THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Damian79 on February 05, 2010, 08:55:42 PM
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I was wondering if you guys think gaming is reaching the end of its creativity. Is there much room for more creative titles next gen? Does it need to be more creative?
Also why arent there more games like Wonder Project J, Axelay and Cybernator. It is like good games comes and no one wants to expand on them. I so miss the days of the SNES. Where it seems devs came up with games upon games of great ideas. Todays games seem to be creative solely on asthetic like Madworld.
Please name me some creative games for this gen BORE!
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Is mirror's edge on pc?
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Just bought it off steam for $20.
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Bayonetta :smug
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gaf is that way
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gaf is that way
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I mostly agree with you.
Stick with pc and you should be fine, but the three only truly creative games I have played this gen are Portal, Dead Rising and Mirror's Edge. Play all of them.
Also, downloadable titles are usually the way to go these days. Get stuff like Braid, Trine, the Pixeljunk games, whatever. Since they tend to have to go for a lower budget, they can involve more risk.
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I was wondering if you guys think gaming is reaching the end of its creativity. Is there much room for more creative titles next gen? Does it need to be more creative?
Also why arent there more games like Wonder Project J, Axelay and Cybernator. It is like good games comes and no one wants to expand on them. I so miss the days of the SNES. Where it seems devs came up with games upon games of great ideas. Todays games seem to be creative solely on asthetic like Madworld.
Please name me some creative games for this gen BORE!
I wouldn't say it's reaching the end of its creativity, it's just very difficult to deliver completely fresh experiences without new hardware of sorts (Nintendo realized this creativity problem years ago btw).
This is the reason why I'm terribly disappointed in Sonys handling of their motion controller; They're in the perfect position to create revolutionary experiences yet here they are telling people nutty stuff like "u need a dualshock in one hand annnnnnnnd the motion controller in the other" :wtf.
Some creative games from this gen include Demons Souls, Super Mario Galaxy, Little Big Planet, Braid, and a lot more. Heavy Rain looks like another one, judging from the demo the game has the potential to be one of the most talked about games of the year.
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I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?
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You're jaded and mixed with nostalgia for a past that never was.
Like most forum posters.
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Eh, you're just getting a bit bored. It happens. Something interesting will come along sooner or later.
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I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?
There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.
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is this the same distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who poo-pooed Mass Effect 2?
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I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?
There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.
Get out.
Dead Rising is creative because it mixes an open-world and with time constraints. It's similar to Majora's Mask and BOF: Dragon Quarter, but more evolved. Every action you make will have to be accounted for on the clock, so you have to make every second count. It is a game where failure must be accepted to continue.
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I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?
There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.
Get out.
Dead Rising is creative because it mixes an open-world and with time constraints. It's similar to Majora's Mask and BOF: Dragon Quarter, but more evolved. Every action you make will have to be accounted for on the clock, so you have to make every second count. It is a game where failure must be accepted to continue.
I don't call that creativity, I call that a challenge.
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nfag has a childlike mind and doesnt enjoy the same genres his peers do (zombies)
heres me trying to act surprised
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I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?
you...?
The game puts you in a mall with zombies and wacko bosses. Every time you play, the game is different because it has a time system that makes it impossible to do everything. Like, if some shit is going down in one part of the mall, you won't be there to see it if you're fighting a clown with two mini-chainsaws. There is the camera mechanic where pictures you take get rated on various criteria (sexy, horror, etc.) Then there is the entire juice mechanic where you mix various food and fruits to make different drinks that can make you run faster, increase life, etc. as well as a book mechanic that has bonuses like increased weapon durability. You also level up and gain more abilities; later in the game you get the imitate zombie walk from Shaun of the Dead and the ability to rib zombie guts out with your bare hands. And because the game is set in a mall, you're able to go into any store and use those items to kill the zombies, or just steal a nice suit to wear. It's fun.
Just don't get the Wii version. It's a very different game than the 360 game and they remove almost everything that made the 360 game good. I don't mean "graphics hurr hurr" but the core game is totally different and awful.
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nfag has a childlike mind and doesnt enjoy the same genres his peers do (zombies)
heres me trying to act surprised
*Yawn* Are you done yet.
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is this the same distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who poo-pooed Mass Effect 2?
Yup, but i was just trolling, i wouldnt do something like that in the main thread because that would be lame of me, hence why i didnt.
Get out.
Dead Rising is creative because it mixes an open-world and with time constraints. It's similar to Majora's Mask and BOF: Dragon Quarter, but more evolved. Every action you make will have to be accounted for on the clock, so you have to make every second count. It is a game where failure must be accepted to continue.
THat sounds so sweet, loved Majoras mask and BoF:DQ.
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holy shit someone said braid
AVOID! AVOID! AVOID!
do not salt your gaming hobby by playing braid.
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yawn
guy with mario avatar doesnt like xbox game
YAWN
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yawn
guy with mario avatar doesnt like xbox game
YAWN
Let me know when you're done behaving like a toddler.
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holy shit someone said braid
AVOID! AVOID! AVOID!
do not salt your gaming hobby by playing braid.
You had a bad experience with it I assume.
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taking what i said and trying to flip it back on me (key word trying)
nice defense mechanism youve got going on there
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taking what i said and trying to flip it back on me (key word trying)
nice defense mechanism youve got going on there
What are you talking about?
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nfags brain is too underdeveloped to understand what hes even doing
youre just full of surprises!
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nfags brain is too underdeveloped to understand what hes even doing
youre just full of surprises!
Here I am talking about Left 4 Dead and creative games, here you are talking about nfags and defense mechanisms and surprises.
Huh?
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yawn
guy with mario avatar doesnt like xbox game
YAWN
Let me know when you're done behaving like a toddler.
This coming from the guy who posted the same stupid picture of a donkey multiple times in the same thread?
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yawn
guy with mario avatar doesnt like xbox game
YAWN
Let me know when you're done behaving like a toddler.
This coming from the guy who posted the same stupid picture of a donkey multiple times in the same thread?
It's nice to know I have admirers.
Tell me something, are you sure you didn't miss the point of that pic.
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there you go with another defense mechanism :lol
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there you go with another defense mechanism :lol
Are you still talking about defense mechanisms.
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ill try to explain this to you, you know when you read words and it makes you feel bad? a defense mechanism is that snarky stretch you make to make to...make it not sting so much
btw, this isnt gaf, this is a small forum, people are going to call you on your bullshit, its not that hard to follow peoples posts, in fact it takes more effort to avoid them, so just because someone calls you out doesnt mean they are "your fan"
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TripleA shitting up another thread again.
