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Title: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: ManaByte on April 12, 2010, 01:50:12 PM
...and it's on TBS :rofl

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Conan-OBrien-TBS-1017183.aspx
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Conan O'Brien is going to TBS.

"In three months I've gone from network television to Twitter to performing live in theaters, and now I'm headed to basic cable," O'Brien said in a statement. "My plan is working perfectly."

A formal announcement is expected at 1 p.m. ET.

Check out photos of Conan through the years

The currently untitled one-hour show will debut in November at 11/10c after the World Series, and will air Monday through Thursday. It will be followed by George Lopez's Lopez Tonight, which currently airs in the timeslot and has averaged more than 1.2 million viewers for its first season.

O'Brien's move marks a surprising end to a late-night shuffle that started with Jay Leno's return to the 11:35 p.m. slot on NBC and continued with O'Brien bowing out of hosting the Tonight Show after only seven months.

He was widely expected to go to Fox, and his shift to TBS dramatically raises the network's profile.

Conan O'Brien says goodbye to Tonight Show

"Conan has been the comedic voice for a generation," said Steve Koonin, president of Turner Entertainment Networks. "TBS already has a huge audience of young comedy lovers, and Conan's show will give these fans even more reasons to watch our network. For decades, late-night TV has been dominated by broadcast television. Now, with a young audience and a growing late-night lineup, TBS is set to be the choice of comedy fans for years to come."

O'Brien, 46, entered negotiations with the network last week after Lopez called and asked him to join TBS' late-night lineup. "I can't think of anything better than doing my show with Conan as my lead-in," Lopez said in a statement. "It's the beginning of a new era in late-night comedy."

Fox had expressed interest in recruiting O'Brien to stake its place in the crowded late-night field, but most affiliates currently air syndicated programs in the 11 p.m. hour.

NBC dumps Conan in $45 million deal; reinstates Leno as Tonight host

Rupert Murdoch, the head of Fox's parent company News Corp., told The Wall Street Journal in February that Fox TV executives Peter Rice and Kevin Reilly would have to "show us we can do it and be fairly confident of making a profit" for the network to hire O'Brien.

O'Brien, who hosted Late Night for 16 years, started The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien — his dream job — on June 1. He drew lower numbers than his predecessor, Leno, in part because The Jay Leno Show provided a weaker lead-in than the 10 p.m. programming it replaced.

In January, NBC concocted a plan to move Leno back to 11:35 with a half-hour show, to be followed by O'Brien at 12:05 a.m. O'Brien chose to leave The Tonight Show, saying that walking away was "the hardest thing I have ever had to do."

Live on stage: Conan hitting the road for live comedy tour

Under the terms of his $45 million exit deal, O'Brien is obligated to remain off the air until September. He has since kept busy on Twitter and planning his live comedy tour, Legally Prohibited from Being Funny on Television Tour, which kicks off Monday in Eugene, Ore.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2010, 01:51:17 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?

Conan....

what about Fox?!
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: ManaByte on April 12, 2010, 01:52:25 PM
Who needs a major network when you can go to TBS!

Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 01:55:01 PM
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"In three months I've gone from network television to Twitter to performing live in theaters, and now I'm headed to basic cable," O'Brien said in a statement. "My plan is working perfectly."

Conan is awesome.  :lol

Honestly no big deal to me. Before Jon Stewart took over the Daily Show it was Comedy Central who I could generally care less about. As long as the show is funny, I'm down with it.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Purple Filth on April 12, 2010, 01:55:22 PM
REALLY???
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2010, 01:56:32 PM
Conan tweeted about this

"The good news: I will be doing a show on TBS starting in November! The bad news: I'll be playing Rudy on the all new Cosby Show."
 :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 02:06:50 PM
I'm feasting on so so so so much crow

willco was right  :'(

he has to throw to George Fucking Lopez.  :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck   Even Fallon was better than that.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 02:10:55 PM
Even Fallon was better than that.

No he wasn't despite how much you try to pimp him.


The one thing I do like about this is all the hipsters who are mad now that Conan is at such an unhip network as TBS. Hilarious.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2010, 02:12:03 PM
Another reason for his hipster fans not to watch his show, then complain that he doesn't get a better job lolol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 02:13:49 PM
Another reason for his hipster fans not to watch his show, then complain that he doesn't get a better job lolol
Instead of being happy that gets to do a job he wants apparently they are more concerned they might get caught watching TBS by one of their hipster friends and deemed uncool.

Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 12, 2010, 02:13:59 PM
Conan tweeted about this

"The good news: I will be doing a show on TBS starting in November! The bad news: I'll be playing Rudy on the all new Cosby Show."
 :lol


:lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 02:14:03 PM
I never pimped him, I just gave him a fair chance.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 02:16:22 PM
 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:lenowned
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Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: drew on April 12, 2010, 02:17:16 PM
100 million will set anybody up for life, its a good goal to reach, and this nicca got half that from just signing an exit deal :o
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 02:17:22 PM
Well, that about wraps it up for Conan.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: drew on April 12, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
who gives a fuck what station hes on?

everybody but me apparently!
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 02:19:29 PM
Is Conan the bad guy now that he's bumped a fellow host out of his time slot?

