According to a report by European videogame news site CVG, Nintendo President Satoru Iwata was offered the opportunity to use the technology behind Microsoft's Project Natal on the Wii. Iwata turned it down.
The reason Iwata refused to accept the technology, despite being impressed by the demo created by 3DV Systems, was because he didn't believe they could release the peripheral at a mass-market price and couldn't see it as an add-on peripheral for Wii.
I love how you make it out that Rare and Nintendo were enemies or some shit. Nintendo screwed Rare over, and most of the staff bailed because they thought that they'd be sticking with Nintendo.
There is such a thing as being too big a fan, and I believe you've crossed that line several times over. However, you're probably a troll anyways so :lenowned
How exactly did I make it seem like they were enemies?
September, 2002 - Microsoft acquires Rare: In a daring move that would catapult Nintendo reputation as a ruthless negotiator to heights never before witnessed since the Herschel Walker trade, Nintendo unloaded a bloated and thoroughly exhausted 2nd party deadweight to their rivals for hundreds of millions of dollars. The return? Rare has yet to release a single fucking game for any Microsoft console worthy of their enormous price tag. Nintendo came out like bandits, and Rare has since elected to make games for the Nintendo DS in hopes of bolstering their pitiful post-N64 resume. Currently, the developing team has been relegated to avatar and TECH duties for Microsoft's upcoming Natal.
Also, I bolded "enormous price tag" because what the fuck are you talking about? The budget for Rare's games? Last I checked they aren't exorbitant. They aren't indie, but what the fuck do you expect? Maybe you're talking about the consumer price-tag? Next-gen games cost $10 more than a first-party Wii game, which are usually the only ones worth getting, as evidenced by your fucktarded attempts at trying to bandy the Wii around like some savior of independent video gaming, when all you own are first-party titles, all of which I'm sure Nintendo spent a fuck-ton of money developing, Hollywood-gaming style.
QuoteAlso, I bolded "enormous price tag" because what the fuck are you talking about? The budget for Rare's games? Last I checked they aren't exorbitant. They aren't indie, but what the fuck do you expect? Maybe you're talking about the consumer price-tag? Next-gen games cost $10 more than a first-party Wii game, which are usually the only ones worth getting, as evidenced by your fucktarded attempts at trying to bandy the Wii around like some savior of independent video gaming, when all you own are first-party titles, all of which I'm sure Nintendo spent a fuck-ton of money developing, Hollywood-gaming style.
:wtf
I'm pretty sure he's talking about the $375 million that Microsoft paid to buy up all of Rare's stock.
so is perfect dark zero :tomato
Nuts & Bolts is bad ass.People talk about how Rare has fallen, but I bought Nuts and Bolts despite disliking the original games. What got me to pick up N&B was its stellar demo, and the fact that Viva Piñata is one the most addictive games I've ever played. The last game that kept me up that late was Zork on the Apple //e.
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So Iwata turned down unproven technology, what's all the fuss about?
Project Natal is just as big a joke as the Ps3 Wand at this point, the only difference is the Wand is a joke because Sony are completely dropping the ball on it while Natal is a joke because it is basically a repackaged EyeToy.
The hilarious part is people are trying to make Iwatas' decision appear as a terrible move and loss for Nintendo; Wake up folks, Nintendo are dominating everyone in the video game business. I mean, not only are they outselling their competitors hardware-wise, but they're also crushing their "Epic/blockbuster/AAAAAAA"games with the same ip they've had for the last 20+ years. So why would they need an incredibly laggy Camera add-on for their Wii?
Wait a second, the DSi camera isn't even a full megapixel?
QuoteThese 360 cats live in their own little world. You say anything positive about Nintendo and these clowns will be all over you. Favorable impression of a Wii game? Not allowed in this territory, with the gang mentality going on here. They're like fucking sheep.
there's nothing positive in "ha ha we sold a dev" , "ha ha we didn't buy this dev" and "ha ha, the wii doesn't have enough power to run the Natal tech so Iwata decided against it"
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The Wii gets it because of it's turgid line up littered with shovelware shit and a lack of real games
So Iwata turned down unproven technology, what's all the fuss about?
Project Natal is just as big a joke as the Ps3 Wand at this point, the only difference is the Wand is a joke because Sony are completely dropping the ball on it while Natal is a joke because it is basically a repackaged EyeToy.
The hilarious part is people are trying to make Iwatas' decision appear as a terrible move and loss for Nintendo; Wake up folks, Nintendo are dominating everyone in the video game business. I mean, not only are they outselling their competitors hardware-wise, but they're also crushing their "Epic/blockbuster/AAAAAAA"games with the same ip they've had for the last 20+ years. So why would they need an incredibly laggy Camera add-on for their Wii?
Preach, my man.
