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Title: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 06:56:40 PM
Data care of NPD group


PlayStation 3 154.5K   ::)
PSP 59.4K  :-X
Xbox 360 194.6K  :-\
Wii 334.8K  >:(
Nintendo DS 383.7K  :yuck



RED DEAD REDEMPTION 360 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE May-10 945.9K 1  :pimp
RED DEAD REDEMPTION PS3 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE May-10 567.1K 2  :teehee
SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2 WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-10 563.9K 3  :mario
UFC 2010: UNDISPUTED 360 THQ May-10 221.1K 4  :punch
UFC 2010: UNDISPUTED PS3 THQ May-10 192.3K 5  :dizzy
WII FIT PLUS W/BALANCE BOARD* WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA Oct-09 6   :duh
NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. WII WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA Nov-09 7  :spam
ALAN WAKE * 360 MICROSOFT May-10 8  :lol
POKEMON SOULSILVER VERSION NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA Mar-10 9  :elephant
SKATE 3 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS May-10 10  :poop


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Overall

"Although down this month, May sales reflect the third best-selling May on record after May '08 and May '09."


"The 360 platform, across hardware, software, and accessories, contributed the greatest share of revenue to industry sales for the month, and year-to-date."


"The PS3 platform has enjoyed the greatest percentage growth, with platform sales across hardware, software, and accessories up 32% for the month, and 28% year-to-date."


Hardware

"The portable hardware category contributed the most to the decline in hardware sales for the month, yet the NDS is the best-selling hardware system for May."

"Console hardware unit sales are, in fact, flat to last year. Declines in sales result from a lower average selling price this year compared to last."


"Compared to April, both the PS3 and the 360 platform realized a unit sales increase in hardware"

Software

"Red Dead Redemption was the best-selling game for the month, achieving sales of 1.5 million units across both platforms. The game garnered spectacular review scores and in its first month at retail it has exceeded the lifetime sales of its predecessor, Red Dead Revolver, which was released in May 2004."

"May was the 10th consecutive month of year-over-year software sales increases for the PS3 platform. Combined with the hardware and accessories sales increases for the platform, the PS3 has really hit its stride."

"In May, 8 of the top 10 SKU's for the month were new releases, which was the case with March 2010 as well. When more of the top selling games are new releases, it pushes up the average selling price for software overall, positively contributing to total revenues."

"We have started to measure the consumer spend outside the physical new retail channel. During E3, NPD reported that in 2009, there was an additional consumer spend in the range of $4.5 to $4.75 billion on games content via these other vehicles including used, rental, subscriptions and digitally-delivered content. Our Games Acquisition Monitor and other consumer tracking services will continue to provide clients insight into these other avenues of consumer spend on games content. Moving forward, we plan to release a limited amount of this information into the public domain, either quarterly or semi-annually."

"Another measure of the increasing importance of the digital world is reflected in the percent of sales comprised by online capable games. For May year-to-date, 43% of total software units sold were online capable, as compared to 37% for the same time frame last year."

Accessories

"For the third consecutive month, the top-selling accessory item for the month is the Xbox Live 1600 point card. Video game points and subscriptions cards unit sales are up 12% on a year-to-date basis as compared to the same time period in 2009."
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 06:58:46 PM
Sony is still having supply issues?  :hehe
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Kestastrophe on July 01, 2010, 07:01:34 PM
poor PSP  :'(
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 07:01:47 PM
Some games are more suited for the intimacy of the PC, and others are best played from the couch in front of a larger TV screen. They ultimately realised that the most compelling way to experience Alan Wake was on the Xbox 360 platform, so they focused on making it an Xbox 360 exclusive. Both Microsoft and Remedy have long histories in PC game development. Their decision was about matching this specific game to the right platform.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 01, 2010, 07:03:13 PM
poor PSP  :'(

Marcus will turn the PSP's fortunes around. 
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 07:04:06 PM
they kind of shit in their own bed with the psp, i really think the psp go coming out with the psp 3000 still on the market just confused the fuck out of most people
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: iconoclast on July 01, 2010, 07:04:32 PM
Alan Wake bombed
PSP is on its death bed
skate 3 bombed

no surprises this month.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: MCD on July 01, 2010, 07:05:27 PM
i wasn't even expecting alan wake to be listed.

good enough for remedy.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: tiesto on July 01, 2010, 07:05:34 PM
Wow, PSP sales are absolutely terrible... and it's a shame, lots of good games are coming out in Japan which may not make it over here...