 :smug
 :lenowned
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Barry Egan on April 12, 2010, 02:20:23 PM
this is somehow more emasculating than having to move Late Night to 12:00.

Sort of related to Stoney's point, but it's funny how Conan was given the image of a rebel simply due to the circumstances, and how moving to TBS completely fizzles that image.  My feeling is that Conan is completely oblivious to what his fans have projected on to him since he was kicked out of Late Night.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: drew on April 12, 2010, 02:21:37 PM
cant wait to hear the stern show today
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 02:23:20 PM
this is somehow more emasculating than having to move Late Night to 12:00.

Sort of related to Stoney's point, but it's funny how Conan was given the image of a rebel simply due to the circumstances, and how moving to TBS completely fizzles that image.  

It sort of shows how many people were in it for the bandwagon fun of piling on Leno and hoping on a side than actually caring about his show.



Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 02:25:53 PM
This is good in one way, he has a niche audience, the pressure to expand beyond that niche audience will be far less on basic cable.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 02:30:45 PM
This is good in one way, he has a niche audience, the pressure to expand beyond that niche audience will be far less on basic cable.

Honestly agreed.

He probably got a lot of money thrown at him.
TBS has a large viewing audience for basic cable.
He has enough name clout that he will still be able to pull relatively big guests.
He probably won't get any interference from TBS execs.
He has less pressure to alter his format to have to pull large scale numbers like he would on a traditional network.

If your simply a fan of his and not into pontificating or about status or into caring about more people being into the same thing you are to validate your taste then its probably the best move if you enjoyed his show in the past.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 12, 2010, 02:32:05 PM
You know? Out of all the outcomes I hadn't even thought about TBS (Willco Showbiz Master :bow) but holy fuck coming on before Lopez is like the worst of all possible outcomes (yes even COMPLETE EXILE). Hopefully it'll work out, at least he's on earlier?

Edit: Misread, 11pm, aw shucks
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 02:34:11 PM
This is good in one way, he has a niche audience, the pressure to expand beyond that niche audience will be far less on basic cable.

Honestly agreed.

He probably got a lot of money thrown at him.
TBS has a large viewing audience for basic cable.
He has enough name clout that he will still be able to pull relatively big guests.
He probably won't get any interference from TBS execs.

If your simply a fan of his and not into pontificating or about status or into caring about more peopl being into the same thing you are to validate your taste then its probably the best move if you enjoyed his show in the past.

The Wrap is reporting he will getting paid more than he did at NBC and he is being given complete control ala Letterman which he did not have at NBC. Seems like it would have been hard to turn down since Fox made it clear they would spend less than NBC did and I doubt they would give him complete control.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 02:36:03 PM
Guys, please keep in mind that TBS is the station that shows Family Guy reruns like around the clock and is home of The George Lopez Show.

Conan lost.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: drew on April 12, 2010, 02:36:45 PM
dont forget atlanta braves games!
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 12, 2010, 02:36:53 PM
Wait, so George Lopez got Jimmy Fallon'ed? :rofl (moved back a time slot). He's at 11 right now?
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 02:37:11 PM
Guys, please keep in mind that TBS is the station that shows Family Guy reruns like around the clock and is home of The George Lopez Show.

Conan lost.
The articles I am reading keep saying the George Lopez show gets good ratings.  :lol


Also this is cable and Conan for once has 100% creative control. It'll be far weirder than Late Night was I would imagine.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 02:39:36 PM
Guys, please keep in mind that TBS is the station that shows Family Guy reruns like around the clock and is home of The George Lopez Show.

Conan lost.
The articles I am reading keep saying the George Lopez show gets good ratings.  :lol

Why does that matter? Tons of awful programs get good ratings. :spin
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 02:39:52 PM
Guys, please keep in mind that TBS is the station that shows Family Guy reruns like around the clock and is home of The George Lopez Show.

Conan lost.

He got a hella deal, though

whatevs, I'll be watching in November.  And then forget about him in December whilst still pledging my allegiance
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 02:39:57 PM
Guys, please keep in mind that TBS is the station that shows Family Guy reruns like around the clock and is home of The George Lopez Show.

Conan lost.

Who gives a shit. I watch TV for entertainment. Not for winners or losers. I get Willco coming from that perspective because he has consistently been looking at it from sort of a business aspect. Which is fine. He's somewhat in that business.

I'm not. So essentially whatever network he is on is the equivalent of sales talk for videogames. All I care about is teh funny and if I get more of teh funny. Not saying it can't be analyzed or joked about. Hell its funny and weird. Conan is on fucking TBS. He gets how absurd that is. He even joked about it.  
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 02:42:41 PM
Be honest, most of you motherfuckers won't be regular viewers anyway. Tons of people jumped on the SAVE COCO bandwagon after contributing to his downfall in the first place -- i.e., not bothering to watch his show when it mattered, when he needed the ratings. I'm admitting right now I'll probably watch the first or second episode and then forget about Conan, like the majority of the American viewing public.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 02:42:56 PM
Again, as a Conan fan people should be happy about this. He would be forced to keep to the more mainstream needs of network TV at 11:00 on FOX. And FOX would never have given him full creative control. Plus FOX is notorious for not wanting to keep shows that are struggling on the air.

