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Title: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2010, 08:07:14 AM
http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_mafia_2_e3_complete_demo-16102_en.html (http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_mafia_2_e3_complete_demo-16102_en.html)

Yeah it's PS3 version,tearing,not so hot framerate,shitty texture filtering,etc

But there is one far more important thing

It just feels so...meh

 :-\

Some crappy screenshot

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2dm6o0y.jpg)
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: maxy on June 18, 2010, 08:40:58 AM
Game is also 15 hours long according to developers...so about 10 hours in reality
No multi also


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Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Brehvolution on June 18, 2010, 09:25:49 AM
This game had so much going for it. :fbm
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Diunx on June 18, 2010, 09:46:51 AM
Mafia wasn't a PC exclusive and it was still awesome Borys, I still have faith in this game.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 19, 2010, 10:33:09 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKT1vpyfZPs[/youtube]
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: cool breeze on June 19, 2010, 11:47:39 AM
Game is also 15 hours long according to developers...so about 10 hours in reality
No multi also


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have they talked about any other modes? the first game was around that same length but after you finished it unlocked free ride extreme.  With all the things about car customization and whatnot, I'd expect there to be more.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 19, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
I'm completely fine with no multi. I'm actually glad. Gives them more focus on the single player. Already played one great open world title this year with RDR. I'm really hoping this is the second.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: maxy on June 19, 2010, 12:19:09 PM
Game is also 15 hours long according to developers...so about 10 hours in reality
No multi also


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have they talked about any other modes? the first game was around that same length but after you finished it unlocked free ride extreme.  With all the things about car customization and whatnot, I'd expect there to be more.

I don't know...they seem to be heavy focused on story,not many details are known

Also,not sure if people here know,but demo will be released 2-3 weeks before launch.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: pilonv1 on June 19, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
I don't see where you could fit multiplayer in Mafia. I'm happy with it being single player only.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
yeah, no multi is fine with me, and an estimate of 15 hours usually means I'll be playing it for 20, so as long as the storyline is tolerable and the controls aren't jackfucked all to hell i'm on board
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 12:40:55 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8meDboCuMQI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: maxy on July 22, 2010, 08:01:17 AM
From CVG
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The Mafia II demo will be available from August 10, according to a new print advert for the game.

The ad appears in the latest issue of trade mag MCV, proudly providing the firm date for the Xbox Live and PSN trial.

Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 22, 2010, 07:31:57 PM
Mafia is the greatest game ever, this game will be even more amazing. Plus PS3 exclusive content, whats not to love?

Great games, and fucking over xbots all at the same time.

No power greater than X.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 23, 2010, 09:35:38 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqYB5CBicMA[/youtube]
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Third on July 23, 2010, 10:35:56 AM
The GTA4 Episodes were the last good sandbox games. It's time for a good sandbox game. I hope this one can near GTA4's excellence.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: maxy on July 30, 2010, 01:23:22 PM
First review,from PC Zone

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The mag gives the Mafia title 80% in its new October (yes, bloody October) issue - which is with subscribers now.

The game's major drawback, says Zone, is that it's an 'extremely linear driver and shooter'.

However, if you can get over that rather restrictive fact, there's plenty to enjoy for those nostalgic for the Cosa Nostra's days of US dominance.

The mag says that the dialogue is 'fine, and extremely well acted', adding that driving, 'as you'd expect from the former Illusion Software [2K Czech], is great'.

It continues: 'The collection of cars is great too - all timely models that damage so gently that you'll try to take care of them.'

All aspects of the game are covered in Zone's spectacular seven-page review - with more praise coming for the game's weapons and action sequences, despite a slightly 'cold' storyline.

It adds: 'Mafia II is 10 hours of driving, story and extremely competent gun action. Running at top specs, it looks stunning, and if there was a soundtrack album, I'd buy myself a copy.'