Expected more from Galaxy 2, but at least we know it'll be a perennial seller.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 07:07:02 PM
PC announcement for Alan Wake before end of 2010 :rock
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: iconoclast on July 01, 2010, 07:07:31 PM
I just realized Lost Planet 2 didn't even chart :lol

Nuclear bomb
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 07:08:06 PM
Wait, people are now realizing PSP is dead  :lol?
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
it's been steady trending downward for a long while, but it really started taking a dive after the go was launched
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 07:09:45 PM
PC announcement for Alan Wake before end of 2010 :rock

 :-*
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2010, 07:10:40 PM
psp is DEAD :(

Hopefully KH: BBS and FF13 Agito can revive it.

Go wii :) Go ds :)
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
RDR is a BEAST, its gonna sell 10 mil for sure

fuck you Himuro
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 07:13:22 PM
PC announcement for Alan Wake before end of 2010 :rock

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=245729 (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=245729)

Quote from: Remedy
We are betting the farm on [Alan Wake] and if this isn't a success we'll be selling hotdogs in Helsinki. Really.

 :teehee
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on July 01, 2010, 07:14:31 PM
Holy fuck @ those UFC numbers. About 25%-33% of last years sales.

:lol Sony.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 07:15:21 PM
Microsoft sinking one game a time and making devs go back to pc

 :bow :bow2
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Robo on July 01, 2010, 07:18:34 PM
Wrika should post this thread every month.  :lol
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 07:19:43 PM
Even if you count the sales using Sony's method, the Playstation family still sold less than the Wii or DS and barely more than the 360. 

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9835/kutaragicry.gif)
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 07:20:11 PM
it's been steady trending downward for a long while, but it really started taking a dive after the go was launched

It took a significant dive after UMD became irrelevant. That was when the PSP became a dying platform.

The Go was simply a last cash grab.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 07:20:27 PM
Alan Wake wouldve done a bit better if it didnt release alongside RDR, kinda doomed it
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
Even if you count the sales using Sony's method, the Playstation family still sold less than the Wii or DS and barely more than the 360. 

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9835/kutaragicry.gif)

Nintendo is king as usual.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 07:21:30 PM
it's been steady trending downward for a long while, but it really started taking a dive after the go was launched

It took a significant dive after UMD became irrelevant. That was when the PSP became a dying platform.

The Go was simply a last cash grab.

once again Triple A has no idea what he's talking about
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 07:21:47 PM
Alan Wake wouldve done a bit better if it didnt release alongside RDR, kinda doomed it

Kinecting da dots
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 07:25:14 PM
RDR is shit. Alan Wake deserved those sales.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 07:26:47 PM
I think youre the minority there, sorry bro

They are both great games, but RDR is better
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 07:26:49 PM
it's been steady trending downward for a long while, but it really started taking a dive after the go was launched

It took a significant dive after UMD became irrelevant. That was when the PSP became a dying platform.

The Go was simply a last cash grab.

once again Triple A has no idea what he's talking about

Sure thing boss.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2010, 07:31:59 PM
Sony is still having supply issues?  :hehe

PS3's are made of gold! That's why they can't be manufactured fast enough!!
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 07:34:19 PM
I just dont get what you mean by "UMD becoming irrelevant". UMD has always had the same 'relevance', its the media format that the PSP uses? No more no less? please can you elaborate on this
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: maxy on July 01, 2010, 07:34:33 PM
PS3 is going back to $600 dollar sales

 or maybe that is a supply issue


Everything else is as expected
PSP will surge when kids see Marcus though
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 07:34:48 PM
Sony is still having supply issues?  :hehe

PS3's are made of gold! That's why they can't be manufactured fast enough!!

