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Title: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 03, 2010, 02:08:02 AM
:bow

Most badass movie I've seen in awhile. Discuss
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 03, 2010, 02:30:26 AM
Maurice is easily impressed :bow

Discuss.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 03, 2010, 02:45:29 AM
Maurice is easily impressed :bow

Discuss.

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It had me entertained and laughing from beginning to end. I wish I saw it in the theater, would have been a good experience.

And I liked how the score basically rips off TDK :rofl
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on June 03, 2010, 02:45:43 AM
I liked it, but competent action films are becoming a rarity these days.
Still, pretty good, and pretty funny to boot.  I wouldn't mind a sequel, but its no great shakes.

And yes its better then Avatar.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: brawndolicious on June 03, 2010, 05:14:01 AM
I liked it a lot but better than TDK? nicca please!
Exactly, it doesn't even need to be said.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Ichirou on June 03, 2010, 06:12:16 AM
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:himu2

:rofl
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 03, 2010, 07:53:03 AM
Cmon man...just NOOOoooo....
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 03, 2010, 08:25:48 AM
I'll watch it this evening just so I can come and piss on it in this thread.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Diunx on June 03, 2010, 09:23:14 AM
Loved it, I hope we get a sequel.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 03, 2010, 12:23:58 PM
smh a troll thread covering as many bases as possible (Manabyte, GS) gets trolled.

Kick-Ass WAS awesome tho
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 03, 2010, 12:24:25 PM
I haven't even seen it and I don't agree.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Robo on June 03, 2010, 12:27:17 PM
MacGruber > Kick-Ass
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 03, 2010, 01:10:46 PM
Batman Begins was a million times better than the Dark Knight. 
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 03, 2010, 01:22:41 PM
Batman Begins was a million times better than the Dark Knight. 
:yuck

Such a bad movie

at least it had more going for it then "omg teh dark mature joker that justifies my 40 year old man-child love for comic book characters."  The Dark Knight was not solid at all.  Not to mention the ending was all cut up and anti-climactic.   
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2010, 01:27:49 PM
The ending and beginning did suck, but Batman Begins was a big pile of dog shit that you step in while wearing socks running around in the yard as a kid and it sort of squishes through the fabric and you have to peel it off but you still have shit juice on your foot and you're not quite sure what to do with the sock so you just hold it at arms length and limp to the hose to rinse off your foot while trying not to vomit.

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Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Don Flamenco on June 03, 2010, 01:28:10 PM
The ending and beginning did suck, but Batman Begins was a big pile of dog shit that you step in while wearing socks running around in the yard as a kid and it sort of squishes through the fabric and you have to peel it off but you still have shit juice on your foot and you're not quite sure what to do with the sock so you just hold it at arms length and limp to the hose to rinse off your foot while trying not to vomit.


well, some of us like the smell of dog poo, A LOT, so that would be a positive experience for us.  hell yeah, dog doo doo.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2010, 01:28:42 PM
EAT DA POO POO
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 03, 2010, 01:30:55 PM
Batman Begins is not good, it's decent. The lack of a worth while villain OR super hero ruins it. Whereas the Joker manages to carry most of TDK. Sure the ending is lol, and there is much cheese to be had, but it's a great action movie and the best superhero movie by far. Most haters are reacting more to the fanboys than the actual movie.

but who cares about TDK, Kick-Ass is the new hotness :bow
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: fistfulofmetal on June 03, 2010, 01:43:27 PM
All the relationship and high-school bullshit in Kick-Ass was not very good and it took up far to much of the film.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: tehjaybo on June 03, 2010, 01:55:26 PM
I really enjoyed Kick-Ass.  Is it out on BD already?  If so, I need to pick it up.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 03, 2010, 01:57:27 PM
MacGruber > Kick-Ass

Agreed. I'm all about ripping throats, personally.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Robo on June 03, 2010, 02:16:15 PM
I'm all about celery sticks.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Mupepe on June 03, 2010, 02:18:23 PM
The worst thing about TDK is rewatching it.  The movie has little replay value and it's only made worse by the terrible pacing.  If I watch it once a year or even less often, then it's all good.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 03, 2010, 02:19:29 PM
I'm all about celery sticks.

