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Title: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2010, 12:55:33 PM
My guts says "stay far away", but the trailers for it actually look kind of promising. Have I been duped once again by the Hollywood hype machine?  :-\
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 29, 2010, 12:55:48 PM
No
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2010, 12:57:41 PM
:bow Robert Rodriguez :bow2

is not writing or directing. Those duties are handled by Nimrod Antal and two writers who have never actually written anything before.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 29, 2010, 12:59:29 PM

 Nimrod

lol
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Mupepe on June 29, 2010, 01:03:34 PM
Because he's Adrian Brody and he can't really be cast in many types of movies.
I didn't think he'd really fit into this.  I mean, look at him. 

Instinct tells me it will be shit but I still have hope.  The trailer was pretty fucking awesome IMO.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Mupepe on June 29, 2010, 01:06:14 PM
Because he's Adrian Brody and he can't really be cast in many types of movies.
I didn't think he'd really fit into this.  I mean, look at him. 

Instinct tells me it will be shit but I still have hope.  The trailer was pretty fucking awesome IMO.

Well, before Pulp Fiction who could have seen Travolta as that character?

You never know, but I do agree with you.
Good point about Travolta, but that's the exception not the rule I'm afraid.

I think I just hate Brody since Splice.  Fuck that movie was garbage.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Mupepe on June 29, 2010, 01:07:42 PM
Oh man Adrien Brody is nuts:

Quote
I approached this with the kind of level of focus I would approach any of the roles that I've been given an opportunity to play... I think my intention, and the intention of hiring me to play Royce, was to delve into the kind of flawed tragic hero and not this kind of typical ... overtly physically imposing character... I did put on a substantial amount of muscle mass for the role, and the physical training was a big part of building to that character, [but it was also important] to prepare psychologically. We shot in Hawaii, and we shot in thousands of acres of tropical rainforest, and I had gotten permission from the owners of the estate to stay in the property... I didn't stay in a hotel... [Instead,] I isolated myself... My nightly ritual was poring over survival manuals and military and paramilitary training books. I was reading Sun Tzu. I was studying meditation. I was on a very strict diet. I wasn't drinking. I wasn't eating sugar. I wasn't having sex. I had to kind of go there, for me, because this was a tremendous opportunity.

http://io9.com/5492607/adrien-brody-gained-25-pounds-gave-up-sex-for-predators
Gained 25 pounds?  From the trailer he still looks like he's built like an 11 year old girl.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: BlueTsunami on June 29, 2010, 01:17:13 PM
His routine sounds more like drew's, actually.

Plus drew has an arsenal of "just below the legal limit" sized knives
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Smooth Groove on June 29, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
My chest was that big when I wasn't much more than 11 years old.  :smug
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Mupepe on June 29, 2010, 01:20:42 PM
Gained 25 pounds?  From the trailer he still looks like he's built like an 11 year old girl.

I don't know about that:

(http://www.thevine.com.au/resources/imgdetail/091009033753_adrien-brody-predator.jpg)

(http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/images/buffbrody.jpg)
oh my.  I guess I'll be seeing it then.  :teehee
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Diunx on June 29, 2010, 01:41:51 PM
I didn't like the trailer and the cast is a fucking joke compared to the original, not seen this even if it is R rated.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Mupepe on June 29, 2010, 01:43:07 PM
AAAH WHY AM I ARGUING ABOUT THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE NEW PREDATOR MOVIE THAT I HAVENT SEEN AND WILL PROBABLY SUCK  :yuck
:lol :lol

Nah, I get what you're saying but it's a role he's trying to fill in the wake of Ahnuld.  Just doesn't fit IMO.  Unless they're just trying to make it more realistic.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2010, 01:43:15 PM
-Set in a jungle
-A band of highly-trained killers who will most likely get slaughtered
-Lots of heavy weapons
-R rating

Of course, it could still be bad, but they've at least got some things right.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 29, 2010, 01:53:44 PM
Brody makes up for any deficiency in body mass with his nose
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2010, 02:02:15 PM
His nose is classified as a weapon of mass destruction by the US government.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: muckhole on June 29, 2010, 03:39:58 PM
Gained 25 pounds?  From the trailer he still looks like he's built like an 11 year old girl.

I don't know about that:



I'll spoiler this leaked pic to be safe as I don't know it's context but yeah, quite a difference. He's not massive by any means, but it's a far cry from what he was.


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Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Mupepe on June 29, 2010, 03:46:58 PM
ah holy shit.  point taken
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 29, 2010, 04:52:16 PM
More like Duderien Brody.  :gun
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Bulleta©™® on June 29, 2010, 06:44:36 PM
After AVP...I'd stay away.  Unless AVP2 was good.  Dunno.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 29, 2010, 06:55:54 PM
After AVP...I'd stay away.  Unless AVP2 was good.  Dunno.