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ill try to explain this to you, you know when you read words and it makes you feel bad? a defense mechanism is that snarky stretch you make to make to...make it not sting so much
btw, this isnt gaf, this is a small forum, people are going to call you on your bullshit, its not that hard to follow peoples posts, in fact it takes more effort to avoid them, so just because someone calls you out doesnt mean they are "your fan"
I'm serious when I ask this; What are you talking about?
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I could have sworn I've seen the name Raban before.
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I sometimes get in funks like that from playing, say, Mirror's Edge, which is such a unique take on everything it does that it makes first person shooters appear uninspired, creatively bankrupt and uninteresting, but it's pretty unfair. Games are evolving like crazy, but most of them don't do it with big swaths like ME, with a majority focusing on making many small adjustments over several versions. The short gestation period between games makes it harder to spot the new ideas and improvements, but it's all there. And like others have said, it's not exactly a unique complaint.
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If you can't find a whole slew of games to enjoy this gen then i just don't know where you are looking...
This.
If you can't find something to like with more games coming out on a myriad of platforms than ever before then I'm not sure what to say.
There is probably no one dominant platform like in some of the gens which means you probably have to game on a couple to get your fix but if you can't find games you aren't looking.
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Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts
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TripleA shitting up another thread again.
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just you. Take a break for a bit.
2009-2010 has better gaming than any years since 2004 and 1998. If you take a break and come back with a fresh outlook you will find plenty of fantastic new titles that are very fun, innovative, and polished.
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You haven't played Mirror's Edge yet. Don't post in this thread again until you do.
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Don't post again.
Fixed.
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just you. Take a break for a bit.
2009-2010 has better gaming than any years since 2004 and 1998. If you take a break and come back with a fresh outlook you will find plenty of fantastic new titles that are very fun, innovative, and polished.
I'm with you on '98, but what was so amazing about '04?
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MGS3 (what I still consider the best console game to date)
Half-life 2 (what I still consider the best PC game to date)
Shadow Hearts 2 (my favorite game of all time)
Ninja Gaiden (self-explanatory)
Rallisport Challenge 2 (best arcade racer ever)
Halo 2 (love/hate but it was a big deal)
Mawaru Made in Mario (innovative and fantastic; best in the series still)
Import-wise Dragon Quest V remake on PS2 (one of the best rpgs ever in a great looking and fully orchestrated awesome remake)
And we got the Berserk PS2 game which was awesome fanservice for fans
So yeah, 2004 was insane and up there with 1998. I think 2009 is the 3rd best year in gaming and who knows what 2010 will bring. If you notice, each time it's basically the peak of the gen. 1998 = peak of the PS1 era; developers finally got their shit together, 2004 = peak of the PS2/Xbox era, 2009/maybe 2010 = peak of PS3/X360/Wii era.
*edit, yeah WoW was big too! 2004 was HUGE
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What makes 1998 so special is that you had innovative titles across the board, no matter what platform.
The best gaming year ever.
Whoever says otherwise is an idiot.
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2010 is already the best, bunch of old fegs in this thread.
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What makes 1998 so special is that you had innovative titles across the board, no matter what platform.
The best gaming year ever.
Whoever says otherwise is an idiot.
Sure. I definitely put 1998 as 1st, and 2004 as 2nd. 1998 had Xenogears and MGS; nuff said :P
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2010 is already the best, bunch of old distinguished effete fellows in this thread.
I dunno. I mean Birth by Sleep is REAL GOOD, but dunno
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2001 > 2004
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bebpo hon, i think we need to talk.
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bebpo hon, i think we need to talk.
I don't know what this Mass Effect 2 game is that you are talking about until Steam puts it on sale ;)
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My favorite years are 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, and 2004.
1998:
Final Fantasy Tactics (PS)
Tekken 3 (PS)
Parasite Eve (PS)
StarCraft (Win)
Panzer Dragoon Saga (Sat)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (Win)
Spyro the Dragon (PS)
Fallout 2 (Win)
Pokémon Red and Blue (GB)
Xenogears (PS)
Metal Gear Solid (PS)
Grim Fandango (Win)
Half-Life (Win)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (Win)
Brave Fencer Musashi (PS)
Daytona USA 2 (arc)
Devil Dice (PS)
Heart of Darkness (PS)
MediEvil (PS)
No One Can Stop Mr. Domino! (PS)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (PS, PC)
R-Type Delta (PS)
Ridge Racer 4 (PS)
Radiant Silvergun (SAT)
RayCrysis (ARC)
Soul Calibur (ARC)
Tenchu (PS)
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im pleasantly surprised that nobody mentioned 2007
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im pleasantly surprised that nobody mentioned 2007
More popular year for movies than games I'd think.
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My favorite years are 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, and 2004.
1998:
Final Fantasy Tactics (PS)
Tekken 3 (PS)
Parasite Eve (PS)
StarCraft (Win)
Panzer Dragoon Saga (Sat)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (Win)
Spyro the Dragon (PS)
Fallout 2 (Win)
Pokémon Red and Blue (GB)
Xenogears (PS)
Metal Gear Solid (PS)
Grim Fandango (Win)
Half-Life (Win)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (Win)
Brave Fencer Musashi (PS)
Daytona USA 2 (arc)
Devil Dice (PS)
Heart of Darkness (PS)
MediEvil (PS)
No One Can Stop Mr. Domino! (PS)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (PS, PC)
R-Type Delta (PS)
Ridge Racer 4 (PS)
Radiant Silvergun (SAT)
RayCrysis (ARC)
Soul Calibur (ARC)
Tenchu (PS)
How does Alpha Centuari hold up? It's the only thing on that list I never tried besides Pokemon which I have no interest in ever playing.
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1998 is def. the best gaming year of all time. I mean, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Ocarina of Time and Xenogears all came out in the same MONTH. Love em or hate em, those are games people still talk about twelve years later.
2001 was my second favorite year - Phantasy Star Online, Final Fantasy X, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gitaroo Man, Max Payne, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2.
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1998 is def. the best gaming year of all time. I mean, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Ocarina of Time and Xenogears all came out in the same MONTH. Love em or hate em, those are games people still talk about twelve years later.
2001 was my second favorite year - Phantasy Star Online, Final Fantasy X, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gitaroo Man, Max Payne, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2.
:drool
Some of my favorite games there.
I've always wanted to play Xenogears, from what I understand it's one of the most noteworthy JRPGs, but it's impossible to find, so that's never happening.
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1998 is def. the best gaming year of all time. I mean, Half-Life, Metal Gear Solid, Ocarina of Time and Xenogears all came out in the same MONTH. Love em or hate em, those are games people still talk about twelve years later.
2001 was my second favorite year - Phantasy Star Online, Final Fantasy X, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gitaroo Man, Max Payne, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2.
Didn't SSX Tricky come out in 2001 as well?
Gosh 2001 is my second favorite, easily.
