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Title: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 28, 2010, 10:43:34 PM
help, help. poe's law does not suffice for my purposes (http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe's_Law), and i need to codify the following interwub social rule:

call it "Maurice's Law": "a sufficiently engaged and determined troll is ultimately indistinguishable from the crazy person he purports to satirize."

also add "Futami's Corollary": "it is a best practice to regard the committed troll as the intellectual owner of his constructed persona, regardless of his actual previously held beliefs, as his message is made moot by his diminished returns over time."

help me refine this for submission to the internet cabal.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 28, 2010, 10:50:22 PM
"PD's Law": When being a virgin beyond a certain age used to be a source of shame but now is used as a self-satisfied source of supremecity as a subject matter expert when it comes to pornography.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 28, 2010, 10:55:33 PM
"PD's Law": When being a virgin beyond a certain age used to be a source of shame but now is used as a self-satisfied source of supremecity as a subject matter expert when it comes to pornography.

:lol
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 28, 2010, 10:57:39 PM
okay, that one's a lot better. "internet virgin status indicates extensive pornographic expertise" is almost a truism
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Rman on March 28, 2010, 11:44:10 PM
:lol
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: ToxicAdam on March 29, 2010, 12:21:08 AM
Ironic since they are more likely to white knight in a thread.

Apparently fighting the objectification and abuse of women only extends to matters outside the reach of their right hand.

Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2010, 12:22:56 AM
Not true. PD has always held firm that he likes his pornstars to like their jobs.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Cormacaroni on March 29, 2010, 12:30:02 AM
Can't really make that a law, since it hinges on the degree of determination. How about you just say 'There is a fine line between a troll and his target'?
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 29, 2010, 12:35:07 AM
well, i want to emphasize the point that you might as well treat a sufficiently determined troll exactly LIKE you would the personality he has adopted, since it boots nothing to call him out on the act
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 29, 2010, 01:04:11 AM
Not true. PD has always held firm that he likes his pornstars to like their jobs.
Already PD's Law is in effect :smug
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 29, 2010, 01:06:15 AM
PD: got a couple chick's numbers at Buffalo Wild Wings, hung out with another lady friend
Prole: posted a thread on Evilbore, performed christian side hug on wife

:smug
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Himu on March 29, 2010, 01:08:22 AM
PD: got a couple chick's numbers at Buffalo Wild Wings, hung out with another lady friend
Prole: posted a thread on Evilbore, performed christian side hug on wife

:smug

:rofl

OH SHIT
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2010, 01:12:14 AM
:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2010, 01:42:13 AM
Only if we can make our own.

Arvie's Law:  No matter how a guy looks, he will ultimately be rejected by every girl if his personality is bad enough.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: demi on March 29, 2010, 01:42:58 AM
:lol I had to google Christian Side Hug
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: brob on March 29, 2010, 01:52:17 AM
Prole can't catch a break after revealing his puritan ways. Annihilated by chronic masturbators   :'(
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 29, 2010, 01:54:03 AM
[youtube=560,345]P-HmDE0Plj0[/youtube]

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs436.ash1/24115_878299029822_28103160_54109273_7550194_n.jpg)
Boogie Christian Side something something
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2010, 02:20:59 AM
No he has not been rejected by EVERY girl.  There was one.  He then rejected her.  What a cruel world.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 02:33:59 AM
getting rejected implies that you're actually asking.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2010, 02:38:33 AM
getting rejected implies that you're actually asking.

I liked three girls in highschool, was rejected by one, creeped out the other one, and by the third I could tell she wasn't into be and so didn't try.  I tried...kind of lol 
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2010, 02:44:24 AM
Someone make a law about Green Shinobi.

When everyone, including you yourself know you're getting trolled, anything you say after that can only make it worse.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 29, 2010, 03:04:10 AM
"Green Shinobi's Law": In real life I'm totally awesome. Yes, really I am. Just because you think I'm an idiot on the internet doesn't make it so. In real life. I am awesome. Even though part of the reason you think I'm an idiot is because I share my real life ancedotes online. But really in real life. Awesome am I. 
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Reb on March 29, 2010, 03:12:09 AM
GS' Law: If you have to explain you haven't been annihilated for the tenth time, you've been annihilated 11 times.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Madrun Badrun on March 29, 2010, 03:12:48 AM
GS' Law: If you have to explain you haven't been annihilated for the tenth time, you've been annihilated 11 times.

:lol best one yet
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 29, 2010, 03:13:56 AM
GS' Law: If you have to explain you haven't been annihilated for the tenth time, you've been annihilated 11 times.
:lol
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 03:38:25 AM
GS' Law: If you have to explain you haven't been annihilated for the tenth time, you've been annihilated 11 times.