TBS gives him the freedom to be as weird as he wants thanks to the less cut throat viewership numbers necessary for cable with his now full creative control.

All this means is Conan will be probably be better than has has since Late Night ended. Am I really the only one who sees this? He isn't going to turn into some TBS-lite show. They are given him complete ownership and control over the program ala Letterman.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2010, 02:43:07 PM
This is like a thread on SOHH full of people arguing why a rapper sucks because he didn't sell x amount of records
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 02:44:05 PM
It doesn't matter what he sold, PD. No one is saying Conan sucks. Just that his network does. :spin
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Tieno on April 12, 2010, 02:44:23 PM
Conan is at his best in the underdog/loser position, which makes this a winner for me.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 02:44:59 PM
If you like Conan who gives a shit what channel is on, all that matters is he is given complete creative control so he can do whatever the hell he wants. Which is great for his style of comedy which was severely restrained till the last week of the Tonight Show. If you are a fan of his that is all that should matter.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 12, 2010, 02:45:57 PM
It doesn't matter what he sold, PD. No one is saying Conan sucks. Just that his network does. :spin

You miss the point. Just as record sales don't matter, networks don't matter either as long as the product is of quality
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 02:46:12 PM
It doesn't matter what he sold, PD. No one is saying Conan sucks. Just that his network does. :spin
Why does it matter what you think of the programming of TBS is though? TBS has nothing to do with this show. They gave him complete ownership of it. He will be filming and doing the show completely separate from TBS, TBS will just put it on the air. Much like how Letterman does his show where his own company does everything and CBS just broadcasts it.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 02:46:45 PM
It's kind of hard to play the underdog card when you're as rich and as sought after as Conan is. I like the guy too but jesus the internet white knight bullshit that has sprouted up since he got shitcanned from NBC is ridiculous. You know who an actual late night underdog is?

(http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/carson-daly.jpg)

Where is all the I'M WITH CARSON t-shirts and shit at? :spin
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 02:47:20 PM
It doesn't matter what he sold, PD. No one is saying Conan sucks. Just that his network does. :spin

You miss the point. Just as record sales don't matter, networks don't matter either as long as the product is of quality
:bow

And the product will be of higher quality than most recent Conan stuff (assuming you enjoy his brand of humor) since unlike on the Tonight Show he will be completely unrestrained from network interference. Conaco will be producing the show completely seperate from the TBS structure much like Worldwide Pants is with CBS for the Letterman show.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 02:47:38 PM
Be honest, most of you motherfuckers won't be regular viewers anyway. Tons of people jumped on the SAVE COCO bandwagon after contributing to his downfall in the first place -- i.e., not bothering to watch his show when it mattered, when he needed the ratings. I'm admitting right now I'll probably watch the first or second episode and then forget about Conan, like the majority of the American viewing public.

I made this exact same post earlier.

Which is why I mostly stayed out of the whole Conan/Leno thing because it was more about taking the hip side rather than being realistic about the situation.

The realistic thing is that I understood why everybody did what everybody did including NBC. Conan is more niche than Leno. He is also about a billion times funnier for my particular sense of humour so that's all that matter. The only thing that's really changed now is that I have to decide whether I want to watch Conan sometimes or Jon Stewart sometimes. And often I simply watch them the next day on the internet anyway. So its all good.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Purple Filth on April 12, 2010, 02:48:42 PM
http://www.deadline.com/2010/04/conan-obrien-makes-tbs-deal/

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A lot of showbiz reporters got it wrong about where Conan would land. They were fixated on Fox and assumed he would only go to a network. But the fact is that, from the very beginning, Team Conan (including his exec producer Jeff Ross, and WME's Rick Rosen and Ari Emanuel, and manager Gavin Palone), were thinking way outside the network box. For instance, there were discussions with Microsoft about an XBox deal for Conan's show that would have broken new ground. And yes, discussions took place with Fox. "But TBS was far more aggressive from the very beginning. They wooed him hard," one insider tells me. "And Conan was incredibly impressed by executives there." Team Conan also liked the strong lead-in of Family Guy and The Office, as well as the prospect that on cable he could have "more freedom to be creatively more exciting," a source tells me. "And then George [Lopez] called Conan and convinced him to do it."

Seems MS was interested in Conan doing something for them.


plus TBS rallied hard for him.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 02:49:59 PM
It doesn't matter what he sold, PD. No one is saying Conan sucks. Just that his network does. :spin

You miss the point. Just as record sales don't matter, networks don't matter either as long as the product is of quality

Except Conan's show has always by and large followed the same stale, boring template as every other late night show on television. I doubt him being given "full creative freedom" means he'll actually do something crazy and new and different. Conan was never a great host; people just act like he was because they wanted something to get pissed off about when NBC fired him.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 02:51:02 PM
And there in lies your issue, you don't enjoy Conan as much as some people. It has nothing to do with the networks or how much he is paid or his ratings, you just don't like his show or late night in general.


