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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Shuri on June 17, 2010, 09:10:31 PM

Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Shuri on June 17, 2010, 09:10:31 PM: ..What the fuck?

Why are grown men hyped for this? It looks like your typical platformer? Even that Warren dude looks like he was faking his interest in his own game. Somebody please explain the hype? The concept art was AMAZING, all that gothic cyborg take on disney material, and the end product is .. a generic platformer.

:-\
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 09:13:39 PM: Gayest, kiddiest, most borderline innapropriate game for grown ass people to be hyped for. But watch be nothing but a bunch of grown ass Wii cigarillos buying it, show it to a kid though and he will tell you

"Mickey? Mickey sucks man."
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Bebpo on June 17, 2010, 09:14:18 PM: I don't get it either.

The footage at the Nintendo conference looked a like a poor man's Kingdom Hearts. The 2.5d steamboat willie part looked enjoyable, but the 3d hub painting stuff looked really average. But people are CRAZY EXCITE about this... ???
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 17, 2010, 09:16:18 PM: What Green Man said.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Raban on June 17, 2010, 09:17:07 PM: More platformers = I am pleased.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: WrikaWrek on June 17, 2010, 09:26:45 PM: MICKEY MOUSE SUCKS MICKEY MOUSE SUCKS MICKEY MOUSE SUCKS MICKEY MOUSE SUCKS
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2010, 09:27:46 PM: People are interested in a game you don't care about? I guess you just better :patel
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: cool breeze on June 17, 2010, 09:27:48 PM: It's supposed to have a lot of adventure game and choice/consequence elements. There is more to it than just the platforming, even if some videos make it seem like a bog standard platformer. I'd liken it to looking at Psychonauts and trashing it for being a generic platformer. Something like that.

There is certainly reason to look forward to it. It's not like that Goldeneye Wii game where the excitement for it is baffling.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: pilonv1 on June 17, 2010, 09:39:37 PM: It's amazing what you'll be excited for when you're starved for choice.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: ManaByte on June 17, 2010, 09:42:27 PM: [youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyARvxtSeY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: chronovore on June 17, 2010, 09:53:17 PM: Platformers are fun. Disney has style. Warren's games are fun. What's hard to understand?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 17, 2010, 09:55:57 PM: Warren is why I'm excited for it.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 17, 2010, 09:56:23 PM: Quote from: chronovore on June 17, 2010, 09:53:17 PM
Platformers are fun. Disney has style. Warren's games are fun. What's hard to understand?

Lack of dudebroism.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: chronovore on June 17, 2010, 09:57:46 PM: Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on June 17, 2010, 09:56:23 PM
Quote from: chronovore on June 17, 2010, 09:53:17 PM
Platformers are fun. Disney has style. Warren's games are fun. What's hard to understand?

Lack of dudebroism.
:bow Joe Molotov :bow2
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 10:00:05 PM: It looks like a good platformer with interesting characters and an interesting setting. I look forward to getting sucked into Mickeys world.

The End.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Diunx on June 17, 2010, 10:00:28 PM: Its not like Wii fans have a lot to choose from.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: TripleA on June 17, 2010, 10:01:50 PM: Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2010, 09:27:46 PM
People are interested in a game you don't care about? I guess you just better :patel

(http://xerc.us/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/1255309233937.gif)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Bebpo on June 17, 2010, 10:19:53 PM: Quote from: ManaByte on June 17, 2010, 09:42:27 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyARvxtSeY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Not sure what point you are trying to make with this video.

I made it 30 seconds.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 17, 2010, 10:21:09 PM: don't you like alpha protocol?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: etiolate on June 17, 2010, 10:32:05 PM: Looks like a cross between the 16 bit Disney platformers and a 3d adventure game. Both of which I like. Plus, I am kind of interested in seeing all the rejected cartoon characters.

