I now firmly believe that NO developer, outside of maybe Nintendo, Valve and Blizzard, has any kind of honor. That´s just...ridiculous. Could have stayed with Microsoft...
holy shit, I'm gonna have enough bitter tears to subsist on for years.Selig is such a huge fuckwit . :lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21021629&postcount=74
yes! Honor! The emotional rollercoaster that is the video game industry, where the only currency of value is loyalty!
Bungie, the developer of blockbuster game franchises including Halo, Myth and Marathon, and Activision, a wholly owned subsidiary of Activision Blizzard, the #1 online games publisher (Nasdaq: ATVI), announced today that they have entered into an exclusive 10-year partnership to bring Bungie’s next big action game universe to market. Under the terms of the agreement, Activision will have exclusive, worldwide rights to publish and distribute all future Bungie games based on the new intellectual property on multiple platforms and devices. Bungie remains an independent company and will continue to own their intellectual property. Additional terms of the agreement were not disclosed.
Activision will broaden its portfolio with a new franchise from one of the industry’s most creative, successful and proven studios, whose games have sold more than 25 million units worldwide. To date, Bungie’s Halo games have generated approximately $1.5 billion in revenues, according to The NPD Group, Charttrack and GfK. Activision expects this agreement to be accretive to its operating margins as of the release of the first game.
“We chose to partner with Activision on our next IP because of their global reach, multi-platform experience and marketing expertise,” said Harold Ryan, President of Bungie. “From working together over the past nine months on this agreement, it is clear that Activision supports our commitment to giving our fans the best possible gaming experiences.”
so a developer who's famous for boring gray fps has joined a developer who's famous for boring gray fps?
mmmmmeeeeehhhhh
wake me up when they announce a new igavania or somethingQuoteI now firmly believe that NO developer, outside of maybe Nintendo, Valve and Blizzard, has any kind of honor. That´s just...ridiculous. Could have stayed with Microsoft...
well ok this made me chuckle :lol
i thought part of getting out of the MS thing was because they felt they "weren't getting the financial benefits of their hard work"
I mean... i hear Activision are just SWELL with those sort of payments!
I also assume that whatever this is that MS had first refusal and, well, refused?
I wonder if some people from Bungie will jump ship to 343i after Reach.
343 is working for quite some time on a new game...for 360
I wonder if some people from Bungie will jump ship to 343i after Reach.
343 is working for quite some time on a new game...for 360
I don't understand why this is so unexpected.
So what did Activision do to Infinity Ward?
Halo 4 on PC baby 8)
I don't understand why this is so unexpected. Yeah, Activision has a bad rap in the gaming community, but an amazing distribution reach and a proven marketing record. If you're a company like Bungie that has the chops and you need someone to push your wares, there probably isn't a better choice than Activision.
But are they gonna be puking out CoD games?
I don't understand why this is so unexpected. Yeah, Activision has a bad rap in the gaming community, but an amazing distribution reach and a proven marketing record. If you're a company like Bungie that has the chops and you need someone to push your wares, there probably isn't a better choice than Activision.
But are they gonna be puking out CoD games?
because it is fun to watch people attach personalities onto companies. Things like how Remedy is a liar, Square-Enix is a traitor, Nintendo is Jesus-Zeus, and a bunch of stuff about Ubisoft.
I don't know how Blur will sell, but Activision seems pretty popular. Even Prototype sold a lot and that was just a lot of brown and boring. But then again, wasn't that developer screwed over or something?
I don't understand why this is so unexpected. Yeah, Activision has a bad rap in the gaming community, but an amazing distribution reach and a proven marketing record. If you're a company like Bungie that has the chops and you need someone to push your wares, there probably isn't a better choice than Activision.
But are they gonna be puking out CoD games?
because it is fun to watch people attach personalities onto companies. Things like how Remedy is a liar, Square-Enix is a traitor, Nintendo is Jesus-Zeus, and a bunch of stuff about Ubisoft.
I don't know how Blur will sell, but Activision seems pretty popular. Even Prototype sold a lot and that was just a lot of brown and boring. But then again, wasn't that developer screwed over or something?
This.