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257937 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257937)

Sounds decent.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: maxy on July 31, 2010, 09:55:18 AM
Some gaf nerd played it

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I got to play the Mafia 2 PS3 Demo a few days ago at a 'premiere' type event and came away underwhelmed. Graphically the game seemed to have no anti-aliasing whatsoever so it was jaggy central; now I loved inFamous despite it also having no AA, but the stylised comic book world vs real world really makes a difference there in terms of the jaggies. The other major compaint is the shooting controls, they felt very clunky and more in line with what was the norm on the PS2 rather than the PS3. After games like Uncharted 2 and RDR they felt backward. I'm not a regular at these premiere type things so maybe these were down to some TV setup issues (maybe gaming mode wasn't enabled on the TV and the sharpness may have been maxed out or something) but when the demo is publicly released in a fortnight I really hope that it looks and controls a lot better on a properly setup TV...

Some unusual gameplay choices too. You can't swim at all, and by that I don't mean you drown: instead there's actually an invisible barrier that stops you from going into the water. And if you drive a car into the water the screen goes black, and then you suddenly respawn at the water's edge minus car. Also if you roll a convertible you die instantly :(

Textures were a mixed bag, the grass texture used on the lawns looks awful, but some of the texturing at the waters edge was brilliant. Animation was pretty good too, I did like the way you kind of feel your way with the back of your free hand when shuffling along in cover. I only got to use the MG42, M1911 and shotgun in the demo (although there is a Thompson in there as well) but they all felt pretty good. I played without any sound so can't comment on sound effects or voice acting. You do have the ability to change clothes at your house too, I don't think I saw that shown or mentioned yet. Car damage was fairly simple in comparison to the GTA games; maybe it's due to the cars being used, but external damage is mostly cosmetic with not much model deformation other than flying bonnets/hoods. When the engine starts smoking and eventually dies you have an on-the-fly repair button press option although I never got a chance to use it.


RDR :bow2



Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 31, 2010, 10:24:37 AM
meh. He sounds like an idiot as he spends most of his time talking about graphical shit.

We'll see when the demo hits.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: demi on July 31, 2010, 12:28:06 PM
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I got to play the Mafia 2 PS3 Demo

stopped reading here
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: maxy on July 31, 2010, 01:16:37 PM
hey,Turok dev is working on the PS3 version,he is a gaf mod too
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: maxy on August 01, 2010, 12:17:00 PM
OXM review is out...not particularly good or bad score(7/10)

pros-
detailed world
nice and varied
excellent sound track

cons-
disappointing action
boring characters

Some quotes
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"which isn't to say the script is completely terrible, it will hold your attention - it just won't give anything back. its exactly the same with the driving and shooting. for all the hundreds of man hours that have gone into making Empire city, mafia's 2 missions feel a little drab. You're not quite driving the cars as much as dragging them through the city...and while the 3rd person based cover based shooting is perfectly satisfying, 95 percent of enemies will spawn run to a certain piece of cover and stay in the same position just popping up and down forever like a target at a funfair."

''nobody in mafia2, not vito, nor his friends, nor the rest of the extended cosa nostra, is somebody you'd want to spend any amount of time with. good mafia movies (not to mention the mafia game that spawned this one) understand the importance of making their mafiosos entertaining and fundamentally warm people"



http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/942955-mafia-ii/55817277 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/942955-mafia-ii/55817277)

Sounds ok,there is not much to play in August anyway
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 01, 2010, 06:29:17 PM
I'll play it since August is kind of dead. I liked the storytelling in the first mafia game but mechanically it was just average. Seems like they struggled with that aspect in the sequel. Although honestly I find nearly all open world games to have relatively crude control mechanics.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: pilonv1 on August 01, 2010, 07:59:11 PM
I wouldn't trust most reviews for Mafia, it's as if reviewers are expecting a completely different game.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 02, 2010, 07:36:48 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMib1xnz6-Q[/youtube]
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEL2lIw14fg&hd=1[/youtube]
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: chronovore on August 03, 2010, 12:24:30 AM
Not particularly hopeful, but still wanting it to not suck.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: dark1x on August 03, 2010, 08:44:06 AM
I'll play it since August is kind of dead. I liked the storytelling in the first mafia game but mechanically it was just average. Seems like they struggled with that aspect in the sequel. Although honestly I find nearly all open world games to have relatively crude control mechanics.
I don't think it's fair to judge the mechanics of this new game using the original as a basis.  When the original Mafia was released, it's mechanics were actually quite good.  It played much better than games like Grand Theft Auto 3, which were popular at the time, and came close to matching dedicated PC shooters.  It has been quite a while since the game hit shelves, however.  Media of the second game demonstrates that the sequel incorporates most of the modern day shooter mechanics.