If it was another Jak and Daxter would I be interested? Probably not, but that is because those games have always lacked real personality or character. An adventure game that doesn't create a world that draws you in fails at one of the basic needs the genre has. Epic Mickey is interesting as a world. The only question is how well they pull off the world concept.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 17, 2010, 10:52:50 PM: The 3D level layout look so bland, Bubsy 3D levels bad.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Jansen on June 17, 2010, 11:23:49 PM: i guess no one working on this was informed of the fact that you need good level design in addition to gameplay mechanics.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Bildi on June 18, 2010, 01:11:35 AM: I dunno, the environments look pretty dull. Even that 2D sidescrolling bit at the conference didn't seem very inspired.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: tiesto on June 18, 2010, 09:01:45 AM: The 3D stuff looked kinda boring and wannabe Okami... the 2D platformer stuff looked interesting though. But that may just be b/c I'm a huge 2D platformer fan.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2010, 09:11:28 AM: Quote from: Green Man on June 17, 2010, 09:15:56 PM
Epic Mickey looks like the Disney game Ive always wanted to play.

Guess you didn't have a Genesis then.

[youtube=560,345]aCNRkFuLVJA[/youtube]

Sega Genesis: king of 2d platformers.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: magus on June 18, 2010, 09:15:54 AM: Quote from: Diunx on June 17, 2010, 10:00:28 PM
Its not like Wii fans have a lot to choose from.
/thread
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2010, 09:18:43 AM: Quote from: ManaByte on June 17, 2010, 09:42:27 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyARvxtSeY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

This footage is not helping your case. This looks like a horrible platformer based on that footage and what's more, the waggle doesn't look remotely fun. Did I see Mickey get hassled by three enemies around him and manage to kill one? The player sucks, sure, but it does not look fun at all.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2010, 09:20:25 AM: Quote from: a slime appears on June 18, 2010, 09:05:04 AM
The game game looks neat and it doesn't have the disgusting weaboo tripe from Kingdom Hearts. Pretty simple to understand.

Quote from: Bebpo on June 17, 2010, 09:14:18 PM
I don't get it either.

The footage at the Nintendo conference looked a like a poor man's Kingdom Hearts. The 2.5d steamboat willie part looked enjoyable, but the 3d hub painting stuff looked really average. But people are CRAZY EXCITE about this... ???

Kingdom Heart's is a poor man's action platformer. That shit is horrendous and embarrassing.

Kingdom Hearts is hardly an action platformer. It's an action rpg and I can't think of too many 3d action rpgs that go for the Secret of Mana game style that are nearly as fun. KH3 needs multiplayer so people can get their Secret of Mana on.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2010, 10:11:09 AM: i wish the whole thing was like the steamboat willie level

before disney totally kiddied him out in the 40s, mickey was kind of a little asshole in the earliest black and white shorts, not like donald duck but more of an troublemaking adventurerer

actually, an old school asshole donald duck game would be awesome
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: chronovore on June 18, 2010, 12:56:32 PM: Yeah, asshole cartoon characters are more fun than nice ones. No-one likes Porky Pig. He's nice. Everyone loves Bugs Bunny; he's a complete jerk.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 18, 2010, 01:11:02 PM: They need to remake Castle of Illusion for the 3DS :heart
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Purple Filth on June 18, 2010, 01:30:38 PM: The 3d segment is yawn inducing to be honest.

I really liked the sidescrolling part though
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2010, 01:33:30 PM: Quote from: chronovore on June 18, 2010, 12:56:32 PM
Yeah, asshole cartoon characters are more fun than nice ones. No-one likes Porky Pig. He's nice. Everyone loves Bugs Bunny; he's a complete jerk.

example: daffy duck

started as a hyperactive bouncing "krazy" character, only achieved bugs-level acceptance as he evolved into a greedy obnoxious prick
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Barry Egan on June 18, 2010, 01:36:41 PM: leper manabyte because this game exists.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2010, 01:37:09 PM: (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k33/GreatRumbler/donaldduck.jpg)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 18, 2010, 01:39:59 PM: i would love to do that to goofy in a video game
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2010, 01:48:55 PM: Quote from: Purple Filth on June 18, 2010, 01:30:38 PM
The 3d segment is yawn inducing to be honest.

