THE BORE

General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 04:29:43 PM

Title: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 04:29:43 PM
NOAA is tracking it like a hurricane! :lol

(http://i43.tinypic.com/f10eg7.jpg)

More in pictures:

(http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4bdae57d7f8b9a133f4a0b00-590-450/.jpg)

(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/04/29/NASA_close-up_April_25_540x360.jpg)

(http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/04/29/NOAA_-_Overflight_image_Apr_26_540x405.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/30/article-0-095FF6A1000005DC-838_634x451.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Oblivion on April 30, 2010, 04:34:19 PM
NOAA is tracking it like a hurricane! :lol

This IS Obama's Katrina afterall. :smug
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 04:37:36 PM
Except, under US law, Obama's not really responsible for cleaning up this mess - BP is!

Also, where is your autonomous state God now, Bobby Jindal? :smug
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Brehvolution on April 30, 2010, 04:44:39 PM
This is truly awful.  :(
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Eric P on April 30, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
guess gas is gonna be $6 a gallon this summer
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: ManaByte on April 30, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
Whats with all these disasters lately?

Is it because of the planets aligning side by side for the first time in history?

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A.K.A December 21st 2012 O.O
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WTF are you talking about. The planets align like that every fucking December.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 04:48:51 PM
Yeah, this has pretty much become an epic disaster. It has the potential to make the Exxon Valdez look like a footnote in the chapter of man-made environmental blunders.

It's also becoming apparent that BP debated initial estimates of how much oil was leaking, if not outright lied about it altogether. At least the military is on this disaster now, some have recommended requesting engineers from NASA to figure out a way to seal the blowout preventer.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 04:54:26 PM
Picture of some badass dudes saving a bird covered in oil:

(http://media.wwltv.com/images/0430+bird+oil+spill2.jpg)

... That bird is normally white.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 04:57:50 PM
Maybe not! BP is moving forward with a plan to burn the oil slick, but with it touching shore and the fact that the oil well is pouring 210,000 gallons of oil into the ocean per day, I hope you brought your inhaler. :-\
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Mupepe on April 30, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
Holy fucking shit.

I hadn't really been paying attention to news since they originally said nothing was going to leak.  They made a huge deal here because my company had 8 people on board that thankfully made it off alive.  But holy shit, this is fucking sad.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 05:07:55 PM
How long until we see the first political ads come out with Palin chanting "Drill baby, drill!" over pictures of dead wildlife drowning in oil.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Himu on April 30, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
Oh my god, now Galveston beach is going to go from chocolate gray to Mandingo black.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 05:14:09 PM
The Gulf of Mexico is going to look like Mordor.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Himu on April 30, 2010, 05:24:59 PM
Ugh.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 30, 2010, 05:28:44 PM
holy fucking shit
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Kestastrophe on April 30, 2010, 05:32:28 PM
I think it was yesterday that they revised their estimate of the spill at 5000 barrels per day from their previous estimate of 1000. Its amazing to me that they don't have a contingency plan in place to stop further leaking.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: OptimoPeach on April 30, 2010, 05:33:53 PM
It gets better

Quote
From the Press-Register:

"Two additional release points were found today. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."

In scientific circles, an order of magnitude means something is 10 times larger. In this case, an order of magnitude higher would mean the volume of oil coming from the well could be 10 times higher than the 5,000 barrels a day coming out now. That would mean 50,000 barrels a day, or 2.1 million gallons a day.
http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/deepwater_horizon_secret_memo.html

:rofl
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Himu on April 30, 2010, 05:36:38 PM
................
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Akala on April 30, 2010, 05:37:39 PM
My company also had people out there. Bad news.

Not to mention people two hours away can smell oil.

Very curious to see where the final finger is going to point.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 30, 2010, 05:43:47 PM
It gets better

Quote
From the Press-Register:

"Two additional release points were found today. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."

In scientific circles, an order of magnitude means something is 10 times larger. In this case, an order of magnitude higher would mean the volume of oil coming from the well could be 10 times higher than the 5,000 barrels a day coming out now. That would mean 50,000 barrels a day, or 2.1 million gallons a day.
http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/deepwater_horizon_secret_memo.html

:rofl


To give that some perspective, the Exxon Valdez spilled 250,000 barrels. So, if things get worse, and they most likely will, we could see something far worse than that ever was. Plus, the Exxon Valdez spilled its oil all the way up in Alaska.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r
Post by: Don Flamenco on April 30, 2010, 05:44:22 PM
Very curious to see where the final finger is going to point.

It was this guy:

(http://imgur.com/EPGy7.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: Akala on April 30, 2010, 05:55:58 PM
this is the worst possible time for something like this to happen. they were about to open up the gulf to more drilling and this happens. come on!

seriously, an astronomical amount of shit has to go wrong for something like this to happen.

something like this to happen.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 06:22:21 PM
Why is the governement getting involved?  Personally I'd rather we wait for a free market solution to this problem.

BP is supposed to be footing the bill for this operation and taking the initiative, but it's becoming apparent that they have no idea what they're doing - and now the responsibility has been put on the federal government to save the Gulf of Mexico.

Situation looks bleak, we could be looking at the biggest environmental disaster in US history and something that will take decade to recover from.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is starting to hit; Captain Planet where r u?
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 06:27:16 PM
WHAT THE FUCK?!? (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/30/u-s-coast-guard-responding-to-overturned-oil-rig/) :lol

U.S. Coast Guard responding to overturned oil rig

The U.S. Coast Guard said Friday it was responding to an overturned oil rig in an inland canal near Morgan City, Louisiana.

The rig is not leaking fuel at this time, the Coast Guard said, but 500 feet of containment boom has been deployed around the rig as a precaution.

The mobile inland drilling unit overturned in the Charenton navigational canal, the Coast Guard said.

Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 30, 2010, 06:30:30 PM
This summer, Mother Nature fights back.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 06:31:24 PM
To be fair, the ocean had a good run.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2010, 06:32:38 PM
So I heard this is Obama's Katrina

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Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on April 30, 2010, 06:33:29 PM
New Republican talking point:

"Bush might have destroyed New Orleans, but Obama destroyed the ocean."
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Himu on April 30, 2010, 06:38:33 PM
WE ARE FUCKED
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 30, 2010, 06:38:40 PM
Obama doesn't care about black birds
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Himu on April 30, 2010, 06:41:19 PM
No, Obama doesn't care about white birds. That bird was originally white!
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Diunx on April 30, 2010, 06:46:34 PM
I think its time to build a big shell.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: brawndolicious on April 30, 2010, 07:14:09 PM
It's also probably really bad for the ocean wildlife when you create a big plume of smoke, blocking out the sun and everything.

Did they say how long it's going to burn?
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 30, 2010, 10:12:29 PM
Just caught tonight's news, I was aware of this but had no idea of the scope of this. Jesus Christ, I felt sick watching it.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 30, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/gulf_mexico_oil_spill_worst_case.html)

Quote from:
The worst-case scenario for the broken and leaking well gushing oil into the Gulf of Mexico would be the loss of the wellhead currently restricting the flow to 5,000 barrels --  or 210,000 gallons per day.

If the wellhead is lost, oil could leave the well at a much greater rate, perhaps up to 150,000 barrels -- or more than 6 million gallons per day -- based on government data showing daily production at another deepwater Gulf well.

