THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: TripleA on May 26, 2010, 12:47:09 PM
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Natal will launch in the US this October with a price tag of $149.
That’s according to a trusted source, who told us that the motion sensing camera will also be bundled with the Xbox 360 Arcade console for $299.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/natal-to-cost-149-%E2%80%93-source (http://www.edge-online.com/news/natal-to-cost-149-%E2%80%93-source)
If this is the final price, then Microsoft will need a day 1 killer app to sell this thing.
(p.s their source is the same guy who gave them the GeOW3 info that turned out to be spot on)
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good. now it is assured to fail.
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:o
That's crazy!
Way to expensive.
I thought I heard they were trying to get the thing closer to $50.
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Damn,few seconds late >:(
:piss TripleA
Natal will launch in the US this October with a price tag of $149.
That’s according to a trusted source, who told us that the motion sensing camera will also be bundled with the Xbox 360 Arcade console for $299.
We were informed that prices outside of the US would be determined based on a number of factors, including exchange rates. Based on current rates, the standalone unit would retail for £103 / €121, and the console and Natal bundle for £207 / €243.
The figure for the standalone unit is significantly higher than a previous sub-£50 estimate, but less than pricing recently suggested by European retailers. It’s also more expensive than Sony’s Natal rival Move, which will be available later this year with a game for less than $100.
Our source said that the device has been pencilled in for an October 26 worldwide launch, although we were advised that the date could yet shift by a few weeks either way.
We were also told Microsoft’s camera definitely won’t be called Natal and that its proper title will be revealed at E3 next month. It will also be heavily targeted at causal players and families.
“Microsoft expects to sell millions and millions of Natal units in its first year on the market so you can expect the software launch line-up to target non-traditional gamers,” our source said. “A major marketing campaign will also play a key role in attracting and educating the expanded audience about Xbox 360’s controller-free revolution.”
When contacted about this report, Microsoft told us that it "does not comment on rumour or speculation”.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/natal-to-cost-149-%E2%80%93-source (http://www.edge-online.com/news/natal-to-cost-149-%E2%80%93-source)
Edge was right about Gears of War 3...so bend over xbots >:(
I think that this Arcade will be "360 slim" together with some USB stick probably.
Name will be probably changed too..."Netal" release = 360 :violin
But hey,at least we can speculate about new name. :lol
:yuck
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But hey,at least we can speculate about new name. :lol
:yuck
You know the weird thing is, the perfect name for Project Natal is Move
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Microsoft Minstrel(tm)
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NO POWER GREATER THAN X
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:piss Natal :piss2
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who exactly do they think is going to buy this thing for $150?
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sold.
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sold.
dirty xbot
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Microsoft Minstrel(tm)
hahahahaha
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also, PASS
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MS can't do shit.
They are so out of synch with what people want. All they can do is pay to have what others have and people want. From there on, lol.
Look at all dat fresh new I.P, or how their hardware division is a big bunch of failatons. Natal is gonna bomb hard.
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:rofl pretty much.
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who exactly do they think is going to buy this thing for $150?
The Microsoft Equivalent of an iPad owner?
Hmmm... day one member... too soon?
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who exactly do they think is going to buy this thing for $150?
The Microsoft Equivalent of an iPad owner?
Hmmm... day one member... too soon?
No. Because the MS equivalent to an ipad owner is someone who likes videogames. And someone who likes videogames isn't necessarily going to buy this steam pile for 150.
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The Microsoft SpaZZ(TM)
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I thought they were aiming for $99 (which I still thought was too high)?
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Twist 'n' Shart™
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They better be putting all kinds of Halos and shit in the box if they want to sell a few of these
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This motion stuff is officially dead. Accelerometers, gyros, cameras..worthless wankery. Even from a financial perspective, the casual games don't really sell on any merits and don't entice people to buy sequels (unless it has Nintendo stamped on the box of course).
I think waggle games have finally died after 4 years.
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:lol :lol That's too bad if true
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for $50 more you can get an entire system with controller & motion+, two complete games, and have access to all kinds of cheap bullshit family waggle games straight out of the box
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I wouldn't buy this even for €50. It looks ridiculous.