Also I do hope him given full control and the freedom of cable means he will mess with the general night show structure a bit.

Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2010, 02:52:03 PM
lmao, he bumps Lopez

I wonder if Lopez will walk away with a 32 million dollar severence?!
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: BlueTsunami on April 12, 2010, 02:52:51 PM
I wonder if they'll bring on Carlos Mencia for a 10 O'Clock variety show
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 02:53:01 PM
And there in lies your issue, you don't enjoy Conan as much as some people. It has nothing to do with the networks or how much he is paid or his ratings, you just don't like his show or late night in general.


Also I do hope him given full control and the freedom of cable means he will mess with the general night show structure a bit.

Exactly. Which is why he was kicked off NBC in the first place. Because even his so-called fans for the most part didn't support him when it mattered, and are now acting like he is some underdog god of television just because it's the cool thing to do.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 02:56:56 PM
Exactly. Which is why he was kicked off NBC in the first place. Because even his so-called fans for the most part didn't support him when it mattered, and are now acting like he is some underdog god of television just because it's the cool thing to do.

Yeah you seem to be completely coming at this from a different angle than I am...

You can like Conan and still be annoyed by hipsters doing the bandwagon move. You can still like Conan and find it funny that he is doing a show on TBS. I don't have to be a contrarion to be annoyed by hipsters.


But if you don't like him you're entitled to that opinion also. I just don't share it. I like him. I'm glad to see him on. And I'll watch. I'm actually more likely to watch now than I was on NBC although obviously that is just based on my viewing habits and not something that extends to the general public.

Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2010, 02:58:20 PM
And there in lies your issue, you don't enjoy Conan as much as some people. It has nothing to do with the networks or how much he is paid or his ratings, you just don't like his show or late night in general.


Also I do hope him given full control and the freedom of cable means he will mess with the general night show structure a bit.

Exactly. Which is why he was kicked off NBC in the first place. Because even his so-called fans for the most part didn't support him when it mattered, and are now acting like he is some underdog god of television just because it's the cool thing to do.

He didn't lose his fans from Late Night to the Tonight Show. He got the same number of viewers, they just weren't enough for that timeslot.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2010, 02:59:03 PM
P.S. I'd watch this over the Daily Show more often than not.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 03:00:38 PM
I'm just laughing at the idea that people don't think him moving from PRIME TIME SLOT ON NBC to hosting a show on fucking TBS is a downgrade. It's delusional.

Yes, the content of the show might not be affected much, but that's not what people are laughing at (including Conan). They're laughing at the fact that TBS is a channel known mostly for showing re-runs of syndicated shows and having their own awful original programming like Lopez's show. Stop getting so defensive. :tbslol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2010, 03:02:58 PM
There's someone who doesn't think this is a downgrade? He should have just taken the NBC 12am slot.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 03:03:15 PM
I still think people are under-estimating just how important him getting the Letterman style deal of full ownership. Letterman produces his own show from his studio and then CBS just aires it. He refuses to even let CBS execs into the studio. Fox would not given Conan that type of deal. TBS did.

Conan will be more free to do what he wants on this than he was even on his Late Night on NBC. And freed up Conan is when Conan is at his best (look at his last week on the Tonight Show when he stopped paying attention to what NBC told him to do or during the writer strike where he had to make it up as he went along).


I don't give a shit what channel it is, I care that he is given more control over his show which thus means it will be funnier. Why would I want the restrained Tonight Show Conan on Fox when I can more Late Night stlye Conan on TBS? I am not a tv exec I don't give a shit what channel logo is in the corner. Why should I?

There's someone who doesn't think this is a downgrade? He should have just taken the NBC 12am slot.
Content wise it would be a downgrade compared to his TBS deal. He didn't have "final cut" as it were at NBC, he does at TBS. Not to mention TBS is giving him more money than NBC did.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 03:04:04 PM
There's someone who doesn't think this is a downgrade? He should have just taken the NBC 12am slot.

Exactly :bow

Fuck, you can't even laugh at the absurdity of it without a legion of fake Conan fanboys jumping down your neck anymore.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 03:04:33 PM
P.S. I'd watch this over the Daily Show more often than not.

I would probably also. Not because I don't enjoy The Daily Show alot but I tend to watch the Daily Show more when big political news is happening.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 03:05:22 PM
There's someone who doesn't think this is a downgrade? He should have just taken the NBC 12am slot.

Exactly :bow

Fuck, you can't even laugh at the absurdity of it without a legion of fake Conan fanboys jumping down your neck anymore.
Since when is a higher budget and more creative control a downgrade?


