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Title: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 10:21:07 AM
I have been thinking about moving to USA for some time now but I haven't really made up my mind since I really don't know yet how things might work out for me over there. I have discussed this topic with some friends a couple of times during the past few months but I really didn't get a lot of help from them since most of us don't have a lot of experience about moving out or living outside Europe. I have searched a little bit online but my situation is a little bit different and I feel that I might need to talk directly to someone who lives there and can provide me with some help and sharpen the image that I have of living, working or studying over there.

One of my best friends was in a very similar situation as the one that I am in right now and he decided to do something different with his life so he moved to china with barely any money to cover his rent for a few months, he searched for jobs as soon as he got there till he found one and now he is enjoying his time down there, started to speak Chinese and got a new Asian girlfriend.
I really feel that I need to make a change like that in my live but China is not really something for me, I would rather move to a place like usa for 2 or 3 years and start experiencing a new life over there even if it means that I have to work for a minimum wage.

I am 22 years old Swedish citizen, I know that I can visit USA and stay there for 6 months or so without any problems but what are my chances of getting the green card through working or studying over there?
Which state would you recommend me the most? how much money do you think that I need to have on me in order to survive until I find a job? feel free to comment on anything that would help improve my journey and experience, your general thoughts on the whole thing are appreciated too.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: elektrikluv on April 04, 2010, 12:16:02 PM
You guys are mean!  :lol

Sorry I can't help, I live in Europe and would never move to the USA.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Himu on April 04, 2010, 12:24:53 PM
who are you, skid mark? welcome!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 04, 2010, 12:46:17 PM
Can't really help you here much Skidmark although I will say don't even consider moving to anything roughly regarded as "The South".

Unfortunately a lot of the cities and states, especially the multi-cultural ones you would actually want to live at in the US have a higher cost of living.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Eric P on April 04, 2010, 12:48:28 PM
have you SEEN the political thread?

Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 12:51:31 PM
Thank you guys!

I just read a little bit more and it seems harder than I thought since I won't be allowed to work during my visit to the states and if I get caught doing so I will not be allowed into the country ever again. Finding a job is also harder since the employer has to prove that the position that I am taking can not be filled with an already us citizen.
The only thing left is studying which I doubt would be easy to succeed at and will probably take a lot of time and money.
I guess I will have to forget about moving to usa for now.

I will go make myself a cup of Irish coffee and play some search and destroy to help myself forget how boring Sweden can be.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: elektrikluv on April 04, 2010, 12:59:48 PM
Why not move to elsewhere in Europe?
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 04, 2010, 01:03:30 PM
You guys are mean!  :lol

Sorry I can't help, I live in Europe and would never move to the USA.

Good, we don't want you anyway!!!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 04, 2010, 01:04:04 PM
how boring Sweden can be.

http://www.prosperity.com/rankings.aspx
http://www.prosperity.com/country.aspx?id=SW

#3

 :usacry

Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 01:13:11 PM
Why not move to elsewhere in Europe?
It is the socialism that makes America interesting to me, something that we don't have much of here in Europe.
I don't really know, its more of a feeling or a wish that I have to move to usa than anything else really.
It might sound funny to say this but I developed this feeling through watching american media like the tonight show, the daily show, real time and vlogs on youtube such as kasem G shay carl and their other friends.  :D
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 04, 2010, 01:17:52 PM
I'll be totally honest and admit and I have no clue why anybody would want to move to the US at this stage. It's like moving to England or Rome before the fall of the Empires. Of course the Bush years permanently soured me a lot on my country so that has to be taken into account. Give me another 20 years and maybe I'll be able to put all that behind me.