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'nobody in mafia2, not vito, nor his friends, nor the rest of the extended cosa nostra, is somebody you'd want to spend any amount of time with. good mafia movies (not to mention the mafia game that spawned this one) understand the importance of making their mafiosos entertaining and fundamentally warm people
This is perhaps the most disappointed aspect of the review for me.  They really nailed this in the original game.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: archie4208 on August 10, 2010, 04:31:50 AM
There is a demo on Steam.  It looks gorgeous but the gameplay is unspectacular.
Title: Re: Mafia II
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 09:00:08 AM
Demo is on 360 as well
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: maxy on August 10, 2010, 09:42:10 AM
aaaand?

how is it?
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 09:45:04 AM
I picked up a PlayBoy magazine within the first 2 minutes and saw some tits stare right back at me. Already better than GTA4.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 10:02:32 AM
This game is so better than GTA4. Thumbs up.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 10:54:10 AM
Played it. It's about a 15-20 minute demo.

I liked the story like in the first one. Seems like good quality voice acting and cutscenes which is actually important for me in open world games. I also like the playboy centerfold collectibles. Perfect collectible that actually serves a point (titillation) rather than useless shit like a coffee thermos. Its amazing how many games in this day and age still get that wrong.

The controls are decent. Driving feels slow at least in the vehicles presented in to the demo but I suppose its era appropriate. (On second thought maybe its the acceleration that is just slow) The gun controls are standard. They aren't great but they are functional and get the job done. Feels like a poor man's gears but competent. You take damage quickly. It doesn't take a lot to kill you.

The frame rate is highly variable. Worse than something like RDR. Lots of screen tearing. The aliasing is some of the worst I've seen in a long time on a console game. The medium and far distance often turns into a digital mush. Looking into the mirror in your apartment was hilarious because of this. It was like a fun house mirror.

Seems enjoyable. I'm eager to play it (mainly for the story) despite the technical shortcomings on the console versions.   
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 11:36:41 AM
The mafia atmosphere is nailed. I think it is great. Definitely gonna raep this for the points.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 11:56:24 AM
The mafia atmosphere is nailed. I think it is great. Definitely gonna raep this for the points.

The atmosphere is definitely good. I was expecting that though. The first game was very good in that area also.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: cool breeze on August 10, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
I thought the demo was really good.  I will agree that the cover system isn't very good.  You can't even pull back on the analog stick to detach, but at least you can go around corners by pressing X.  The reticule being towards the top of the screen is annoying for me since most games have it at the center or bottom (like Halo); I feel like I'm not seeing enough because of it. Though, The act of shooting guns feels great.  The shotgun blowing off bits of wall while also taking down a guy in one shot.  I thought driving felt great on both normal and simulation.  Actually, the punching combat is really good; I'm surprised considering how little you get into fist fights in these games. 

My problem with the shooting is more that it just feels like other games.  They got rid of a lot of the more 'realistic' parts from the first game.  Things like reloading makes you lose the rest of your clip, only being able to carry one large weapon, and enemies that also have a finite amount of ammo (this might still be in the game and I haven't noticed it).  I don't think others would agree.

oh, and the wanted system is so good.  First, you can just bribe cops for small crimes if you have the money, so you don't get into a big scuffle because of a minor incident.  The way it seems to work is based on cops seeing you, and that fills up a bar.  It's not like a stupid giant circle that makes the entire area a danger zone.  At one point I just ran behind some houses and chilled out a while; after that they were still looking for me based on my clothing, which you could change at your house or another location.  If they were chasing you while you were in a car, they start looking for your car, so you can just get out and switch cars and they'll lose it.  It's awesome that it isn't just driving really fast to leave a circle.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 12:05:07 PM
I will agree that the cover system isn't very good.  You can't even pull back on the analog stick to detach,

I knew there was something bugging me about it and until you mentioned that I didn't realize that was it. I also had a hard time running through the environment and accidentally hitting A and sticking to cover in the environment when I was just trying to move about. Maybe there is an alternate config or something.

