GM and Chrysler have to be jizzing in their pants. Ford wasn't in TOO bad of shape, so they're probably able to afford hookers to jizz into.
They've had to fight the stigma of being a foreign car manufacturer for decades, I don't see how having practically every car you manufacturer being recalled for accelerator or brake issues will be a fuzzy memory for most Americans.
If anyone is going to gain from this, it will be other foreign car companies like Hyundai and Honda. People that have owned a Toyota for the past 12 years aren't going to go flocking back to Ford or GM.
So has anyone actually died because of this fault? Or is this another typical American media scare story designed to keep us frightened of foreign things? :smug x ∞
yes, and ford's still in businessAnyone claiming that Toyota won't still be in business?
"self-destruct"
Lol Toyota is still turning a profit this year, unlike their competition.Many car companies, including Ford, are profitable. And Toyota's last earnings period occurred well before the recalls. There's no guarantee it will remain profitable.
The sincere and heartfelt apology of the Toyota CEO created heaps of goodwill too I bet.:lol
I will probably buy a Ford this year.
:bow Ford
Toyota failing at reliability is like Volvo having spikes in their airbags, it hits them at their most perceived strength.I agree, but I think silver actually acts as a catalytic converter.
now Hondas, those things are frikin tanks I tells ya. You have shoot a silver bullet through their catalytic converter to stop them.
The sincere and heartfelt apology of the Toyota CEO created heaps of goodwill too I bet.
If anyone is going to gain from this, it will be other foreign car companies like Hyundai and Honda. People that have owned a Toyota for the past 12 years aren't going to go flocking back to Ford or GM..
Never going back American since we had a Dodge Chrysler Minivan in 93 that broke down 2 weeks after purchase. Fuck. That.
you have a bike?
If anyone is going to gain from this, it will be other foreign car companies like Hyundai and Honda. People that have owned a Toyota for the past 12 years aren't going to go flocking back to Ford or GM.
Never going back American since we had a Dodge Chrysler Minivan in 93 that broke down 2 weeks after purchase. Fuck. That.
It's also twenty-two years old!
Forget about Honda if you want a stick shift.
Also the fall from grace is pretty amazing. My wife's 2001 Corolla has 120,000 miles on it and the only thing we have EVER had to do outside routine maintenance was replace the clutch, and that wasn't really the car's fault. It was San Francisco's.
Ford shit worthWatch it, buddy! You're on thin fucking ice.
The absolutely scariest thing is that the local news channel has showed videos instructing drivers on how to stop a vehicle. In part because it's fucking amazing that people don't already know this, and in part because it demonstrates that Americans are lametards who can't drive stick.Also this.
:bow Motorcycles :bow2
I had my throttle cable snap last year while I was riding (to the airport to catch a trans-Atlantic flight no less). I think I'd rather be in a car when it breaks down.
Thanks for the advice, cager.
I'm not sure how exactly the tenor changed so abruptly, but it's kind of crazy. and of course China is ultimately to blame - Japanese-manufactured Toyotas are fine, and the problem is due to Chinese contractors cutting corners
Damn, you even import your cars. :omg
How would one check before buying anything be it car or HD TV that this model was assembled in Japan and not in :piss China?
Ford seemed to turnaround as soon as I left.
Coincidence? I think not.
I'm not sure why everyone thinks that the public is going to suddenly love Fords. I would buy a Honda/Hyundai or lease a Volkswagen before I bothered getting an American car.
I would buy a Honda/Hyundai or lease a Volkswagen before I bothered getting an American car.Do you enjoy subsidizing accelerated depreciation?
FOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD! :american
My favorite is my 4x4 F 150. Take that fucker off roading. It's a fucking beast.
Also, the 4.6l block that has been in the Mustang GT's for awhile (until the 2011 model, it goes back to 5.0). Those fucking motors are rock fucking solid. Fords are just generally tough fuckers. Compared to Chevy's, they might not always be as purty or have as much HP, but it sure as hell beats a Chevy when it's still running 10 years later ;)
My favorite is my 4x4 F 150. Take that fucker off roading. It's a fucking beast.
Also, the 4.6l block that has been in the Mustang GT's for awhile (until the 2011 model, it goes back to 5.0). Those fucking motors are rock fucking solid. Fords are just generally tough fuckers. Compared to Chevy's, they might not always be as purty or have as much HP, but it sure as hell beats a Chevy when it's still running 10 years later ;)
QuoteIt's a vicious circle, I know, but TV is making dumb people is making TV is making dumb people blah blah blah. Shame on us for letting this happen, but it's gonna be a hard thing to reverse now
tangent : but i watched the BBC news for some time yesterday for the first time in an age and i was stunned by the level of stupidity.
The usually serious news paper section focused on one article : Bradjalina or whatever
followed by an article on how women can still get pregnant at 40, so you should still use condoms.
As Groo says... dumb tv for dumb people.
FOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD! :american
:punch built ford tough :punch
my fusion ain't had no recalls
:patel
QuoteIt's a vicious circle, I know, but TV is making dumb people is making TV is making dumb people blah blah blah. Shame on us for letting this happen, but it's gonna be a hard thing to reverse now
tangent : but i watched the BBC news for some time yesterday for the first time in an age and i was stunned by the level of stupidity.
The usually serious news paper section focused on one article : Bradjalina or whatever
followed by an article on how women can still get pregnant at 40, so you should still use condoms.