This is where I wish I had an animated .GIF of MacGruber's smug face nodding in appreciation. :smug
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Mr. Gundam on June 03, 2010, 07:39:50 PM
Didn't see it. :bow

Discuss.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 03, 2010, 07:46:04 PM
I watched The Dark Knight like 74 times.

wow you are right about your life sucking.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 03, 2010, 07:49:49 PM
I watched The Dark Knight like 74 times.

wow you are right about your life sucking.
:rofl
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: drew on June 03, 2010, 07:50:08 PM
Kick Ass was squarely aimed at serial GAF posters, so this thread makes sense.

dont forget the gunfags!
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: tehjaybo on June 03, 2010, 08:29:06 PM
I will have Big Daddy's gun room one day.

Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: OptimoPeach on June 03, 2010, 09:11:01 PM
I refuse to watch a movie titled "Kick-Ass"
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 04, 2010, 01:40:24 AM
That's Arvie telling you that as well.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 04, 2010, 01:44:10 AM
I feel bad for people that are currently 18-22. It's the prime of your movie watching years and you hold up shit like this as seminal stuff.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 04, 2010, 01:46:14 AM
I'd say my prime was before that age. At least in terms of theater-going.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 04, 2010, 01:55:42 AM
Yea, probably 16-20. I was getting high and watching dvds more when I was 21-22.

Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 04, 2010, 02:15:56 AM
Yea, probably 16-20. I was getting high and watching dvds more when I was 21-22.



DVDs were around when you were 21-22?
Title: ...and
Post by: EvilBoris on June 04, 2010, 04:04:29 AM
Quote
Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
> Stardust
 
 admittedly I have not yet seen and been blitzed by the supposed novelty (pandering) of 'Kick Ass'.. 
I've never really been stirred by Vaughn's pastiche output and his guy ritchie study of all those adrenalized shot/sound mix enhancements.
and aaron johnson... not hot

Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: chronovore on June 06, 2010, 09:53:34 PM
The Stardust novel is much better than the movie. Movie is kinda pretty, but blows the main point of the story in rewriting the ending. However, Michelle Pfeiffer still being hot makes up for a lot of things.

KICK-ASS hasn't come out in Japan, I think. Possibly later this summer? Everything except James Cameron or Spielberg movies opens late here. Book of Eli is just about to open. Will pass.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: ManaByte on June 06, 2010, 10:06:58 PM
Batman Begins is not good, it's decent. The lack of a worth while villain OR super hero ruins it. Whereas the Joker manages to carry most of TDK. Sure the ending is lol, and there is much cheese to be had, but it's a great action movie and the best superhero movie by far. Most haters are reacting more to the fanboys than the actual movie.

but who cares about TDK, Kick-Ass is the new hotness :bow

Begins has a better focus than TDK, and better villains. Ra's, Scarecrow, and Falcone are all villains from the comics and fit the first movie better than turning it into THE JOKER MOVIE like Burton did.

TDK's Joker is just wrong. Joker is kooky/funny-crazy, not creepy-serial killer crazy. Nicholson's Joker is a thousand times better than Ledgers and Ledger only got praise because he dropped dead. Actually read the Killing Joke. They gave that to Ledger to read, but he seems to have ignored it. The Joker in that and just about every other good Joker story is completely different from what Ledger did. Ledger's Joker sends a bomb to Gotham PD in a fat guy's chest. The Joker in the comic would send a bomb to Gotham PD filled with marzipan and kittens. Ledgers Joker would just shoot the Jason Todd Robin. The comic Joker would tie him up in a circus tent, beat him to a bloody pulp with a crowbar while laughing, and then blow him up with dynamite.