Certain gamers love to follow their companies like they follow their sports teams instead of just understanding that its a business. So they over create villains and saints. Activision isn't currently the top dog villain. And bungie is one of the saints. So their brains can't comprehend why a saint would get together with a villain. It's :lol
We also asked whether the wording of the announcement - a 10-year deal for games connected with a new IP, rather than a game-specific deal - might mean that Bungie's new project is massively-multiplayer.
"I can't get into specifics, but we're definitely looking at building a universe that people want to spend time in," Jarrard said.
"Much like Halo but we have much more grandiose vision here, so it's a long-term partnership for us. We're really embarking on something that will be a significant undertaking for the studio that will involve multiple games set inside this brand new IP and universe.
"But clearly Activision does have good experience running large-scale universes over a long period of time, so that was one appealing attribute that drew us to them."
I wonder if some people from Bungie will jump ship to 343i after Reach.
343 is working for quite some time on a new game...for 360
I'm sure some will but the whole point of the split was that they wanted to work on something new. I'm sure a lot of people at that company share that feeling.
I wonder if some people from Bungie will jump ship to 343i after Reach.
343 is working for quite some time on a new game...for 360
I'm sure some will but the whole point of the split was that they wanted to work on something new. I'm sure a lot of people at that company share that feeling.
No.
Actually, the whole point of the Split is Bungie wanted to be independent. Because they wanna be getting all the money MS was making from Halo. Which is why Jason Jones and whatever have spent most of their time creating this "universe" for their next IP.
It's all because of money. If MS's thing was to have Bungie work on Halo forever, they wouldn't have let them go would they?
The only surprising thing here is this 10 year plan crap.
Eurogamer has some interesting interviewsQuoteWe also asked whether the wording of the announcement - a 10-year deal for games connected with a new IP, rather than a game-specific deal - might mean that Bungie's new project is massively-multiplayer.
"I can't get into specifics, but we're definitely looking at building a universe that people want to spend time in," Jarrard said.
"Much like Halo but we have much more grandiose vision here, so it's a long-term partnership for us. We're really embarking on something that will be a significant undertaking for the studio that will involve multiple games set inside this brand new IP and universe.
"But clearly Activision does have good experience running large-scale universes over a long period of time, so that was one appealing attribute that drew us to them."
MMO?
I wonder if some people from Bungie will jump ship to 343i after Reach.
343 is working for quite some time on a new game...for 360
I'm sure some will but the whole point of the split was that they wanted to work on something new. I'm sure a lot of people at that company share that feeling.
No.
Actually, the whole point of the Split is Bungie wanted to be independent. Because they wanna be getting all the money MS was making from Halo. Which is why Jason Jones and whatever have spent most of their time creating this "universe" for their next IP.
It's all because of money. If MS's thing was to have Bungie work on Halo forever, they wouldn't have let them go would they?
I'm sure a big portion of it does have to do with money but I won't pretend to know the specifics of their money situation with Microsoft or Activision. I'll just make friendly wager with you that whenever this Bungie IP does come out, it won't have Call of Duty branding and it won't simply be a Call of Duty reskin in space.
The only surprising thing here is this 10 year plan crap.
Eurogamer has some interesting interviewsQuoteWe also asked whether the wording of the announcement - a 10-year deal for games connected with a new IP, rather than a game-specific deal - might mean that Bungie's new project is massively-multiplayer.
"I can't get into specifics, but we're definitely looking at building a universe that people want to spend time in," Jarrard said.
"Much like Halo but we have much more grandiose vision here, so it's a long-term partnership for us. We're really embarking on something that will be a significant undertaking for the studio that will involve multiple games set inside this brand new IP and universe.
"But clearly Activision does have good experience running large-scale universes over a long period of time, so that was one appealing attribute that drew us to them."
MMO?
It sounds like they are expanding on what they have been doing with the Halo games. Like with ODST, you fight the conflict as part of an ODST squad and with Reach you're with that Spartan group. Halo 1-3 were about you being Master Chief going around and taking care of shit (and that Elite in 2) while the newer games are about squads and being more average.
I think it would be neat if they expand on that and make it almost like a Tom Clancy type franchise. Just like how Tom Clancy carry that brand, you have Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, HAWX, RUSE, EndWar, etc. If they plan it all out and have it fit together at the start, that could be pretty cool.