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Himuro's list of 1998 leaves off a bunch of good games (while including stuff like Spyro) I'm checking wiki and it's pretty amazing how many good games came out then.
Resident Evil 2
Baldur's Gate 1
Thief 1
Shogo
TRIBES (:rock)
2001 was my second favorite year - Phantasy Star Online, Final Fantasy X, ICO, Silent Hill 2, Gitaroo Man, Max Payne, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid 2.
:bow you :bow2 for including Gitaroo Man
personally I have a hard time ranking this stuff. I know 1998 is the best and other years hover around after that.
I also lie and consider Symphony of the Night to be a 1998 game to make it seem even more awesome.
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My favorite years are 1992, 1994, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, and 2004.
1998:
Final Fantasy Tactics (PS)
Tekken 3 (PS)
Parasite Eve (PS)
StarCraft (Win)
Panzer Dragoon Saga (Sat)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (Win)
Spyro the Dragon (PS)
Fallout 2 (Win)
Pokémon Red and Blue (GB)
Xenogears (PS)
Metal Gear Solid (PS)
Grim Fandango (Win)
Half-Life (Win)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64)
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (Win)
Brave Fencer Musashi (PS)
Daytona USA 2 (arc)
Devil Dice (PS)
Heart of Darkness (PS)
MediEvil (PS)
No One Can Stop Mr. Domino! (PS)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (PS, PC)
R-Type Delta (PS)
Ridge Racer 4 (PS)
Radiant Silvergun (SAT)
RayCrysis (ARC)
Soul Calibur (ARC)
Tenchu (PS)
How does Alpha Centuari hold up? It's the only thing on that list I never tried besides Pokemon which I have no interest in ever playing.
It owns, of course. Has some of the best writing in gaming while containing extremely deep gameplay.
Himuro's list of 1998 leaves off a bunch of good games (while including stuff like Spyro) I'm checking wiki and it's pretty amazing how many good games came out then.
Resident Evil 2
Baldur's Gate 1
Thief 1
Shogo
TRIBES (:rock)
Spyro's not bad. I swear I put in RE2. Haven't played BG1 or Shogo.
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lol Clive Barker's Undying came out in 2001. I remember playing the demo when it first came out and wanting to buy it because you could shoot energy out of your hand like in Dragon Ball Z. That's a weird memory to have.
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Gitaroo Man, never forget
2001 also had FreQuency, which doesn't float my boat but some people consider Best Music Game of All Time
2009-2010 seems to be a real gaming nexus. ME2 alone is an era-defining gold star. I guess the MW2 effect made a lot of 2009 gaming goodness slip into the first four months of 2010. ;)
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Yawn, nostalgia thread
Time to move on guys. Gaming still alive and well today.
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1998 also had :bow Einhander :bow2
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Gitaroo Man, never forget
2001 also had FreQuency, which doesn't float my boat but some people consider Best Music Game of All Time
2009-2010 seems to be a real gaming nexus. ME2 alone is an era-defining gold star. I guess the MW2 effect made a lot of 2009 gaming goodness slip into the first four months of 2010. ;)
2009 was a pretty good year for me, looking back. In previous years (2008, 2007) I was really bummed and let down on many games I was hyped for (DMC4, GTA4;etc) but in 2009 almost every game I wanted to play met my expectations and then some.
And 2010 starts out with ME2. Not bad.
1998 also had :bow Einhander :bow2
omfg :bow
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Yawn, nostalgia thread
Time to move on guys. Gaming still alive and well today.
The point is that gaming has been, still is, and will be awesome :dur
Spyro's not bad. I swear I put in RE2. Haven't played BG1 or Shogo.
I first played Spyro last year and I don't think it is very good put up against other games around the same time. It's not bad, but if you're looking at great games released in a year, it would be like putting MAG as a notable 2010 release.
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1998 also had :bow Einhander :bow2
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'98 also brought Street Fighter Alpha 3, Marvel Vs. Capcom, Real Bout 2, and The King Of Fighters '98 on the 2D fighting front. The original Bust-A-Move (AKA Bust-A-Groove), Ehrgeiz, and I think Rival Schools also came out. Plus the Dreamcast launched in Japan. Nothing too notable on that front, but Sonic Adventure did hit before the year ended.
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2009 was really good. The lowest game on my personal top10 I'd still give above a 9.0. Sure some of it was import exclusive like S&P2 (best rail shooter ever) & SMT SJ/Tales of Graces, but SFIV, Uncharted 2, DEMON SOULS, NSMB Wii, Assassin's Creed 2, ODST (yeah most of you hate it; w/e), Dragon's Age (I don't like it but most of you did; w/e), Borderlands (I didn't care for it, but most of you did; w/e), Batman, Trials HD, Williams HoF, ZOMG Cave ports, and a huge selection of great indie games like Machinarium, Time Gentlemen Please, Torchlight, and ton of others. Maybe 2009 wasn't the year HUGE HYPED GAMES (THAT DISAPPOINT; that was 2007-2008) but it was the year of games actually paying off and being high quality HD games (or actually good Wii games), something we hadn't seen in the last 3-4 years of this generation.
2010 is going to be a continuation of that. But so far there's not much announced for post first three months so it's hard to judge. KH BBS, ME2, Bayonetta (which also could go in 2009) are very strong titles, but they're still only 3 games. 2010 is going to need A LOT of games of that caliber to beat out 2009. Maybe it will...dunno. Announcements need to happen soon!
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2010 is going to be a continuation of that. But so far there's not much announced for post first three months so it's hard to judge. KH BBS, ME2, Bayonetta (which also could go in 2009) are very strong titles, but they're still only 3 games. 2010 is going to need A LOT of games of that caliber to beat out 2009. Maybe it will...dunno. Announcements need to happen soon!
Well for us non-importers, the first three months are ridiculous.
Mass Effect 2 is out, but there's also Battlefield Bad Company 2, Strange Journey, Sakura Wars 5, Final Fantasy 13, Sega Racing, Heavy Rain, Bayonetta and more. So I don't know what you're talking about.
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2010 is going to be a continuation of that. But so far there's not much announced for post first three months so it's hard to judge. KH BBS, ME2, Bayonetta (which also could go in 2009) are very strong titles, but they're still only 3 games. 2010 is going to need A LOT of games of that caliber to beat out 2009. Maybe it will...dunno. Announcements need to happen soon!
Well for us non-importers, the first three months are ridiculous.
Mass Effect 2 is out, but there's also Battlefield Bad Company 2, Strange Journey, Sakura Wars 5, Final Fantasy 13, Sega Racing, Heavy Rain, Bayonetta and more. So I don't know what you're talking about.