More like, they are made of unobtanium  :smug


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Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 07:35:40 PM
RDR had no race cars or helicopters, shit game
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 07:36:09 PM
Sony does have manufacturing issues with the Ps3...they can't manufacture interest in the machine. The Ps3 needs another pricecut.
So does the X360. The new X360 will have a short momentum if the price remains the same.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 07:36:57 PM
Sony does have manufacturing issues with the Ps3...they can't manufacture interest in the machine.

:lol that was a pretty good one
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2010, 07:37:37 PM
Game that didn't chart for May

Iron Man 2
Lost Planet 2
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands
Split/Second
Backbreaker
Blur
ModNation Racers
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 07:39:54 PM
Sony should be the new XFE.  They've been doing a much better job of rallying the troops than our formerly beloved ruler. 
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
Game that didn't chart for May

Iron Man 2
Lost Planet 2
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands
Split/Second
Backbreaker
Blur
ModNation Racers

phew, I dont have to eat a turd
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 07:45:25 PM
Sceneman the Last Xamurai :bow2

Maybe he should be the new XFE. 
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 07:47:51 PM
RDR had no race cars or helicopters, shit game

It's a very restricting game. You can't even swim. smh. I still don't get all the praise the game is getting. GTA4 is waaaaay better.
Western theme is so boring. Good thing I wasn't born during that time. Would've probably died of boredom.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on July 01, 2010, 07:50:02 PM
Sony does have manufacturing issues with the Ps3...they can't manufacture interest in the machine. The Ps3 needs another pricecut.

:rofl
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 07:50:32 PM
Sceneman the Last Xamurai :bow2

Maybe he should be the new XFE. 

Im a disgusting fanboy alright, but I dont think Im clever enough or a good enough poster to deserve that title.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 07:51:04 PM
I just dont get what you mean by "UMD becoming irrelevant". UMD has always had the same 'relevance', its the media format that the PSP uses? No more no less? please can you elaborate on this

Sure.

The PSP was never marketed as a device that relied on digital distribution. It was marketed as a device that used the UMD format for all it's games and movies.

UMD games stopped selling because a) People weren't interested in having 12 hour long portable gaming experiences b) People weren't interested in playing ports and ports alone and finally c) Piracy reared it's ugly head on the platform.

UMD movies stopped selling because pricing for UMD movies was atrocious.

Ultimately, the UMD format became irrelevant because people stopped spending money on the format. And ofcourse, the PSP suffered because of this.



Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 07:51:09 PM
WTF would you want to swim in a cowboy game?  
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2010, 07:52:05 PM
I still don't get all the praise the game is getting.

Shocker!
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 07:53:17 PM
WTF would you want to swim in a cowboy game?  

I guess all the people drowned too back then.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 07:54:11 PM
Sceneman the Last Xamurai :bow2

Maybe he should be the new XFE. 

Im a disgusting fanboy alright, but I dont think Im clever enough or a good enough poster to deserve that title.

That's OK.  You can still be the Xfag Prince of New Zealand. 
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: lordoftherink on July 01, 2010, 07:55:41 PM
I almost replied to a TripleA post. I hope that never happens again.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: OptimoPeach on July 01, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
lol Third said GTA 4 is better than something
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 08:04:21 PM
WTF would you want to swim in a cowboy game?  

I guess all the people drowned too back then.

You really are painting your self as quite the dumb shit.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 08:05:40 PM
I still don't get the GTA4 hate. The gaming journalism surrounding it was a mess. And a lot of people hated the game for that. But it's so much better than RDR.
RDR only has better graphics. But that's pretty obvious considering they only had to render an empty wasteland (RDR) instead of a city(GTA4).
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 08:06:31 PM
Sony does have manufacturing issues with the Ps3...they can't manufacture interest in the machine. The Ps3 needs another pricecut.
So does the X360. The new X360 will have a short momentum if the price remains the same.

No, a price cut won't help the PS3 much at this point.

The problem with the PS3 is the exact problem the GameCube faced years ago. That is: the overall Ps3 experience feels completely outdated when compared to the competition.

