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Title: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 06:48:19 PM: (http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/10/gabourey.sidibe.career/t1larg.jpg)
Gabourey Sidibe - large and in charge.

Can talent outweigh size in Hollywood?

CNN) -- Not even a full week has passed since Gabourey Sidibe attended the 82nd Annual Academy Awards as a best actress nominee and we're already questioning whether her career is over.

Despite the accolades bestowed upon the actress in the past few months, it's unclear if the film industry can go against the norm and cast a young woman who is not only African-American, but also larger than the Hollywood standard in a non-niche role, as the romantic lead in a major film vehicle, for example.

During Howard Stern's Sirius satellite show on Monday morning, co-host Robin Quivers commented that Sidibe should have looked around at the Oscars and noticed that none of the other working actresses looked like her.

"What movie could she play in?" Stern questioned on his live broadcast. "You feel bad because everyone pretends that she's part of show business, and she's never going to be in another movie."

The comments made on Stern's show sparked a heated debate among moviegoers and industry observers, with some believing the shock-jock was simply saying what everyone else is thinking.

Jeffrey Wells :rock , a columnist who's lent his candid perspective on the industry to a variety of outlets over the years and now blogs about it on HollywoodElsewhere.com, said in an e-mail, "Gabby is a lovely person and a fine actress, but the hard fact is that she's way, way too fat," adding that the actress will suffer from health problems as well as limited career opportunities if she doesn't lose weight.

"I don't want Gabby to not work, but the only roles she'll have a shot at playing will be down-market moms and hard-luck girls working at Wal-Mart," Wells continued. "No casting director would choose her to play anyone in the upscale executive world ... because no one in the executive world looks like her."

Robert Ulrich of Ulrich, Dawson and Kritzer casting, acknowledged that "every role will not be open to her," but thinks now more than ever, directors and producers are interested in seeing something different than what's written on the page.

"We hear over and over to think outside the box. I've been in the industry a long time, and it's never been as open to people being something different than now," Ulrich said. "I work on 'Glee,' and those actors never would have been cast on network television a few years ago. It's a show about diversity, and it's a hit."

The thing about Sidibe, casting directors said, is that aside from the irresistible charm, wit and confidence she exhibits in interviews, which certainly don't hurt her prospects, she's a remarkable talent. The 26-year-old, who was born in Brooklyn, New York, displayed an irrefutable amount of it in "Precious," and her performance becomes more mind-boggling when one learns that her resume previously contained just two small parts in college plays.

"That was an incredibly difficult role," said Rachel Tenner, a casting director for best picture nominee "A Serious Man."

"And from what I know of Sidibe, she's not from that world. This [character] wasn't something she knew, and she tapped into something pretty dark." Having already had critics rave about her dramatic ability will work in her favor, Tenner said. "I know for myself, good is good, great is great, and as a casting director, that's what I want."

Tenner is right that Sidibe is as far removed from the film's lead character as one can be, a fact that has been hammered home repeatedly since the movie opened to highlight Sidibe's acting ability.

As Sapphire, the author of the novel "Push" that "Precious" is based on, put it during an interview with CBS News' Katie Couric last fall, it's not like they used a girl who has a story similar to the lead character, where they could simply put her on camera and tell her to think about her mother and cry.

"This girl is a real actress," Sapphire said. Typically, she added, "when we do have an actress that looks like her, she's the comic character or the old woman or something, [but] we have a heavy, dark-skinned black woman as the star of the show."

Tenner insisted that the star power Sidibe showed in "Precious" will be enough to help her push past the presumptions about what type of role she can and cannot play.

"Obviously, there aren't a million parts made for her," Tenner said. "Do I read 50 movies a year that are for her physicality? No. But, there are a lot of directors who appreciate the work that she did, and that may help her get considered for roles that are not written for her."

Thus far Sidibe's skill has snagged her a role in a Sundance Lab film, "Yelling to the Sky," where she portrays a popular high school bully.