Sakura Wars 5 is supposed to be the worst in the series besides the action game, I dunno how that will turn out. FF13 does not belong on that list. Isn't Sega Racing just Daytona upscaled or something and still at 15fps? Oh wait, you're talking about the Kart Racer? :teehee
It'll be cool if Heavy Rain is good. I don't expect it to be, but the first 1/4th of Indigo was great so if HR is like that but for the entire game I could see it paying off. Likewise I don't expect Bioshock 2 to be great, but maybe it will.
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I will not acknowledge 2010's greatness if I don't get a good Mirror's Edge sequel with a soundtrack by Solar Fields again.
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You're jaded and mixed with nostalgia for a past that never was.
Like most forum posters.
Not really. 16 bit era variety shits all over current gaming. Sure, there was a lot of SF2 clones, but you still got Uniracers, ZAMN, Ecco, Faceball, etc.
edit: Not to mention PC wise that Sim City is released around this era and MUDs, the precursor to MMOs, and the first great FPS titles emerge all at this same period from the later half of the 16bit era and the early 32 bit era.
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Historically, the early 80s was probably the most open to anything being a game because standards of gaming had yet to be formed, but things tended more towards simple action games due to hardware. The 16 bit era refined a lot of what pre-existed, along with adding all sorts of interesting new sorts of games, while PC gaming saw the birth of some of its biggest contributions to genres at the time. Afterwards though, I'd say those genres born became so popular they consumed the other genres and PC gaming started to slim down in variety. Consoles still kept their variety and I think that is partly due to them being viable in more parts of the world at the time. You had east and west throwing in ideas on consoles, but PC gaming stayed western bound. Then, and I blame Microsoft and the Xbox for this, the PC's uber genre mentality started to come into consoles and variety started shrinking.
And now indie games seem to be the place for variety, and that brings it back to PC gaming in a way, but it still exists apart from the normal stream of games, and keeps it from ever being big budget or having the relative* exposure of a creative game idea in the 16 bit era.
*Relative, in that games are way more exposed to the public now, but indie games are an out of the way sort of thing. It's not on shelves, while a ZAMN was on shelves and highly featured in mags like EGM, which served as the highest exposure games normally got at the time.
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well it sure feels like gaming gets less wacky each year but i don't know the other side makes a compelling argument by saying "there has been a lot of crap in every year"
anyway time for me to pimp little king story :rock
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I thought there was nothing to play until I started playing games again. I think the PS2 era is king and will always be but this generation has some good stuff out.
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I think this generation is underwhelming compared to the previous one, but there's still plenty of good stuff out there and this is the generation where I've really started to be captivated by Western-made games.
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"damian79"...aren't you an nfag? die in a fire
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I liked 2008 better than 2009, but it looks like 2010 will stomp both.
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Looking back on it, PS2 is the console of the forever.
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You're jaded and/or nostalgic. Games are better now than they have ever been.
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Mass Effect 2 just came out. You should probably play that instead of weeping over your sealed copy of Actraiser.
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Looking back on it, PS2 is the console of the forever.
that's a fact
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Nostalgia :lol
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The only negative thing I'd say about diversity this gen is a lot of other game types are blending with shooters now. I don't think that's bad unless you hate completely hate shooters, which kinda ruins the argument for being close-minded.
and the jrpg selection is a bit weak, but w/e.
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Nostalgia :lol
I think nostalgia is fine, there's nothing fundamentally wrong about it. I'll talk all the time about how I really like anime from the 80's and what-not, BUT I don't let that get in the way of enjoying what's available right now. There are good games are there right now, some of them have massive budgets and some of them are made by two guys in a basement. If you want to know how to get them and what they're called, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to throw out a list of old games and then complain that "they just make the like they used to".
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"damian79"...aren't you an nfag? die in a fire
:lol
Seriously, gaming nowadays is fine. Only if you're an ntard gaming will suck.
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The 16 bit generation is the most overrated one. At least most people are able to admit that there are a few great games in a sea of shit for the 8 and 32/64 bit eras but you can't get anyone to concede for 16 bit.
Not surprising since the SNES or Genesis would be the system a lot of forum goers grew up with.
I agree with Willco. Nostalgia is pretty lol.
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Nostalgia :lol
I think nostalgia is fine, there's nothing fundamentally wrong about it. I'll talk all the time about how I really like anime from the 80's and what-not, BUT I don't let that get in the way of enjoying what's available right now. There are good games are there right now, some of them have massive budgets and some of them are made by two guys in a basement. If you want to know how to get them and what they're called, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to throw out a list of old games and then complain that "they just make the like they used to".
i agree with this.
You can have some nostalgia but don't let it cloud your judgement of current offerings.
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There is nothing even wrong with liking certain time periods more than others. Certainly there are periods where I liked movies, TV shows, music more than other periods.
As long as you keep some perspective.
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There is nothing even wrong with liking certain time periods more than others. Certainly there are periods where I liked movies, TV shows, music more than other periods.
As long as you keep some perspective.
That's the problem. Most people don't. Rose-colored glasses or bust.
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"damian79"...aren't you an nfag? die in a fire
:lol
Seriously, gaming nowadays is fine. Only if you're an ntard gaming will suck.
bah i can't accept this,"gaming is fine and if you disagree you are a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow LOL" and if you say that you liked some older games better than the recent release you are "blinded by nostalgia"
what kind of argument is that?
many companies are ghost of what they were in the past,sega,konami,square,heck dare to say taito? wouldn't you say that you have quite a huge problem there?
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Nobody is saying you have to hate older games. I constantly mention older games I love.
The problem is people who are distinguished mentally-challenged to state that gaming was better back then than now.
Which is so far beyond truth it makes our genius brains hurt.
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"damian79"...aren't you an nfag? die in a fire
:lol
Seriously, gaming nowadays is fine. Only if you're an ntard gaming will suck.
bah i can't accept this,"gaming is fine and if you disagree you are a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow LOL" and if you say that you liked some older games better than the recent release you are "blinded by nostalgia"
what kind of argument is that?
many companies are ghost of what they were in the past,sega,konami,square,heck dare to say taito? wouldn't you say that you have quite a huge problem there?
Those companies have gone downhill, but others have stepped up in their place.
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eh i don't know... who has taken the place of these company? and besides what if i don't like what has taken it's place instead? does that make me dumb?
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Nostalgia :lol
I think nostalgia is fine, there's nothing fundamentally wrong about it. I'll talk all the time about how I really like anime from the 80's and what-not, BUT I don't let that get in the way of enjoying what's available right now. There are good games are there right now, some of them have massive budgets and some of them are made by two guys in a basement. If you want to know how to get them and what they're called, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to throw out a list of old games and then complain that "they just make the like they used to".
As much as this is true with games, with anime notsomuch. Even being objective, anime 2005-present is really fucking bad compared to 70s-2004.