Move on the other hand..
I hope Move is priced more effectively.
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Sorry people,the more hate it gets from hardcore camp the better it will sell.
:smug
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I wouldn't buy this even for €50. It looks ridiculous.
Move on the other hand..
I hope Move is priced more effectively.
:lol
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Natal looks like EyeToy HD, and Eye Toy games suck ass. All of them.
Move is Wii HD, so it has a chance of having good games. Though chances are small.
I just like to have something physical in my hand(s) when I play a game. The technology isn't advanced enough to be 1:1 precise without a peripheral on hand.
All the Netal demo's so far have been laggy and very unresponsive.
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I wouldn't buy this even for €50. It looks ridiculous.
Move on the other hand..
I hope Move is priced more effectively.
The only way Move is priced effectively is if Sony hires someone to make a smart decision.
So it's not happening.
More info on Natal pricing (Credit goes to gofreak) http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39166/Natal-to-cost-149-change-name (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39166/Natal-to-cost-149-change-name)
MCV has been lead to believe that reports citing a $149 RRP (£103) for Microsoft’s Project Natal are accurate.
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Good news for us. The quicker this thing bombs, the quicker we can all get back to playing real games.
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Natal looks like EyeToy HD, and Eye Toy games suck ass. All of them.
Move is Wii HD, so it has a chance of having good games. Though chances are small.
I just like to have something physical in my hand(s) when I play a game. The technology isn't advanced enough to be 1:1 precise without a peripheral on hand.
All the Netal demo's so far have been laggy and very unresponsive.
The chances of Move having good games isn't small, it's quite large actually.
The problem is we're not seeing the controller's capabilities (the 1:1 stuff and glowing ball) being used effectively.
Hopefully Sony will show something special at E3.
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More info on Natal pricing (Credit goes to gofreak) http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39166/Natal-to-cost-149-change-name (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39166/Natal-to-cost-149-change-name)
Who?
A user on the other forum (he posted the link)
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More info on Natal pricing (Credit goes to gofreak) http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39166/Natal-to-cost-149-change-name (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/39166/Natal-to-cost-149-change-name)
Who?
:lol
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Move will bomb too. Nobody wants to play Wii ports with glowing dildos.
Hopefully, we'll get back to the business of making REAL games within a year. Let Nintendo have the non-gaming market, they are quite good at not making games.
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I see what you did there.
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Natal will bomb and Move will fucking suck balls.
Let's move on.
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one of the big reasons everybody ignores why Nintendo is eating up the entire casual market, its cheaper then the other guys. The games are cheaper, the system is cheaper (and comes with a game out of the box).
As long as there's a lower priced alternative that does in the eyes of many people, exactly the same damned thing, I don't see why Move or Natal should catch on.
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Move + The Show = :drool
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I could have told you Gears 3 was being made
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yeah but did you know they are planning on making another madden next year
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Well... no
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I don't know whether this or Move will be worse. From what I can tell, Natal is going to have entirely different games that require body flailing while Move is going to be be an optional method for future Sony games plus have that shovelware. And I still don't get why they thing this would counter Nintendo when most of the big Wii games hardly have motion controls.
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I don't know whether this or Move will be worse. From what I can tell, Natal is going to have entirely different games that require body flailing while Move is going to be be an optional method for future Sony games plus have that shovelware. And I still don't get why they thing this would counter Nintendo when most of the big Wii games hardly have motion controls.
Move is getting Wii ports.
At least Natal forces them to make new games.
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I think the bundle pricing and the standalone pricing pretty much cements the fact that Microsoft doesn't care if their existing userbase buys the thing or not.
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Forces who ???
Basically.
Anyway, they could pay me $150 for Natal, wouldn't "buy" it.
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Move + The Show = :drool
If it kept the realism you would be demoted to the minors pretty fast :'(
Well, you start out in the minors in Road to the Show anyways.
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Forces who ???
Ubisoft is hard at work on a brand new version of Just Dance and Babyz for Natal!