By comparison, the Exxon Valdez spill was 11 million gallons total. The Gulf spill could end up dumping the equivalent of 4 Exxon Valdez spills per week.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Himu on April 30, 2010, 10:28:34 PM
Oh my god, this is surreal.  :o
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Great Rumbler on April 30, 2010, 10:29:03 PM
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/gulf_mexico_oil_spill_worst_case.html)

Quote from:
The worst-case scenario for the broken and leaking well gushing oil into the Gulf of Mexico would be the loss of the wellhead currently restricting the flow to 5,000 barrels --  or 210,000 gallons per day.

If the wellhead is lost, oil could leave the well at a much greater rate, perhaps up to 150,000 barrels -- or more than 6 million gallons per day -- based on government data showing daily production at another deepwater Gulf well.

By comparison, the Exxon Valdez spill was 11 million gallons total. The Gulf spill could end up dumping the equivalent of 4 Exxon Valdez spills per week.

:-\
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Brehvolution on April 30, 2010, 10:38:31 PM
That is a HUGE food source that will probably never make a comeback.  :(

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2ciinid.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Donono on April 30, 2010, 11:42:09 PM
Gawd damn that's disgusting.



Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Dickie Dee on April 30, 2010, 11:51:58 PM
I actually worked a bit as an engineer for Exxon drilling the offshore rigs as an intern :(

Though we were only going for Natural Gas
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 01, 2010, 12:52:12 AM
At least BP will go bankrupt.  Small consolation, but at least we have that.

Yeah, Exxon seems to be doing ok after the Valdez.  In fact, I don't think they've paid all of the court ordered settlement yet either.  Pays to be richer than God.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2010, 12:59:31 AM
                                          Everything is going to be alright.
                                                 /
(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k33/GreatRumbler/IraqiInformationMinister.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 01, 2010, 01:07:26 AM
Quote from: http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/deepwater_horizon_secret_memo.html
Leaked report: Government fears Deepwater Horizon well could become unchecked gusher
By Ben Raines
April 30, 2010, 2:18PM

'The following is not public' document states
This image provided by the U.S. Coast Guard Saturday April 24, 2010, shows oil leaking from the drill pipe of the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig after it sank. A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could be on the verge of becoming an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf. A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf.

"The following is not public," reads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Response document dated April 28. "Two additional release points were found today in the tangled riser. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."

Asked Friday to comment on the document, NOAA spokesman Scott Smullen said that the additional leaks described were reported to the public late Wednesday night. Regarding the possibility of the spill becoming an order of magnitude larger, Smullen said, "I'm letting the document you have speak for itself."
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Beezy on May 01, 2010, 01:22:07 AM
This is so fucked up. How do you even begin to clean up something like this? How far can it spread? Is it even possible to stop more from leaking?

Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 01, 2010, 01:55:59 AM
To be fair, the ocean had a good run.

 :lol
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 01, 2010, 01:59:28 AM
How do you even begin to clean up something like this? How far can it spread? Is it even possible to stop more from leaking?

I don't think we know the answer to the first two, but the answer to your last question looks like no.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Diunx on May 01, 2010, 02:38:39 AM
Man so much oil being wasted :'( I want it all in my car!!!
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Beezy on May 01, 2010, 02:54:14 AM
How do you even begin to clean up something like this? How far can it spread? Is it even possible to stop more from leaking?

I don't think we know the answer to the first two, but the answer to your last question looks like no.

 :fbm
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Donono on May 01, 2010, 04:25:18 AM
Well wow.  That's just fan-fucking-tastic.

It's like Chernobyl/Three Mile--only for the oil rig industry.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: brawndolicious on May 01, 2010, 05:47:50 AM
Three Mile wasn't a big deal, other than the bad publicity it created of course.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 01, 2010, 08:34:29 AM
MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER - British Petroleum downplayed the possibility of a catastrophic accident at an offshore rig that exploded, causing the worst U.S. spill in decades along the Gulf coast and endangering shoreline habitat, documents suggest.

In the 52-page exploration plan and environmental impact analysis, BP repeatedly suggested it was unlikely, or virtually impossible, for an accident to occur that would lead to a giant crude oil spill and serious damage to beaches, fish, mammals and fisheries.

...

BP's plan filed with the federal Minerals Management Service for the Deepwater Horizon well, dated February 2009, says repeatedly that it was "unlikely that an accidental surface or subsurface oil spill would occur from the proposed activities."

And while the company conceded that a spill would "cause impacts" to beaches, wildlife refuges and wilderness areas, it argued that "due to the distance to shore (48 miles) and the response capabilities that would be implemented, no significant adverse impacts are expected."

NICE JOB, BP. :lol
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2010, 11:06:28 AM
I'd say BP's image is pretty much shot.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Himu on May 01, 2010, 11:09:39 AM
I'd say BP's image is pretty much shot.

You think?  :-\
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2010, 11:13:25 AM
I'd say BP's image is pretty much shot.

You think?  :-\

I was going to say that BP is pretty much dead, but then I realized that they're worth $250 billion so I edited my post.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Akala on May 01, 2010, 11:39:13 AM
Yeah, they're not dead. The only thing dead are all the shrimp.  :'(
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Himu on May 01, 2010, 11:40:37 AM
Yeah, they're not dead. The only thing dead are all the shrimp.  :'(

NO NO NO NO
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2010, 12:33:16 PM
Yeah, they're not dead. The only thing dead are all the shrimp.  :'(

And the fish. And the birds. And the Gulf Coast tourism industry.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 01, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
BP will survive.

I'd like to hope that this is one (of many) wake up calls that we need to move on from fossil fuels but the general consensus is that people are only concerned about the prices at the pump.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Bocsius on May 01, 2010, 12:49:32 PM
Earthquakes, volanic eruptions, economic malaise, environmental disasters, tsunamis, floods, famines, wars.

Awesome start to a millennium.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2010, 12:51:39 PM
Earthquakes, volanic eruptions, economic malaise, environmental disasters, tsunamis, floods, famines, wars.

Awesome start to a millennium.

Don't forget international terrorism!
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2010, 01:17:43 PM
At least BP will go bankrupt.  Small consolation, but at least we have that.

Yeah, Exxon seems to be doing ok after the Valdez.  In fact, I don't think they've paid all of the court ordered settlement yet either.  Pays to be richer than God.
Plus it seems that Obama wants to start billing them imediately for the governments involvement.

Their net income was $16 billion last year, that should about cover it, I think.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 02, 2010, 08:01:15 AM
Quote from: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7114015.ece
Oil spill disaster ‘out of control’

Tony Allen-Mills and Craig Guillot in New Orleans

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill may be growing five times faster than previously estimated and is in danger of accelerating out of control, it was claimed yesterday.

Experts said satellite data indicated the oil was gushing from BP’s sunken Deepwater Horizon rig at 25,000 barrels a day. Previous estimates had put the leak at 5,000 barrels a day.

Professor Ian MacDonald, an ocean specialist at Florida State University, said the new estimate suggested the leak had already spread 9m gallons of heavy crude oil across the Gulf. This compares with 11m that leaked from the Exxon Valdez tanker when it hit a reef off Alaska in 1989.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said deteriorating conditions on the sea bed may result in an even greater flow of 50,000 barrels a day, sufficient to produce one of America’s worst ecological disasters.