I think Hollywood and American entertainment does a good job of evangelizing what is often a fairly boring and annoyingly conservative and vapid culture. But then hey maybe the rest of world isn't much better either...  Shrug.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: elektrikluv on April 04, 2010, 01:31:17 PM
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I think Hollywood and American entertainment does a good job of evangelizing what is often a fairly boring and annoyingly conservative and vapid culture

Yeah the American media is one of the most over the top, polished medias that there is, it's incredibly theatrical when compared to European media. I can see why it would make you want to move there, but I agree with Stoney Mason's last words there.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2010, 01:33:17 PM
Eh, America's a pretty diverse place. You've got just about every different kind of natural environment there is, you've got liberal and conservative areas, there's big cities and huge stretches of open land, and you've got people from pretty much every different country and culture in the world. I'm not one of those "America is the greatest country to ever exist in the world ever", but it's hardly boring I'd say.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 01:40:40 PM
America rocks, even if it's a little crazy at times. Come on and join the party!

And don't worry elektrikluv, we wouldn't want you here either.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 01:44:33 PM
I'll be totally honest and admit and I have no clue why anybody would want to move to the US at this stage. It's like moving to England or Rome before the fall of the Empires. Of course the Bush years permanently soured me a lot on my country so that has to be taken into account. Give me another 20 years and maybe I'll be able to put all that behind me.

I think Hollywood and American entertainment does a good job of evangelizing what is often a fairly boring and annoyingly conservative and vapid culture. But then hey maybe the rest of world isn't much better either...  Shrug.

Stockholm Center:
(http://panapictures.com/assets/Galleries/Sweden/thumbnails/Center_of_stockholm.jpg)
California beach:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/11lsm4i.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz-cxjFKUUQ
The video shows exactly what we don't have in Sweden, people just being alive, social, open and just know how to relax and have fun. People here including the young ones do not go outdoors unless they have a reason to, and its almost a taboo to go and talk to someone you don't know unless you are both drunk and waiting in a line.

Allow me to keep my good internet connection and give me a job at a mcdonalds that is in a social active place where the weather is good and and where I get to have good lunch breaks and I will be a lot happier than I am right now.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 01:44:54 PM
Also, I'd recommend relocating to the Northeast.

Normally I'd say California would be an ideal fit, but its state finances and employment are a bit of a mess right now.

At least if you are in the D.C. or New York area you can get a government job or some phat banker bailout moneys.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Barry Egan on April 04, 2010, 01:55:43 PM
I'll be totally honest and admit and I have no clue why anybody would want to move to the US at this stage. It's like moving to England or Rome before the fall of the Empires. Of course the Bush years permanently soured me a lot on my country so that has to be taken into account. Give me another 20 years and maybe I'll be able to put all that behind me.

I think Hollywood and American entertainment does a good job of evangelizing what is often a fairly boring and annoyingly conservative and vapid culture. But then hey maybe the rest of world isn't much better either...  Shrug.

Stockholm Center:
(http://panapictures.com/assets/Galleries/Sweden/thumbnails/Center_of_stockholm.jpg)
California beach:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/11lsm4i.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz-cxjFKUUQ
The video shows exactly what we don't have in Sweden, people just being alive, social, open and just know how to relax and have fun. People here including the young ones do not go outdoors unless they have a reason to, and its almost a taboo to go and talk to someone you don't know unless you are both drunk and waiting in a line.

Allow me to keep my good internet connection and give me a job at a mcdonalds that is in a social active place where the weather is good and and where I get to have good lunch breaks and I will be a lot happier than I am right now.

Man are you in for a crushing disappointment  :lol
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 04, 2010, 01:57:48 PM
You would hardly be able to afford an internet connection if you work at McDonald's, let alone get a decent lunch break.

I suggest you do some more research.  The US isn't as bad as the angsty cuntery tone of the replies suggests but it will fuck you hard in the ass if you don't know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: elektrikluv on April 04, 2010, 01:59:06 PM
America rocks, even if it's a little crazy at times. Come on and join the party!

And don't worry elektrikluv, we wouldn't want you here either.

You always make the fact that I wouldn't want to live in the USA some personal attack upon the people or something and in turn, make it an attack on me.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 04, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
People are sucky all over?

Are you planning to go over to study?
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 04, 2010, 02:05:19 PM
Smoke a lot of weed and then potentially have sex with your male best friend.

Complete that right there you have successfully replicated 80% of the California experience no matter where you live.