The wanted system sounds interesting. I don't really like the system in nearly all of the other open world games.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: cool breeze on August 10, 2010, 12:52:23 PM
Instead of just changing cars, I noticed that you can take you car to the mechanic to get it painted or you can just change the license plate (they let you customize what it says).  You can also tune up your car and get better tires.  Another neat thing is that you can open the drunk and hood of your car, and I hope it is like the first Mafia where you can store weapons in your car too.

About the wanted system, I noticed that there is a level before them arresting you/taking a bribe where they just give you a warning.  If you get into a fist fight they just tell you to break it up.

Also, there is another playboy magazine in the southern clothing shop.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 12:54:53 PM
Do you get to see any vag in the playboy pickups or is it just sideboob?
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 10, 2010, 02:55:13 PM
Very good demo.

Heard the console versions are sub-HD, pathetic.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 02:58:24 PM
Very good demo.

Heard the console versions are sub-HD, pathetic.

Yep. They look like a Wii game.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 03:01:37 PM
Huh? A wii game? Get real... leagues above GTA4 easily.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 03:03:53 PM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate which is rather weak no matter which way you cut it. Sub hd resolutions I could give a shit about. Although normally when that compromise is made its made in the service of frame rate or anti-aliasing neither of which Mafia 2 seems to benefit much from on the console side.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 10, 2010, 03:05:23 PM
Very good demo.

Heard the console versions are sub-HD, pathetic.

Yep. They look like a Wii game.

I wonder where the development time and resources went for the console versions.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 03:05:40 PM
GTA4 is the standard at which open world games go to shit. Like, you have to royally fuck up to reach GTA4.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 03:07:09 PM
GTA4 is the standard at which open world games go to shit. Like, you have to royally fuck up to reach GTA4.
lol you get keep talking about GTA 4. I'll stick to mafia 2.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 03:08:44 PM
I'll stick to Mafia II as well.

Did you notice that your character doesn't lean while walking? Did you notice you didn't have to go on a date with your friends? Did you notice the cover actually works? The aiming works? 8)
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 10, 2010, 03:08:52 PM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000)

Thank me later.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 10, 2010, 03:10:17 PM
If it weren't for Crackdown 2, GTAIV would be the worst open-world game of this generation.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 03:11:01 PM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000)

Thank me later.

As I said sub hd resolution never bothers me. Only bothers graphic nerds. A tribe I happily avoid or mock.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 10, 2010, 03:12:47 PM
If it weren't for Crackdown 2, GTAIV would be the worst open-world game of this generation.

Nailed it. GTA4 is trash.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: cool breeze on August 10, 2010, 03:36:51 PM
After I beat up this one guy, he said "it's because I'm black!"  :'(

I just wanted him to get out of the store!
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 03:39:14 PM
After I beat up this one guy, he said "it's because I'm black!"  :'(

I just wanted him to get out of the store!
:lol

Yeah I wish open world games had something where when you are in a crowd you could just go by people rather than crashing into them like your a bat out of hell. Ruins my immersion sometimes. Kind of like AC 2 I guess. 
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Himu on August 10, 2010, 03:43:47 PM
this demo is on psn ?
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 10, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000)

Thank me later.

As I said sub hd resolution never bothers me. Only bothers graphic nerds. A tribe I happily avoid or mock.

"Graphics nerds", I like that excuse.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 04:03:48 PM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000)

Thank me later.

As I said sub hd resolution never bothers me. Only bothers graphic nerds. A tribe I happily avoid or mock.

"Graphics nerds", I like that excuse.