Experts and officials said their greatest fear was that a disintegration of pipes close to the rig could produce an “unchecked gusher” that would ravage America’s southern coastline.

<...>

:fbm
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Ichirou on May 02, 2010, 08:36:28 AM
Obama is the Jimmy Carter of the 21st century.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 02, 2010, 08:47:30 AM
The good news is, I don't think we'll ever hear about red states complaining that we don't drill enough anymore.

Which was the complaint even with Obama's new expansion. The GOP wanted more expansion. :lol
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 02, 2010, 10:15:38 AM
Did you guys see the daily show thursday? It featured a clip of Obama saying hey guys oil rigs are actually very safe, drill baby drill bla bla. And now look what happened.

This isn't change I can believe in. >:(

He'll catch some shit for this for a couple weeks at most.

It can be seen more as anti GOP fodder because the GOP is the party of "drill baby drill."
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Human Snorenado on May 02, 2010, 10:41:45 AM
Banks: TOO BIG TO FAIL
Big Oil: TOO BIG TO FAIL
Big Pharma: TOO BIG TO FAIL

 :american

Poland:  too small and insignificant to give free missile defense systems
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 02, 2010, 10:58:22 AM
I'd say BP's image is pretty much shot.

I still fill my Toyota up with it all the time
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 02, 2010, 11:32:17 AM
BP is supposed to be one of the better players in the industry in terms of safety (been in contact with a few friends). They didn't even own the rig that was drilling the well and the main fault is that the main failsafe, BOP, that was supposed to shut the well in event of trouble didn't. It also didn't shut manually when the rig operators tried as they were evacuating after the explosion. It also didn't activate when the remote vehicles tried to engage the valves directly on it.

Of course the guys that made the BOP are the leaders in the industry and even invented the first ones way back when. It might have been human error, but the story isn't that simple.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: huckleberry on May 02, 2010, 11:51:02 AM
Quote

Poland:  too small and insignificant to give free missile defense systems

 
:rofl
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 02, 2010, 01:39:59 PM
if anybody remembers that Alaska pipeline leak from a few years back (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14219844/), the one that spilled a shitload of oil and shut down the pipeline, that was BP's bad.

They hadn't run any maintenance at all on their section of the pipeline in well over a decade.  Can't do anything that will slow down that flow, that is, until its too late.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: huckleberry on May 02, 2010, 02:13:41 PM
Are the news media just waiting for millions of oil covered birds to wash ashore before this gets more attention?  Fucking Exxon Valdez was on 24/7 when it happened and this is going to put it to shame.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Bocsius on May 02, 2010, 02:18:09 PM
Poland:  too small and insignificant to give free missile defense systems

Poland: Just pile everyone from the government into a single rickety old plane and have them land in the fog.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: CajoleJuice on May 02, 2010, 02:21:14 PM
Poland:  too small and insignificant to give free missile defense systems

Poland: Just pile everyone from the government into a single rickety old plane and have them land in the fog.
(http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/gifs/averyjohnsonlookup.gif)
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Beezy on May 02, 2010, 02:45:20 PM
Are the news media just waiting for millions of oil covered birds to wash ashore before this gets more attention?  Fucking Exxon Valdez was on 24/7 when it happened and this is going to put it to shame.
Seems so. No one is talking about this and news stations are barely covering it. It's really fucking sad.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 02, 2010, 02:49:06 PM
(http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/gifs/averyjohnsonlookup.gif)

That guy looks like PeeDee.

He also looks a bit like the "im da best mayynne" guy on youtube.

Lovechild
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: OptimoPeach on May 02, 2010, 02:57:50 PM
I bet Eli Porter would be a better coach than Avery Johnson
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: huckleberry on May 02, 2010, 04:50:24 PM
Link stolen from someone on GAF.  Some awesome, terrible photos:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/oil_spill_approaches_louisiana.html (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/oil_spill_approaches_louisiana.html)
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: brawndolicious on May 02, 2010, 04:59:08 PM
Some caller on the radio yesterday seriously suggested that they try sealing it with a miniature nuclear device.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Beezy on May 02, 2010, 05:11:01 PM
Some caller on the radio yesterday seriously suggested that they try sealing it with a miniature nuclear device.
People are stupid.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 02, 2010, 09:21:52 PM
I hear it even smells like oil down there.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: naff on May 02, 2010, 09:30:47 PM
I'm surprised by how many times this has happened in the Gulf before. The largest previous spill in the Gulf being The Ixtoc I spill off the Gulf Of Mexico (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ixtoc_I). It took them nearly 9 months to cap that and it was spilling an average of 10 to 30 thousand barrels of oil a day into the Gulf throughout that 9 months according to Wikipedia.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 02, 2010, 09:38:58 PM
So how does this effect the DRILL BABY DRILL crowd. Especially in states like Florida :teehee
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 02, 2010, 09:48:21 PM
I think this essentially kills DRILL BABY DRILL until we forget about it.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Beezy on May 02, 2010, 10:38:27 PM
(http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/deepwater_04_30/d11_23181779.jpg)

(http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/deepwater_04_30/d31_23207901.jpg)

There aren't enough :fbm :fbm :fbm
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 02, 2010, 10:40:39 PM
Nice wall papers
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Himu on May 02, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
SOMEONE CALL MARIO, HE DID THIS SHIT

(http://www.cs2.org.vt.edu/beeks/spring08/Will/SuperMarioSunshine.jpg)

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Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Fresh Prince on May 02, 2010, 10:44:42 PM
So who's paying to clean this up?
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Himu on May 02, 2010, 10:45:53 PM
BP
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Beezy on May 02, 2010, 10:58:05 PM
It's really not possible to "clean" this up. At least not with what we have now. Just look at the pics.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Himu on May 02, 2010, 11:00:42 PM
:(
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Fresh Prince on May 02, 2010, 11:05:01 PM
Private enterprise will find a way.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: drew on May 02, 2010, 11:14:40 PM
maybe we should skim your gaping asshole across the surface, you fucking faggot
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 02, 2010, 11:21:24 PM
 :lol

Drew mad
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Beezy on May 02, 2010, 11:21:54 PM
holy shit :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 02, 2010, 11:44:55 PM
Tea Party right, non-believers annihilated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbyFeFhUTmI#t=2m40s


http://www.vancouverite.com/2010/05/02/bp-oil-spill-sparks-fishing-ban-in-gulf-of-mexico/

:drudge
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Diunx on May 03, 2010, 01:04:55 AM
Hopefully this will divert some tourism from Louisiana to DR :usacry
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Beezy on May 03, 2010, 01:24:45 AM
Dominican women :drool
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: ManaByte on May 04, 2010, 02:23:32 AM
Some caller on the radio yesterday seriously suggested that they try solving the stupid people question by using a giant nuclear device.