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Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Barry Egan on April 04, 2010, 02:07:07 PM
You would hardly be able to afford an internet connection if you work at McDonald's, let alone get a decent lunch break.

I suggest you do some more research.  The US isn't as bad as the angsty cuntery tone of the replies suggests but it will fuck you hard in the ass if you don't know what you're doing.

> Implying that being violently raped in your ass for screwing up isn't that bad.  
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 04, 2010, 02:11:32 PM
I just read a little bit more and it seems harder than I thought since I won't be allowed to work during my visit to the states and if I get caught doing so I will not be allowed into the country ever again. Finding a job is also harder since the employer has to prove that the position that I am taking can not be filled with an already us citizen.

Honestly, because of this I think you're SOL for at least a year or two. Maybe if you were with an international in Sweden atm you could swing a transfer to a US division, but even that would be unlikely.

Sounds like you aren't a trust fund baby and would need to work a real job while trying to experience the US as more than a tourist...just not seeing it happening man.  :(
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 02:13:45 PM
People are sucky all over?

Are you planning to go over to study?

Not directly to study, mostly for the experience but if I got the possibility to study some more I will do so.
I might be in for a disappointment but I am still young and got nothing to loose and a lot to gain from such an experience no matter how it turns out. The greatest risk in life is not to take any risks.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:27:22 PM
You always make the fact that I wouldn't want to live in the USA some personal attack upon the people or something and in turn, make it an attack on me.

And that's my God-given right as an American citizen! :american :gun :gbcry

Quote from: Wrath2X
I still wanna live in America though. Its what I want so yeah.

Come on in, there's plenty of room for everyone! I'll get the hot tub ready. :-*

... Skidmark, I'd recommend putting some cash away and just traveling to America, exploring the open road and our diverse cities. If you like it, go back home and focus on finding a company that'll sponsor you. Put whatever skills you have acquired in Europe, which I gather is either listening to house music or not paying gratuities, and bring them to America!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 02:27:57 PM
Then go for it I guess.

It seems like you already made up your mind but hesitant to take the actual steps forward. I say go!

I will probably visit the us at the end of this year and stay there for a few months if my economy allows me, I will try go on cheap trips around the country and improve my understanding of how it might workout if I move there and see my chances of staying there if I find a job or continue my studies.
The cheapest ticket from Sweden to California was about $1000.
Nothing for sure yet, I might change my mind in a couple of months but I will hopefully visit the states sooner or later.

Edit: Thanks for your tips tfs :D
If there is a cheap route that you know of or know any good cheap places to stay at or places to visit, please share it with me, I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:29:59 PM
Come to either Los Angeles or D.C., because I'm bound to be in either city and I'll be your benevolent rape tour guide.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Disposable White Guy on April 04, 2010, 02:31:35 PM
If you don't already have a goal career field set in mind, then your best chances of enjoying your stay would be to take advantage of our education system.  Unless your credentials are astounding, you'll either end up working ridiculous overnight hours for shit pay or laying down mulch/getting made fun of by good ol' boys on a construction site for shit pay.  Or possibly working your dick off in front of a camera for nickel & dime wages as well.  I'd agree with Willco and shoot for the NE coast somewhere, since at the very least you can end up being a Mob enforcer if nothing else works out and they're a pretty lucrative business no matter the economic times.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:32:38 PM
Yeah, I think you should base your preconceptions of American life as a European immigrant off of Grand Theft Auto IV.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Disposable White Guy on April 04, 2010, 02:33:26 PM
Hey man, Rockstar totally knows the score.

edit:  Cars  really will always slide off the goddamn poorly made American roads and into streetlights unless they're staying under 30 mph, just to clear that up for all you non-American fellers.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:34:07 PM
I hope you can keep up with my fast-paced Hollywood lifestyle of coke, whores and bi-sexual exploration. :-*
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: brob on April 04, 2010, 02:35:52 PM
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The video shows exactly what we don't have in Sweden, people just being alive, social, open and just know how to relax and have fun. People here including the young ones do not go outdoors unless they have a reason to, and its almost a taboo to go and talk to someone you don't know unless you are both drunk and waiting in a line.
Lulz. Take two steps left and move to Oslo or something then, we norwegians be lively as fuck. I suspect swedes are too and you're just not hip to the fact. This thread reads very much like a weeabo thread except it's Jersey Shore instead of moe. :teehee
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
edit:  Cars  really will always slide off the goddamn poorly made American roads and into streetlights unless they're staying under 30 mph, just to clear that up for all you non-American fellers.