I have a PC more than capable of playing all these games at hd resolutions. I know your puny brain can't comprehend this but not all of us give a shit about nerd shit like you do or agenda post constantly. 
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Eel O'Brian on August 10, 2010, 05:15:10 PM
pre-ordered this on ps3 for the extra dlc arcade missions, looks like a lot of fun

other than fallout: new vegas this might wrap up 2010 for me, time to hit that backlog
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 10, 2010, 05:57:51 PM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000)

Thank me later.

As I said sub hd resolution never bothers me. Only bothers graphic nerds. A tribe I happily avoid or mock.

"Graphics nerds", I like that excuse.

I have a PC more than capable of playing all these games at hd resolutions. I know your puny brain can't comprehend this but not all of us give a shit about nerd shit like you do or agenda post constantly. 

Good, so you know the advantages of an HD resolution.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 10, 2010, 06:06:48 PM
Good, so you know the advantages of an HD resolution.

I know you have very little constructive to add to any conversation actually involving a videogame so I'll ignore you for a bit until you actually make a post worth a damn.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 10, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
Good, so you know the advantages of an HD resolution.

I know you have very little constructive to add to any conversation actually involving a videogame so I'll ignore you for a bit until you actually make a post worth a damn.

Sure, you do that.

I mean you're not a graphics nerd so you don't care about resolution anyway so there's simply no discussion to be had.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: pilonv1 on August 11, 2010, 02:57:32 AM
(http://www.abload.de/img/pooebi6.gif)

:rofl
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: maxy on August 11, 2010, 07:10:24 AM


(http://i36.tinypic.com/ftil3p.jpg)
(http://i33.tinypic.com/2vhtc75.jpg)
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2d2bvch.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/ibidk6.jpg)
Poor ps3 cows






On more serious note,not sure why are some PC nerds are jumping around...being better than 5+ years old consoles is not some great achievement.Anyway,didn't play the demo,will play full game,watched few videos aaand...
I want bullet time,dead eye,etc system in GTA like games,in addition to normal third person cover system.Upgradable of course,by shooting people and mission progression.

Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: archie4208 on August 11, 2010, 07:24:40 AM
(http://www.abload.de/img/pooebi6.gif)

:rofl

Consoles are killing gaming. :'(
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on August 11, 2010, 08:09:32 AM
boring demo. full game better be more than just generic driving and shooting or i won't even bother downloading it.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Brehvolution on August 11, 2010, 09:21:05 AM
Yep. Unimpressed and the driving is worse than GTA4.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: cool breeze on August 11, 2010, 09:23:10 AM
On more serious note,not sure why are some PC nerds are jumping around...being better than 5+ years old consoles is not some great achievement.Anyway,didn't play the demo,will play full game,watched few videos aaand...
I want bullet time,dead eye,etc system in GTA like games,in addition to normal third person cover system.Upgradable of course,by shooting people and mission progression.




It looks fine-ish on consoles judging from screenshots.  I honestly don't get the importance of that mirror gif other than finding something that looks really ugly; I don't know how often you'll be worrying about that stuff.  I think it was Max Payne 2 that also had garbage mirrors on the xbox.  Unless the game is fundamentally broken in some way, I don't understand the big problem here.  And the PC version praise has less to do with it better than consoles and more about how well it runs on older/weaker hardware.  Pretty much every game looks and runs loads better on PC but they aren't brought up that much.  It's usually games like this and Just Cause 2 that are well optimized and all that.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 11, 2010, 09:58:20 AM
Yep. Unimpressed and the driving is worse than GTA4.

You just don't get it. This isn't a GTA or a SA game. This is a simulator like Flight Sim.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 11, 2010, 09:59:42 AM
Yep. Unimpressed and the driving is worse than GTA4.

You can modify cars, you know this right?
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Stoney Mason on August 11, 2010, 10:11:01 AM
The cars kind of handle in a "simmy" manner. Which is fine for me since I like that and I liked the handling in GTA 4 to pick a random example. But the cars certainly don't handle like Saints Row or anything if that is what somebody is looking for.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: cool breeze on August 11, 2010, 10:17:20 AM
[youtube=560,345]YpRkT9JxdnE[/youtube]
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Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 11, 2010, 10:20:20 AM
(http://www.abload.de/img/pooebi6.gif)

:rofl

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Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 11, 2010, 10:23:30 AM
Yep. Unimpressed and the driving is worse than GTA4.