Sony are too busy arguing amongst themselves to notice this  :D
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 08:07:57 PM
RDR had no race cars or helicopters, shit game

It's a very restricting game. You can't even swim. smh. I still don't get all the praise the game is getting. GTA4 is waaaaay better.
Western theme is so boring. Good thing I wasn't born during that time. Would've probably died of boredom.

i'm just messing with you, it's all personal preference, i love westerns so i find it endlessly entertaining
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 01, 2010, 08:09:12 PM
I still don't get the GTA4 hate

Did you play San Andreas?
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 08:12:50 PM
RDR had no race cars or helicopters, shit game

It's a very restricting game. You can't even swim. smh. I still don't get all the praise the game is getting. GTA4 is waaaaay better.
Western theme is so boring. Good thing I wasn't born during that time. Would've probably died of boredom.

i'm just messing with you, it's all personal preference, i love westerns so i find it endlessly entertaining

Sorry, Eel but "You can't even swim" in a Wild West setting is beyond personal preference.  It's just plain distinguished mentally-challenged. 

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 08:14:32 PM
SA is the better GTA because it offered more content. I was disappointed in GTA4 after playing the awesome SA. But GTA4 still managed to amaze me.

And yeah, I really hate western. I always associate it with rednecks and cheap looking movies with Indians in it. Never was a fan.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 08:17:11 PM
Watch Unforgiven.

 :bow Wild West  :bow2
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 08:17:23 PM
RDR had no race cars or helicopters, shit game

It's a very restricting game. You can't even swim. smh. I still don't get all the praise the game is getting. GTA4 is waaaaay better.
Western theme is so boring. Good thing I wasn't born during that time. Would've probably died of boredom.

i'm just messing with you, it's all personal preference, i love westerns so i find it endlessly entertaining

Sorry, Eel but "You can't even swim" in a Wild West setting is beyond personal preference.  It's just plain distinguished mentally-challenged. 



tbh, the swimming thing bugged me a bit when i was crossing a stream and all of a sudden my horse and i both drowned when neither of our heads were under water
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2010, 08:21:27 PM
And yeah, I really hate western. I always associate it with rednecks and cheap looking movies with Indians in it. Never was a fan.

Then the easy thing would have been to never buy or play the game.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 08:23:11 PM
RDR had no race cars or helicopters, shit game

It's a very restricting game. You can't even swim. smh. I still don't get all the praise the game is getting. GTA4 is waaaaay better.
Western theme is so boring. Good thing I wasn't born during that time. Would've probably died of boredom.

i'm just messing with you, it's all personal preference, i love westerns so i find it endlessly entertaining

Sorry, Eel but "You can't even swim" in a Wild West setting is beyond personal preference.  It's just plain distinguished mentally-challenged. 



tbh, the swimming thing bugged me a bit when i was crossing a stream and all of a sudden my horse and i both drowned when neither of our heads were under water

Well then, use a trainer with the PC version. 
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 08:23:38 PM
According to Smooth Groove, people don't need the ability to swim in a place where there's not a lot of water to be found.
Now that is distinguished mentally-challenged. When I see water in a game, I want to swim. Letting my character and a fucking horse drown in a puddle is cheap and stupid.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 01, 2010, 08:25:31 PM
Will you shut the fuck up about the swimming?

I knew the character couldn't swim. I died once. What's the problem? That you were dumb enough to try it multiple times?
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 01, 2010, 08:26:36 PM
According to Smooth Groove, people don't need the ability to swim in a place where there's not a lot of water to be found.
Now that is distinguished mentally-challenged. When I see water in a game, I want to swim. Letting my character and a fucking horse drown in a puddle is cheap and stupid.

Ah Nfags, defenders of fully immersible game worlds
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 08:29:16 PM
RDR had no race cars or helicopters, shit game

It's a very restricting game. You can't even swim. smh. I still don't get all the praise the game is getting. GTA4 is waaaaay better.
Western theme is so boring. Good thing I wasn't born during that time. Would've probably died of boredom.

i'm just messing with you, it's all personal preference, i love westerns so i find it endlessly entertaining

Sorry, Eel but "You can't even swim" in a Wild West setting is beyond personal preference.  It's just plain distinguished mentally-challenged. 



tbh, the swimming thing bugged me a bit when i was crossing a stream and all of a sudden my horse and i both drowned when neither of our heads were under water

Well then, use a trainer with the PC version. 