By all accounts, AVP2 is actually WORSE.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 29, 2010, 06:56:20 PM
The new Predator: SE Blu-Ray is $15 at Best Buy and comes with a free Predators movie ticket. Sounds like a win-win situation, because if Predators sucks, you can rush home and cleanse your pallet with Predator.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: lordoftherink on June 29, 2010, 07:01:42 PM
except the new predator blu-ray is DNRed to shit
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 29, 2010, 07:06:28 PM
Blah, that sucks, I hadn't read any reviews yet.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Fresh Prince on June 29, 2010, 07:11:09 PM
Brody is playing some sort of Special Forces type guy, right?  

He's not that much smaller than Bear Grylls, who's ex-SAS.  

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WLy8OThDBP8/Suda4XzJQsI/AAAAAAAADGk/OeBegYGXW8A/s320/Bear%2BGrylls_571_18981847_0_0_7022686_300.jpg)

I've met a few operators in my time and none of them were as big as Schwarzenegger in the original Predator.
Big guys can't move fast for long periods. Cormanci something something CrossfitTM
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: lordoftherink on June 29, 2010, 07:12:14 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/10ftjlv.jpg (http://i46.tinypic.com/10ftjlv.jpg)
http://i50.tinypic.com/2m4rji0.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/2m4rji0.jpg)
Linked to it as they're kind of big. The top screengrab is from the earlier released ubercheap Blu-ray, the bottom is from the new one. Can't believe studios are still fucking up transfers this far into the format's life.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 29, 2010, 07:17:43 PM
Mmmmm....vaseline. :drool
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Bloodwake on June 29, 2010, 10:40:20 PM
No
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: drew on June 29, 2010, 11:48:13 PM
His routine sounds more like drew's, actually.

touche :lol
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: ManaByte on June 30, 2010, 02:06:07 AM
Quote
By all accounts, AVP2 is actually WORSE.

yeah, i thought it wasn't possible to out do AVP1 but... heh... there we go.

Wish someone would swoop in and rescue these franchises. :(



Well that's what this is supposed to do. And that's why they got Scott back on Alien.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 06, 2010, 11:17:03 AM
Quote from: Fan the Fire
Though Predators isn't quite as well put together as the original film, nor do the sequences offer the same sustained threat, it's still enough to get your adrenaline flowing.

Quote from: Urban Cinefile
Full of surprises and twists, the action and the relationships between the contrasting characters keeps us glued

Quote from: Urban Cinefile
Delivering on its promise, Predators is a moody, unrelenting and attention-grabbing sci-fi thriller, filled with action, splendid visual effects and packed with undulating tension

Quote from: FILMINK
While the first Predator movie was a vehicle for its star and the second didn't make a whole load of sense, Predators foregrounds the action and brooding menace of the bloodthirsty aliens.

Quote from: Cinema Autopsy
For the most part Predators is B-grade fun in the best possible way.

Based on 5 reviews, it's 100% and an average of 6.9.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Ichirou on July 06, 2010, 11:17:36 AM
Predators is already out in Japan, I should go see it.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 06, 2010, 11:17:58 AM
Go see it and let us know how it is. For great justice.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 06, 2010, 11:21:11 AM
The low score average from early screenings with Internet critics means it will get a beat down from mainstream critics.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Ichirou on July 06, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
Lemme see if I can get my girlfriend interested.  Don't wanna go by myself.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 06, 2010, 11:22:33 AM
Yeah, go see it. Let us know if it's worth getting a ticket for!
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Ichirou on July 06, 2010, 11:25:57 AM
Can't be as bad as the AVP movies, right?
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 06, 2010, 11:28:14 AM
I don't have much optimism for this one.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Cheebs on July 06, 2010, 11:36:01 AM
Same here, I will see it if it gets decent reviews though from non internet critics though. I don't have much optimism for Ridley Scott's Alien prequel either. Ridley Scott isn't Ridley Scott anymore. Kingdom of Heaven aside all he does anymore are barely passable studio movies.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Tauntaun on July 06, 2010, 12:12:43 PM
Gonna see this next week on vacation.  :pump  Aliens + Guns = win in my book.  :hyper
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 06, 2010, 01:09:03 PM
Pretty damn certain it's gonna be a good movie.

Good Producer, Good Director, Good Actors. This movie will work.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: fistfulofmetal on July 06, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
hey it's got the same RT % as Inception!!!
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 06, 2010, 01:45:44 PM
hey it's got the same RT % as Inception!!!

Lower average score though.  8)
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Diunx on July 06, 2010, 04:38:20 PM
Movie will suck, don't get your hopes up people.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 06, 2010, 04:43:32 PM
Pretty damn certain it's gonna be a good movie.
Ouch.  The producers won't be happy when they see this.