Callers to Coast to Coast AM aren't exactly normal. Ian basically told her that she was distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Robo on May 04, 2010, 10:59:52 AM
Saw these shots on BoingBoing of the Deepwater Horizon burning:

(http://i40.tinypic.com/34ht2zn.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/34673q0.jpg)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2yxghox.jpg)

(http://i39.tinypic.com/34ya43s.jpg)

Looks like something out of a sci-fi movie.
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 04, 2010, 11:31:47 AM
does it ever
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: ManaByte on May 04, 2010, 11:47:54 AM
The ironic thing is that the Surf report for most of the Florida panhandle says pretty nice conditions today with larger waves than we have here in SoCal right now :/
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: huckleberry on May 09, 2010, 07:26:53 PM

BP is maybe the most mickey mouse operation on the fucking planet.


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1988063,00.html?hpt=T1 (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1988063,00.html?hpt=T1)
Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 09, 2010, 07:46:56 PM
Wtf? :lol

Quote from: CNN
Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- If using a massive dome to cover the source of the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico doesn't work, crews are preparing for another option: clogging it.

Engineers are examining whether they can close a failed blowout preventer by stuffing it with trash, said Adm. Thad Allen, the commandant of the Coast Guard. The 48-foot-tall, 450-ton device sits atop the well at the heart of the Gulf oil spill and is designed to stop leaks, but it has not been working properly since the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20 and later sank.

"The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of debris -- shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."

:rofl
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: huckleberry on May 09, 2010, 07:53:10 PM
It is so fucked up at this point that all you can do is laugh.  :-\

Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ t
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2010, 07:54:46 PM
WE NEED A FUKKEN DOME MADE OUT OF TRASH. 
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 09, 2010, 07:59:07 PM
I'm waiting for this announcement from BP:

Quote from: BP
"Gentlemen, at this point in time, all of our efforts to contain the oil spill have failed. The dome, clogging it with trash, firing nuclear weapons at it, building a bigger dome to fit over the original dome. That is why we now believe the best course of action is to create a new oil spill, causing both oil slicks to converge and begin total protonic reversal. Godspeed and God bless America."
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 09, 2010, 08:04:44 PM
Quote from: CNN
Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- If using a massive dome to cover the source of the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico doesn't work, crews are preparing for another option: clogging it.

Engineers are examining whether they can close a failed blowout preventer by stuffing it with Wilco, said Adm. Thad Allen, the commandant of the Coast Guard. The 48-foot-tall, 450-ton device sits atop the well at the heart of the Gulf oil spill and is designed to stop leaks, but it has not been working properly since the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20 and later sank.

"The next tactic is going to be something they call a jew shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of Wilco -- legs, badonkadonk, and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."

Though Engineers are concerned that Wilco's mass might not be enough, given his elliptical workouts in the last few months.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ t
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 09, 2010, 08:30:03 PM
jew shot :lol
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on May 09, 2010, 08:34:23 PM
Oh the last line :rofl
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 10, 2010, 12:52:50 AM
holy shit :rofl
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 10, 2010, 01:14:07 AM
This is reminding me of this Post Apocalyptic short I read a couple months ago, where humans evolve into sand eating beings via technology  (due to fleshy food sources dieing off) and oceans of oil due to disregard for the environment. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Cormacaroni on May 10, 2010, 01:21:35 AM
Look on the bright side people, all that oil was going to end up destroying the environment ANYWAY. 

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Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 10, 2010, 01:28:53 AM
This is reminding me of this Post Apocalyptic short I read a couple months ago, where humans evolve into sand eating beings via technology  (due to fleshy food sources dieing off) and oceans of oil due to disregard for the environment. Can't wait.

Name and source?
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Crushed on May 10, 2010, 02:21:29 AM
My sister lives in New Orleans. She had just got back from being trapped in England for weeks, and now they can smell oil in the air outside.


There must have been a lot of gay recently, because God has been working overdrive to smite unrelated poor people.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Cravis on May 10, 2010, 08:40:53 AM
Where's Walter Peck when you REALLY need him?

"Hold it! I want these men arrested! Captain, these men are in criminal violation of the Environmental Protection Act! And this explosion is a direct result of it!"
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Bocsius on May 10, 2010, 08:58:37 AM
If oil is produced by the environment, how can it be bad for the environment?

:smug

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Title: Re: IT'S TIME TO OIL UP! Spillageddon is here; another oil rig overturns, no joke!
Post by: drew on May 10, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
That guy looks like PeeDee.

He also looks a bit like the "im da best mayynne" guy on youtube.

they all look alike to me
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 10, 2010, 09:46:27 AM
This is reminding me of this Post Apocalyptic short I read a couple months ago, where humans evolve into sand eating beings via technology  (due to fleshy food sources dieing off) and oceans of oil due to disregard for the environment. Can't wait.

Name and source?

The People of Sand and Slag by Paolo Bacigalupi (the short itself was in the "Stories of the Wasteland")
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 10, 2010, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: CNN
Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- If using a massive dome to cover the source of the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico doesn't work, crews are preparing for another option: clogging it.

Engineers are examining whether they can close a failed blowout preventer by stuffing it with Wilco, said Adm. Thad Allen, the commandant of the Coast Guard. The 48-foot-tall, 450-ton device sits atop the well at the heart of the Gulf oil spill and is designed to stop leaks, but it has not been working properly since the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20 and later sank.

"The next tactic is going to be something they call a jew shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of Wilco -- legs, badonkadonk, and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."

Though Engineers are concerned that Wilco's mass might not be enough, given his elliptical workouts in the last few months.


omfg :rofl
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: BlueTsunami on May 10, 2010, 11:25:19 AM
This whole situation sort of now reads like a backed up toilet scenario, furiously throwing back excrement and everyones freaking the fuck out. There ain't no time to think, and yet its still vomiting up a few weeks worth of dinner.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 10, 2010, 01:02:16 PM
They have to be trying something, but really it's a case of the only legimate solution taking 3-4 months so instead of sitting on the sidelines they're just throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks. All of BP's Houston staff have been pulled from their projects and are put onto this, whether this is a PR move or hope that *some new solution* can be created, I don't know.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Mupepe on May 10, 2010, 01:31:55 PM
It's no PR move.  The whole industry is pretty serious about getting this solved and they're all collaborating. 
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: huckleberry on May 14, 2010, 07:39:01 PM
(http://www.treehugger.com/deepwater-horizon-compared.jpg)
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 14, 2010, 09:04:32 PM
I don't really see it passing Kuwait, but it should easily pass all the others.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Beezy on May 14, 2010, 09:14:05 PM
It's gonna cause more damage than the others though.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on May 14, 2010, 09:43:14 PM
It's been 20 years since Kuwait and the weather has been getting more fucked up every year.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 15, 2010, 08:54:15 AM
The damage to Kuwait was minimal, all things considered. This will wreak havoc with the Gulf for years.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 15, 2010, 09:34:01 AM
Especially once the oil kills the grass in the marshlands and they disappear as the GOM claims them. There's gonna be permant loss of habitat.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: tehjaybo on May 15, 2010, 02:00:52 PM
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Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Dickie Dee on May 16, 2010, 08:44:07 AM
Quote from: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/us/16oil.html?hp
Giant Plumes of Oil Found Forming Under Gulf of Mexico
By JUSTIN GILLIS


Scientists are finding enormous oil plumes in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, including one as large as 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick in spots. The discovery is fresh evidence that the leak from the broken undersea well could be substantially worse than estimates that the government and BP have given.

