive?  Always wondered how well that really worked.
Nah, didn't wanna fuck up my controller.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 26, 2010, 01:21:53 AM
360 dpad sucks, never set any important items/weapons on the diagonals
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: cool breeze on January 26, 2010, 08:13:51 AM
Man who the hell cares about the DPAD.
Those of us who play fighters. It's also better for puzzle games and old school type games on Live Arcade (or Genesis/Namco collections).

Did you ever try sanding down the ring around a 360 d-pad or whatever it is you do to make it more responsive?  Always wondered how well that really worked.

I've did it for my wired 360 controller and it's slightly better.  A did the crazier mod of sanding + putting a piece of plastic under the pad once, and again it isn't a significant improvement.

 
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: tiesto on January 26, 2010, 09:05:26 AM
the N64 is the worst controller of the past 20 years

That honor goes to the The Duke.

Dreamcast controller is also up there too.
Title: Re: Dual Shock controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 26, 2010, 10:09:15 AM
the N64 is the worst controller of the past 20 years

That honor goes to the The Duke.

Dreamcast controller is also up there too.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 26, 2010, 06:36:55 PM
the N64 controller was a great controller....

... for Mario 64. And that was about it.

Oh and Mario Tennis.

For everything else it was absolute gash.



Revisionist history ftw!

The N64 controller was the best original system controller for console first-person shooters at the time, which is why it was the console to own if you liked those sort of games. Sony tried to tap into the FPS market with their PSX, as well, but gamers would have preferred drinking a tall glass of water with broken glass dust sprinkled in than play games like GE, PD, Turok, etc with a cheap SNES knockoff pad.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 26, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
If you liked those sort of games, you were playing them on PC.  Goldeneye multi was fun for a minute though.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Eel O'Brian on January 26, 2010, 06:42:39 PM
i liked the duke controller

then again i don't have babyhands
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 26, 2010, 06:43:17 PM
I thought the Duke was fine but the Controller S was a nice improvement.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 26, 2010, 06:47:14 PM
If you liked those sort of games, you were playing them on PC.  Goldeneye multi was fun for a minute though.

Which is why I specifically said among CONSOLES. If you love FPSs, you'd still be playing them on PCs, but in the mid to late 90s, if you wanted to play them on television, the N64 was your answer, thanks mostly in part to its first person friendly controller at the time.

To say it was only good for Mario games is bullshit, and anyone who preferred the Saturn or PSX controller for FP games is an idiot.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 26, 2010, 06:49:43 PM
I figured the only reason why N64 shooters were so popular was because it was the only system out there at the time that didn't feature 3D games that were jagged messes.  Your options were extremely bad and jagged 3D models or 2.5D FPS games if you went with the Saturn or PlayStation.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: bork on January 26, 2010, 06:56:29 PM
If you liked those sort of games, you were playing them on PC.  Goldeneye multi was fun for a minute though.

Which is why I specifically said among CONSOLES. If you love FPSs, you'd still be playing them on PCs

As a Hollywood Gamer™, I have plenty of FPS games available to me.

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but in the mid to late 90s, if you wanted to play them on television, the N64 was your answer, thanks mostly in part to its first person friendly controller at the time.

Like I said, Goldeneye was fun for the multi for a little bit.  I would have rather played Duke Nukem on Saturn, which also had online play with the net adaptor, or even Doom on PSOne for everything else.  I didn't give a shit about FPS games on consoles until Halo came along and did it right.  I will give it to Sega for the awesome -but severely overlooked- Outtrigger on Dreamcast too.  It was fun playing that game online while it lasted, ditto for Alien Front Online.

I figured the only reason why N64 shooters were so popular was because it was the only system out there at the time that didn't feature 3D games that were jagged messes.  Your options were extremely bad and jagged 3D models or 2.5D FPS games if you went with the Saturn or PlayStation.

They both sucked. Jagged messes or blurry, muddy vaseline textures.  Take your pick!
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: cool breeze on January 26, 2010, 07:26:21 PM
I was not a fan of the turok games.  The rare fps games were pretty fun because they pretty much did all the aiming for you.  Even Medal of Honor on the PS1 with dual analog controls sucked because it required you to aim, and other shooters on the PS1 required you to hold a lock on button or something.  In goldeneye you could run down a hallway and it would do the work for you.  Really shallow but also really fun at the time.

i liked the duke controller

then again i don't have babyhands

I really liked the Duke controller for the ~3 years I used it until I bought my own 360 that came with an S-controller.

I was probably 13 or 14 when I first used it for Halo and never had a problem with it.  I never understood the complaints that it was too large.  I also don't understand complains that the PS3 controller is too small.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 26, 2010, 07:44:23 PM
I don't remember anyone saying they liked FPSes on the N64 because of the controller. You were about four years old at the time Booger, so I will enlighten you. People played FPSes on N64 because they were on N64. There were MoH games and shit that controlled just fine with a DualShock, as they do now.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: cool breeze on January 26, 2010, 07:50:17 PM
I don't remember anyone saying they liked FPSes on the N64 because of the controller. You were about four years old at the time Booger, so I will enlighten you. People played FPSes on N64 because they were on N64. There were MoH games and shit that controlled just fine with a DualShock, as they do now.

I liked MoH and Underground more than the most N64 shooters, but I still think the dual analog controls were way too touchy for me.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: Nintendosbooger on January 26, 2010, 07:56:12 PM
I don't remember anyone saying they liked FPSes on the N64 because of the controller. You were about four years old at the time Booger, so I will enlighten you. People played FPSes on N64 because they were on N64. There were MoH games and shit that controlled just fine with a DualShock, as they do now.

I wasn't 4 at the time, and even if I were, I'd still be getting more ass than you, pussy.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 26, 2010, 08:05:26 PM
Doubtful.
Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: etiolate on January 27, 2010, 12:58:33 AM
Everyone is welcome to opinions and all, but you all really should have some basis and thought behind it.

1. N64 controller was designed for Mario 64 and from that designed for 3d movement. The two are linked. The analog being in the primary position is vital for 3d movement.
2. The DS was a lazily designed controller with lazily added on analog sticks. Since the left stick, often the primary movement stick, was in a secondary position 3d control suffered. The amount of precision and control is just not the same.
3. Sony was the only one who stuck to this. Sony has never been the FPS platform. These two things are not coincidences. Nintendo and Microsoft went with the primary position and their games benefited.
4. This has been gone over a hundred times and I can't believe people still go on spewing ridiculous ideas and wrong information and covering it up as opinion.

Title: Re: Classic Pro controller to be bundled with Monster Hunter TRI
Post by: AdmiralViscen on January 27, 2010, 09:04:53 AM
Who are you even disputing?