The only thing TDK did right was Two-Face (unlike Batman Forever), and then they went and got stupid by killing him.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 06, 2010, 10:20:14 PM
Batman Begins is not good, it's decent. The lack of a worth while villain OR super hero ruins it. Whereas the Joker manages to carry most of TDK. Sure the ending is lol, and there is much cheese to be had, but it's a great action movie and the best superhero movie by far. Most haters are reacting more to the fanboys than the actual movie.

but who cares about TDK, Kick-Ass is the new hotness :bow

Begins has a better focus than TDK, and better villains. Ra's, Scarecrow, and Falcone are all villains from the comics and fit the first movie better than turning it into THE JOKER MOVIE like Burton did.

TDK's Joker is just wrong. Joker is kooky/funny-crazy, not creepy-serial killer crazy. Nicholson's Joker is a thousand times better than Ledgers and Ledger only got praise because he dropped dead. Actually read the Killing Joke. They gave that to Ledger to read, but he seems to have ignored it. The Joker in that and just about every other good Joker story is completely different from what Ledger did. Ledger's Joker sends a bomb to Gotham PD in a fat guy's chest. The Joker in the comic would send a bomb to Gotham PD filled with marzipan and kittens. Ledgers Joker would just shoot the Jason Todd Robin. The comic Joker would tie him up in a circus tent, beat him to a bloody pulp with a crowbar while laughing, and then blow him up with dynamite.

The only thing TDK did right was Two-Face (unlike Batman Forever), and then they went and got stupid by killing him.

TDK's Joker made three guys fight each other to the death with pointy sticks, shoved a pencil through a guy's eyeball as part of a magic trick, and burned up a giant pile of money. How is that not awesome?
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 06, 2010, 10:23:35 PM
good lord, if you think BB had better villains than TDK...then there's no point in talking to you. The villains in BB are boring, not interesting, and weren't particularly menacing. And none of this "bububu the comic book" bullshit. The films stand alone, and it was Nolan's vision of the Batman universe. The Joker in TDK is one of the best film villains in recent history. Was he exactly like the comic version? No. But to use that as a negative is just fanboy bitching, and an opinion held by a small minority of fanboys.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: ManaByte on June 06, 2010, 10:43:31 PM
Nolan's vision? Oh come on. BB is basically Batman: Year One combined with The Man Who Falls and the tone of Long Halloween.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: brawndolicious on June 07, 2010, 05:54:06 AM
good lord, if you think BB had better villains than TDK...then there's no point in talking to you. The villains in BB are boring, not interesting, and weren't particularly menacing. And none of this "bububu the comic book" bullshit. The films stand alone, and it was Nolan's vision of the Batman universe. The Joker in TDK is one of the best film villains in recent history. Was he exactly like the comic version? No. But to use that as a negative is just fanboy bitching, and an opinion held by a small minority of fanboys.
Everything about the '"comic book" Joker was more interesting.
 
It's like manabyte said, he fucks with people just for fun.  He doesn't kill people because he's depressed and angry, he does it because he thinks it's art.

I think Ledger just didn't get Nicholson's Joker.  He wasn't just a nihilist with some bullshit anarchistic goal.  The Joker is even less human than that.  That's what makes him awesome.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 07, 2010, 09:21:31 AM
Nolan's vision? Oh come on. BB is basically Batman: Year One combined with The Man Who Falls and the tone of Long Halloween.

You got Long Halloween from Begins?  That shit is hardly present in the first movie, but is at the forefront for TDK.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: ManaByte on June 07, 2010, 12:40:44 PM
good lord, if you think BB had better villains than TDK...then there's no point in talking to you. The villains in BB are boring, not interesting, and weren't particularly menacing. And none of this "bububu the comic book" bullshit. The films stand alone, and it was Nolan's vision of the Batman universe. The Joker in TDK is one of the best film villains in recent history. Was he exactly like the comic version? No. But to use that as a negative is just fanboy bitching, and an opinion held by a small minority of fanboys.
Everything about the '"comic book" Joker was more interesting.
 