I really liked the sidescrolling part though

I thought the sidescrolling part looked just as weak compared to other platformers. Honestly, it reminded me of Toy Story on the SNES. That really loose and floatly jank to it.

But in one of the videos they talk about how even those levels have two paths so you can breeze right through them to get to the next adventure bit, or do a harder, more platformer section to get more collectibles. All that platforming stuff doesn't sound too good and they mention a lot of collectibles. But what I think sounds interesting has little to do with the actual platforming and as long as they don't put too much focus on it, I'll be content. To make another comparison to Psychonauts, the thing people complain about in that game is the meat circus level that is all about platforming and that wasn't the appeal of that game.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 18, 2010, 02:19:41 PM: Oh, I think they cut that bit from Kingdom Hearts
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: brawndolicious on June 18, 2010, 02:51:24 PM: I like how it's painfully obvious how much the game relies on exploration and keeping it fun to experiment with the "painting", and yet everybody wants to dismiss the 3D levels after seeing a five minute demo. The actual ideas sound good to me and Specter seems like he has too much enthusiasm/pride to half-ass it.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: brawndolicious on June 18, 2010, 03:56:37 PM: that level in manabyte's video did seem to be pretty boring and bland, but the one that specter demoed during the conference actually looked pretty decent. I think I remember him saying that the game world gradually get prettier as you do more faggy disney stuff so those two demos could be from different points in the game.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Damian79 on June 18, 2010, 08:45:27 PM: Or it could be because of the dimly lit offscreen camera.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: naff on June 18, 2010, 10:55:39 PM: Quote from: Linkzg on June 18, 2010, 01:48:55 PM
Quote from: Purple Filth on June 18, 2010, 01:30:38 PM
The 3d segment is yawn inducing to be honest.

I really liked the sidescrolling part though

I thought the sidescrolling part looked just as weak compared to other platformers. Honestly, it reminded me of Toy Story on the SNES. That really loose and floatly jank to it.

iirc the PSX mickey sidescroller had the same 'floaty jank' similar to the 'floaty jank' of Rayman too, both good and great platformers. Floaty jumpin aint bad, not every platformer needs to be Megaman or Mario like.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: naff on June 19, 2010, 01:19:28 AM: Well yeah, it's pretty much the same level right? Wonder if they'll have any other levels from Mickeys Wild Adventure (what it was called here) in the game.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2010, 01:23:46 AM: Quote from: chronovore on June 18, 2010, 12:56:32 PM
Yeah, asshole cartoon characters are more fun than nice ones. No-one likes Porky Pig. He's nice. Everyone loves Bugs Bunny; he's a complete jerk.

I dunno. Porky certainly had some highlights, usually with Daffy.

[youtube=560,345]J51g6JiY3So[/youtube]
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: chronovore on June 20, 2010, 11:26:52 AM: Are you disagreeing with my statement generally, or just providing the exceptions which prove the rule?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 20, 2010, 11:54:35 AM: While we're at it, might I point out that Carl Barks's and Don Rosa's duck stories have never been done justice?

Here is my favorite duck story of all time. This would have been the ultimate motherfucking DuckTales episode, even if you swapped out Donald with Launchpad http://www.comicorama.com/?p=32 (http://www.comicorama.com/?p=32)

(http://kitscomics.com/rosa/1.JPG)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2010, 07:02:44 PM: Quote from: chronovore on June 20, 2010, 11:26:52 AM
Are you disagreeing with my statement generally, or just providing the exceptions which prove the rule?

just pointing out that porky could be great sometimes
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Third on June 21, 2010, 06:08:36 AM: Quote from: ManaByte on June 17, 2010, 09:42:27 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAyARvxtSeY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Looks really bad. And the platforming looks like a mess. Should've been a 2D game, or a PS360 game.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Damian79 on June 21, 2010, 06:54:36 AM: How on earth would the platforming be improved on the ps360?
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Third on June 21, 2010, 07:39:34 AM: Quote from: Damian79 on June 21, 2010, 06:54:36 AM
How on earth would the platforming be improved on the ps360?