Don't understand why you try so hard to label my opinion as the kiss of death. It has been pretty much the opposite so far, when it comes to real world results.

 :patel
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: chronovore on July 07, 2010, 01:18:26 AM
Predators is already out in Japan, I should go see it.
Really?! Awesome; I know what I'm doing on Thursday night.
Title: Re: So...is Predators going to be any good?
Post by: chronovore on July 07, 2010, 01:28:30 AM
http://i46.tinypic.com/10ftjlv.jpg (http://i46.tinypic.com/10ftjlv.jpg)
http://i50.tinypic.com/2m4rji0.jpg (http://i50.tinypic.com/2m4rji0.jpg)
Linked to it as they're kind of big. The top screengrab is from the earlier released ubercheap Blu-ray, the bottom is from the new one. Can't believe studios are still fucking up transfers this far into the format's life.

Why does it look like someone drew over the screen in the second pic? He doesn't even look REAL.
Yeah. Yuck.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Ichirou on July 07, 2010, 01:37:08 AM
Predators is already out in Japan, I should go see it.
Really?! Awesome; I know what I'm doing on Thursday night.

n/m, I must've clicked on the wrong date in the movie theater's website, it doesn't come out until this weekend. :(
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 07, 2010, 01:49:19 AM
Sorry, Charles, but one more Lion still won't help your country win it all. 
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 07, 2010, 01:06:27 PM
I'ma definitely watch it. The whole "HUNTER BECOMES THE HUNTED" scenarios are always fun.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Tauntaun on July 08, 2010, 12:59:36 PM
I'ma definitely watch it. The whole "HUNTER BECOMES THE HUNTED" scenarios are always fun.

We just flipped them rules hunted.   :-*

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Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 08, 2010, 01:24:21 PM
My friend at Fox invited me to the free showing at the studio theater but I'm still deciding if I should go.  I'm just leery of Predator films after the AVP debacles. 
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Brehvolution on July 08, 2010, 01:39:40 PM
:lol Adrian Brody shooting guns in an action flick :rofl
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Enl on July 08, 2010, 02:04:58 PM
Let's just hope Brody can reframe from fucking one of the predators.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Mupepe on July 08, 2010, 02:09:44 PM
Let's just hope Brody can reframe from fucking one of the predators.
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 08, 2010, 09:19:59 PM
Going to see it in the morning. Watching Predator 1&2 on BD tonight.

Fuck AVP they don't exist.

Although Requiem gets props for chest bursting a KID, it's worse than Batman & Robin
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 08, 2010, 11:17:28 PM
Predator 2 sucks
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 08, 2010, 11:35:50 PM
Predator 2 is the direct-to-video sequel that accidentally got released in theaters and is responsible for AVP, so it has a lot going against it, but it has pre-crazy Danny Glover fighting the Predator and always-crazy Gary Busy. So it kinda balances out.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Cheebs on July 09, 2010, 08:35:25 AM
My friend at Fox invited me to the free showing at the studio theater but I'm still deciding if I should go.  I'm just leery of Predator films after the AVP debacles. 
Well, nobody from those moves is involved in this. This is done all by Troublemaker Studios. Robert Rodriguez's guys. Not to say that means it's any good though. I am still leery despite the decent reviews.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Cravis on July 09, 2010, 01:40:34 PM
Thank god Arnold didn't come back for his cameo. I'm sure he read his part and laughed at it just as much as I did.

Still it would have been cool to have Danny Glover come back. Earlier drafts had Fishburnes' character as Glover's cop character from Predator 2.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 09, 2010, 02:07:35 PM
People are calling it as good as the original (and c'mon the original won no oscars) and better the Predator 2 (duh).
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 09, 2010, 03:29:32 PM
People are calling it as good as the original

I have my doubts about THAT.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 09, 2010, 04:50:33 PM
Better than Predator 2 and wipes away the bad taste of AVP
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Cravis on July 09, 2010, 05:02:13 PM
Better than Predator 2 and wipes away the bad taste of AVP
Predator 2 is vastly underrated. It still holds up well. The subway scene, rooftop chase, and freezer battle are all awesome. It's definitely not as good as the original but miles ahead of AVP and AVP: R.

I'll be the sole person to defend AVP: R, though. I can appreciate what they were trying to accomplish. The story was a throwback to the 1950s sci fi films. Space crashes near small town, small town yokels investigate, find crazy creature that begins to kill them, and so forth. The problem is we don't want an old throwback to the 1950s films. Aliens and Predator deserve something epic. They've got 6 movies between them. We've had decades leading up to their battle. That was not what they deserved but it was still a decent movie and very much watchable.