"I'm excited that anyone could take a look at ['Precious'] and think I could play Miss Popularity," Sidibe told film critic Roger Ebert in November, adding that she understands full well the box Hollywood would like to put her in.

"I kind of was Miss Popularity back in junior high," she told Ebert, "except Hollywood would never peg me as Miss Popularity, so I guess I'm playing against type."

On Tuesday, Showtime confirmed that Sidibe has a recurring role in a half-hour dark comedy called "The Big C," starring Laura Linney, where Sidibe will yet again tap into her inner teenager to portray a troubled student.

"The Big C's" executive producer, Vivian Cannon, said Sidibe was asked to come in after word began to spread of her "Precious" performance at the Sundance Film Festival.

When Sidibe read for the role, "she blew everyone away," Cannon said. "She had great comedic timing. Gabby can play whatever she wants to play -- she's that good. I'm hard-pressed to see anyone else like her."

"Crash" and "Iron Man" casting director Randi Hiller agreed that Sidibe's reputation as a talent to be reckoned with, complete with best actress nomination, will help open doors that would normally be closed to her because of the way she looks.

"Getting cast is never easy. You can ask any actor, they lose jobs every single day that have nothing to do with talent," Hiller said. "Sidibe will have those same problems, but it may not be as hard for her because she already has an Oscar nomination."

Nikki Blonsky, the plus-size actress who generated plenty of buzz when she starred in 2007's "Hairspray," has been painted as the poster-child for the reality of the industry; an example of what happens to talented actresses who aren't the physical ideal.

But Hiller believes it could be different for Sidibe because of the way she's made a name for herself as a dramatic actress. "With 'Hairspray,' it didn't have as much of an arc as 'Precious,' " Hiller said. "Blonsky was great in it, but it didn't require the level of acting that Gabby had to reach."

To Hiller, the problem isn't that there aren't any roles suited for Sidibe in particular, but the lack of parts for any kind of woman. "There will be 135 roles for men and then six for women. There are so few roles for women in general, regardless of race or size," she said.

In the end, Hiller said she believes Sidibe's career will be dictated most not by the number on the scale but the number of people buying tickets to see her films.

"The trend, quite honestly, is driven by the box office," Hiller said. "It depends on whether or not people turn out to see those movies."

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Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on March 11, 2010, 06:55:56 PM: Tyler Perry movies, maybe?
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: OptimoPeach on March 11, 2010, 06:59:23 PM: She'll be forgotten by next year like everything else Oprah latches on to

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Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 11, 2010, 07:00:19 PM: She is too black for Hollywood ;)
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 07:02:36 PM: Added a poll to get EB's reactions to Gabourey's dilemma.

TBH, I don't think Stern was wrong. Totally over the top about it, of course, but not wrong. At best, this girl will be relegated to supporting roles for the rest of her career. More likely, she'll do a couple of more projects and then leave the business completely because she can't find any work. What's more, this girl goes well beyond just being chubby. She's a frickin' sumo wrestler.

More words of wisdom from genius writer Jeffrey Wells:

"I loved Gabby's smile and vibe and I don't want her to not work, but the only roles she'll have a shot at playing will be downmarket moms and hard-luck girls working at Wal-mart -- that line of country. Unless she drops the tonnage she's facing a very limited future as an actress. No casting director would choose her to play anyone in the upscale executive world because -- hello? -- no one in the executive world looks like her. No casting director would choose her to play a gym teacher, or a big-wave surfer, or a Washington lobbyist, or a U.S. Congresswoman, or a park ranger, or a fire-fighter, or a soldier (I've never seen morbidly obese women in uniform...have you?) or a saleswoman in an apparel shop (no woman would trust her sartorial judgment), or a narcotics detective.

"Could she even play a cab driver? Could a person of her proportion even fit behind the wheel of an average cab? I'm just asking.

(fuckin' harsh :rofl)

"Gabby is as out of the realm of mainstream normality as a seven foot-tall giant or a wheelchair person with polio. She will have serious health problems later in life if she doesn't lose about half her body weight, at least. Whether we like to hear this or not, she represents a kind of low-rent affliction and a pattern of self-destruction.