Sony’s said in a statement that today’s announcement of Bungie’s new ten-year deal to have its new IP published by Activision on various platforms as “great news for gamers”.“This is great news for all gamers,” said SCEA comms boss Patrick Seybold. “When Bungie’s amazing talent and creative minds are unleashed and married with the incredible power of PlayStation 3, amazing things will happen. Ultimately, as a gamer, if you want the best content available from the industry’s most renowned developers, today’s announcement further signifies that PlayStation 3 will be the only place to get it.”It further reads: “With last years amazing and award winning PS3 titles, to the roadmap and surprises we have for this year, the momentum for PS3 and PSN continues. I think I speak for everyone, when I say I can’t wait to learn about this new IP and world that Bungie is creating.”
lulz. Sony gloating already.QuoteSony’s said in a statement that today’s announcement of Bungie’s new ten-year deal to have its new IP published by Activision on various platforms as “great news for gamers”.“This is great news for all gamers,” said SCEA comms boss Patrick Seybold. “When Bungie’s amazing talent and creative minds are unleashed and married with the incredible power of PlayStation 3, amazing things will happen. Ultimately, as a gamer, if you want the best content available from the industry’s most renowned developers, today’s announcement further signifies that PlayStation 3 will be the only place to get it.”It further reads: “With last years amazing and award winning PS3 titles, to the roadmap and surprises we have for this year, the momentum for PS3 and PSN continues. I think I speak for everyone, when I say I can’t wait to learn about this new IP and world that Bungie is creating.”
:smug
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21021629&postcount=74
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21021629&postcount=74
Honour?
I'm dying here! :lol I love it
Halo franchise owned.
Doesn't MS own the Halo licence? I wonder how shitty the Halo's after Halo Reach will be :lol
[img]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t103/tafer/2lazqsj.gif[img]Hot pussy on pussy action. :drool
lulz. Sony gloating already.QuoteSony’s said in a statement that today’s announcement of Bungie’s new ten-year deal to have its new IP published by Activision on various platforms as “great news for gamers”.“This is great news for all gamers,” said SCEA comms boss Patrick Seybold. “When Bungie’s amazing talent and creative minds are unleashed and married with the incredible power of PlayStation 3, amazing things will happen. Ultimately, as a gamer, if you want the best content available from the industry’s most renowned developers, today’s announcement further signifies that PlayStation 3 will be the only place to get it.”It further reads: “With last years amazing and award winning PS3 titles, to the roadmap and surprises we have for this year, the momentum for PS3 and PSN continues. I think I speak for everyone, when I say I can’t wait to learn about this new IP and world that Bungie is creating.”
:smug
Does Bungie own the rights to Marathon?
This.It's not really about this at all. It's simply surprising to see Bungie jump into the arms of a publisher that has notoriously abused its development houses and run franchises into the ground. They left Microsoft behind for additional freedom, I thought, so this seems rather suspect.
Certain gamers love to follow their companies like they follow their sports teams instead of just understanding that its a business. So they over create villains and saints. Activision isn't currently the top dog villain. And bungie is one of the saints. So their brains can't comprehend why a saint would get together with a villain. It'
Speaking this morning to Activision Chief Operating Officer Thomas Tippl, I asked him if it was possible that the new Bungie title would require a subscription.
"We are not ready at this point to talk about the business model of the game," he said. "Bungie has been working on this project for awhile and have a well thought-out business model behind it.
"It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that online is where the industry is going," he added. "The online component of Bungie's games has always been very important to everyone."
"Online should be expected to be a big part of their next game."
QuoteThis.It's not really about this at all. It's simply surprising to see Bungie jump into the arms of a publisher that has notoriously abused its development houses and run franchises into the ground. They left Microsoft behind for additional freedom, I thought, so this seems rather suspect.
Certain gamers love to follow their companies like they follow their sports teams instead of just understanding that its a business. So they over create villains and saints. Activision isn't currently the top dog villain. And bungie is one of the saints. So their brains can't comprehend why a saint would get together with a villain. It'
But isn't this just a publishing and distribution deal? It's not like they are going to own Bungie or their IP.QuoteThis.It's not really about this at all. It's simply surprising to see Bungie jump into the arms of a publisher that has notoriously abused its development houses and run franchises into the ground. They left Microsoft behind for additional freedom, I thought, so this seems rather suspect.