Fox offered him less money than NBC gave him and no ownership over the program much like at NBC. Should he have taken it just because Fox is a more "prestigious" network? He took the deal that results in a higher quality show. Period.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: drew on April 12, 2010, 03:07:10 PM
Where is all the I'M WITH CARSON t-shirts and shit at? :spin

ive always said i like his show on here, only for the fact that he had gavin mcinnes on as a guest
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
::)

I'm bowing out of this thread, some of you are being fucking ridiculous. Again, no one is saying the show will suck. They are saying this is a downgrade, which it is, and that TBS sucks. How you can even debate that is beyond me. I didn't know I lived in a world where people gave a fuck about TBS; oh wait, no they don't. They only pretend to because Conan is moving there.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2010, 03:10:06 PM
There's someone who doesn't think this is a downgrade? He should have just taken the NBC 12am slot.

Exactly :bow

Fuck, you can't even laugh at the absurdity of it without a legion of fake Conan fanboys jumping down your neck anymore.
Since when is a higher budget and more creative control a downgrade?


Fox offered him less money than NBC gave him and no ownership over the program much like at NBC. Should he have taken it just because Fox is a more "prestigious" network? He took the deal that results in a higher quality show. more money. Period.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 03:10:59 PM
There's someone who doesn't think this is a downgrade? He should have just taken the NBC 12am slot.

Exactly :bow

Fuck, you can't even laugh at the absurdity of it without a legion of fake Conan fanboys jumping down your neck anymore.
Since when is a higher budget and more creative control a downgrade?


Fox offered him less money than NBC gave him and no ownership over the program much like at NBC. Should he have taken it just because Fox is a more "prestigious" network? He took the deal that results in a higher quality show. more money. Period.

Full ownership = better show. Conan has proved time and time again he is at his best when he is unrestrained.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 03:11:38 PM
Cheebs straight talk, yo
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2010, 03:13:44 PM
::)

I'm bowing out of this thread, some of you are being fucking ridiculous. Again, no one is saying the show will suck. They are saying this is a downgrade, which it is, and that TBS sucks. How you can even debate that is beyond me. I didn't know I lived in a world where people gave a fuck about TBS; oh wait, no they don't. They only pretend to because Conan is moving there.

No one is overly debating either of those positions.

1.) TBS isn't hip
2.) TBS isn't a prestigious network.
3.) Those two things could certainly mean "downgrade" in many context to some people.

The first joke Conan made is essentialy this very joke.

Some people care about it on that level. Some people don't because all they care about is the actual show. No one is saying you can't crack wise in either direction.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2010, 03:16:12 PM
There's someone who doesn't think this is a downgrade? He should have just taken the NBC 12am slot.

Exactly :bow

Fuck, you can't even laugh at the absurdity of it without a legion of fake Conan fanboys jumping down your neck anymore.
Since when is a higher budget and more creative control a downgrade?


Fox offered him less money than NBC gave him and no ownership over the program much like at NBC. Should he have taken it just because Fox is a more "prestigious" network? He took the deal that results in a higher quality show. more money. Period.

Full ownership = better show. Conan has proved time and time again he is at his best when he is unrestrained.

Yea but that's not why he took the deal.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 03:19:52 PM
Yeah he took it for more money than Fox was offering no one is denying that was his motivating factor but what I care about is the element that results in a better show.

We aren't in the business why the hell should we care about ratings or the prestige of one channel over the other? People stop acting like tv critics, we aren't working for Variety here.

TBS is far from cool. It's a basic cable channel. Obviously. But my point (and others) is Conan is being given full ownership over the program resulted in Conan doing whatever show he wants to do without the weight of trying to tone it down to fit the Tonight Show legacy or NBC exec wishes. Conan gets to do whatever he wants on a nighlty basis. He can be as weird as he wants because of the less pressure to appeal to a wider audience beyond his niche. His niche audience is good enough for TBS. All of this adds up to Conan being funnier for Conan has shown many many times in the past is funniest when he doesn't give a shit. As during the last week of tonight or the writers strike...etc.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2010, 03:21:26 PM
It's funny to see both you and Shake shadowboxing opposite views in the same thread. You guys should just respond to each other instead of the more reasonable bystanders.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 03:31:06 PM
In terms of his career, it's a downgrade. End of story.

As a fan, you can argue that it might result in better material - but the bottom line is that he is moving from the The Tonight Show to basic cable.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 03:32:09 PM
In terms of his career, it's a downgrade. End of story.

As a fan, you can argue that it might result in better material - but the bottom line is that he is moving from the The Tonight Show to basic cable.
I don't disagree with any of those points, its just all that matters to me as a fan is better material and full control is more likely to result in that than the deal Fox was putting forth.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 03:33:07 PM
In terms of his career, it's a downgrade. End of story.

As a fan, you can argue that it might result in better material - but the bottom line is that he is moving from the The Tonight Show to basic cable.

Willco, telling it like it is :bow
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 03:34:39 PM
In terms of his career, it's a downgrade. End of story.

As a fan, you can argue that it might result in better material - but the bottom line is that he is moving from the The Tonight Show to basic cable.