These 360 cats live in their own little world. You say anything positive about Nintendo and these clowns will be all over you. Favorable impression of a Wii game? Not allowed in this territory, with the gang mentality going on here. They're like fucking sheep.
Rare can still make great games, but I don't think Microsoft has any interest in letting them do it anymore.
QuoteSo why would they need an incredibly laggy Camera add-on for their Wii?
jesus, the camera wouldn't be the issue, interpreting the point cloud on fucking GAMECUBE tech would be.
This tech is used in a number of other areas, with no lag. It runs on the X360, with no lag. WOW, I wonder what would introduce lag concerns?! :O
also, if we want to talk about shitty camera tech... let's have a look at the DSi shall we? Not even HALF a megapixel ?!
Nintendo : Cheap ass fuckers.
QuoteGames, lulz. Remember, it is a praiseworthy thing that there are less games available. You rarely meet ntards these days that are into games first, and corporate knob polishing second. I guess those dudes all got other systems, leaving only said knob polishers.
haha, basically.
What is even funnier is that they laugh and slap themselves on the back about what a great bit of business selling Rare was, yet somehow slap themselves on the back for missing out on picking up Media Molecule for, frankly, next to nothing - a company now worth much much more than when they were being touted around. That's simply bad business.
It's simple - all they know is that "nintendo is doing well" and from that they are inferring that every decision they take , be it business/stock market/gaming based, is the right one.
http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/01/analysts_see_project_natal_as_microsofts_next_billion-dollar_product.html
Oh more good Nintendo news, projections of Billion $ revenues from analysts for Natal - thank god they dodged that bullet.
sorry but you lose nb
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QuoteI know right? It's like Nintendos' success doesn't exist
um, it doesn't though.
The wii being this generations "deelieboppers" hardly means roaring success. As a platform it's utter wank.
The DS however is NOT, it's a monster machine THANKS TO AMAZING SOFTWARE that serves both 1st -and- 3rd party needs.
The Wii is a "lol, like we give a fuck about 3rd parties!" machine serving mamaiwagta and his selfserving agenda.
What is with DCharlie's absolute hatred of Nintendo. It is like they took his 9 year odl daughter shoved their cock in her, peed in her ass and came all over his face.
QuoteCan you blame them though? Even when they made good shit on the N64 and the GC, the casuals didnt want to buy the damn thing. They are a business after all.
of course i don't blame Nintendo for the change in direction - and Iwata is a genius. As i've said prior - the repackaging of the GC will go down in history as one of the greatest pieces of marketing EVER in any industry.
however, again, that does not elevate the Wii beyond it being extremely disappointing. The library is a mash of awful half arsed efforts, a couple of diamonds, and then utter dross.
i don't give a shit with 99% of the world population likes. The fact that millions of tagnuts went out and bought Wii's doesn't make it a great console. It makes it a great sales success, it doesn't elevate the botchfest it is anything beyond "meh".
So in the eyes of Damian79, basically if something is considered a sales success, it can't be criticized. Gotcha.
Aonuma:
And the Chomps who appear in the Mario games were also enemies. At a certain point in the game you could have them walk along with you.
Nakago:
That’s right! The SRD programmer was doing whatever he wanted and had it so you could hold onto and walk a Chomp that had previously been your enemy and have it eat flowers in front of a dungeon.
Iwata:
Now just wait a second! Chomps in Zelda?
Nakago:
Yeah. They just appeared like it was normal. And Piranha Plants and Goombas, too.
Iwata:
That certainly is unrestrained. (laughs) You wouldn’t do anything like that today, would you?
Tezuka:
No, I doubt it.
Nakago:
If we did, I suppose you’d get mad.
Tezuka:
Yeah, I’d get mad. (bluntly)
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well, at least the old man is doing his best to tone down the stench of the Wii. Fair play to him.
QuoteI know right? It's like Nintendos' success doesn't exist
um, it doesn't though.
The wii being this generations "deelieboppers" hardly means roaring success. As a platform it's utter wank.
The DS however is NOT, it's a monster machine THANKS TO AMAZING SOFTWARE that serves both 1st -and- 3rd party needs.
The Wii is a "lol, like we give a fuck about 3rd parties!" machine serving mamaiwagta and his selfserving agenda.
Can you blame them though? Even when they made good shit on the N64 and the GC, the casuals didnt want to buy the damn thing. They are a business after all.
QuoteI know right? It's like Nintendos' success doesn't exist
um, it doesn't though.
The wii being this generations "deelieboppers" hardly means roaring success. As a platform it's utter wank.
The DS however is NOT, it's a monster machine THANKS TO AMAZING SOFTWARE that serves both 1st -and- 3rd party needs.