The Predator and Alien designs were leagues better than AVP. The Predalien's design was forgettable.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 09, 2010, 05:14:16 PM
Thank god Arnold didn't come back for his cameo. I'm sure he read his part and laughed at it just as much as I did.


Wat, more info plz
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: bachikarn on July 09, 2010, 05:42:13 PM
Thank god Arnold didn't come back for his cameo. I'm sure he read his part and laughed at it just as much as I did.


Wat, more info plz

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=18249&count=0

Arnold would have been a Predator king. lol
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 09, 2010, 05:42:22 PM
They want a Dutch cameo in the next one apparently.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 09, 2010, 05:46:56 PM
that ending sounds kinda cool though
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 09, 2010, 05:50:02 PM
Better than Predator 2 and wipes away the bad taste of AVP

I can get down with this
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 09, 2010, 05:57:14 PM
The Predators look like hunters again instead of heavy metal scifi monsters like in AVP.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Diunx on July 09, 2010, 06:05:10 PM
Predator 2 rocked, this looks like diarrhea.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Cravis on July 09, 2010, 06:13:27 PM
that ending sounds kinda cool though
Nah the coolest Arnold cameo would end with the survivors being rescued. Aboard a space ship they're told they want them for a team that's going to the Predator homeworld to kick some ass. Their leader is none other than Dutch himself.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 09, 2010, 06:44:17 PM
Predator 2 rocked, this looks like diarrhea.

You loved Avatar. Shit taste confirmed.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: bork on July 09, 2010, 10:52:03 PM
Just saw Predators.  Thought it wasn't bad, but nothing "OMG AWESOME" either.  It was a decent summer flick that felt a bit like a throwback to the older action/suspense movies of the late 80's/early 90's, which I can definitely appreciate, but the whole thing was just "been there, done that" all over the place.  Extremely predictable (except for two things*) and filled with cliches.  Couldn't help my roll my eyes at the Yakuza guy's big part. 

Also the movie's plot (this is not a spoiler) is that a bunch of hardened asshole-killer/soldier types are all being put on the planet to be hunted by the Predators.  The problem with this is that it's hard to sympathize with any of them.  THEY'RE ALL ASSHOLES WHO KILL PEOPLE.   :lol

*Spoilers:
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-I forgot that Laurence Fishburne was in the movie, so his appearance was a surprise to me.  He's also become Laurence Fatburne.  For a character who's supposed to have survived on the Predator's hunting planet for some years, he sure as hell was out of shape.  I also don't understand how he was supposed to have survived for so long by hiding in what would be an OBVIOUS location to check (a giant drilling machine/complex)

-The doctor guy turning out to be a twisted psycho-killer was pretty predictable, but I didn't expect the crazy deathrow-inmate guy to sacrifice himself for everyone like he did.  And yet once again, since he was firmly established as an ASSHOLE, nobody cared.
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I didn't see most of Predator 2 (guess I should watch it now) and didn't bother with AvP1 and 2 since I heard such awful things about them, but this movie in no way touches the original.  It's not a remake, but could be considered a reboot of sorts.  A lot of it was just Predator 1 redux and not done as well.  None of the action scenes were anything special in comparison. 

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The ending was straight-up Predator 1.  Adrien Brody slaps on the mud (as explained to him by the one female character, who happens to be from the country AHNULD was in during Predator, so she knows the story of how he beat it) and smacks the last Predator around.  The end.
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Lastly, the special effects were okay, but anything bloody (I'll just put it that way as to not spoil anything!) didn't look too hot.  People started laughing after one particular type of death scene happened multiple times...it just looked too fake.

When we were walking out of the theater, I heard these teenagers behind me saying "it wasn't that great...the graphics could have been better.  Yeah man, AvP was so much better.  Totally...that movie was AWESOME!"
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 09, 2010, 10:53:44 PM
Stupid teenagers can't appreciate suit Predators over shitty CG Predators.
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: Cheebs on July 09, 2010, 11:22:19 PM
Enough people I know are saying this is pretty decent, I think I'll check this out tomorrow.


Even if this is decent it probably won't hold a candle to Rodriguez's actual next movie he is directing himself that is out in a few months with Robert DeNiro, Lindsay Lohan, Steven Segal, and Don Johnson.  8)
Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: ManaByte on July 09, 2010, 11:34:27 PM
It's still hard to buy the Brody action star until he
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hacks a Predator's head off with a tiny axe
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Title: Re: Apparently Predators might be good
Post by: bork on July 10, 2010, 12:15:00 AM
Even if this is decent it probably won't hold a candle to Rodriguez's actual next movie he is directing himself that is out in a few months with Robert DeNiro, Lindsay Lohan, Steven Segal, and Don Johnson.  8)

They showed the Machete trailer right before the movie started...

...and since Danny Trejo is in Predators, people were getting confused.   :lol