Willco, telling it like it is :bow
Yep. Downgrade in prestigious of the show and channel but arguably it will be a far funnier show. :bow
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 03:35:07 PM
No one cares if it will be funnier, because no one will be watching. :tbslol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 03:37:04 PM
Quote from: Nikki Finke
Team Conan also liked the strong lead-in of Family Guy and The Office, as well as the prospect that on cable he could have "more freedom to be creatively more exciting," a source tells us. "And then George [Lopez] called Conan and convinced him to do it."

Conan passes on both networks that produce those shows to go to the network that airs the reruns - what a great lead-in! :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 03:37:51 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 12, 2010, 03:39:22 PM
No one cares if it will be funnier, because no one will be watching. :tbslol
I should care what other people watch?
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 03:39:45 PM
No one cares if it will be funnier, because no one will be watching. :tbslol
I should care what other people watch?
Other people not watching is why Conan got the boot in the first place :teehee
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 03:41:10 PM
Does Conan's target demographic even know TBS exists? They couldn't even find NBC!

... He should just move his show to FunnyOrDie.com at this rate, more people would actually watch it. :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 12, 2010, 03:43:25 PM
This may be the first time in history that I actually watch something on TBS. Do I even get TBS? I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 03:43:37 PM
I remember telling Cheebs I wouldn't be surprised to see Conan doing a web show like Tom Green in lieu of being on an actual network. I still think that would probably be better (and more creatively freeing :-*) than this TBS stuff.

But I guess at least with the TBS show he can use his regular crew and ensure they continue to get paying gigs. Lord knows Conan doesn't need the money.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 03:47:16 PM
After Conan gets dumped by TBS once they realize that his target demographic of baked high school/college students and slacker twenty-somethings don't actually watch television, he'll be able to pick from YouTube or Hulu. :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 03:52:20 PM
Wait, are you serious?  I'd argue those same stoned teen/tweens that you're referring are the ones that watch the Family Guy and Office reruns.  It has one of the highest 18-49 demographic ratings of any cable network!
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 03:53:11 PM
Wow, of any cable network? :o









You guys. :rofl
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 03:54:24 PM
I can't wait for BrandNew to go nuts on Twitter after Conan's show beats out reruns of Man vs. Food in the ratings.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 03:58:03 PM
Why would I care?  He'll get his usual demographic and then some with this move.  Regardless of whether or not he's on a main network, this was a good move for him for content and financial reasons.  As much as I'd like to see him facing off against Leno, I don't care where he is.  You shouldn't either.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 04:00:07 PM
He'll get his usual demographic and then some with this move.

Yes, he'll definitely get a bump in the ratings by moving from network television to basic cable. :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 04:02:07 PM
That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying he'll get even more viewership within his core demographic.  You're putting words in my mouth because you love to rag on me.  It's cool, I know ya'll like when I bitch.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 04:03:04 PM
Moving from NBC to TBS doesn't mean Conan will get MORE viewers. Maybe the first week or so, but after that? Stop kidding yourselves. :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 04:06:18 PM
So much for bowing out, Shake.

And also, lulz at people still thinking Conan's going to take Letterman's place.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 04:07:57 PM
Eh, there's no other threads here with anything going on. Plus it's fun to see Conan "fans" jumping through hoops to paint this as some fantastic news. :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 04:09:20 PM
It's good news for me because I get to watch him, it's good news for him because he's getting fucking paid.  That seems like all around decent news that came out of a really shitty situation.

I'ma pull a Shake and "bow out" before I endure the wrath of the Jew, though.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2010, 04:09:21 PM
I'm a Conan fan and I don't think it's great news outside of the fact he can now do whatever he wants, except now with a much, much smaller budget. I was rooting for Fox.

But like Brand New I'm just glad to see he has a new show.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 04:15:24 PM
:bow
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 04:27:30 PM
Himumu:

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/how-tbs-out-foxed-fox-why-cocos-going-cable-16206 (http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/how-tbs-out-foxed-fox-why-cocos-going-cable-16206)

Quote
Overall, the budget for O'Brien's TBS show will likely be the same as it would've been at Fox. But since the show will be four days vs. five, it will go further.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2010, 04:28:41 PM
Oh nice.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 12, 2010, 04:29:33 PM
But is it the same as he had at NBC? And is he likely to get the same guests? Again, the TBS thing is tricky.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
Well obviously it won't have the same budget as TTS, but I can't imagine it being significantly lower.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TEEEPO on April 12, 2010, 04:37:52 PM
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO LIVE FOREVER?
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Barry Egan on April 12, 2010, 06:06:20 PM
Quote
So this means on Mondays and Tuesday nights it'll be (Starting at 5:30, if the schedule stays the same) an hour of Friends, half hour of The Office, an hour of Seinfeld, 3 hours of either The Office or Family Guy, then Conan.
:lol

Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2010, 07:33:30 PM
Wow...fucking TBS....wow.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 12, 2010, 08:03:11 PM
lololololol

Downgrade total.  Will still watch show because I like Conan, and with full creative control it has a chance of being funnier.  But don't delude yourselves- this is a downgrade.  But whatever, fans shouldn't give a shit.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 08:19:50 PM
He doesn't have anyone to answer to here, either, really.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Barry Egan on April 12, 2010, 08:23:58 PM
Conan is a rich motherfucker, why he didn't just invest in starting an online show like Tom Green is beyond me. He could have done something really special having nobody to answer to.