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eh i don't know... who has taken the place of these company? and besides what if i don't like what has taken it's place instead? does that make me dumb?
No but you have to realize a lot of people may not care or may like the current market better. It's fine to have a subjective opinion and voice that opinion. Just don't so easily extrapolate those views as if everyone does or must feel that way.
You had just as much crap as people complain about today as in any other era. People seem to forgot the litter of side scrolling platformers and 2-D fighting games that defined the 16 bit era.
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eh i don't know... who has taken the place of these company? and besides what if i don't like what has taken it's place instead? does that make me dumb?
More western developers have been stepping up and delivering the bigger titles that Japanese companies used to.
Nostalgia :lol
I think nostalgia is fine, there's nothing fundamentally wrong about it. I'll talk all the time about how I really like anime from the 80's and what-not, BUT I don't let that get in the way of enjoying what's available right now. There are good games are there right now, some of them have massive budgets and some of them are made by two guys in a basement. If you want to know how to get them and what they're called, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to throw out a list of old games and then complain that "they just make the like they used to".
As much as this is true with games, with anime notsomuch. Even being objective, anime 2005-present is really fucking bad compared to 70s-2004.
It could be argued that certain genres of games were better during different times, but gaming as a whole has certainly gotten better. Still tons and tons of crap out there, but it's always going to be like that.
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Nostalgia :lol
I think nostalgia is fine, there's nothing fundamentally wrong about it. I'll talk all the time about how I really like anime from the 80's and what-not, BUT I don't let that get in the way of enjoying what's available right now. There are good games are there right now, some of them have massive budgets and some of them are made by two guys in a basement. If you want to know how to get them and what they're called, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to throw out a list of old games and then complain that "they just make the like they used to".
As much as this is true with games, with anime notsomuch. Even being objective, anime 2005-present is really fucking bad compared to 70s-2004.
All anime sucks, dunno why it is in this thread.
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More western developers have been stepping up and delivering the bigger titles that Japanese companies used to.
but i'm a proud japafag :japancry :japancry :japancry
No but you have to realize a lot of people may not care or may like the current market better. It's fine to have a subjective opinion and voice that opinion. Just don't so easily extrapolate those views as if everyone does or must feel that way.
You had just as much crap as people complain about today as in any other era. People seem to forgot the litter of side scrolling platformers and 2-D fighting games that defined the 16 bit era.
i don't care much either but i can certainly see why someone might think things were better in the past so isn't it stupid to just brush them off as nfags/nostalgic guy/distinguished mentally-challenged guy?
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Nostalgia :lol
I think nostalgia is fine, there's nothing fundamentally wrong about it. I'll talk all the time about how I really like anime from the 80's and what-not, BUT I don't let that get in the way of enjoying what's available right now. There are good games are there right now, some of them have massive budgets and some of them are made by two guys in a basement. If you want to know how to get them and what they're called, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to throw out a list of old games and then complain that "they just make the like they used to".
As much as this is true with games, with anime notsomuch. Even being objective, anime 2005-present is really fucking bad compared to 70s-2004.
All anime sucks, dunno why it is in this thread.
you <3 jrpgs but you hate anime = does not compute
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Anybody who has played Crackdown knows this gen > all.
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Anybody who has played Mirror's Edge knows this gen > all.
Fixed. Don't make that mistake again.
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Anybody who has played Mirror's Edge knows this gen > all.
Fixed. Don't make that mistake again.
Bullshit. ME isn't better than Crackdown. That's like saying pounding nails into your dick is better than getting a suitcase filled with money.
EDIT: Not saying ME sucks, just in comparison to Crackdown
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Do u guys think its funny that Beezy praises a white dominant game
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Wait someone is saying that Crackdown is better than Mirror's Edge? I mean all for a plurality of opinions, but this this just GS style bottom feeding right here.
Sorry bro. I love Mirror's Edge, but Crackdown is my GOTG so far. Mirror's Edge is a linear, 6 hour FPS. Before I got rid of my 360 I think I played Crackdown for 30-some hours and I wasn't even close to finished with it. I hadn't even gotten the fucking DLC and I was having the time of my life.
And I don't think I'd compare this to Glen's love of Avatar. Both Crackdown and Mirror's Edge are on the same level objectively. They both have terrible writing, with really enjoyable platform-based gameplay. Between the two, however, Crackdown wins for having replay value streaming from every orifice. ME was a largely one-time affair for me.
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Nostalgia :lol
I think nostalgia is fine, there's nothing fundamentally wrong about it. I'll talk all the time about how I really like anime from the 80's and what-not, BUT I don't let that get in the way of enjoying what's available right now. There are good games are there right now, some of them have massive budgets and some of them are made by two guys in a basement. If you want to know how to get them and what they're called, that's fine, but it's ridiculous to throw out a list of old games and then complain that "they just make the like they used to".
As much as this is true with games, with anime notsomuch. Even being objective, anime 2005-present is really fucking bad compared to 70s-2004.
I would even agree with that. The past few years have been pretty poor compared to the time before. But, and this is what's important, there's still anime out there worth watching.
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Do u guys think its funny that Beezy praises a white dominant game
:wtf
What game isn't white dominant?
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Do u guys think its funny that Beezy praises a white dominant game
:wtf
What game isn't white dominant?
Blackdown.
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Black College Football Experience
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Do u guys think its funny that Beezy praises a white dominant game
I thought ME was about the asians
speaking of which, do we even have any asian posters here? In the pics thread everyone is either white, hispanic, or black.
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lolz. bringing race into it. racist.
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I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?
There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.
Fuck you, you stupid fuck.
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I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?
There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.
Fuck you, you stupid fuck.
Wow, games are serious business.
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I loved Crackdown, Mirror's Edge AND Dead Rising.
Yes, this gen is awesome.
I began playing games during the NES-era. The Ps1 and Ps2 era have been the best for me, so far .
But this gen is far from over. So..
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I have heard of dead rising, but i never heard of it as creative, what makes it creative?
There's nothing creative about Dead Rising, it's right up there with Left 4 Dead for being one of the most overhyped games of this generation.
Fuck you, you stupid fuck.
Wow, games are serious business.
Dead Rising bitch :punch
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games have never been better. besides pc games, past generations i'd just collect videogames rather than play them.
sorry dude.
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Why do people like Crackdown so much? It's a fun game but FUCK.
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Why do people like Crackdown so much? It's a fun game but FUCK.
If you don't know, you'll never know.
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Why do people like Crackdown so much? It's a fun game but FUCK.
You just answered your own question. It's a fun game. Plus co-op was awesome.
Crackdown and Saint's Row 2 are the best sandbox games out there.
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There's a difference between "fun game" and this:
Anybody who has played Crackdown knows this gen > all.
I'm clearly missing something.