Yeah, this isn't the Autobahn, folks. Even simple right turns can result in a fatal car crash unless you hit the brakes with a ton of force. Also, you cannot go up to every car, kick someone out and drive away - some of them have guns!

So, what I'm trying to say is, that you should try and brush up on your firearms proficiency before you hit the States.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 04, 2010, 02:41:48 PM
Michigan is pretty cool, you can hang with me bro
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:43:31 PM
Yeah, Michigan is pretty cool... if you like hellish, post-apocalyptic dystopian landscapes littered with thugs and dirty homeless drifters.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 04, 2010, 02:44:27 PM
Sounds like Washington DC!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 04, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
Lulz. Take two steps left and move to Oslo or something then, we norwegians be lively as fuck. I suspect swedes are too and you're just not hip to the fact. This thread reads very much like a weeabo thread except it's Jersey Shore instead of moe. :teehee
This is the perception I have too. I'd suggest moving away from your friends, family etc will have the most effect on you even if it's to a neighboring city, state, country.

I've often thought about moving overseas too it usually comes down to 'avoid settling down'.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:45:25 PM
Nice comeback, Maurice - if it was 1988. D.C. is actually pretty nice nowadays. We even have a brand new baseball park on the Anacostia waterfront! Enjoy your slowly decaying state, sucker. :lol
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Disposable White Guy on April 04, 2010, 02:46:01 PM
And bitches.  Can't forget them bitches.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 04, 2010, 02:47:12 PM
Nice comeback, Maurice - if it was 1988. D.C. is actually pretty nice nowadays. We even have a brand new baseball park on the Anacostia waterfront! Enjoy your slowly decaying state, sucker. :lol

well...

well....

enjoy TEBOW sucker!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:47:33 PM
That hurt, bro.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Diunx on April 04, 2010, 02:49:17 PM
America can be pretty boring sometimes, all young people seems to do is go to the movies or some hipster concert, they have a LOT of delicious trash food and beautiful women though :drool
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:52:31 PM
I can't talk about any productions coming to D.C., but I will say this: ;)
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 02:53:12 PM
I will probably have to think a little bit more about it and take a more realistic look into what my chances of a good experience are. I will see what my economy will allow me to do. If i wont afford a visit to the states then I will probably convince one of my friends to go backpacking with me around Europe for a month. Ticket costs $755 and can be used to travel to 21 different countries freely for a whole month.
I'm probably just tired of my routine and just want to experience something different right now.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:54:46 PM
Hey man, there's nothing wrong with traveling. Everyone should get their backpack on and explore the world.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: brob on April 04, 2010, 02:56:08 PM
Doing the europe thing is great fun and it doesn't have the down side of experiencing americans which is a little harder to avoid when traveling to usa.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 02:57:50 PM
Bah, Americans are usually friendly. We get a bad reputation courtesy of a few bad apples. I don't think all Eurotrash are anti-Semites!*

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Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 03:01:44 PM
Yeah, Bartertown New Orleans is exciting and fun!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 04, 2010, 03:02:36 PM
eh everybody goes backpacking willco. gen y (except for cloud and kosma) usually stay in the same country they grew up, gets married, buy a house and has kids  :'(
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: brob on April 04, 2010, 03:13:17 PM
What the fuck, are we on gen y? I thought we were still on x! D:
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 04, 2010, 03:17:25 PM
sometimes I say I am really gen x since I rather be cynical failure than an narcissistic overachiever
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 04, 2010, 03:22:12 PM
From what I understand, the immigration process here in Canada is much easier than it is in the States.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: brob on April 04, 2010, 03:23:32 PM
sometimes I say I am really gen x since I rather be cynical failure than an narcissistic overachiever
I've always seen myself as a narcissistic failure, am I the bridge over the generational gap?  :o
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 03:26:25 PM
From what I understand, the immigration process here in Canada is much easier than it is in the States.