Move + The Show = :drool
If it kept the realism you would be demoted to the minors pretty fast :'(
they probably wouldn't use it for the main game. That one power pros game for the Wii has waggle hitting and is kept for things like home run derby. The main baseball career is all regular controls.
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yes but lightsabers
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I think the bundle pricing and the standalone pricing pretty much cements the fact that Microsoft doesn't care if their existing userbase buys the thing or not.
Well they better care.
Because if the casuals decide to ignore Natal, then they have no one to sell the thing to.
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maybe natal was in a vortex and microsoft had to price it at $150
i mean don't pass judgment if you don't know
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The Casuals
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imagine video game bowling with a twist, you're actually making the same moves you would make in a bowling alley
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tennis, only instead of moving a person onscreen with a stick you are moving yourself
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one of the big reasons everybody ignores why Nintendo is eating up the entire casual market, its cheaper then the other guys. The games are cheaper, the system is cheaper (and comes with a game out of the box).
Also, accessibility.
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racing, but instead of cumbersome wheels and pedals or unrealistic controllers you are simply moving your foot downward and moving your hands in tandem
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imagine video game bowling with a twist, you're actually making the same moves you would make in a bowling alley
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golf, where previously inconvenient clubs are now weightless and the slightest torso rotation affects your swing
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these are the kinds of foreward-thinking ideas and electronics innovations which will lead us into the future of gaming, where the playing field is leveled for everyone and the only limit is your imagination
welcome to the total gaming train, all aboard the imaginengine
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:gloomy
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all I want from a camera controller game is something where the game shows a video of you playing, but adds random things into the background to freak you out. Like randomly the game shows puts in the image of a guy walking towards you making you turn around and piss yourself until you eventually get accustomed to it and when it is happening for real, you're fucked.
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worst.idea.ever
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worst.idea.ever
The Wii?
Yes, it was.
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worst.idea.ever
The Wii?
Yes, it was.
get ready for some chartz.
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That column chart is STACKED! :drool
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:rofl
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I think the bundle pricing and the standalone pricing pretty much cements the fact that Microsoft doesn't care if their existing userbase buys the thing or not.
Well they better care.
Because if the casuals decide to ignore Natal, then they have no one to sell the thing to.
... but it's not targeted at its existing user base. It's only goal is to grow its market share. If it doesn't sell to the casuals, then it failed anyway.
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:lol
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Yea...good luck with that. The $300 bundle better come with a game
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Yea...good luck with that. The $300 bundle better come with a game
I would think that it would, seeing as how MS typically packs in two games with the hardware.
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This is so hilarious. :lol :lol :lol :lol
How can anyone honestly say they enjoy Microsoft after their shady business practices this generation and now this. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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it's not just microsoft, everyone's doing the peripheral shag now along with the dlc nickel 'n' dime boogie
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This is so hilarious. :lol :lol :lol :lol
How can anyone honestly say they enjoy Microsoft after their shady business practices this generation and now this. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Enjoy Microsoft? :lol
I don't fucking "enjoy" any company. I play games on these fucking things. I don't do this to smoke some corporate pole.
I could give a good god damn about MS, Sony, or Nintendo. It's the internet cheerleaders I could definitely do without. Gas the fuckers.
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This is so hilarious. :lol :lol :lol :lol
How can anyone honestly say they enjoy Microsoft after their shady business practices this generation and now this. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
I couldn't care less about Natal though. If I had to have it in order to play a game that I actually want to play, then yeah there's an issue.
Does this price honestly affect whether anybody here would get it? No, nobody was going to get Natal or the Move anyways.
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I think we've finally cracked the LOST code.
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smith-chart.jpg
Someone, somewhere, for reasons I can't even comprehend, has been annihilated.
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This is so hilarious. :lol :lol :lol :lol
How can anyone honestly say they enjoy Microsoft after their shady business practices this generation and now this. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
You are seriously the worst poster i've ever seen.
"Enjoy Microsoft". Who the fuck enjoys Microsoft, you must be mistaken, this ain't the Apple store equivalent of whatever the fuck you like bitch.
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Welp, that about does it for Sony.