You must be thinking of GTA3.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 11, 2010, 10:40:49 AM
ha ha ha ps3 has no grass. didnt bishopTL work on this one? ha ha ha
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Brehvolution on August 11, 2010, 10:52:29 AM
Yep. Unimpressed and the driving is worse than GTA4.

You can modify cars, you know this right?

I played on Steam but no, I didn't know. I played enough to either rent or pass.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 11, 2010, 11:29:48 AM
Huh? He didnt work on Joyride...
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: demi on August 11, 2010, 11:40:14 AM
I see, ok then it is his fault.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on August 11, 2010, 01:41:35 PM
Man, I'm so looking forward to playing the hell outta dis game here....

in about a couple of years when I get a new PC.  Just like Mafia 1, the PC version is going to waaaaaaay outclass the console revs.  The PS3 has a janky framerate and just doesn't feel optimized.  The world appears to be ludicriously detailed though, so I'm in for that.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 11, 2010, 01:46:42 PM
Man, I'm so looking forward to playing the hell outta dis game here....

in about a couple of years when I get a new PC.  Just like Mafia 1, the PC version is going to waaaaaaay outclass the console revs.  The PS3 has a janky framerate and just doesn't feel optimized.  The world appears to be ludicriously detailed though, so I'm in for that.

What are your current specs? 'cause you don't need a monster rig to run this game.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Third on August 11, 2010, 02:01:03 PM
Tried the demo. GTA4 is better.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: dark1x on August 11, 2010, 02:27:06 PM
I find it slightly odd that everyone is railing on the mirror thing.  Is that really a big deal?  It's still lower resolution on the PC, just not that low.

That's hardly the problem with the console versions of this game at all.  It's the fact that it runs like dogshit and looks significantly worse as well.  The console ports are terrible all around.  Same situation with the original Mafia.  These guys don't know consoles.

Can't wait for this game, though.  Demo was fantastic!  Runs perfectly on my PC as well.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: pilonv1 on August 11, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
Cars from the 1950s handle like shit? No kidding
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: dark1x on August 11, 2010, 10:50:12 PM
The 360 demo was alright. Probably the best thing was how vibrant the game is. The art style is great and is a joy to look at, assuming you don't look off into the distance. Anything beyond like ten feet looks like blurry shit, much like GTA4 on PS3. The game almost seems over ambitious on consoles but I think they could have done marginally better.
The actual color scheme reminds me a lot of Half-Life 2, to be honest.  Especially when looking out over the water.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/dark1x/half-life-2-hovercraft-500x375.jpg)
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/dark1x/mafia22010-08-1010-20-86mf.png)
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on August 12, 2010, 03:53:35 AM
does Mafia II have the longest development cycle of any game released so far this gen?  I know Alan Wake was in the cooker for infinity and a half, but I don't know of any other project the studio has tackled since, well, Mafia 1.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: chronovore on August 13, 2010, 01:37:33 AM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000)

Thank me later.

As I said sub hd resolution never bothers me. Only bothers graphic nerds. A tribe I happily avoid or mock.

"Graphics nerds", I like that excuse.

I have a PC more than capable of playing all these games at hd resolutions. I know your puny brain can't comprehend this but not all of us give a shit about nerd shit like you do or agenda post constantly. 

st0wned!

TripleA, what part of "Graphics does not equal gameplay" are you having a hard time fathoming? At what point does "3-to-4 year-old standardized hardware is going to be inherently inferior to current gaming PCs" come as a surprise? Why are you surprised that it's nerdy to arbitrarily worry about graphics?

Here's the real question for me though: "Why the hell did I ever take you off Ignore?"
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Himu on August 13, 2010, 03:01:12 AM
Played the pc demo.

Blech.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Himu on August 13, 2010, 03:02:49 AM
Yep. Unimpressed and the driving is worse than GTA4.