:lol
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: CajoleJuice on March 29, 2010, 03:39:36 AM
GS' Law: If you have to explain you haven't been annihilated for the nth time, you've been annihilated n+1 times.

/recursive'd
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 03:42:39 AM
thinking the same thing Cajole  8)
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 29, 2010, 03:44:49 AM
wow, i am annihilated by pd in my own thread, AND i share that annihilation with green shinobi :-\

WORST. NIGHT. EVER.

i'mma go sidehug my wife now, maybe cuddle if i'm lucky :-[
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 29, 2010, 04:06:03 AM
GS sublaw section a, part 1:  by pointing out my prodigious iq, i am compensating for my lack of social skills/penis size/absence of affection during childhood/[insert other tragedy here]
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 29, 2010, 04:10:06 AM
Isn't this just an application of the Liskov substitution principle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liskov_substitution_principle)?  If a troll correctly implements the ICrazyPerson interface contract and upcasts itself to ICrazyPerson, you ought to be able to process it like any other ICrazyPerson without worrying about what it might supposedly be downcastable to.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 29, 2010, 04:18:44 AM
recursivelyenumerable's Law: There's no form of human interaction that can't be worked out with math.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 29, 2010, 04:21:10 AM
I just got this great book on "Mathematical Physiology".  It's got chapters on everything from cell signaling and the Krebs cycle to the various systems of the body, the digestive system, nervous system and so on.  There's not a chapter on the reproductive system though.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Fresh Prince on March 29, 2010, 04:53:52 AM
GODDAMN IT.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Really, I am.
[close]

Anyway, those are some pretty strong words considering you're about as far from an intellectual heavyweight as it gets on this forum.

GS sublaw section a, part 1:  by pointing out my prodigious iq, i am compensating for my lack of social skills/penis size/absence of affection during childhood/[insert other tragedy here]

GS' Law: If you have to explain you haven't been annihilated for the nth time, you've been annihilated n+1 times.
:smug
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 07:31:46 AM
This thread is fucking amazing. :rofl
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 07:39:06 AM
Ichirou's Law: Its OK to bitch about being owed money even if you stupidly gave it to someone on the internet.

I did like a half-dozen trades here, Mupepe's the only one who ripped me off. :shrug

Not that I mind you reminding people that Mupepe's a thief.  Keep making fun of me for being a naive dumbass as long as you want, bro. :rock
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 07:42:12 AM
You know he has a tiny penis, though, right?  He suffers from Chub Dick Syndrome.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 07:45:36 AM
ay Dios mio
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: demi on March 29, 2010, 07:52:56 AM
You know he has a tiny penis, though, right?  He suffers from Chub Dick Syndrome.

I like stubby weiners. It's cute.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: CurseoftheGods on March 29, 2010, 07:54:57 AM
PD: got a couple chick's numbers at Buffalo Wild Wings, hung out with another lady friend
Prole: posted a thread on Evilbore, performed christian side hug on wife

:smug

:rofl
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: demi on March 29, 2010, 08:01:34 AM
Meh
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: etiolate on March 29, 2010, 08:20:59 AM
I think the actual GS law is:

1. If one is trolled hard enough then the trolled subject may entice the trolls into further behavior, so that at a certain point the trolls expend more energy trolling the person than is expended by the trolled subject, thus effectively trolling themselves.

Some further internet laws that I have learned over the years.

The Whipping Bag Law

1. The community whipping bag holds a subversive form of power to the overt power of the community rulers for without the whipping bag the community turns on itself.

The Missing Bag rule

1. Once the whipping bag leaves, they effectively pull the plug on the community. If the community doesn't find a new focal point then it is destined to fall apart. Further plug pulling by future whipping bags eventually lead to continual community splintering.

Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Ichirou on March 29, 2010, 08:27:06 AM
You mean whipping boy, not bag.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: etiolate on March 29, 2010, 08:28:59 AM
I didn't want to be sexist.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 08:39:06 AM
Quote
The Whipping Bag Law

1. The community whipping bag holds a subversive form of power to the overt power of the community rulers for without the whipping bag the community turns on itself.

The Missing Bag rule

1. Once the whipping bag leaves, they effectively pull the plug on the community. If the community doesn't find a new focal point then it is destined to fall apart. Further plug pulling by future whipping bags eventually lead to continual community splintering.

These are okay, but too generally applicable to group psychology to be distinguished as internet laws imo.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: etiolate on March 29, 2010, 08:43:09 AM
True. The internet just might make it a lot more common.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 08:50:24 AM
The dude-bros who pack together at bars and can't even tell you what a smilie is are just as obsessed with the question of who's in and who's out as your average forum community, I reckon. 