Well, the platforming would look better. And nog waggle shit.
But I'm not only talking about the platforming. The whole game looks dull and boring on the Wii. The devs could do better with Ps360 hardware.
And yes, graphics are important.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Damian79 on June 21, 2010, 08:07:23 AM: Quote from: Third on June 21, 2010, 07:39:34 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on June 21, 2010, 06:54:36 AM
How on earth would the platforming be improved on the ps360?

Well, the platforming would look better. And nog waggle shit.
But I'm not only talking about the platforming. The whole game looks dull and boring on the Wii. The devs could do better with Ps360 hardware.
And yes, graphics are important.

The dull and boring is a design choice however, you are speaking as if birghter environments cost more horsepower which clearly it doesnt going by the Super Mario Galaxy games, heck you can even tell by the original Super Mario 64. And i dont think that the platforming would look better either.

Quote from: Ruzbeh on June 21, 2010, 07:58:48 AM
Quote from: Damian79 on June 21, 2010, 06:54:36 AM
How on earth would the platforming be improved on the ps360?

Ignore him. Years of exposure to dangerous levels of sfaggotry has deteriorated his brain.

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Third on June 21, 2010, 08:17:09 AM: The SMG games consist out of tiny levels surrounded by a lot of empty space. It's not a miracle that both SMG games look that good.
The Wii was already b.c. technology during its release. And its dated tech is definitely holding a lot of developers back.

Epic Mickey on Ps360 would be really Epic. On Wii it's just another failed 3rd party game. Sorry.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Damian79 on June 21, 2010, 08:49:29 AM: So what about Mario 64? SMS even. Pretty colours dont consume more horsepower.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Third on June 21, 2010, 10:38:33 AM: What are you talking about, ntard? When I said that the game looked dull and boring, I didn't mean that it didn't have any colors.
Most current gen games (PS360 games) are brownish but still are entertaining and better than 99.99% of the Wii games.

More colors =! more fun or better graphics? That maybe works for your nintendo brain. Remember the art designs? Ps360 could approach that atmosphere. The Wii just can't. lol. And that's a shame. The gameplay would probably be the same on the PS360, but the massively improved graphics would add a whole new dimension to the game.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Damian79 on June 21, 2010, 11:36:06 AM: Most? There are NO games this gen worth mentioning at all well with the exception of SMT: Strange journey.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 21, 2010, 04:27:22 PM: smh
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: brawndolicious on June 21, 2010, 04:42:37 PM: Quote from: Third on June 21, 2010, 10:38:33 AM
What are you talking about, ntard? When I said that the game looked dull and boring, I didn't mean that it didn't have any colors.
Most current gen games (PS360 games) are brownish but still are entertaining and better than 99.99% of the Wii games.
More colors =! more fun or better graphics? That maybe works for your nintendo brain. Remember the art designs? Ps360 could approach that atmosphere. The Wii just can't. lol. And that's a shame. The gameplay would probably be the same on the PS360, but the massively improved graphics would add a whole new dimension to the game.
they explained during the presentation that you gradually make the world more lively and interesting as you go through the game.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 21, 2010, 10:26:09 PM: Physics, controls, interface, are better on HD systems.
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 21, 2010, 10:45:11 PM: ::)
Title: Re: Epic Mickey
Post by: Trent Dole on June 22, 2010, 01:07:06 PM: Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 21, 2010, 10:26:09 PM
Physics, controls, interface, are better on HD systems.
:miyamoto