See, there you go! If you can't get into the States, you can always immigrate to the poor man's version!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 04, 2010, 03:30:27 PM
Does Canada even have a proper beach? Or is it just peddles?

I've always seen myself as a narcissistic failure, am I the bridge over the generational gap?  :o
Nah your gen y- you probably blame your failure on somebody else.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 03:47:42 PM
I've survived in arab hoods bro!


I ASSUME you may be alright then. The hood is a scary place man, I gotta stay strapped at all times. And by that I mean I carry a metal whistle in my right hand at all times. Never had to use it, but I did flash it a few times.


whats your whistle gonna do in a fight?
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 04, 2010, 03:53:17 PM
From what I understand, the immigration process here in Canada is much easier than it is in the States.

See, there you go! If you can't get into the States, you can always immigrate to the poor man's version!

I think it's just because we are actually ok with forgeiners, where Americans are all like "they took our jebs".
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 04, 2010, 03:53:49 PM
Yeah, Michigan is pretty cool... if you like hellish, post-apocalyptic dystopian landscapes littered with thugs and dirty homeless drifters.
99% of Michigan is horrible despite what PD thinks. One of the worst states I've lived in. I would leave the state if I wasn't able to live in the libruuul artsy college town hippie-land of Ann Arbor.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: CurseoftheGods on April 04, 2010, 03:55:06 PM
Bah, Americans are usually friendly. We get a bad reputation courtesy of a few bad apples.

>

From what I understand, the immigration process here in Canada is much easier than it is in the States.

See, there you go! If you can't get into the States, you can always immigrate to the poor man's version!

Does Canada even have a proper beach? Or is it just peddles?

:lol
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 04, 2010, 03:56:51 PM
Yes the pebbles! I hate that. Why the fuck is every beach I been to outside of America always just pebbles and not sand? It was that way in Europe too.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 03:57:00 PM
I've survived in arab hoods bro!


I ASSUME you may be alright then. The hood is a scary place man, I gotta stay strapped at all times. And by that I mean I carry a metal whistle in my right hand at all times. Never had to use it, but I did flash it a few times.


whats your whistle gonna do in a fight?


Alert the few elderly white people around that one of their own needs help. Also, the edge is pretty sharp so I suppose I could swing it around and get a few cuts in.
Not sure if serious, I have seen worse tactics to be honest and I had my own one too.
When I was 14 I used to take my boxing teeth protection with me in my pocket but i never used it, putting it on before a fight is just as ridiculous as taking your shirt off.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 03:58:12 PM
Yes the pebbles! I hate that. Why the fuck is every beach I been to outside of America always just pebbles and not sand? It was that way in Europe too.

Sandy beaches > socialist health care
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Skidmark on April 04, 2010, 04:01:09 PM
Dude all you got is sissy gangsters, we got motherfucking terrorists up in this bitch exploding them bombs.
At least your criminals know their shit, last month Sweden's Black cobra stole some cake and got caught too.
http://www.thelocal.se/25498/20100312/
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: brob on April 04, 2010, 04:02:21 PM
Pfff, fuck sand - we got surfable waves all year son. What kind of pussy sits on the beach?
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 05:19:04 PM
Yeah, Michigan is pretty cool... if you like hellish, post-apocalyptic dystopian landscapes littered with thugs and dirty homeless drifters.
99% of Michigan is horrible despite what PD thinks. One of the worst states I've lived in. I would leave the state if I wasn't able to live in the libruuul artsy college town hippie-land of Ann Arbor.