“There’s a shocking amount of oil in the deep water, relative to what you see in the surface water,” said Samantha Joye, a researcher at the University of Georgia who is involved in one of the first scientific missions to gather details about what is happening in the gulf. “There’s a tremendous amount of oil in multiple layers, three or four or five layers deep in the water column.”

The plumes are depleting the oxygen dissolved in the gulf, worrying scientists, who fear that the oxygen level could eventually fall so low as to kill off much of the sea life near the plumes.

Dr. Joye said the oxygen had already dropped 30 percent near some of the plumes in the month that the broken oil well had been flowing. “If you keep those kinds of rates up, you could draw the oxygen down to very low levels that are dangerous to animals in a couple of months,” she said Saturday. “That is alarming.”


The plumes were discovered by scientists from several universities working aboard the research vessel Pelican, which sailed from Cocodrie, La., on May 3 and has gathered extensive samples and information about the disaster in the gulf.

Scientists studying video of the gushing oil well have tentatively calculated that it could be flowing at a rate of 25,000 to 80,000 barrels of oil a day. The latter figure would be 3.4 million gallons a day. But the government, working from satellite images of the ocean surface, has calculated a flow rate of only 5,000 barrels a day.

BP has resisted entreaties from scientists that they be allowed to use sophisticated instruments at the ocean floor that would give a far more accurate picture of how much oil is really gushing from the well.

“The answer is no to that,” a BP spokesman, Tom Mueller, said on Saturday. “We’re not going to take any extra efforts now to calculate flow there at this point. It’s not relevant to the response effort, and it might even detract from the response effort.”


The undersea plumes may go a long way toward explaining the discrepancy between the flow estimates, suggesting that much of the oil emerging from the well could be lingering far below the sea surface.

The scientists on the Pelican mission, which is backed by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the federal agency that monitors the health of the oceans, are not certain why that would be. They say they suspect the heavy use of chemical dispersants, which BP has injected into the stream of oil emerging from the well, may have broken the oil up into droplets too small to rise rapidly.

BP said Saturday at a briefing in Robert, La., that it had resumed undersea application of dispersants, after winning Environmental Protection Agency approval the day before.

“It appears that the application of the subsea dispersant is actually working,” Doug Suttles, BP’s chief operating officer for exploration and production, said Saturday. “The oil in the immediate vicinity of the well and the ships and rigs working in the area is diminished from previous observations.”

Many scientists had hoped the dispersants would cause oil droplets to spread so widely that they would be less of a problem in any one place. If it turns out that is not happening, the strategy could come under greater scrutiny. Dispersants have never been used in an oil leak of this size a mile under the ocean, and their effects at such depth are largely unknown.

Much about the situation below the water is unclear, and the scientists stressed that their results were preliminary. After the April 20 explosion of the Deepwater Horizon, they altered a previously scheduled research mission to focus on the effects of the leak.

Interviewed on Saturday by satellite phone, one researcher aboard the Pelican, Vernon Asper of the University of Southern Mississippi, said the shallowest oil plume the group had detected was at about 2,300 feet, while the deepest was near the seafloor at about 4,200 feet.

“We’re trying to map them, but it’s a tedious process,” Dr. Asper said. “Right now it looks like the oil is moving southwest, not all that rapidly.”

He said they had taken water samples from areas that oil had not yet reached, and would compare those with later samples to judge the impact on the chemistry and biology of the ocean.

While they have detected the plumes and their effects with several types of instruments, the researchers are still not sure about their density, nor do they have a very good fix on the dimensions.

Given their size, the plumes cannot possibly be made of pure oil, but more likely consist of fine droplets of oil suspended in a far greater quantity of water, Dr. Joye said. She added that in places, at least, the plumes might be the consistency of a thin salad dressing.

Dr. Joye is serving as a coordinator of the mission from her laboratory in Athens, Ga. Researchers from the University of Mississippi and the University of Southern Mississippi are aboard the boat taking samples and running instruments.

Dr. Joye said the findings about declining oxygen levels were especially worrisome, since oxygen is so slow to move from the surface of the ocean to the bottom. She suspects that oil-eating bacteria are consuming the oxygen at a feverish clip as they work to break down the plumes.

While the oxygen depletion so far is not enough to kill off sea life, the possibility looms that oxygen levels could fall so low as to create large dead zones, especially at the seafloor. “That’s the big worry,” said Ray Highsmith, head of the Mississippi center that sponsored the mission, known as the National Institute for Undersea Science and Technology.


The Pelican mission is due to end Sunday, but the scientists are seeking federal support to resume it soon.

“This is a new type of event, and it’s critically important that we really understand it, because of the incredible number of oil platforms not only in the Gulf of Mexico but all over the world now,” Dr. Highsmith said. “We need to know what these events are like, and what their outcomes can be, and what can be done to deal with the next one.”

:fbm

Also, holy shit at that BP quote, their PR was so good at the start, now they coming off as such swarmy assholes
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 16, 2010, 01:09:24 PM
 :fbm :-\ :fbm
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on May 16, 2010, 02:31:39 PM
The damage to Kuwait was minimal, all things considered. This will wreak havoc with the Gulf for years.
I wasn't referring to the damage for Kuwait, I was referring to the hundreds of oil wells lit on fire and raged for months putting tens maybe hundreds of barrels of oil into the air.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on May 24, 2010, 02:31:08 PM
http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/05/oil-spill-bp-grand-isle-beach
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 24, 2010, 02:33:46 PM
Drill baby, drill
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: ManaByte on May 24, 2010, 02:34:37 PM
North Korea torpedoed up the Deepwater Horizon.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 24, 2010, 02:39:55 PM
http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/05/oil-spill-bp-grand-isle-beach

S M H
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 24, 2010, 04:40:59 PM
That article is like a bad novel, where a big, faceless conglomerate is in charge of a small town.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: huckleberry on May 24, 2010, 04:51:55 PM
big, faceless conglomerate is in charge of a small town.

 :usacry
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ t
Post by: T-Short on May 24, 2010, 05:28:37 PM
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/05/oil_reaches_louisiana_shores.html)
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Yeti on May 24, 2010, 05:36:32 PM
This thing hasn't stopped leaking yet either, right?  :(
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ t
Post by: T-Short on May 24, 2010, 05:38:32 PM
This thing hasn't stopped leaking yet either, right?  :(

nope. still going strong
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 24, 2010, 05:46:32 PM
why hasn't obama fixed this omg
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on May 24, 2010, 05:53:07 PM
Because, as the Democrats have learned, his pockets are lined with corporate dollars too - just like the rest of 'em.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: ManaByte on May 24, 2010, 06:20:31 PM
Because, as the Democrats have learned, his pockets are lined with corporate dollars too - just like the rest of 'em.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/05/bp.lobbying/index.html
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on May 24, 2010, 07:25:19 PM
Part of me thinks that BP is dragging this out SO the govt. jumps in and takes over since socializing losses has been so en vogue these days. :tinfoilhat

Do I think the govt. should be doing more? Yes

What do I think they should be doing and aren't? I haven't a clue.