"And you're not doing Gabby any favors by coddling her with approving profiles and patting her on the back and saying 'you go, girl' -- she's got a serious problem. And you're also telling other morbidly obese young women that it's okay to be that way. It's not -- it's bad for the health. Only in a country like ours in which the population is as addicted to crappy fatty foods as heroin addicts are to the needle."
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2010, 07:05:56 PM: My father and I were talking about this when we were watching the oscars.

Unless that girl loses some weight her career is over. Sad, but true.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2010, 07:09:19 PM: i find it funny that a lot of the same people who were hoisting stern onto their shoulders as a hero when he went after leno are now turning him into some kind of villain for basically telling the truth here

stern says whatever he thinks will provoke the biggest reaction at any given point in time (he was saying nbc was stupid for giving o'brien the tonight show a week before he started going after leno)

this was stern-lite, he didn't even really make fun of her
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 07:09:49 PM: And I agree with Stern in that it's cruel of Oprah to even pretend Gabourey Sidibe has a future in Hollywood. She's building up the kid's hopes and they're going to come crashing down.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on March 11, 2010, 07:12:09 PM: Jesus dude, she looks like Mark Henry from the WWF
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Post by: Himu on March 11, 2010, 07:12:33 PM: how do you even pronounce her name?

Gab-

Gab...

Gaburnay...

Sidabe...

Change the name, honey! Hollywood only accepts exotic or American names!
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2010, 07:12:47 PM: Quote from: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on March 11, 2010, 07:12:09 PM
Jesus dude, she looks like Mark Henry from the WWF

:lol :lol :lol :lol

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tTZIkPeMpRs/SS-sWcsVgbI/AAAAAAAAAks/exnBiPa0Lec/s400/mark_henry.jpg)
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 07:13:05 PM: Quote from: Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich on March 11, 2010, 07:12:09 PM
Jesus dude, she looks like Mark Henry from the WWF

So you're saying she's sexual chocolate? :drool
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2010, 07:14:31 PM: remember when oprah trotted out that wagon full of fat representing all the weight she'd lost?

i do

bubububu it's okay to constantly be in danger of breaking your leg if you step off the curb the wrong way, positive self-image how can people be so cruel

oprah should have hooked her up with a trainer
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 07:15:58 PM: Quote from: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2010, 07:14:31 PM
remember when oprah trotted out that wagon full of fat representing all the weight she'd lost?

I don't remember that particular Gabourey Sidibe TV appearance, no.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2010, 07:16:45 PM: I hate Oprah. I kinda respect her but I hate her.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 07:18:27 PM: If Sidibe keeps going this way she's going to end up in a wheelchair like Harry Knowles (who shattered the bones in his leg just from standing up because he was so fat).
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 11, 2010, 07:24:32 PM: Stern dominating the news cycle :smug

we need to have a discussion on the dilemma of overweight black women
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 07:26:09 PM: She said her dress would be the money shot? omfg :rofl
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2010, 07:26:16 PM: [youtube=560,345]-cx7czRfkA8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 11, 2010, 07:33:18 PM: Quote from: Green Man on March 11, 2010, 07:31:23 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 07:26:09 PM
She said her dress would be the money shot? omfg :rofl

Look at this shit:

http://jezebel.com/5487789/gabby-sidibe-calls-her-dress-the-money-shot-wants-to-work-with-tina-fey

TUBBY MCGOO!

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Gabby Sidibe's as quotable as ever. "If fashion was porn, this dress would be the foreskin"

Fixed :tbslol
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2010, 07:33:42 PM: from the comments in that link:

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In my dream world, I'm friends with Gabby and she teaches me how to be cool. Think Cher and Dee in Clueless teaching Britney Murphy the social mores of high school. High School boys = tha not.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: drew on March 11, 2010, 07:37:42 PM: howard stern :heartbeat :heart
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2010, 07:41:52 PM: Quote from: Green Man on March 11, 2010, 07:39:52 PM
Her weight will seriously limit her ability to breathe while sleeping

fixt
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 11, 2010, 07:41:58 PM: It's difficult. I lived in a household with three other people, we ate all the same foods and I'm the only one that's fat. My brother is rail thin. It got worse when I left home.