Does Ann Arbor have their own Robocop? Then Detroit > Ann Arbor

Also in Detroit you can buy a house for a dollar. Or you can live in a empty, run-down supermarket for FREE. I'm taking the entire Shake Clan there once I scrap up enough pennies to cover utilities :bow
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 05:22:11 PM
So basically, daily life in Michigan is like playing a few hours of Fallout 3?
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 05:24:26 PM
It sounds fucking awesome. It's like living in the midst of a real-life Road Warrior

(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Politics/images-2/the-road-warrior-mel-gibson.jpg)
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 04, 2010, 05:28:00 PM
Yeah, Michigan is pretty cool... if you like hellish, post-apocalyptic dystopian landscapes littered with thugs and dirty homeless drifters.
99% of Michigan is horrible despite what PD thinks. One of the worst states I've lived in. I would leave the state if I wasn't able to live in the libruuul artsy college town hippie-land of Ann Arbor.

Does Ann Arbor have their own Robocop? Then Detroit > Ann Arbor

Also in Detroit you can buy a house for a dollar. Or you can live in a empty, run-down supermarket for FREE. I'm taking the entire Shake Clan there once I scrap up enough pennies to cover utilities :bow

In Ann Arbor pot is basically decriminalized and on a given weekend you see people sitting around the park openly smoking it downtown. Willco's beloved Kevin Smith once described Ann Arbor as the sealed off utopia in the state that is surrounded by shit where everyone is high. Which isn't far off.

And yes Detroit is pretty much that. It is a empty hell-hole.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 05:30:02 PM
I remember PD claiming he hated Robocop as a kid because it gave Detroit a bad name or some such nonsense.

In 2010, I think watching Robocop is like looking back at Detroit with rose-colored glasses. The place is literally a giant wasteland in the middle of the country.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 05:31:00 PM
I imagine RoboCop will be categorized as a documentary in about ten years.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 05:31:43 PM
I imagine RoboCop will be categorized as a documentary in about ten years.

Robocop is to Detroit as Singin' in the Rain is to 1930's Hollywood.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: demi on April 04, 2010, 05:56:00 PM
Chicago is definitely where you want to be.

Rural urban street smarts, quiet peacful suburbia, lake shores, conglomerate buildings, the president of the united states... and BOYSTOWN
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: bdoughty on April 04, 2010, 06:10:40 PM
Yes, Chicago all the way, assuming you don't like having money in your wallet.  If you wait until July you only have to pay 9.75% sales tax (down from 10.25) but still the highest in the country.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 04, 2010, 06:22:14 PM
I think what he wants is a place where people are energetic, sociable, living outdoors, sporty and have a 'joy of life' etc And proper beaches. So it seem like from people's experiences it would be:
Brazil
Spain
Sydney, Australia (though you need to live in the right area and be with the right social circle which I guess is true anywhere).
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: WrikaWrek on April 04, 2010, 06:45:17 PM
The guy wants to move to the States because of what he sees in T.V and movies. Then you really have to move to New York and shit.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 06:46:12 PM
Everyone secretly wishes they were an extra in Gossip Girl :bow
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: elektrikluv on April 04, 2010, 06:49:45 PM
So true, the clothes omg :bow
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Powerslave on April 04, 2010, 06:51:25 PM
Fuck yes Robocop.


Robocop.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 04, 2010, 06:52:04 PM
Isn't Blake lively on gossip girl? Her legs omg
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 06:53:56 PM
Yeah, New York also has Blake Lively's legs :bow
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: drew on April 04, 2010, 07:09:07 PM
Michigan is pretty cool, you can hang with me bro

michigan is a shithole, their #1 export is methamphetamine, come to toledo, its no cleveland or chicago, but its alright
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 04, 2010, 07:10:57 PM
Appoint drew to Toledo's tourism board! :lol