Conan isn't nearly as subversive as his fans wish he was.  Remember when people really thought Conan had bought that fancy car on NBCs dime?  Yea. 
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: pilonv1 on April 12, 2010, 09:09:05 PM
I wonder if this means we can get him on Inside the NBA now!? :hyper
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Ichirou on April 12, 2010, 09:21:31 PM
Why didn't he move to TNT or Turner Classic Movies?  Makes about as much sense as this move.

I can just imagine Leno reading about this and laughing his ass off.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 12, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
The only thing worse than TBS is if Conan went to TV Land or Animal Planet. :rofl
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 12, 2010, 09:45:11 PM
Who said Conan having total control would make a better show? Probably be worse.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 12, 2010, 10:11:04 PM
You obviously never watched the writer's strike episodes
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 12, 2010, 10:17:15 PM
The only thing worse than TBS is if Conan went to TV Land or Animal Planet. :rofl

Nah, it would be worse if he ended up at TruTV or the Golf Channel.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Fresh Prince on April 12, 2010, 10:25:48 PM
You obviously never watched the writer's strike episodes
Yes thanks to people like me, Conan got the shaft!
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 12, 2010, 10:32:03 PM
Apparently Conan's first reaction after getting the offer was that he didn't want to fuck over Lopez (and who hasn't wanted to, really?), only until he personally assured Conan that him as a leadin at 12 would be better than whatever he's doing at 11 did Conan sign on.

:bow Conan O'thestandupguy :bow2

:piss Conan hater distinguished effete fellows :piss2
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2010, 10:33:27 PM
The only thing worse than TBS is if Conan went to TV Land or Animal Planet. :rofl
:lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 13, 2010, 12:37:05 AM
I would watch a Conan show on Animal Planet, if it involved him interviewing animals and shit. :bow
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Ichirou on April 13, 2010, 12:38:01 AM
Like Brian Fellow :bow
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Shins on April 13, 2010, 12:43:22 AM
Love Conan, didn't watch him on NBC, won't watch him on TBS. Look forward to new random youtube clips and hope his twitter is maintained because that's the one daily thing I've ever kept up with him on.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: TakingBackSunday on April 13, 2010, 01:23:22 AM
you're terrible  :'(
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 13, 2010, 01:23:47 AM
you're terrible  :'(

No, he's an honest Conan fan. :-*
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 14, 2010, 07:35:06 AM
Maybe his newfound fans will actually watch this show but who are we kidding?  :lenowned

Love Conan, didn't watch him on NBC, won't watch him on TBS. Look forward to new random youtube clips and hope his twitter is maintained because that's the one daily thing I've ever kept up with him on.

You are really his target audience.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: brawndolicious on April 14, 2010, 09:01:41 AM
how much of a budget would you even need for this show anyways?
 
mostly just shat jokes and celebs plugging junk.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on April 14, 2010, 09:45:27 AM
Isn't this exactly what he wants? Having a talk show is a hobby to him now. He doesn't need money anymore after NBC bought him off. This is a venue for him to enjoy a low-pressure opportunity to do what he likes, and he gets long weekends. Can't imagine he's too upset about it.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 14, 2010, 09:49:47 AM
Also here is a big reason why this is good for him. We may all mock TBS but it is the second highest viewed cable channel in the 18-49 demo:
Net   Adults 18-49 (000)
USA   1,292
TBS   1,017
TNT   966
ESPN   830
AEN   795
FX   730
HIST   713
DISC   650
FAM   649
TRU   602

Same with 18-34 (where it crushes Comedy Central, a channel that didn't even rank in the top 10 for 18-49. The channel most wanted him to go to if he didn't go to Fox):
Net   Adults 18-34 (000)
USA   584
TBS   577
MTV   451
TNT   445
ESPN   411
FX   383
AEN   351
CMDY   349
FAM   349
DISC   312
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on April 14, 2010, 09:51:40 AM
Never doubt the power of Sienfeld and Friends re-runs.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 14, 2010, 09:58:13 AM
It's kinda crazy how those rerurns crush original programming. I have a feeling we'll still be seeing Seinfeld in syndication in 30 years.  :lol

I do admit to sometimes watching Seinfeld reruns on TBS despite owning them on DVD. Mostly because a few years ago every episode of Seinfeld was remastered and only TBS airs these new masters and they look amazing in HD.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on April 14, 2010, 10:00:08 AM
Definitely. Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld couldn't be poor even if they wanted to be.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 14, 2010, 10:00:34 AM
... It's cable, Cheebs.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 14, 2010, 10:01:38 AM
... It's cable, Cheebs.
It's a major downgrade from NBC and Fox. I will never argue with you there.  But it is a far better position than being on adult swim or comedy central or something which a lot of people were hoping for.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on April 14, 2010, 10:05:45 AM
This position would be shit for basically anyone else. I can see why someone with a career they were trying to advance would be angry, but Conan doesn't have to strive for shit. He gets a desk, an audience, and a show that will be INCREDIBLY difficult for him to lose.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 14, 2010, 10:07:50 AM
If he holds his niche audience TBS will be more than happy. The President of Turner says they expect this show to be on for at least 10 years. Conan will be fine.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Tauntaun on April 14, 2010, 10:49:37 AM
Hopefully a big step up.  More skits, less shitty celebrities and uncomfortable monologues will make this a winner.  Will definitely be watching youtube  clips.