I'm only losing weight now because I monitor every ounce of food that goes into my body. I wish I could eat like my brother, my mother, etc.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2010, 07:42:32 PM: Being fat sucks.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 11, 2010, 07:47:48 PM: It's an interesting subject because many overweight people have self esteem problems, so when an overweight person becomes popular they often talk a lot about feeling good about being yourself, not changing to appeal to other people, etc. A universal message that's normally positive, but is it harmful in this case given the health risks involved with being so morbidly obese? Monique has been saying for years that being "big" is ok. I don't think it's disrespectful or mean to suggest being fat is not ok, and in fact is quite dangerous.

I'm not saying they should purge themselves until they're super skinny but come on. All that fat is putting extra pressure on her heart, especially as an actress/performer. Not a good thing.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 11, 2010, 07:50:06 PM: i like a gal with curves, but when their titties end at their shoulder blades...
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 11, 2010, 07:51:14 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 11, 2010, 07:47:48 PM
It's an interesting subject because many overweight people have self esteem problems, so when an overweight person becomes popular they often talk a lot about feeling good about being yourself, not changing to appeal to other people, etc. A universal message that's normally positive, but is it harmful in this case given the health risks involved with being so morbidly obese? Monique has been saying for years that being "big" is ok. I don't think it's disrespectful or mean to suggest being fat is not ok, and in fact is quite dangerous.

I'm not saying they should purge themselves until they're super skinny but come on. All that fat is putting extra pressure on her heart, especially as an actress/performer. Not a good thing.

I hate Monique.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 11, 2010, 07:53:25 PM: Would she be good looking if she lost the weight though? Maybe being fat is the only thing that she has going for her? :smug
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: cool breeze on March 11, 2010, 08:10:43 PM: She will hit it big time when I give James Cameron my draft of Pootie Tang 2. The plan is for Avatar 2 to be 10 minutes long following a 180 minute trailer.
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Post by: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 08:17:16 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 07:02:36 PM
No casting director would choose her to play a ... narcotics detective.

I don't know, I've seen one or two....
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 09:44:32 PM: I wasn't the one who said that, though...just a quote from Jeffrey Wells :rock

And FWIW, though there may be tons of fatties on the force irl, I don't think I've ever seen one play a cop in any crime drama filmed after the '70s.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on March 11, 2010, 09:54:42 PM: ^
The homicide sergeant that's always looking at porn in The Wire
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 10:02:57 PM: I'm talking about movies tho....and pretty sure that homicide sergeant isn't the lead of the show, but just a secondary character, which is the type of role Sidibe is going to end up relegated to, at best.
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Post by: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 10:18:31 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
I wasn't the one who said that, though...just a quote from Jeffrey Wells :rock

Uh, yeah, I'm aware of that, Ichi.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Draft on March 11, 2010, 10:18:58 PM: She's too fat to be a human being.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 10:22:37 PM: Quote from: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
I wasn't the one who said that, though...just a quote from Jeffrey Wells :rock

Uh, yeah, I'm aware of that, Ichi.

I wasn't aware that you were aware.
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Post by: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 10:23:29 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
I wasn't the one who said that, though...just a quote from Jeffrey Wells :rock

Uh, yeah, I'm aware of that, Ichi.

I wasn't aware that you were aware.

well, now you are.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 10:24:45 PM: Quote from: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 10:23:29 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 10:22:37 PM
Quote from: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 10:18:31 PM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
I wasn't the one who said that, though...just a quote from Jeffrey Wells :rock

Uh, yeah, I'm aware of that, Ichi.

I wasn't aware that you were aware.

well, now you are.