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Natal looks like EyeToy HD, and Eye Toy games suck ass. All of them.
Move is Wii HD, so it has a chance of having good games. Though chances are small.
I just like to have something physical in my hand(s) when I play a game. The technology isn't advanced enough to be 1:1 precise without a peripheral on hand.
All the Netal demo's so far have been laggy and very unresponsive.
The chances of MoveWii having good games isn't small, it's quite large actually.
The problem is we're not seeing the controller's capabilities (the 1:1 stuff and glowing ballnunchuck) being used effectively.
Hopefully SonyNintendo will show something special at E3 2008.
wow, flashbacks to the wii's first year
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Yea...good luck with that. The $300 bundle better come with a game
I would think that it would, seeing as how MS typically packs in two games with the hardware.
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killer ap :rock
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Fuck the dog milo, fuck the dog. The stick milo, use the stick, GODDAMNIT MILO WHAT DID I TELLED YOU!?
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I'll believe it after the announcement. $150 :rofl I'm yet to buy peripherals I actually want (good fighting stick, more controllers, motionplus) let alone some POS I'm going to regret buying. Might get Move as LBP2 is implementing it and my gf loves that game, however I probably will never even consider Natal.
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I'll probably get Natal if there is a good deal and there is some compelling software. If I can use it as a general interface for my 360, that alone would increase the value. I have mad ocd about keeping stuff in my room clean. With Natal, I can be eating fried chicken and downloading the demo for You're in the Movies 2.
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Why did they remove the chip in the unit if it was gonna be $150 anyway? They aren't planning on selling this at a loss?
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Why did they remove the chip in the unit if it was gonna be $150 anyway? They aren't planning on selling this at a loss?
According to some people, the unit itself is costing around 50$ to MS now that the cpu isn't there.
So apparently, MS wants to make Nintendo like profit.
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(http://talklikeaphysicist.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/smith-chart.jpg)
Oh God I remember those :'(
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Why did they remove the chip in the unit if it was gonna be $150 anyway? They aren't planning on selling this at a loss?
According to some people, the unit itself is costing around 50$ to MS now that the cpu isn't there.
So apparently, MS wants to make Nintendo like profit.
Makes sense. That's why it's releasing during the holiday season.
Anyone know if they fixed the issue of not reading a black person?
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Why did they remove the chip in the unit if it was gonna be $150 anyway? They aren't planning on selling this at a loss?
According to some people, the unit itself is costing around 50$ to MS now that the cpu isn't there.
So apparently, MS wants to make Nintendo like profit.
Makes sense. That's why it's releasing during the holiday season.
Anyone know if they fixed the issue of not reading a black person?
Weren't those only the HP webcams or is it a universal issue?
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Why did they remove the chip in the unit if it was gonna be $150 anyway? They aren't planning on selling this at a loss?
According to some people, the unit itself is costing around 50$ to MS now that the cpu isn't there.
So apparently, MS wants to make Nintendo like profit.
Makes sense. That's why it's releasing during the holiday season.
Anyone know if they fixed the issue of not reading a black person?
Weren't those only the HP webcams or is it a universal issue?
I think N'gai Croal (an african american games journalist) was experiencing difficulties with Natal i.e it wouldn't track him right.
It was more than likely a lighting issue.
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NEWSFLASH!
http://www.destructoid.com/former-microsoft-studio-manager-says-natal-will-fail-174716.phtml
Wow... thanks for the info. :lol
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NEWSFLASH!
http://www.destructoid.com/former-microsoft-studio-manager-says-natal-will-fail-174716.phtml
Wow... thanks for the info. :lol
Peripherals can succeed if they're reasonably priced and offer a fun and exciting new experience.
Of course, they can also fail hard.
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"Enjoy Microsoft". Who the fuck enjoys Microsoft, you must be mistaken, this ain't the Apple store equivalent of whatever the fuck you like bitch.
me, actually. scott guthrie is so dreamy
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me, actually. scott guthrie is so dreamy
I would think Eric Lippert (http://blogs.msdn.com/ericlippert) would be more your type.
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It doesn't matter anyway. Natal isn't for me.