Certain gamers love to follow their companies like they follow their sports teams instead of just understanding that its a business. So they over create villains and saints. Activision isn't currently the top dog villain. And bungie is one of the saints. So their brains can't comprehend why a saint would get together with a villain. It'
But isn't this just a publishing and distribution deal? It's not like they are going to own Bungie or their IP.QuoteThis.It's not really about this at all. It's simply surprising to see Bungie jump into the arms of a publisher that has notoriously abused its development houses and run franchises into the ground. They left Microsoft behind for additional freedom, I thought, so this seems rather suspect.
Certain gamers love to follow their companies like they follow their sports teams instead of just understanding that its a business. So they over create villains and saints. Activision isn't currently the top dog villain. And bungie is one of the saints. So their brains can't comprehend why a saint would get together with a villain. It'
From KotakuQuoteSpeaking this morning to Activision Chief Operating Officer Thomas Tippl, I asked him if it was possible that the new Bungie title would require a subscription.
"We are not ready at this point to talk about the business model of the game," he said. "Bungie has been working on this project for awhile and have a well thought-out business model behind it.
"It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that online is where the industry is going," he added. "The online component of Bungie's games has always been very important to everyone."
"Online should be expected to be a big part of their next game."
MMOFPS... :usavich
"See, it's called PITCHFORK, and it's set on this weird trident-shaped planet. Our hero, Commander Boss, wears this wicked performance-enhancing helmet and armor, and is aided by a tiny spirit named Hellena. We're going with a red color scheme."
the posts read oddly like break-ups/rejections. What did he offer her that I could not?!! Why is she going with that asshole?!! I could've treated her so nicely!!
I still don't understand why Bungie left MS. I'm sure MS would offer them a huge bonus if they'd stayed. But still, Bungie wanted (desperately) out.
Bungie would've never become popular if it weren't for MS. And vice versa. Halo franchise became big thanks to MS' deep pockets.
I still don't understand why Bungie left MS. I'm sure MS would offer them a huge bonus if they'd stayed. But still, Bungie wanted (desperately) out.
Bungie would've never become popular if it weren't for MS. And vice versa. Halo franchise became big thanks to MS' deep pockets.
But still, they've signed a 10-year contract with Activision. That's a pretty stupid thing to do after you left a publisher because you didn't like the way they handled your stuff.
What if they get tired of Activision after a few years?
I think Bungie is pretty much fucked. I'm sure the team will be disbanded soon. Activision basically made a RARE purchase.
strange that you think bungie is greedy? Theres anecdotal evidence to the contrary right here! http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21021685&postcount=103I still don't understand why Bungie left MS. I'm sure MS would offer them a huge bonus if they'd stayed. But still, Bungie wanted (desperately) out.Bungie is run by greedy people, like all successful companies are. And they want to own it, and instead of MS getting the money, they wanna be the ones getting it.
Bungie would've never become popular if it weren't for MS. And vice versa. Halo franchise became big thanks to MS' deep pockets.
Reach looks like a pretty solid game, actually. Not something bare bones like ODST.
My guess is that their next game is going to be some sort of sci-fi adventure game since they of course love that setting, but maybe not a fps after a fucking decade of Halo. They can keep plenty of fans like me sucking on their teet as long as they make a good game. Plastering "From the developers of Halo" on the box is all that Activision is after.
Don't know if they can do that. They are using the name halo to sell a non MS game.
Like movies, normally you only see "From the creator of" when the studio owns both.
guerrilla games is fine too...
The meme about Hitler raging about something isn't dead yet! :hyper
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/29196
What did microsoft do to push these guys away like this?maybe the whole halo franchise?
:rofl
you know i was thinking
imagine the drama if bungie made a wii game
Although Bungie's 10-year partnership deal with Activision is primarily tied to the Halo developer's new as-yet-unnamed action game, that doesn't mean that they won't be working more closely with Activision's other developers.
Speaking with UGO.com today, Bungie community manager Brian Jarrard said that the developer could be tapped to work on Activision titles.
"It's a discussion that might come up, but they partnered with us specifically based on the vision that we have, and the universe and games that we want to bring to the world in the next decade," he said. "Who's to know if there are other discussions where we have chances to work together in other areas, but that wasn't one of the core talking points in making this deal."