Now I'm aware that I wasn't aware that you were aware.
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Post by: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 10:32:55 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 10:24:45 PM
Quote from: Boogie on March 11, 2010, 10:23:29 PM
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Quote from: Ichirou on March 11, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
I wasn't the one who said that, though...just a quote from Jeffrey Wells :rock

Uh, yeah, I'm aware of that, Ichi.

I wasn't aware that you were aware.

well, now you are.

Now I'm aware that I wasn't aware that you were aware.

And truly, that is half the battle...

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Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: TripleA on March 11, 2010, 10:42:31 PM: The real question is, if she loses the weight will she be a superstar?

How many african american actresses can you seriously call 'superstars' ?
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 11, 2010, 10:45:24 PM: Beyonce :smug
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Post by: TripleA on March 11, 2010, 10:48:14 PM: Quote from: Fresh Prince on March 11, 2010, 10:45:24 PM
Beyonce :smug

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actresses
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Post by: Fresh Prince on March 11, 2010, 11:01:58 PM: But she acts hence the smug face.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 12:54:30 AM: Halle Berry is the only female black actress I would call a superstar, and even she is strictly B-list.
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Post by: TripleA on March 12, 2010, 12:55:59 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 12:54:30 AM
Halle Berry is the only female black actress I would call a superstar, and even she is strictly B-list.

So perhaps her weight isn't her biggest obstacle to stardom.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 01:04:21 AM: No, it's definitely her BIGGEST obstacle to stardom. :lol
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2010, 01:54:03 AM: Halle Berry is the only one, and it wouldn't be hard to argue she's technically not a superstar actress since her films aren't enormous hits anyway.

It's hard for black actresses to make a dent on Hollywood. I don't see how an obese black actress will have an easier time, no matter how good she is at her craft
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: TripleA on March 12, 2010, 02:01:45 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2010, 01:54:03 AM
Halle Berry is the only one, and it wouldn't be hard to argue she's technically not a superstar actress since her films aren't enormous hits anyway.

It's hard for black actresses to make a dent on Hollywood. I don't see how an obese black actress will have an easier time, no matter how good she is at her craft

Bingo.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: etiolate on March 12, 2010, 03:35:12 AM: I don't see why she has to be a classic romantic lead to be a legit star. There is plenty of need for different sorts of romantic characters. She doesn't have to be Julia Roberts or Drop Dead Diva.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2010, 03:42:17 AM: Quote from: etiolate on March 12, 2010, 03:35:12 AM
I don't see why she has to be a classic romantic lead to be a legit star. There is plenty of need for different sorts of romantic characters. She doesn't have to be Julia Roberts or Drop Dead Diva.

what the fuck are you talking about? Romance roles? What the fuck. How about ANY lead role?
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Post by: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 03:47:07 AM: Himuro, be honest - would you fuck her?

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Post by: Himu on March 12, 2010, 03:47:51 AM: Fuck no.
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Post by: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 03:49:02 AM: I probably would.
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Post by: etiolate on March 12, 2010, 04:02:31 AM: Quote from: Himuro on March 12, 2010, 03:42:17 AM
Quote from: etiolate on March 12, 2010, 03:35:12 AM
I don't see why she has to be a classic romantic lead to be a legit star. There is plenty of need for different sorts of romantic characters. She doesn't have to be Julia Roberts or Drop Dead Diva.

what the fuck are you talking about? Romance roles? What the fuck. How about ANY lead role?

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Despite the accolades bestowed upon the actress in the past few months, it's unclear if the film industry can go against the norm and cast a young woman who is not only African-American, but also larger than the Hollywood standard in a non-niche role, as the romantic lead in a major film vehicle, for example.

The question sort of is "can she fit into generic roles?" and my response was "why should she?" My avatar is an actress that doesn't have the issue of Gabourey, but she found her way through 'niche' roles and is now a star. Why does Gabourey have to legitimize herself by taking Julia Roberts roles?
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2010, 04:10:17 AM: what type of roles could she get in your opinion
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Post by: Donono on March 12, 2010, 04:13:14 AM: Jonah Hill is a fat fuck and he still gets work.