(http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/avatars/cohendealwithitavatar.gif)
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 14, 2010, 10:55:14 AM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/conan-to-join-tbs,17261/
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Tauntaun on April 14, 2010, 01:09:28 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/conan-to-join-tbs,17261/

 :lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: drew on April 14, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
its somewhat ironic to post this because he has a problem with his stuff being on youtube but

[youtube=560,345]SUfT5VzLF0g[/youtube]

you guys wouldnt hear it unless someone did
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 14, 2010, 03:19:26 PM
Stern gets it :bow

Conan should have stayed at NBC. I mean it's good that he had the balls to tell NBC to go fuck themselves, but it only ended up working poorly for him. :-\
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: drew on April 14, 2010, 03:23:24 PM
he is the nostradamus of show business, he warned conan that leno would never really let the tonight show go, and as long as were talking about predictions he was off by two weeks on the jim carrey breakup :bow2
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 14, 2010, 03:28:48 PM
Stern says what I said all along, this was the kiss of death for Conan.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 14, 2010, 10:54:08 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjADkqD0NH8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Himu on April 14, 2010, 10:59:45 PM
"Darren Bell
Impregnator Operator
"That's great, because when you think of TBS, you think of comedy. Well, you think of repeated Shawshank Redemption airings first, then the Atlanta Braves, but then you think of comedy."

:rofl
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 14, 2010, 11:18:38 PM
:lol @ that intro video
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 14, 2010, 11:24:46 PM
he is the nostradamus of show business, he warned conan that leno would never really let the tonight show go, and as long as were talking about predictions he was off by two weeks on the jim carrey breakup :bow2

He's wrong about all of Letterman's Conan-era gains being gone though. Letterman and Leno are closer than they've been in years.

What's the best place to go for Howard downloads now? They seem to have evaporated
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Himu on April 14, 2010, 11:29:30 PM
:lol @ that intro video

:lol
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on April 15, 2010, 11:25:28 AM
yeah, Howard Stern totally nailed it.

I mean, who in their right mind would abandon a traditional network system for a much narrower audience of people who buy a premium service, whereby you get more creative freedom and big fat payday.

I mean, WHO would do that.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 15, 2010, 11:30:15 AM
Two things on that. Stern and Conan have completely different audiences, and very different situations, so they're not even comparable. And while the move away from terrestrial radio might have benefited his fans, can anyone argue that Stern's exposure hasn't taken a dramatic hit?

I mean, when I was a kid, he was The King of All Media. There was Howard Stern and then there was everyone else. Now he's just some old guy on that satellite radio service your parents' pay for (probably in their Prius or other overpiced vehicle).
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 15, 2010, 11:31:34 AM
Oprah is leaving network tv and taking her show to basic cable too :shh
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Human Snorenado on April 15, 2010, 11:47:59 AM
Uh, there's a difference there.  Oprah's getting her own NETWORK.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 15, 2010, 11:50:15 AM
All in due time for Conan.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 15, 2010, 12:00:38 PM
Is the O Network on tv now? Her channel she is switching her talk show to? I don't think I have ever seen it.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Himu on April 15, 2010, 12:01:54 PM
"O Network" :rofl
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Diunx on April 15, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
http://www.hulu.com/watch/142271/the-tonight-show-with-jay-leno-nicolas-cage-part-2

Nic Cage vs Adam West in Batman trivia.

:bow :lenowned :bow2
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 15, 2010, 01:03:22 PM
stern flip-flops all the time depending on what gets him the most quoted airplay 

before he went full-on assault on leno he was saying conan should have just taken the 12 am slot

i like stern, but he said himself years ago that the only side he's ever on is his own
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Tauntaun on April 15, 2010, 01:28:54 PM
Leno is so awful.  Tracy Morgan on the other hand.  :rofl
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 15, 2010, 02:18:59 PM
Really?
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: The Dark Shake 3000 on April 15, 2010, 03:24:19 PM
Stern arguably fell off hardest of all. He got a big payday out of it, but moving from normal radio to subscription based satellite killed a large portion of his fanbase, and his relevance.
Title: Re: Conan's new show announced...
Post by: Cheebs on April 15, 2010, 03:53:52 PM
It may be her own channel but I suspect Oprah will lose a lot of her sway and relevance from going to cable as well much like Stern (and I guess Conan but was he really wasn't that relevant before the huge dust up with NBC).