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There's a difference between "fun game" and this:
Anybody who has played Crackdown knows this gen > all.
I'm clearly missing something.
DON'T TREAD ON ME
That post was like from personal experience. Before I played Crackdown I thought this gen sucked and was nothing compared to PS2 era, just like the OP here, but then I played Crackdown, and from that point on started trying more and more games and eventually came to love this generation a lot more than any other. Crackdown was that catalyst for my enjoyment of games this gen, but not only that, it was an excellent game in and of itself.
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There's a difference between "fun game" and this:
Anybody who has played Crackdown knows this gen > all.
I'm clearly missing something.
That's because he meant Mirror's Edge. He just doesn't know it yet.
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I dunno, cant get myself to even start playing Mirrors Edge. Stupid ass Heroes of Newerth has too much of a hold over me. Even if i do manage to play something else ill go back to HoN in a coupel of hours. So is hoN evil?
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There's a difference between "fun game" and this:
Anybody who has played Crackdown knows this gen > all.
I'm clearly missing something.
That's because he meant Mirror's Edge. He just doesn't know it yet.
:lol
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i only read a few posts into this thread so whatevs. dead rising is garbage. avoid like the plague.
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Dead Rising is a masterpiece.
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Not really. 16 bit era variety shits all over current gaming. Sure, there was a lot of SF2 clones, but you still got Uniracers, ZAMN, Ecco, Faceball, etc
Is this true? i'm really not sure it is. I love the 16 bit era but come on now, did you play half the sea of absolute dross on the Amiga/ST/SNES/MD/etc ?
Oh another few hundred tume platformers. Oh another set of wanna be streetfighters. There were gems in there but again... there's an absolute ton of variety in this gen. At worst it's a wash.
There's a ton of variety in this current gen? Are you serious? Everything is being melted together. What truly new genres have even emerged?
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There's a ton of variety in this current gen? Are you serious? Everything is being melted together. What truly new genres have even emerged?
The god genre known as first person platformers done right. :rock
Seriously though, I'm not sure about new genres, but I'm happy to see that sandbox games are more varied now instead of trying to be a jack of all trades like GTA.
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I have to admit.
It's annoying when people start calling games like Mass Effect 2 rpgs, when their rpg elements are so minuscule you might as well call them action adventure with rpg and shooting combat. I definitely wouldn't call this the most varied generation. This generation is all about polish. 32 bit and ps2 gens were more varied.
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Can open world platformer be considered a genre? I'm talking about Assassin's Creed, Crackdown, Infamous, Saboteur (haven't played this one)? the only close thing to that last gen was SoTC, and it was far more limited.
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There's a difference between "fun game" and this:
Anybody who has played Crackdown knows this gen > all.
I'm clearly missing something.
That's because he meant Mirror's Edge. He just doesn't know it yet.
I'm gonna be giving it another playthrough on PC pretty soon, we'll see what changes. Crackdown's still my GOTG for now.
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Can open world platformer be considered a genre? I'm talking about Assassin's Creed, Crackdown, Infamous, Saboteur (haven't played this one)? the only close thing to that last gen was SoTC, and it was far more limited.
Jesus Christ those games are hardly platformers. Because a game contains jumping doesn't make it a platformer.
Action Adventure.
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Can open world platformer be considered a genre? I'm talking about Assassin's Creed, Crackdown, Infamous, Saboteur (haven't played this one)? the only close thing to that last gen was SoTC, and it was far more limited.
Jesus Christ those games are hardly platformers. Because a game contains jumping doesn't make it a platformer.
Action Adventure.
I'd say the first two in his list are more platform than action. Assassin's Creed is practically all platforming, and Crackdown has a lot of platforming, Mirror's Edge, too. If you forget that they're supposed to be boss battles, SotC has ass-loads of platforming.
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Can open world platformer be considered a genre? I'm talking about Assassin's Creed, Crackdown, Infamous, Saboteur (haven't played this one)? the only close thing to that last gen was SoTC, and it was far more limited.
Jesus Christ those games are hardly platformers. Because a game contains jumping doesn't make it a platformer.
Action Adventure.
I'd say the first two in his list are more platform than action. Assassin's Creed is practically all platforming, and Crackdown has a lot of platforming, Mirror's Edge, too. If you forget that they're supposed to be boss battles, SotC has ass-loads of platforming.
Because they're not pure action games doesn't mean a thing. Both games employ emphasis on exploration (adventure) while mixing up action (action), hence ACTION-ADVENTURE.
Assassin's Creed is not "practically all platforming". Crackdown has a lot of jumping, but that's all it is. In a real platformer, you are going to be jumping for your life. In Crackdown, not so much.
He didn't even mention Mirror's Edge. Mirror's Edge is a platformer game first and foremost. The other games, not so much.
SotC has a lot of platforming, but that does not make it a platformer.
Prince of Persia: Sands of Time has a lot of platforming but it's not a platformer.
Uncharted has a lot of platforming and exploration but that does not make it a platformer.
Tomb Raider has a lot of platforming and exploration but that does not make it a platformer.
These games obviously all file under the action-adventure bracket. They aren't pure platformers because they're not all about platforming but they're not action platformers either, in the same breath as games like Mega Man or Rocket Knight Adventures. And the platforming in those games is so fucking tame and SHITTY that you'd to have the reflexes of a snail to miss a jump.
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You're getting too good at this trolling thing.
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DC, I see you mention "TUME" a few times in this thread, what is that?
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I will not acknowledge 2010's greatness if I don't get a good Mirror's Edge sequel with a soundtrack by Solar Fields again.
Fuck yeah. A Mirror's Edge sequel with less of a focus on combat, and more on running and platforming, would be amazing.
Beezy, have you ever checked out any of Solar Fields' artist albums? I absolutely LOVE Earthshine.
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It's annoying when people start calling games like Mass Effect 2 rpgs, when their rpg elements are so minuscule you might as well call them action adventure with rpg and shooting combat.
WTF. Mass Effect 2 is more RPG than FFXIII and I challenge you to prove otherwise.
FF13 has stats and actual customization.
ME2's streamlined to the point where its rpg elements are about as deep as a game like Folklore or Ratchet and Clank.
To me, an rpg is all about stats and skill customization. You can take away dialogue, stupid party member deaths, story and you'd still have an rpg if it had stats, loot, and customization. ME2 doesn't even have loot.
If you took away M2's dialogue tree you would essentially have an action adventure game with shooter combat and rpg elements because the rpg stuff like customization isn't deep enough to stand on its own.
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I will not acknowledge 2010's greatness if I don't get a good Mirror's Edge sequel with a soundtrack by Solar Fields again.
Fuck yeah. A Mirror's Edge sequel with less of a focus on combat, and more on running and platforming, would be amazing.