Maybe she should go comedy.
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Post by: etiolate on March 12, 2010, 04:16:05 AM: Hrm, I don't know how good of an actress she is and what she can get depends on what she can pull off with her ability.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: brawndolicious on March 12, 2010, 04:16:24 AM: Quote from: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 12:54:30 AM
Halle Berry is the only female black actress I would call a superstar, and even she is strictly B-list.
what about rosario dawson?

and queen latifah is a little chubby but she still gets roles.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2010, 04:22:21 AM: Quote from: Donono on March 12, 2010, 04:13:14 AM
Jonah Hill is a fat fuck and he still gets work.

Maybe she should go comedy.

horrible analogy. different expectations for actresses vs actors
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Donono on March 12, 2010, 04:37:17 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2010, 04:22:21 AM
Quote from: Donono on March 12, 2010, 04:13:14 AM
Jonah Hill is a fat fuck and he still gets work.

Maybe she should go comedy.

horrible analogy. different expectations for actresses vs actors

well maybe she should grow a penis and become a comedian then
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: GilloD on March 12, 2010, 06:02:28 AM: GUIDEDBY COVECES DRUNBK QOTES

CUT WITH EXACTO
(omg yt is so hard(

GONE IS ALL GOOD

EX POST FACTO
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: ManaByte on March 12, 2010, 07:53:47 AM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2010, 04:10:17 AM
what type of roles could she get in your opinion

The lead role in Disneys upcoming Live Action remake of Dumbo.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 08:15:46 AM: Quote from: am nintenho on March 12, 2010, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 12:54:30 AM
Halle Berry is the only female black actress I would call a superstar, and even she is strictly B-list.
what about rosario dawson?

and queen latifah is a little chubby but she still gets roles.

Rosario Dawson isn't black, she's a latina.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: bud on March 12, 2010, 08:34:29 AM: i'd do queen latifah
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: bud on March 12, 2010, 09:31:41 AM: she's fucking hot, but she has elephant feet. :-\

that reminds me: i need to see 25th hour again.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Tauntaun on March 12, 2010, 09:58:17 AM: Quote from: swaggaz on March 11, 2010, 08:10:43 PM
She will hit it big time when I give James Cameron my draft of Pootie Tang 2. The plan is for Avatar 2 to be 10 minutes long following a 180 minute trailer.

:bow

He gonna sign dat pitty! :pimp
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Brehvolution on March 12, 2010, 10:19:51 AM: Night school :smug
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 12, 2010, 01:15:21 PM: Quote from: Green Man on March 12, 2010, 10:13:29 AM
Wait a second, this chick is 26 years old? I thought she was a teenager (didn't Oprah say she skipped school to audition for the part)?

Acting school
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Rman on March 12, 2010, 01:49:51 PM: This girl actually worked with the theatre department at my college. She has a great voice as well.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Tauntaun on March 12, 2010, 02:29:27 PM: Quote from: mojovonio on March 12, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
Yeah, a great BUTT VOICE

FAAAAAAART

(http://www.animationplayhouse.com/peo-_dancer_old_dude.gif)
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: ManaByte on March 12, 2010, 02:31:44 PM: She didn't win the Oscar because the show producers were afraid the stage couldn't support her weight. True story.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Dickie Dee on March 12, 2010, 03:08:04 PM: I haven't gone through this thread but all I took from Stern is that he was pointing out that everyone was being all self-congratulatory about how wonderful they are to be accepting of this big fat black chick when they're just gonna drop her like a sack of potatoes in 3 months, a big fat sack of black potatoes.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Donono on March 12, 2010, 03:15:04 PM: now that I think about it, I really want to cast her as Dr. Jane Bowman in my 2001: A Space Odyssey remake.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Brehvolution on March 12, 2010, 03:19:14 PM: (http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2009/11/gabourey-ampas/gabourey-sidibe-ampas-governors-awards-04.jpg)
Sorry I couldn't find a smaller pic.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2010, 03:22:48 PM: Quote from: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 08:15:46 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on March 12, 2010, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 12:54:30 AM
Halle Berry is the only female black actress I would call a superstar, and even she is strictly B-list.
what about rosario dawson?

and queen latifah is a little chubby but she still gets roles.