"Come to Toledo: it's no Cleveland or Chicago, but it'll do!"
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 04, 2010, 07:11:51 PM
Toledo: At least it's not Winnipeg!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 04, 2010, 07:11:58 PM
Michigan is pretty cool, you can hang with me bro

michigan is a shithole, their #1 export is methamphetamine, come to toledo, its no cleveland or chicago, but its alright
Toledo isn't half bad. I lived right outside of it for a few years, better than Michigan.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Flannel Boy on April 04, 2010, 07:12:55 PM
Toledo: At least it's not Winnipeg or Michigan.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: demi on April 04, 2010, 07:13:06 PM
lol. Maybe back during Clinton days I'd suggest Toledo... now, stay as far away as you can
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 07:17:04 PM
Baghdad, Iraq: "We know, but hey -- at least it's not Detroit!"
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Eric P on April 04, 2010, 07:50:46 PM
yes

move to nyc

meet black people

Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 04, 2010, 07:52:38 PM
lol. Maybe back during Clinton days I'd suggest Toledo... now, stay as far away as you can
Thats when I lived around there, what changed?
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: demi on April 04, 2010, 07:59:16 PM
Lots of places shut down ($1 movies @ Northtowne), jobs being lost... angry black people
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 08:00:19 PM
$1 movies?!?!

I'm on the fucking plane.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Boogie on April 04, 2010, 08:08:02 PM
From what I understand, the immigration process here in Canada is much easier than it is in the States.

It's true!  Just make up some BS story about your life being in danger back home and claim refugee status!  Then con some Canadian chick to marry you for your citizenship, and you're golden!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: brob on April 04, 2010, 08:09:29 PM
U bitter about not being able to arrest all them pesky arabs or something, Boogie?
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 04, 2010, 08:10:36 PM
$1 movies?!?!

I'm on the fucking plane.
You've never seen a dollar theater before?
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 08:11:53 PM
$1 movies?!?!

I'm on the fucking plane.
You've never seen a dollar theater before?

There are literally none in the metro area. None.

I've checked :'(
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 04, 2010, 08:16:03 PM
$1 movies?!?!

I'm on the fucking plane.
You've never seen a dollar theater before?

There are literally none in the metro area. None.

I've checked :'(
Well I didn't mean now! I don't think I've seen one since the 90's.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 04, 2010, 08:21:08 PM
$1 movies?!?!

I'm on the fucking plane.
You've never seen a dollar theater before?

There are literally none in the metro area. None.

I've checked :'(
Well I didn't mean now! I don't think I've seen one since the 90's.

I think I went to one once when I was like six years old. That's probably the last time one has existed in New York. I haven't been able to find any, and searching online has lead me nowhere. :-\
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2010, 08:25:36 PM
Oklahoma: At least it's not Ohio.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 04, 2010, 09:35:28 PM
I can't come up with any reasons Oklahoma is better than Ohio.

Weeeeelllll....
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Cheebs on April 05, 2010, 01:55:30 AM
Oklahoma is Tea Party Sarah Palin country, the part of America that makes the mid-west seem halfway normal.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 05, 2010, 02:14:32 AM
Oklahoma is Tea Party Sarah Palin country, the part of America that makes the mid-west seem halfway normal.

Hey! We voted two Democrats to the governor's mansion!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Oblivion on April 05, 2010, 02:16:37 AM
Cali ain't too bad, aside from the serial earthquakes.

Lots of places shut down ($1 movies @ Northtowne), jobs being lost... black people

fixed
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 05, 2010, 02:22:39 AM
Oklahoma is Tea Party Sarah Palin country, the part of America that makes the mid-west seem halfway normal.

Hey! We voted two Democrats to the governor's mansion!

Brad Henry, the tax-cutting, pro-death penalty, anti-gun control, pro-war on drugs democrat!

That's the best kind!
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Oblivion on April 05, 2010, 02:29:18 AM
Oklahoma is Tea Party Sarah Palin country, the part of America that makes the mid-west seem halfway normal.

Hey! We voted two Dixiecrats to the governor's mansion!

Doesn't count.  :wag

edit: bah, beaten by The Business.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: etiolate on April 05, 2010, 05:48:41 AM
:lol
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Tristam on April 05, 2010, 10:26:37 AM
Avoid NJ and avoid the guidos; avoid the South and avoid the rednecks. Is there anywhere in GB where you can avoid the chavs?