Beezy, have you ever checked out any of Solar Fields' artist albums? I absolutely LOVE Earthshine.
No, but I really need to if they're anything like the ME soundtrack.
Himu, skill customization isn't necessary for a game to be a rpg although a good amount of them have that.
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I will not acknowledge 2010's greatness if I don't get a good Mirror's Edge sequel with a soundtrack by Solar Fields again.
Fuck yeah. A Mirror's Edge sequel with less of a focus on combat, and more on running and platforming, would be amazing.
Beezy, have you ever checked out any of Solar Fields' artist albums? I absolutely LOVE Earthshine.
No, but I really need to if they're anything like the ME soundtrack.
Himu, skill customization isn't necessary for a game to be a rpg although a good amount of them have that.
Stats are. You can't even upgrade your stats in ME2.
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I didn't know that. I know you were able to in the first one.
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I thought RPing was about playing a role ???
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I thought RPing was about playing a role ???
FUCK NO! It's about min-maxing, turn-based battle and a whole bunch of stupid shit that JRPGs have fudge-packed so deep into our brains that we forget what RPG even stands for!
Come on, man, where have you been?
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It's about gathering up your social links and being cutesy with your girlfriend in Math class.
Himu-chan~
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I wish more RPGs had Social Links. That's a lot fun.
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I wish more RPGs had Social Links. That's a lot fun.
gay
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I thought RPing was about playing a role ???
I guess games like Infamous are rpgs now too, huh?
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I thought RPing was about playing a role ???
I guess games like Infamous are rpgs now too, huh?
God, you're such a sandy vagina all the time now. Wtf happened to you, Himu?
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Stats are. You can't even upgrade your stats in ME2.
I can customize weapon loadout, upgrade my armor stats, weapon stats, and power stats. I can even customize what kind of powers my character and my allies have albeit in a limited fashion.
You get like 3-4 armor upgrades total per armor type in the game. Even then, they're not even big upgrades. They tend to be a measly 10% + to shields or 10% to health regen. That's really it. Zelda has stuff like going from the Hylian Shield to the Mirror Shield. Guess Zelda's an rpg too.
Great, you can customize weapon loadout. Sure is a sign of an rpg.
Weapon stats? How? The upgrades you get from those kits? Lol. You can upgrade weapons in Ratchet and Clank. I guess that's an rpg too.
If ME2 is the future of rpgs, rpgs are dead.
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I thought RPing was about playing a role ???
I guess games like Infamous are rpgs now too, huh?
God, you're such a sandy vagina all the time now. Wtf happened to you, Himu?
:lol
My point is that you play a "role" in a lot of games.
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Everything is being melted together.
Why does that have to be a bad thing? I don't really see the drawback of games deriving the best elements from multiple genres, other than it makes it difficult for obsessive nerds like Himuro to apply restrictive labels to them. It's not as though a game that is partially derivative can't also be innovative
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Everything is being melted together.
Why does that have to be a bad thing? I don't really see the drawback of games deriving the best elements from multiple genres, other than it makes it difficult for obsessive nerds like Himuro to apply restrictive labels to them. It's not as though a game that is partially derivative can't also be innovative
It's not always a bad thing. SSX3 for instance, mixed up open-world gameplay with snowboard gameplay it's famous for and that worked beautifully. But it doesn't always work either.
When I want to play an rpg, and I get the most neutered "rpg" ever because some elements were favored over others, I'm going to question some things.
I'm not an obsessive nerd. I'm a gaming nerd who likes quality. Sorry that I like my games to have a semblance of depth and not be neutered to hell and back.
Alas, Hollywood Gaming. Not that Mass Effect 2 is bad, though. Far from it, but labeling ME2 an rpg is as lol as labeling games like Crackdown or Infamous or Assassin's Creed platformers. Just not happening.
You get like 3-4 armor upgrades total per armor type in the game. Even then, they're not even big upgrades. They tend to be a measly 10% + to shields or 10% to health regen. That's really it. Zelda has stuff like going from the Hylian Shield to the Mirror Shield. Guess Zelda's an rpg too.
Great, you can customize weapon loadout. Sure is a sign of an rpg.
Weapon stats? How? The upgrades you get from those kits? Lol. You can upgrade weapons in Ratchet and Clank. I guess that's an rpg too.
If ME2 is the future of rpgs, rpgs are dead.
Well, you said you couldn't when you clearly can. Don't be so angry!
I hardly call that customization. Even ME1 has 100x the customization ME2 does and ME2 is pretty shabby on that front.
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Who cares if ME2 is an RPG or not? It's one of the best GAMES of the past year.
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It's not always a bad thing. SSX3 for instance, mixed up open-world gameplay with snowboard gameplay it's famous for and that worked beautifully. But it doesn't always work either.
When I want to play an rpg, and I get the most neutered "rpg" ever because some elements were favored over others, I'm going to question some things.
I'm not an obsessive nerd. I'm a gaming nerd who likes quality. Sorry that I like my games to have a semblance of depth and not be neutered to hell and back.
Alas, Hollywood Gaming. Not that Mass Effect 2 is bad, though. Far from it, but labeling ME2 an rpg is as lol as labeling games like Crackdown or Infamous or Assassin's Creed platformers. Just not happening.
Stop raging so hard over something as frivolous as genre categorization. Groo started a trollfest with that FF13 jab and you've bit every single time lol
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It ruined my enjoyment of the game for me. I bought the game expecting and rpg for the second time(the first time being ME1) and i got a FPS with rpg elements. But that is my fault fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me, fool me a third time wtf is wrong with me.
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Who cares if ME2 is an RPG or not? It's one of the best GAMES of the past year.
Yup. And it's also one of the best action-RPGs of the past year!
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Everything is being melted together.
Why does that have to be a bad thing? I don't really see the drawback of games deriving the best elements from multiple genres, other than it makes it difficult for obsessive nerds like Himuro to apply restrictive labels to them. It's not as though a game that is partially derivative can't also be innovative
If you're just copying and pasting together a game, I doubt you can garner any creativity out of it. Makes games into Avatar, a market study of what sells all plastered together with high production. Doesn't push the media forward at all. Just further homogenizes it and erodes away the iconic flavor.
SSX3 for instance, mixed up open-world gameplay with snowboard gameplay it's famous for and that failed hard.
fixed
SSX3's merging of two games ended up killing the track designs and personality of Tricky, and still not realizing on what it promised. Every time you'd try to really go open world, jump off into that icy cavern... oh wait game resets you because its just a visual lie of open space.
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Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games of this entire generation, and poops on haters everywhere.
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Someone slandered SSX3? Sacrilege!
If someone slanders Tricky I will also be decidedly perturbed.
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I swear, ever since I was old enough to read the Internet, there has never been a shortage of, "Older games from my youth were better/more creative". You guys :lol
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Everything is being melted together.