They should retrofit a big robotic arm on a Navy sub and use it to shove something in the tube. That is my best idea.  :-\
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on May 24, 2010, 07:27:15 PM
Because, as the Democrats have learned, his pockets are lined with corporate dollars too - just like the rest of 'em.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/05/bp.lobbying/index.html

Big Oil rules the world. If it isn't more obvious now then I don't know what to say. If you are trying to claim that Obama is in the pocket of BP, this article isn't proving your claim.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Diunx on May 24, 2010, 08:04:36 PM
Hurricane season is coming, this is gonna be fun for Louisiana.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Phoenix Dark on May 24, 2010, 08:13:21 PM
Because, as the Democrats have learned, his pockets are lined with corporate dollars too - just like the rest of 'em.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/05/bp.lobbying/index.html
wow a whopping $71,000

Quote
The oil and gas industry donated $2.4 million to Palin's running mate, Republican John McCain, in the 2008 election cycle, and nearly $900,000 to Obama, according to the Times, which cites data from the Center for Responsive Politics' opensecrets.org website.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/05/palin-criticizes-obama-on-gulf-oil-cleanup/1

:teehee

Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 01:26:48 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2010/05/21/GA2010052104134.html?hpid=artslot

:(
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 04, 2010, 01:29:38 AM
This just gets more and more depressing with each passing day.  :-\
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 04, 2010, 01:33:29 AM
Maybe it will encourage research into alternative energy though!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:lol
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Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2010, 01:39:48 AM
Obama :piss2
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 01:41:30 AM
Pretty much, fuck Obama.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: brawndolicious on June 04, 2010, 01:46:23 AM
I haven't been following this too closely.  What did he screw up?
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 01:49:39 AM
The federal guv is sitting on their ass, twiddling their thumbs and is not taking responsibility for the lives of its citizens, environment and wildlife.

GW handled Katrina better.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 04, 2010, 01:52:07 AM
Government isn't your daddy. How many times do they have to let you down before you realize what a pile of corrupt/inept shit they are?



Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 04, 2010, 01:54:37 AM
ToxicAdam is correct. You can't trust the government or the public sector to do anything right.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 01:54:56 AM
I certainly didn't realize it yesterday; doesn't stop the whole situation from being disappointing, though.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 04, 2010, 01:56:17 AM
Government points to business. Business points to government. Shit doesn't get done.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2010, 02:08:40 AM
There isn't much the government could have done to "fix" this, but I'm shocked Obama sat on his hands until people started bitching. If he had been on the scene faster and started getting ready for the recovery/clean up phase faster, who knows. There would still be a spill, but this wouldn't look like as much of a clusterfuck from the administration's end.

Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 02:19:11 AM
Exactly. It's difficult to fix, but it'd really take some weight off my shoulders if they acted like they gave a shit.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 04, 2010, 02:22:28 AM
In short act as if they care.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: brawndolicious on June 04, 2010, 02:23:35 AM
The federal guv is sitting on their ass, twiddling their thumbs and is not taking responsibility for the lives of its citizens, environment and wildlife.

GW handled Katrina better.
What specific solutions should he have used?  Wasn't the oil spill originally supposed to be under the control of the company responsible, unless they couldn't handle it, and didn't BP give estimates that were ten times too low?

I mean, what exactly is a law professor supposed to look for weeks before it hits the shore wrt taking emergency action?  What is he allowed to do?

I don't see the comparison to Katrina.  This is a slow-motion disaster (obviously) and nobody's actual life is as stake.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 04, 2010, 02:25:23 AM
But there are birds. Birds dying. Birds dying slowly. Birds dying slowly to their death. Fish as well.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 04, 2010, 02:26:30 AM
I think America loves birds more than black people.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 02:27:42 AM
If anything it shows how distinguished mentally-challenged spill recovery is. The lack of co-operation between both groups has been astounding.

You don't see the comparison to Katrina? This will be a detrimental impact on careers and lives in the Gulf and economy and it took a bunch of bad press and bitching to Obama to make a statement.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 04, 2010, 02:29:50 AM
It's a disaster and Katrina was a disaster. That's about the only similarity worth mentioning imo. Everything else is pretty different, starting with the tons of people who died.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 04, 2010, 02:31:08 AM
I think America loves dying black birds more than dying black people.
;)
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Beezy on June 04, 2010, 02:34:09 AM
Exactly. It's difficult to fix, but it'd really take some weight off my shoulders if they acted like they gave a shit.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21508725&postcount=1953

read that
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: brawndolicious on June 04, 2010, 02:39:29 AM
It's a disaster and Katrina was a disaster. That's about the only similarity worth mentioning imo. Everything else is pretty different, starting with the tons of people who died.
This.  You see people dying, starving, "looting/scavenging" and you immediately use any and all resources and worry about the correct procedures later.  Plus a lot of the actual city got destroyed which is just unprecedented.

This seems more like the law never anticipated such a disaster and that BP's underhandedness\/incompetence delayed the response.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Himu on June 04, 2010, 02:39:30 AM
THANK YOU, BEEZY.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Crushed on June 04, 2010, 07:01:00 PM
death to humanity
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 04, 2010, 08:21:48 PM
Ive missed this story since it began. There's a giant catastrophic oil spill. Im really out of the loop.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on June 04, 2010, 08:34:06 PM
I can't believe the govt. has the fix just sitting in a nearby warehouse and isn't deploying it.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Diunx on June 04, 2010, 11:16:48 PM
Wait, so Cameron didn't fix this? I don't think there is anyone else able to stop this, Louisiana had a good run.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 05, 2010, 12:28:45 AM
I think he was on radio or something bitchin' how BP wouldn't listen to him  :lol
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 05, 2010, 12:31:00 AM
"The answer is UNOBTAINIUM."

"Uh, Mr. Cameron, how is that going to hel-"

"Hello, did you not see AVATAR?"

"Yes, it was a very entertain-"

"Just get some unobtainum! Problem solved!"

"But that doesn't make any sen-"

"It makes mountains float! It can clog some silly hole!"

".... Is it too late to call Kevin Costner back?"
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 05, 2010, 12:36:29 AM
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/03/james-cameron-bp-morons-dont-want-my-help-with-oil-spill/

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"I know really, really, really smart people that work typically at depths much greater than what that well is at," Cameron said. But according to the Oscar-winning director, BP officials are not among them.
:lol
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Diunx on June 05, 2010, 12:44:05 AM
I still can't believe they are actually calling Hollywood people in on this, I thought it was an internet joke or something :rofl
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 05, 2010, 01:18:22 AM
really, really, really smart people

also brainstorm  :yuck
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Ichirou on June 05, 2010, 02:06:43 AM
I still can't believe they are actually calling Hollywood people in on this, I thought it was an internet joke or something :rofl

To be fair, calling in Kevin Costner wasn't such a bad idea since his brother built that sweet machine. I don't really get calling Cameron, unless he too had connections to people with sweet machines (and the only way to contact said people is to go through Cameron).

He's done tons of underwater exploration stuff, though.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Dickie Dee on June 05, 2010, 02:11:55 AM
I still can't believe they are actually calling Hollywood people in on this, I thought it was an internet joke or something :rofl

To be fair, calling in Kevin Costner wasn't such a bad idea since his brother built that sweet machine. I don't really get calling Cameron, unless he too had connections to people with sweet machines (and the only way to contact said people is to go through Cameron).