It's like manabyte said, he fucks with people just for fun.  He doesn't kill people because he's depressed and angry, he does it because he thinks it's art.

I think Ledger just didn't get Nicholson's Joker.  He wasn't just a nihilist with some bullshit anarchistic goal.  The Joker is even less human than that.  That's what makes him awesome.

Exactly.

When Nicholson's Joker kills Grissom in Batman, THAT is the Joker. He doesn't just shoot him. He shoots him and then starts laughing and dancing around while shooting him some more.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Raban on June 07, 2010, 01:15:45 PM
shit>poo>crap>feces

:bow

:bow jarosh :bow2
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 07, 2010, 01:35:22 PM
The villains in BB were terrible.  That dude with the dumb name and that other guy who was onscreen for like 2 minutes?  Great.  And the bad guy's plot was lolworthy.  Really just a bad movie all around for internet nerds who care too much about comic book no one else does.

Also

:piss Origin stories :piss2

bububu scarecrow

Seriously BB's rogue gallery sucks. The Joker in TDK carries the entire damn movie. Who cares if he wasn't 100% accurate to the comics unless you're a loser
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Mupepe on June 07, 2010, 02:11:32 PM
Ask most people what happens in the last half of BB and I bet they can't tell you.  It's so boring and you forget it as soon as the image passes. 
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: bork on June 07, 2010, 03:45:28 PM
Watched Kick-Ass last night.  It was all right.  The Mafia guys, Hit Girl, and Big Daddy were awesome.  It was Kick-Ass himself that dragged the movie down.  The parts with him were boring, geeky-guy wants hot chick been-there-done-that scenarios. 

The best part of the movie was when
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Hit Girl showed up for the first time and brutally murdered all of the drug dealers at Razool's.
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  I didn't read the comics and didn't even know the movie got an R rating.  It was pretty tame up until this part, and so the "surprise" was hilarious.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: chronovore on June 07, 2010, 09:33:54 PM
I watched this last night as well, after picking it up from the same rental place LyteEdge did.

Also finding myself in agreement with his assessment: KICK ASS as a character was pretty lame, and I know that is kind of the point of the character since the first five minutes' exposition is entirely about him not being special in any way. The boy has pretty eyes and he'll probably do OK in Hollywood, but I didn't find his story compelling.

Overall, I'd say it was a little better than WANTED: Weapons of Fate, though it had a number of the same production hallmarks, and felt pretty similar. And was also based on a Millar work.

The real treat was Big Daddy and Hit Girl. Nic Cage must have been stoked to have a chance at a Batman-style character. His use of the speaking cadence of Adam West's Batman was lolworthy in a good way.
:bow Nic Cage :bow2 

Any sequence with Hit Girl will also be getting repeated views after I pick up the BluRay. Little girl is a virtuoso of violence, almost to the point of feeling bad for the 12-year-old playing the role.

Anyone read the comic? Is it worth picking up?
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: ManaByte on June 07, 2010, 10:11:04 PM
Nolan's vision? Oh come on. BB is basically Batman: Year One combined with The Man Who Falls and the tone of Long Halloween.

You got Long Halloween from Begins?  That shit is hardly present in the first movie, but is at the forefront for TDK.

Falcone is from Long Halloween.
Title: Re: Kick-Ass>TDK>Star Wars>Avatar
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 07, 2010, 10:18:33 PM
Nolan's vision? Oh come on. BB is basically Batman: Year One combined with The Man Who Falls and the tone of Long Halloween.

You got Long Halloween from Begins?  That shit is hardly present in the first movie, but is at the forefront for TDK.

Falcone is from Long Halloween.

And Batman: Year One.