Why does that have to be a bad thing? I don't really see the drawback of games deriving the best elements from multiple genres, other than it makes it difficult for obsessive nerds like Himuro to apply restrictive labels to them. It's not as though a game that is partially derivative can't also be innovative
If you're just copying and pasting together a game, I doubt you can garner any creativity out of it. Makes games into Avatar, a market study of what sells all plastered together with high production. Doesn't push the media forward at all. Just further homogenizes it and erodes away the iconic flavor.
But there's a difference between an uninspired cut-and-paste job and an ingenious blend of several great aspects from separate genres. Besides, such a trend doesn't mean that the industry is creatively bankrupt (or heading there) when there are still plenty of wholly original (and good!) games being developed.
It's probably safe to say that I was the last person here to join the generation, so I totally get where you're coming from, but I don't think there is much credence to the idea that the industry is in a perpetual state of insipidity. I stopped believing that as soon as I really started gaming again.
Now, whether or not today's games are as engaging is a different story
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Himuro sucks ass now. Infamous does not let you roleplay anywhere near as much as ME2, and you could probably make a case for Zelda being some RPG hybrid. Good/evil decisions are not roleplaying, complex dialogue trees with consequences are.
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He's been trolling for awhile now.
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yea, he's useless.
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Trolls trolling trolls? Never thought I'd see the day on EB
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The whole "I gave away my Xbox lol" a few weeks ago was a dead giveaway.
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So basically we should all ignore Himu and nostalgia.
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One of the first rites of passage when you become a PC gamer is to become insufferable and tell everybody how lame the console games they play are. :smug
If you 360 gamers can't stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen!
Preach it Himuro!!
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One of the first rites of passage when you become a PC gamer is to become insufferable and tell everybody how lame the console games they play are. :smug
If you 360 gamers can't stand the heat then stay out of the kitchen!
Preach it Himuro!!
Nothing wrong with letting the plebs know that they are playing on the inferior platform. :smug
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I'm looking at this IGN best of decade thing, and if this is what is being sold to people, then I'm not surprised that people are depressed about the current state of gaming. Apparently Knights of the Old Republic is the third best game of the 2000s right behind Shadow of the Colossus. Also, The Dark Knight is the best movie of the 2000s, followed by Return of the King, Casino Royale, and Spider-Man 2, and Avatar. Bravo, IGN.
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1. The Dark Knight
2. The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
3. Casino Royale
4. Spider-Man 2
5. Avatar
6. Batman Begins
7. The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the King
8. Almost Famous
9. 300
10. Spider-Man
1. Half-Life 2
2. Shadow of the Colossus
3. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
4. Grand Theft Auto III
5. Super Mario Galaxy
6. Counter-Strike
7. Fallout 3
8. Okami
9. Battlefield 1942
10. Uncharted 2
:rofl
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If there isn't a pointless stat for Luck then it isn't an RPG :smug
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Overly debating opinions is meh.
IGN has their list. 50 others would have their list. I would have my list. etc, etc.
What it does matter. Its no more important or no more silly, or no more contentious than any list that anybody else would come up with. In 5 years they will have another list and it will completely forgot everything on this list. Nothing to see here.
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If there isn't a pointless stat for Luck then it isn't an RPG :smug
:lol
I don't think I've put a single point into luck in any RPG I've ever played.
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Luck typically affects crit, does it not?
:bow Crit :bow2
I had something like 38% crit on my gladiator rogue in WoW -- in PvP gear! Yeah, I was a badass
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Overly debating opinions is meh.
IGN has their list. 50 others would have their list. I would have my list. etc, etc.
What it does matter. Its no more important or no more silly, or no more contentious than any list that anybody else would come up with. In 5 years they will have another list and it will complete forgot everything on this list. Nothing to see here.
I don't think anyone seriously cares (like no one seriously cares about stingy genre classifications). It's just good for a laugh. This IGN list is just better because it's a collective choice.
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I don't think anyone seriously cares (like no one seriously cares about stingy genre classifications). It's just good for a laugh. This IGN list is just better because it's a collective choice.
Oh I know. And I often post Entertainment Weekly lists that I find especially silly myself so its not like I don't do the same.
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That list is horrible.
(p.s. fuck you dcharlie, Spidey 2 is awesome! Not Top 10 awesome, but awesome nevertheless!)
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If there isn't a pointless stat for Luck then it isn't an RPG :smug
:lol
I don't think I've put a single point into luck in any RPG I've ever played.
Strength: kill things faster
Defence: live longer and avoid boring reloading
Charisma: make everyone do what you want and get shit for free
Luck: has a subtle effect on everything
Yep, tough choice guys.
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That IGN movie list is AMAZING.
They even managed to get movies from the same series' backwards within their own list (except Spiderman 2 which I never saw cos the first was so shit so I don't know about that).
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Third one is awful. I mean, I like Spidey 2, but I don't think I'd put it in any legitimate top whatever list. That list is the reason I hate the Internet.
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That IGN movie list is AMAZING.
They even managed to get movies from the same series' backwards within their own list (except Spiderman 2 which I never saw cos the first was so shit so I don't know about that).
The ones for each year are just as good
Remember 2007 when people were all about No Country For Old Men and There Will Be blood while others praised Zodiac? IGN has the real scoop: 300 > Ratatouille > the rest of them.
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Good lord. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but for a "professional" site to put out things like this is really unfathomable.
PS: I bought Zodiac the other day. :bow me
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I dug up that thread we had on fave films of the decade: http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32519.45
The only post that comes close to IGN is this one:
1. Drag Me to Hell
2. Spider-Man 2
3. Spider-Man 1
4. The Gift
5. Dawn of the Dead
6. 300
7. Bay Boys II
8. Transformers
9. Watchmen
10. Kill Bill
:rofl IGN
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I'm sorry guys, I didn't know IGN editorial staff lurks here. :-\
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good jon admin.
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I'm sorry guys, I didn't know IGN editorial staff lurks here. :-\
:lol
Hey IGN, I hate to break it to you, but you suck. How about you spend $10 million on a site reboot?
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That site is a mess now. I can't even navigate it. I rely on this forum for all my IGN news feeds.
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Yea, I tried to go on IGN the other day to get my fiance their Mass Effect 1 recap video (which sucked) and I could not find my way around for shit. Horrible site.
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That site is a mess now. I can't even navigate it. I rely on this forum for all my IGN news feeds.
But if we're all relying on this forum for IGN news feeds then who's the poor sucker visiting IGN?
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IGN list isn't really bad. It's just missing RE4.
And no Halo on the list = GOOD LIST
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If ME2 is the future of rpgs, rpgs are dead.
:bow The death of the RPG :bow2