Wherever there is a pack there is its other. 

Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 08:55:35 AM
Also; Evilbore can sustain itself without any whipping bags posting internally because of the "post here to spew venom at GAFers" thread! :teehee
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 29, 2010, 10:53:09 AM
The actual GS law is something like "The funnier person wins the argument every time" followed immediately by "GS is the least funny person on Evilbore."

A nice little catchphrase would be "Logic. It's only cool when Mandark does it."
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Human Snorenado on March 29, 2010, 10:55:53 AM
Completely forgot about the Etoilet Maxim: 

Wherein making fun of Nintendo today is the equivalent of a genocide in the future.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 11:16:45 AM
The actual GS law is something like "The funnier person wins the argument every time" followed immediately by "GS is the least funny person on Evilbore."

A nice little catchphrase would be "Logic. It's only cool when Mandark does it."

Hopefully you made this post simply to illustrate GS's law, and not because of it.  I'm just not sure what the ramifications of a law that produces the annihilation it seeks to address would be.  You may have just accidently annihilated yourself to infinity.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 29, 2010, 11:32:40 AM
The actual GS law is something like "The funnier person wins the argument every time" followed immediately by "GS is the least funny person on Evilbore."

A nice little catchphrase would be "Logic. It's only cool when Mandark does it."

Hopefully you made this post simply to illustrate GS's law, and not because of it.  I'm just not sure what the ramifications of a law that produces the annihilation it seeks to address would be.  You may have just accidently annihilated yourself to infinity.

OMG you might be onto something!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Green Shinobi on March 29, 2010, 11:42:41 AM
If there is an actual, definitive GS Law, it's this: If people want badly enough to see someone annihilated, than absolutely anything can serve to represent that annihilation, regardless of whether a debate had a winner and loser, or whether a debate even existed in the first place.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 11:47:34 AM
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Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Phoenix Dark on March 29, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
If there is an actual, definitive GS Law, it's this: If people want badly enough to see someone annihilated, than absolutely anything can serve to represent that annihilation, regardless of whether a debate had a winner and loser, or whether a debate even existed in the first place.

^
12th annihilation
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: The Fake Shemp on March 29, 2010, 02:36:08 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Barry Egan on March 29, 2010, 04:13:56 PM
GS's post count should be replaced with an annihilation count that goes up everytime he argues against his having been annihilated.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Joe Molotov on March 29, 2010, 05:06:06 PM
GS's post count should be replaced with an annihilation count that goes up everytime he argues against his having been annihilated.

Ironically, that number would be the same as his post count. :smug
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Bloodwake on March 29, 2010, 05:26:39 PM
[youtube=560,345]Sa0EtdtPi8w[/youtube]
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 29, 2010, 05:36:09 PM
:bow GS standing up for Enlightenment values against romantic obscurantism (hipster edition) :bow2
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Van Cruncheon on March 29, 2010, 05:43:17 PM
recursivelyenumerable: the passive-aggressive saint cornelius
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on March 29, 2010, 05:56:46 PM
Quote
passive-aggressive saint

we holy men call it "wu wei"

Quote from: Wikipedia on Taoism
Wu wei (simplified Chinese: 无为; traditional Chinese: 無爲; pinyin: wúwéi) is a central concept in Taoism. The literal meaning of wu wei is "without action". It is often expressed by the paradox wei wu wei, meaning "action without action" or "effortless doing".[25] The practice and efficacy of wu wei are fundamental in Taoist thought, most prominently emphasized in Taoism. The goal of wu wei is alignment with Tao, revealing the soft and invisible power within all things. It is believed by Taoists that masters of wu wei can observe and follow this invisible potential, the innate in-action of the Way.[26]
In ancient Taoist texts, wu wei is associated with water through its yielding nature.[27] Water is soft and weak, but it can move earth and carve stone. Taoist philosophy proposes that the universe works harmoniously according to its own ways. When someone exerts his will against the world, he disrupts that harmony. Taoism does not identify man's will as the root problem. Rather, it asserts that man must place his will in harmony with the natural universe.[28]

Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: AdmiralViscen on March 29, 2010, 07:20:45 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Diunx on March 29, 2010, 07:44:22 PM
GS's post count should be replaced with an annihilation count that goes up everytime he argues against his having been annihilated.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: i need to create a new internet law for convenient net nerd argumentation
Post by: Mandark on March 29, 2010, 09:52:01 PM
GS' Law: If you have to explain you haven't been annihilated for the tenth time, you've been annihilated 11 times.

:lol