When asked if any backend technology developed during the deal would be owned by Bungie or Activision, Jarrard explained that the ownership might be in a "gray area."
"It's pretty hard to quantify because there might be stuff that we specifically do for us, and there might be stuff that stems from collaboration that leverages some technology that they might already have," he said. "I don’t think I can definitively say 'yes' or 'no' to that. I think it's going to be a degree of gray there that it’s just going to be on a case-by-case basis."
However, Jarrad did say that he thinks Bungie will be taking advantage of Activision's experience in multiplatform development.
"We have the opportunity to tap into their expertise and knowledge base certainly when it comes to things like multi-platform development that we, honestly, don't have a lot of current experience with."
As far as what platforms Bungie will develop for using Activision's multi-platform expertise, Jarrard said, "We've considered looking hard at any platform that makes sense for the kind of game that we're trying to make."
According to people familiar with the situation, the publicly released terms of the Bungie deal are similar to the one that former Infinity Ward heads Jason West and Vincent Zampella were seeking before talks broke down and they were fired for alleged breach of contract in attempting to form their own company. They have since signed a deal with Activision’s chief rival, Electronic Arts Inc.
“It’s astonishing how much money Activision had to pay to cover up its horns and pitchforks with a halo,” quipped Bobby Schwartz, West and Zampella’s attorney.
But still, they've signed a 10-year contract with Activision. That's a pretty stupid thing to do after you left a publisher because you didn't like the way they handled your stuff.
What if they get tired of Activision after a few years?
I think Bungie is pretty much fucked. I'm sure the team will be disbanded soon. Activision basically made a RARE purchase.
I'm having a great time right now and looking forward.
I don't see what the big deal is. Bungie made 1 good game.
Myth?
I'm having a great time right now and looking forward.
Me too, can't wait until I have some more free time to jump back in.
Games like Red Dead Redemption and LA Noire wouldn't have been possible before.
I can finally say that Bungie is an overrated developer without being attacked.
I'm having a great time right now and looking forward.
Me too, can't wait until I have some more free time to jump back in.
Games like Red Dead Redemption and LA Noire wouldn't have been possible before.
+Just Cause 2!
LA Noire came out already? I all remember was seeing one trailer a couple of years ago.
Bungie had no option but to sign with Activision, the publisher's CEO has suggested.
"When they started the process of looking for a new partner they had a vision for a kind of product they wanted to create that needed certain skills and capabilities," Bobby Kotick told an audience at the Bank of America Merrill Lynch's Media, Communications & Entertainment Conference in California.
"As they started looking at the obvious candidates they realised that no company other than Activision had the skills they needed to be successful for their vision for that product.
"These are things that you would never have envisioned five years ago," continued Kotick. "Blizzard has 2500 people in customer services just for World of Warcraft. How you train them, how you manage them, how you organise them, how you use CRM tools to be really effective in satisfying the expectations of your audience is something that no other company had.
"When Bungie started to think about their future product plan and realised how deficient they and everyone else was in providing all the services necessary to create great competitive products for the future, they didn't really have any other alternative."
Some new info,from EGQuoteBungie had no option but to sign with Activision, the publisher's CEO has suggested.
"When they started the process of looking for a new partner they had a vision for a kind of product they wanted to create that needed certain skills and capabilities," Bobby Kotick told an audience at the Bank of America Merrill Lynch's Media, Communications & Entertainment Conference in California.
"As they started looking at the obvious candidates they realised that no company other than Activision had the skills they needed to be successful for their vision for that product.
"These are things that you would never have envisioned five years ago," continued Kotick. "Blizzard has 2500 people in customer services just for World of Warcraft. How you train them, how you manage them, how you organise them, how you use CRM tools to be really effective in satisfying the expectations of your audience is something that no other company had.
"When Bungie started to think about their future product plan and realised how deficient they and everyone else was in providing all the services necessary to create great competitive products for the future, they didn't really have any other alternative."
hmmm
...and then Kotick cackled gleefully, and screamed in a shrill squeal, "NO ALTERNATIVE AT ALL!"
...and then Kotick cackled gleefully, and screamed in a shrill squeal, "NO ALTERNATIVE AT ALL!"
:lol
Like a lot ofrepublicanbusinessmen Kotick finds it nearly impossible to not sound like a dick at every opportunity.
:lol
Be real now.