US > GB
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Tauntaun on April 05, 2010, 10:49:31 AM
yes

move to nyc

meet black people

Only the good ones though. :smug

:american :american :american :american :american
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: duckman2000 on April 05, 2010, 11:26:12 AM
I am 22 years old Swedish citizen, I know that I can visit USA and stay there for 6 months or so without any problems but what are my chances of getting the green card through working or studying over there?

Low, very low. I entered on an H3 visa (interpraktik), and there was immense pressure from the government to stick to that. Any hint of attempting to change the visa status would have been grounds to bar me from entering the country. I got married which landed me a work permit, but the "green card," or permanent residency, was a different matter altogether.

There is the professional sponsorship method (H1B), but then the employer has to prove to the INS that you're uniquely qualified and will not simply fill a position that could be filled by a US resident. Understandably, that's not a realistic option for average dudes.


Skicka ett PM om du vill fa mer direkt information, frugan ar ratt bra pa immigration lagar och bestammelser.

Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: duckman2000 on April 05, 2010, 11:30:20 AM
I'll be totally honest and admit and I have no clue why anybody would want to move to the US at this stage.

It's a cool place, people are friendly, there are no limits on what you can achieve and be allowed to feel good about, and you can buy pretty much anything. Also, freedom of speech and guns. I'll miss a lot of stuff.

Also, :bow Ann Arbor :bow2
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Boogie on April 05, 2010, 04:03:52 PM
U bitter about not being able to arrest all them pesky arabs or something, Boogie?

Arabs?  pfft, this is done by every nationality under the sun.  Nigerians, Chinese, doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Eric P on April 05, 2010, 04:07:30 PM
but no white nationalities it seems
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 05, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
how would one move to Sweden? :smug
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: brob on April 05, 2010, 04:18:30 PM
but no white nationalities it seems

You gotta be pretty desperate to move to Alaska Jr. though... Us privileged whites have options.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Tauntaun on April 05, 2010, 04:46:29 PM
but no white nationalities it seems

You gotta be pretty desperate to move to Alaska Jr. though... Us privileged whites have options.

It's ok he's got a black g/f, she fills his head with black people lies. :shh
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Eric P on April 05, 2010, 06:00:36 PM
she does.

i now have a big black dick on my wall

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poster of Dick Gregory.
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it's mine though
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and i just realized i have a penis reference in every room.  dick gregory poster in the office, micheal moorcock in the living room, philip k dick books in the bedroom
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Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 05, 2010, 06:02:29 PM
Now I think you're Kinsey from Mad Men  :'(
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Eric P on April 05, 2010, 06:03:27 PM
i don't get that reference

Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 05, 2010, 06:09:31 PM
Pretentious guy with a beard in Mad Men who has a black girlfriend for the sake of being 'open-minded'.
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Eric P on April 05, 2010, 06:11:06 PM
pretension involves pretense.

Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Joe Molotov on April 05, 2010, 06:41:56 PM
she does.

i now have a big black dick on my wall

spoiler (click to show/hide)
poster of Dick Gregory.
[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)
it's mine though
[close]

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and i just realized i have a penis reference in every room.  dick gregory poster in the office, micheal moorcock in the living room, philip k dick books in the bedroom
[close]

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shirtless cowboy poster in your closet
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Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Eric P on April 05, 2010, 06:54:48 PM
mmmmm, flavor country
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: demi on April 05, 2010, 06:55:45 PM
Pretentious guy with a beard in Mad Men who has a black girlfriend for the sake of being 'open-minded'.

Definitely Eric
Title: Re: Moving to USA
Post by: Tauntaun on April 05, 2010, 06:58:09 PM
she does.

i now have a big black dick on my wall

spoiler (click to show/hide)
poster of Dick Gregory.
[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)
it's mine though
[close]

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and i just realized i have a penis reference in every room.  dick gregory poster in the office, micheal moorcock in the living room, philip k dick books in the bedroom
[close]

Mmmm, makes me love you.  :-*