It might sound like a joke, but Cameron (and his team that are probably still on his retainer, idk) is fairly expert on underwater robotics. That said, MOAR ROBOTZ isn't going to magically plug this hole in the ocean floor.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 05, 2010, 11:41:57 AM
So its like that episode of South Park then?
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 05, 2010, 12:15:27 PM
The media downplayed Obama's role in the solution because it gives ample material for their pundits to argue either side of his actions as well as riling up enough people to keep watching Obama's bumbling response to the disaster.

Which is why more and more people in the media are making the connections to Carter.  Controversy regarding Obama is too good of a business not to exploit.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2010, 11:28:53 AM
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HOUSTON (Reuters) – BP Plc took risky shortcuts in drilling its Macondo well that "increased the danger of a catastrophic well failure," two U.S. lawmakers probing the well's blow-out and the worst U.S. oil spill said on Monday.

"It appears that BP repeatedly chose risky procedures in order to reduce costs and save time and made minimal efforts to contain the added risk," said Representatives Henry Waxman and Bart Stupak, the top Democrats on the House of Representatives Energy and Commerce Committee.

BP opted for a well design with few barriers to impede a "kick" of methane gas that surged up the drilling pipe and set off a catastrophic series of explosions in the Gulf of Mexico on April 20, and failed to ensure that the drill pipe was adequately sealed with cement to prevent an influx of flammable gas, the lawmakers said.

The lawmakers disclosed the details in a letter to BP Chief Executive Tony Hayward, who is slated to testify before the committee on Thursday. BP declined to comment on the letter.
"It would be inappropriate to comment on these matters in advance," BP spokesman Toby Odone said in a written comment. "No doubt they will raise these matters during the hearing."

The letter presents a potentially damning account of key decisions made by BP drilling officials in the days before the catastrophic explosion of the Deepwater Horizon rig that killed 11 workers and eclipsed the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster as the worst U.S. oil spill.

The letter, a synthesis of facts gathered by the Energy and Commerce Committee's investigations panel, portrays BP engineers as under the gun and in a hurry to wrap up drilling operations, which were running more than 40 days late.

To drill the well, BP leased the Deepwater Horizon rig from Swiss-based Transocean at a rate of about $500,000 a day, and the drilling delays meant an extra $21 million in leasing fees, lawmakers said.

In some cases, BP ignored warnings from contractors like Halliburton Co and their own employees and chose faster and cheaper drilling options, they said.

On April 15, five days before the explosion, BP drilling engineer Brian Morel wrote in an email to a BP colleague: "This has been (a) nightmare well which has everyone all over the place."

On April 16, BP opted for a minimal number of "centralizers" in the well that were meant to ensure that the casing ran straight to aid the cement in setting properly.

Halliburton suggested that BP use 21 centralizers to reduce the potential for gas to flow into the well casing, but BP decided to use only six even though Halliburton warned of a "SEVERE gas flow problem."

When informed that extra centralizers were available in Houston and could be flown to the rig the same morning, BP well team leader John Guide responded, "It will take 10 (hours) to install them .... I (am) very concerned about using them."

BP drilling engineer Brett Cocales emailed Morel, "But, who cares, it's done, end of story, will probably be fine and we'll get a good cement job."

"So Guide is right on the risk/reward equation."

Lawmakers said BP had flown a team of engineers from Schlumberger Ltd to the rig to perform a cement bond log to ensure that the cementing job was adequate, but decided not to use their services.

BP flew a crew from Schlumberger to the rig on April 18, but told them on the morning of April 20 that their services were not required, lawmakers said. The decision "may have been driven by concerns about expense and time," the lawmakers said.

The Schlumberger crew flew off the rig at 11:15 a.m. on April 20.

At 9:53 p.m. that evening, the rig exploded
, and sank a mile beneath the Gulf of Mexico two days later.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100614/ts_nm/us_oil_spill_probe (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100614/ts_nm/us_oil_spill_probe)

Guiding hand of free-market capitalism! :american
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 15, 2010, 11:38:31 AM
:bow corporate efficiency :bow2
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Mupepe on June 15, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
BP still isn't listening to Halliburton btw.  :-\
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: huckleberry on June 17, 2010, 11:00:58 AM
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3.aspx (http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN3.aspx)

Watching Congressional testimony now.  Funny thing is these fucks cutting BP down take no culpability of their own.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 17, 2010, 11:36:21 AM
republicans lol

"BP should pay for the spill wtf Obama! Why are you making BP pay for the spill wtf Obama!"

Do they honestly feel like making BP pay for the liability/spill clean up is ok, but making them pay the victims of their negligence is like, not ok?
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on July 15, 2010, 04:03:10 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/15/gulf-oil-spill-stopped-bp_n_647988.html

 :o
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Mupepe on July 15, 2010, 04:04:29 PM
just saw that.  hopefully it will last.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 15, 2010, 04:19:52 PM
Some nutjob was just on Dylan Ratigan saying that the pipe is a lie and there is a big hole gushing oil six miles away from the pipe; that amount of oil could not have come up from that pipe.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on July 15, 2010, 04:48:58 PM
I also heard that the pressure was too low insinuating that there was a leak elsewhere.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Akala on July 15, 2010, 07:21:09 PM
BP still isn't listening to Halliburton btw.  :-\

Moreso than Baker! :lol

yay well plug. now lift the moratorium, assholes. come onnnnnn.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 15, 2010, 07:24:23 PM
No, fuck that. Our government needs a total overhaul before anyone starts drilling again. This shit can't happen again.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 15, 2010, 07:28:44 PM
Oh well, in that case...
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Akala on July 15, 2010, 07:29:42 PM
odds are very low!
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Akala on July 15, 2010, 07:34:26 PM
I'm in LA, work in the drilling industry, and will be the first to tell you that there are many other wells that might be unsafe. Still, the odds of something like this happening again are very low.

Challenger low.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Boogie on July 15, 2010, 07:34:56 PM
No, fuck that. Our government needs a total overhaul before anyone starts drilling again. This shit can't happen again.

Problem being of course:  diminishing production from existing sources + growing global demand + new/renewable sources unable to take up the gap = we're fucked.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 15, 2010, 07:39:20 PM
Quote from: Akala
I'm in LA, work in the drilling industry, and will be the first to tell you that there are many other wells that might be unsafe. Still, the odds of something like this happening again are very low.

... I don't understand this logic. Who gives a shit if the odds are low. We obviously need to tighten shit up.

Problem being of course:  diminishing production from existing sources + growing global demand + new/renewable sources unable to take up the gap = we're fucked.

This economic apocalypse equation of yours is not going to occur unless we stop drilling altogether, which I'm not saying we should, but it's obvious that our government gave the oil industry carte blanche and we all saw how that worked out.