You just don't get it. This isn't a GTA or a SA game. This is a simulator like Flight Sim.

I'll stick with Shenmue, thanks. Speaking of which I need to plan my annual Shenmue replay.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: TripleA on August 13, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000)

Thank me later.

As I said sub hd resolution never bothers me. Only bothers graphic nerds. A tribe I happily avoid or mock.

"Graphics nerds", I like that excuse.

I have a PC more than capable of playing all these games at hd resolutions. I know your puny brain can't comprehend this but not all of us give a shit about nerd shit like you do or agenda post constantly. 

*a plate of nonsense*

I feel honored to be on your ignore list.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2010, 06:41:36 PM
Actually I was mocking Triple A but then I don't have the same hard on against GTA 4 that you did. Technically its a bit of a mess on the consoles either way not that I overly care outside of the frame rate.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV-Video/Televisions/abcat0101000.c?id=abcat0101000)

Thank me later.

As I said sub hd resolution never bothers me. Only bothers graphic nerds. A tribe I happily avoid or mock.

"Graphics nerds", I like that excuse.

I have a PC more than capable of playing all these games at hd resolutions. I know your puny brain can't comprehend this but not all of us give a shit about nerd shit like you do or agenda post constantly. 

*a plate of nonsense*

I feel honored to be on your ignore list.

Welcome back to it!
*PLONK*
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: pilonv1 on August 15, 2010, 07:57:08 PM
I can't believe only 6 people are ignoring him.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: chronovore on August 15, 2010, 10:19:25 PM
I thought the game looked pretty cool but I'm not interested in a Mafia story. PASS.
Still feeling bit by the stupid-ass mafia crap from GTA IV?
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: chronovore on August 16, 2010, 08:00:21 AM
Marketplace is not letting me grab this; "Cannot retrieve data" error on the console marketplace, page-load error on the web-based one.  :maf
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: chronovore on August 16, 2010, 11:21:05 AM
RDR is filling that need so well, I'm not playing much of the new games I bought on vaykay.  :-\

I don't even know if I'd play this Mafia II demo if it worked for me. I just am pissed at XBL being flaky, and hoping it's not an erroneous message caused by IP region lockout.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: maxy on August 17, 2010, 01:41:40 AM
I played the ps3 demo :lol

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Hey guys,

When designing Mafia II, we optimized for each of the three different systems the game would run on to make sure the core experience was the best it could be. Because of this, there are some differences from one platform to the next. In terms of the PS3 version, I wanted to clarify a couple points you have been asking about: There will not be highly detailed grass or large pools of blood, the cloth movement is less noticeable than, for example, the PC version, and the visual fidelity in the demo is generally representative of what you’ll see in the full game.

Our aim is to make a cohesive and immersive experience and optimize the game for each platform so that it could run its best. And while there are some differences between each version, I’m sure you’ll find that the core gameplay and the heart of Mafia II remains no matter whether you play on PS3, 360, or PC.

Thanks for your patience while I checked with the dev team on the specific issues you were asking about, and I hope you see you in Empire Bay next week.

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Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: drew on August 17, 2010, 01:58:52 AM
ey dumi, if you think this is better than gta4 then youd have loved rdr, shoulda coulda woulda, tisc tisc
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 17, 2010, 03:24:45 AM
Their tech and world are absolutely fucking bananas. The game design is  :-\
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: chronovore on August 17, 2010, 08:50:57 AM
That's been true for many E. Euro devs.
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 17, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
For the first five minutes, I was like "OH MY GOD. This world is totally captivating and amazing and it's like stepping back into one of Grandpa's fever dreams or something, I NEED to buy this game." Then the mission started and I was like "Um never mind"
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on August 17, 2010, 11:47:10 AM
If you play this on a console you just don't "get it". This isn't a game for you console fucktards, this is a true PC fans game. If you play this on a console you should be labelled a idiot "The Worst Gamer Ever".
Title: Re: Mafia II (Demo Released)
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 17, 2010, 11:48:54 AM
HAY DOOD

(Clicks Ignore button) :punch