As Groo says... dumb tv for dumb people.
Goddamn right! :punch :punchFOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD! :american
:punch built ford tough :punch
my fusion ain't had no recalls
:patel
Yeah, the motor is also used in some light trucks. Ford has had it for a while and it's just a solid fucking design.My favorite is my 4x4 F 150. Take that fucker off roading. It's a fucking beast.
Also, the 4.6l block that has been in the Mustang GT's for awhile (until the 2011 model, it goes back to 5.0). Those fucking motors are rock fucking solid. Fords are just generally tough fuckers. Compared to Chevy's, they might not always be as purty or have as much HP, but it sure as hell beats a Chevy when it's still running 10 years later ;)
That motor was used in way more then just the mustang. I had a thunderbird with that motor. Awesome motor. I still think the Yamaha motor in my SHO was way more kick ass.
The sad thing is... American news is EXPONENTIALLY DUMBER. It's true, I watch BBC America on PBS a couple times a week and it makes me feel sad to be an American.Yeah, I really fucking hate this. NPR does pretty good too (in spite of their Dante's Inferno game piece that I heard yesterday :yuck)
The sad thing is... American news is EXPONENTIALLY DUMBER. It's true, I watch BBC America on PBS a couple times a week and it makes me feel sad to be an American.Yeah, I really fucking hate this. NPR does pretty good too (in spite of their Dante's Inferno game piece that I heard yesterday :yuck)
FORD = Fix Or Repair DailyDale: You know what Ford stands for dontcha? Fix it again, Tony.
I realize this is a huge recall, but did the media ever go after the other car makers like this on previous recalls? Everyone seems really happy to stick it to Toyota. Can't really blame them, though, we'd do anything to help boost our economy right now.
There is way too much Ford love in this thread. I owned a Ford for 6 years and wouldn't even consider giving Fords the praise you guys do. :yuck
There is way too much Ford love in this thread. I owned a Ford for 6 years and wouldn't even consider giving Fords the praise you guys do. :yuck
Serious, this is the only place I've heard Ford praise.
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There is way too much Ford love in this thread. I owned a Ford for 6 years (with that 4.6L engine you were jacking off over) and wouldn't even consider giving Fords the praise you guys do. :yuckSounds like an operator error :teehee
There is way too much Ford love in this thread. I owned a Ford for 6 years (with that 4.6L engine you were jacking off over) and wouldn't even consider giving Fords the praise you guys do. :yuck
Edit your post to include my edit!
You aren't Texan if you've never driven in a Ford truck before.Well they seem to have poor ergonomics but my only other experience with a truck was with a Tundra though so..
Ford 4 lyfe
If by operator you mean plastic intake manifold.Meh.
:piss Ford :piss2
My F 150 Lariat is comfy as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuYou aren't Texan if you've never driven in a Ford truck before.Well they seem to have poor ergonomics but my only other experience with a truck was with a Tundra though so..
Ford 4 lyfe
and also don't you drive a buick?
I think they're idling them so workers are still getting paid.I realize this is a huge recall, but did the media ever go after the other car makers like this on previous recalls? Everyone seems really happy to stick it to Toyota. Can't really blame them, though, we'd do anything to help boost our economy right now.
Aren't they mostly shutting down operations in the US, though? It might be good for GM or some shit, but major businesses closing down plants ain't great.
Yeah, Ford's street cred is going up.:bow
You aren't Texan if you've never driven in a Ford truck before.Well they seem to have poor ergonomics but my only other experience with a truck was with a Tundra though so..
Ford 4 lyfe
and also don't you drive a buick?
I drive a Buick but that doesn't mean I haven't had experience with Ford. Most of the cars my family has ever owned are Ford.well my bad then.
Looks like another WACKY JAPPY manufacturer is having a recall. This time it's Honda. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100210/ap_on_bi_ge/us_honda_recall)well Hyundai is cool. improved a lot in the last decade.
If this keeps up, Hyundai is gonna end up at the top of the class!
You know Hyundai is Korean, right?spoiler (click to show/hide)So are LG and Samsung.[close]
Did anyone even own a Daewoo car in North America? :lolI've seen an actual Daewoo dealership on American soil.
I also love my Corolla. And I'm going to keep it until it's worth something again.
Law enforcement involvement in the near-catastrophe began when a driver reported to the CHP that his blue Toyota Prius was accelerating uncontrollably and he was unable to turn off the vehicle or shift into neutral. The driver reportedly traveled at speeds over 90 miles per hour while covering approximately 30 miles, according to new details.
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Sikes also told reporters that he had visited Toyota of El Cajon – a nearby dealership – but was told his vehicle was not included in the recent recalls and no services were performed.
The latest victim wasn’t so lucky, though, slamming her out of control 2005 Prius into a stone wall.
According to the latest reports, a 56-year old woman experienced sudden unintended acceleration in her 2005 Toyota Prius when she was exiting a drive in Harrison, New York on Tuesday. Her Prius “shot” across the street, plowing into a stone wall. The woman was injured and taken to a local hospital, but her injuries were reportedly non-life threatening.
Police are still investigating the incident, but it doesn’t appear as though faulty floor mats are to blame – the 2005 Prius in question had received its recall service, with the floor mats still zip-tied to the front seat when police arrived. No word on what might have caused the Prius to accelerate wildly.