There are specific safety mechanisms and regulations in place that every other industrialized nation has built in. I don't see why we should continue drilling until we fix that.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Akala on July 15, 2010, 07:54:27 PM
Challenger odds? Those would be 1/275.  We're fucked. :usacry

  :shh

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I thought of that after the 'post.' I also doubt there was much willful negligence in the Challenger's case.
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I do believe in actually enforcing some of the regulations though. This puts me in the minority.  :'(

Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Ichirou on July 15, 2010, 08:27:26 PM
Challenger odds? Those would be 1/275.  We're fucked. :usacry

  :shh

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I thought of that after the 'post.' I also doubt there was much willful negligence in the Challenger's case.
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I do believe in actually enforcing some of the regulations though. This puts me in the minority.  :'(



smh
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: brawndolicious on July 15, 2010, 10:27:48 PM
The sad thing is if there is one area where the government can affect change easily it's with engineering standards.  Engineers love standards!  It makes there lives both easier and more difficult, which is what engineers like. 
:lol which is why we needed 20 years to retrofit the bay bridge.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 16, 2010, 11:59:05 AM
The sad thing is if there is one area where the government can affect change easily it's with engineering standards.  Engineers love standards!  It makes there lives both easier and more difficult, which is what engineers like. 
:lol which is why we needed 20 years to retrofit the bay bridge.

?

It took 20 years because it took 20 years (of which 10 were studying the bridge and evaluating options before construction began). The only "standards" involved was that it should survive a quake as large or larger than the '89 quake if the epicenter was near the bridge.

<---- Engineer who is Standard's bitch pool boy
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Mupepe on July 16, 2010, 12:03:51 PM
hey mamacint, you can be my bitch pool boy and i'll give you some fucking lemonade.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 18, 2010, 10:27:36 PM
So apparently that crazy guy on Dylan Ratigan maybe wasn't so crazy after all. (http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/18/gulf.oil.disaster/index.html)
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Akala on July 18, 2010, 11:23:03 PM
ruh roh.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 18, 2010, 11:24:28 PM
Akala, how long until we all die?
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Akala on July 18, 2010, 11:28:16 PM
Akala, how long until we all die?

at least a few weeks. I guess it would depend on how far from the coast you are...

Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 18, 2010, 11:32:24 PM
So do you guys think that if it looks like we're on the verge of impending doom that Disney will bump up the release of Tron Legacy?
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 18, 2010, 11:36:05 PM
So do you guys think that if it looks like we're on the verge of impending doom that Disney will bump up the release of Tron Legacy?

Probably not.

:fbm
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on July 20, 2010, 01:55:53 PM
(http://i28.tinypic.com/219nq61.jpg)

Source (http://www.americablog.com/2010/07/bp-photoshops-fake-photo-of-command.html)
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 20, 2010, 02:41:15 PM
BP :lol
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Dickie Dee on July 20, 2010, 03:39:30 PM
EEEEeeeeeeviiiilll

Quote
BP admits 'lobbying UK over Libya prisoner transfer scheme but not Lockerbie bomber'

BP is facing fresh scrutiny into whether it was involved in the release of the Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Ali Mohmet al-Megrahi, after the oil giant admitted lobbying the British government over a prisoner agreement with Libya.

BP said it pressed for a deal over the controversial prisoner transfer agreement (PTA) amid fears any delays to negotiations would damage its “commercial interests” and disrupt its £900 million offshore drilling operations in the region.

 
But it denied claims that it had been involved in negotiations concerning the release of Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber freed by Scottish authorities last year.

The admission came just hours after Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, pledged to investigate allegations of BP's involvement in his release ahead of its planned new drilling in Libya.

It followed a letter from four US senators who had accused the company of having a hand in the release of Megrahi, who was released last year by the Scottish government on "health grounds" and compassionate grounds.

Mrs Clinton’s intervention came after the American Democratic senators called for an investigation into BP’s interests in Libya, as they tried to connect the oil group with a deal to free the convicted terrorist.


Increasing the pressure on BP, John Kerry, the chairman of the Senate foreign relations committee, said it would hold a hearing on the release of Megrahi on July 29, at which representatives of company would be called to testify.

“I opposed Megrahi’s release on medical grounds last year as a travesty and the details that have emerged in recent days in the press have raised new concerns,” said Mr Kerry.

In a statement issued on Thursday, the company admitted it had lobbied the British Government over the controversial prisoner deal but denied any involvement in Megrahi’s release.

“It is matter of public record that in late 2007 BP told the UK Government that we were concerned about the slow progress that was being made in concluding a prisoner transfer agreement with Libya,” the company said in a statement.

“We were aware that this could have a negative impact on UK commercial interests, including the ratification by the Libyan Government of BP's exploration agreement.”

But a spokesman added: “The decision to release Mr al-Megrahi in August 2009 was taken by the Scottish Government.

“It’s not for BP to comment on the decision of the Scottish Government.

“BP was not involved in any discussions with the UK Government or the Scottish Government about the release of Mr al-Megrahi.”

Company sources later attempted to play down the statement, saying it was “old news”.

A spokesman for David Cameron, the Prime Minister, also denied there was a link between his release and the company.

There was “no link between the Scottish executive’s decision to release Megrahi” and BP, the Prime Minister’s spokesman told reporters in London.

It was a fresh blow to BP, which is battling to save its reputation after the Gulf of Mexico oil slick while it also faced a series of attacks from US politicians.

Frank Lautenberg, a Democratic senator from New Jersey, led calls for an investigation into whether BP helped to secure the early release of Megrahi.

“It is shocking to even contemplate that BP is profiting from the release of a terrorist with the blood of 189 Americans on his hands,” Mr Lautenberg wrote in a letter to the Senate foreign relations committee.

His colleague Robert Menendez added: "If BP is found to have helped free this mass murderer that would further de-legitimise the Scottish court's decision to grant him compassionate release.”

On Thursday, the two Californian senators also joined the calls for BP to face an official investigation.

In a letter to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein wrote: “Commercial interests - oil or otherwise - should never be prioritised over justice for victims of terrorist acts and severe punishment for convicted terrorists”.

Last year Jack Straw admitted to The Daily Telegraph that Libyan trade and oil were an "essential part'' of the Government's decision to include the bomber in the PTA.

The former Justice Secretary said he was unapologetic about including Abdelbaset al Megrahi in the agreement, citing a multi-million-pound oil deal signed by BP and Libya six weeks later.

Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Mupepe on July 20, 2010, 03:48:45 PM
After the relief wells hit probably.  New company name will need to be associated with the positive cleanup efforts.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Yeti on July 20, 2010, 04:48:45 PM
They'll need a new logo to go with the new name too.

http://www.logomyway.com/contestView.php?contestId=1746
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: T-Short on July 20, 2010, 04:50:39 PM
Conan's Twitter:

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UK PM in DC to talk BP with VP. Damn, I just lost my Twitter license.
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Brehvolution on July 21, 2010, 10:08:22 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/21/china-oil-spill-grows-off_n_653852.html#s116805

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Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Mupepe on July 21, 2010, 10:09:19 AM
good fucking god what the hell!  we are fucked
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 30, 2010, 11:50:43 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/29/scientists-find-evidence_n_664298.html?ref=twitter
 
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Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: drew on July 30, 2010, 12:12:33 PM
Jesus Christ, now there's a spill in Michigan, I hate humans
Title: Re: Michael Bay mission to put dome on oil spill fails, BP wants to clog it w/ trash
Post by: brawndolicious on July 30, 2010, 02:04:47 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/29/scientists-find-evidence_n_664298.html?ref=twitter
 
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Wow, I don't know how much the oil/dispersant would harm the sea life but it does seem that the seafood industry could be really set back because of this.