The Wii is a "lol, like we give a fuck about 3rd parties!" machine serving mamaiwagta and his selfserving agenda.
Oh I see; your argument is based on the availability and sales performance of hardcore 3rd party titles on the platform, while mine is based on the fact that the Wii has been a profitable machine for Nintendo and has outperformed both Sony and Microsoft in hardware, first party software, mind share, and everything else in between.
Drew, don't you have some more self snapshots to take, you starving-for-acceptance myspace starlet?
QuoteI know right? It's like Nintendos' success doesn't exist
um, it doesn't though.
The wii being this generations "deelieboppers" hardly means roaring success. As a platform it's utter wank.
The DS however is NOT, it's a monster machine THANKS TO AMAZING SOFTWARE that serves both 1st -and- 3rd party needs.
The Wii is a "lol, like we give a fuck about 3rd parties!" machine serving mamaiwagta and his selfserving agenda.
Oh I see; your argument is based on the availability and sales performance of hardcore 3rd party titles on the platform, while mine is based on the fact that the Wii has been a profitable machine for Nintendo and has outperformed both Sony and Microsoft in hardware, first party software, mind share, and everything else in between.
Imagine that, a Wiiner clinging to sales. Wii evangelists attempting to establish a Nintendo presence on a forum so unfortunately filled with gamers, it's not a pretty sight. :gloomy
By the by, no one worth paying attention to is claiming that Nintendo is somehow doing anything wrong for itself. That doesn't make the Wii any less of a shit system filled to the brim with garbage-ware. Of course, this would be mourned only by real fans of Nintendo games and typically competent hardware, not by the corporate slob-jobber ntards that have set up shop this generation.
Pay the idiot Duckman no mind. He doesn't own a Wii and he'll say the darnest things to justify his previous decision to sell it. He's like one of those jilted females who stupidly dumped an all-star winner and now would rather jump off of a bridge before saying anything even remotely cordial about their successful ex-boyfriend.
Pay the idiot Duckman no mind. He doesn't own a Wii and he'll say the darnest things to justify his previous decision to sell it. He's like one of those jilted females who stupidly dumped an all-star winner and now would rather jump off of a bridge before saying anything even remotely cordial about their successful ex-boyfriend.So you're saying the Wii has poor sexual performance?
QuoteHe doesn't own a Wii and he'll say the darnest things to justify his previous decision to sell it.
maybe he was just too addicted to the amazing line up that he just HAD to sell it to save himself?QuoteHe's like one of those jilted females who stupidly dumped an all-star winner and now would rather jump off of a bridge before saying anything even remotely cordial about their successful ex-boyfriend.
lol, your constant bringing up of women/pussy/superiority... this is all pointing to one thing : so you got dumped recently? Aww... first girlfriend too? or did someone accidental stub a cigarette out on her and she burst?
so you either got dumped for a high school jock (X360 owner naturally, good at sports, good with women, good with taste) or it was :'( RIP Inflatable Ingrid :'(
hmmm... which one i wonder?
QuoteHe doesn't own a Wii and he'll say the darnest things to justify his previous decision to sell it.
maybe he was just too addicted to the amazing line up that he just HAD to sell it to save himself?QuoteHe's like one of those jilted females who stupidly dumped an all-star winner and now would rather jump off of a bridge before saying anything even remotely cordial about their successful ex-boyfriend.
lol, your constant bringing up of women/pussy/superiority... this is all pointing to one thing : so you got dumped recently? Aww... first girlfriend too? or did someone accidental stub a cigarette out on her and she burst?
so you either got dumped for a high school jock (X360 owner naturally, good at sports, good with women, good with taste) or it was :'( RIP Inflatable Ingrid :'(
hmmm... which one i wonder?
wait Nintendosbooger.....spoiler (click to show/hide)you dropped your white flag, pussy.Quoteor conduct contests with each other under these conditions
loooooool. "Nearest escape route" total.[close]
lol, where did that happen?
Nintendo fans all enjoying a defeat acid bath together right now, Wii-ron Maiden "run to the hills" playing as the stampede of retreat thunders across evilbore.
I await my $60 bet win with glee.
Do you hear that Iwatowned, Reggie Filsamimimmimi, Perin Crappedon, Shigsy Mimimimimiyamoto.... your boys took a hell of a beating...
nb drove dcharlie stark raving mad
wtf?
why do you people keep telling people they are "taking the internet too seriously" when you lot are the ones falling blatantly into that trap over and over again?
If you think anything going on in these threads is ANYTHING other than banter then i have NO FUCKING CLUE -what- sort of website you think this is!
NO ONE around here, certainly people who've been here for any length of time, is taking ANY of this seriously.
QuoteIt is about effort dude. If it was me I wouldnt waste more than one line typing to him.
where is the fun in that?!
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