Rosario Dawson isn't black, she's a latina.

shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: brawndolicious on March 12, 2010, 03:55:38 PM: Rosario Dawson is Puerto Rican, African, Cuban, Native-American, and Irish. but she LOOKS black which is all that matters when we're talking about the future a black actor has.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on March 12, 2010, 05:39:49 PM: that's quite an arm she's got going on there

she's like a reverse popeye
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: bud on March 12, 2010, 05:41:25 PM: she seems like a sweet girl.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2010, 05:41:54 PM: Quote from: bud on March 12, 2010, 05:41:25 PM
she seems like a sweet girl.

Probably got it from all the candy she ate.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: bud on March 12, 2010, 05:42:22 PM: smh
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Donono on March 12, 2010, 05:58:45 PM: yeah I remember seeing her on Conan a while back and thinking based on her there she seems pretty awesome to hang out with--really nice and funny.
also heard her interviewed on NPR once

so, personally, I hope she gets to stick around as a superstar
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: ManaByte on March 12, 2010, 07:09:53 PM: When does she go on trial for killing that trainer at Seaworld?
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 09:51:41 PM: Quote from: ManaByte on March 12, 2010, 07:09:53 PM
When does she go on trial for killing that trainer at Seaworld?

Oh fuck. :lol
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 12, 2010, 10:02:08 PM: Quote from: The Business on March 12, 2010, 06:11:56 PM
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID5967/images/gabourey.jpg)

wow
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 12, 2010, 10:02:41 PM: Gabourey Sidibe looks like flannel girl
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Flannel Boy on March 12, 2010, 10:02:54 PM: not really
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 10:19:39 PM: Imagine if you were in a plane crash in the middle of the Andes and you had to eat her and then wear her skin to keep warm.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Dickie Dee on March 12, 2010, 10:23:39 PM: "and I thought she smelled bad...from the outside"
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Ichirou on March 12, 2010, 10:43:16 PM: Empire Strikes Back jokes :lol

:bow Mamacint :bow2
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Himu on March 12, 2010, 10:46:50 PM: Quote from: The Business on March 12, 2010, 06:11:56 PM
(http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID5967/images/gabourey.jpg)

(http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/m/markhenry/29.jpg)
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Diunx on March 12, 2010, 10:50:04 PM: She looks like a character in an eddie murphy movie, too bad he plays everyone in them.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: ManaByte on March 13, 2010, 03:36:21 AM: They had to shoot Precious with IMAX cameras because regular lenses were too small.

When she stands on a talking scale it asks "is that your zip code?"
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 21, 2011, 04:33:43 PM: I think we can now safely say that the answer was yes.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 21, 2011, 05:17:27 PM: Quote from: Mamacint on March 12, 2010, 10:23:39 PM
"and I thought she smelled bad...from the outside"

what? i said this? :-\
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Diunx on April 21, 2011, 06:06:09 PM: Who?
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: demi on April 21, 2011, 06:09:09 PM: Joe you can star in my movie.
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Vizzys on April 21, 2011, 09:08:21 PM: that trainer killing joke is still pretty good
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 21, 2011, 09:11:08 PM: Quote from: Viz on April 21, 2011, 09:08:21 PM
that trainer killing joke is still pretty good

ManaByte's final gift to us before he left Evilbore forever.

Oh wait, he's still here?
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 22, 2011, 02:08:40 AM: Quote
"What movie could she play in?" Stern questioned on his live broadcast. "You feel bad because everyone pretends that she's part of show business, and she's never going to be in another movie."

well he was basically right
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 22, 2011, 02:17:44 AM: she looks like the average xbot to me maybe she'll have a career on Inside Xbox ??? ???
Title: Re: Gabourey Sidibe - Too fat to be a superstar?
Post by: demi on April 22, 2011, 09:36:23 AM: There isnt a single black person on Xbox or PSN :lol