:(

a pc version of this game would be so awesome, i can just imagine all the mods
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 08:29:26 PM
I guess they wanted to see Marston involved in a Tomb Raider style flooded mine level, with him swimming around pulling underwater levers and stuff
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2010, 08:29:55 PM
NPD :yawn
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 08:30:35 PM
I've seen horses everywhere in America.  Why can't I ride one in GTA?  
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 08:31:36 PM
I've seen horses everywhere in America.  Why can't I ride one in GTA?  

Only chicks ride horses nowadays. BUSTED
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 08:31:49 PM
don't include me in this whole swimming argument, i drowned once and didn't go back in the water, but drowning when you're only hip deep in it is inarguably distinguished mentally-challenged
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2010, 08:34:26 PM
I don't think anyone disputes the water thing is dumb. But then the game mostly has almost no water missions and the game isn't really focused around water. big deal. It's one thing. It's not even in my list of top 20 things I could complain about in the game. But Third gets talking about it like the game is fucking waterworld. Not to mention his dumb thing about I hate westerns so I bought/played a western game!

I hate RTS's games! Guess what. I'm not buying Starcraft 2!
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2010, 08:36:31 PM
Guys I hate modern military war game shooters and the the environments around them.


Should I buy Medal of Honor Or Call of Duty Black Ops this fall?


Thx!

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 01, 2010, 08:38:06 PM
I'd love to see horses in GTA, though. Imagine crashing a car into one. :drool

I had to try out RDR because the hype got to me. I'll never play a wester game again. I'll only play a western game when there's fiction involved, like swimming. :teehee
Something like Stranger's Wrath I like. Western themed, but very playable and interesting.  
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 08:38:34 PM
i'd probably hate it if it weren't a western, honestly

my love of the setting goes a long way towards helping me overlook stuff like the terrible "natural motion" movement which results in comically running around the bottom of a ladder 3-4 times when you're trying to climb it, and the sticky cover system which decides to affix you permanently to a rock and spin you around directly into someone's line of fire
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 08:39:20 PM
Third wants to learn swimming because he's drowning in sfag tears. 
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 01, 2010, 08:41:22 PM
i'd probably hate it if it weren't a western, honestly

my love of the setting goes a long way towards helping me overlook stuff like the terrible "natural motion" movement which results in comically running around the bottom of a ladder 3-4 times when you're trying to climb it, and the sticky cover system which decides to affix you permanently to a rock and spin you around directly into someone's line of fire

I'm pretty consistent. I liked GTA 4 and I liked RDR although I think RDR is a superior game on pretty much all fronts. Both janky games. But plenty of games are janky including some of the all time greats.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 01, 2010, 08:42:45 PM
on the other hand, i'm good enough at aiming and shooting and rolling without the aim assist in free roam now that i actually caused someone of a higher level who was trying to spawnkill me to rage quit the other night, and i suck at most games, so goty 2010
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on July 01, 2010, 08:43:29 PM
Hardware was ok except PSP bigbosssalute.jpg

Lots of bombs though.


http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/110/1103488p1.html

Racing games got annihilated this month

ModNation makes top 15, Blur and Split/Second out of top 30  :o
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 10:00:37 PM
Blur & Split Second = xtreme bomba

So they did less than like, 20k each?
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 01, 2010, 10:04:44 PM
I wonder if Split Second and Blur combined came close to Mario Kart. :teehee
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: drew on July 01, 2010, 10:20:30 PM
watch the proposition

:bow australian outback :bow2
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2010, 10:33:57 PM
what did galaxy 1 sell?

someone posted last year's UFC numbers versus this year and it was a huge drop.  Pretty much everything seems bad except for RDR and maybe Galaxy 2.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: MCD on July 01, 2010, 10:35:13 PM
i remember galaxy selling double that.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 10:38:08 PM
blah blah blah gaming is dead
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: MCD on July 01, 2010, 10:39:27 PM
it is on hold till 3ds.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: cool breeze on July 01, 2010, 10:45:35 PM
blah blah blah gaming is dead

life support.  sony has the pillow and microsoft just pulled the plug.  nintendo is checking its pulse with the vitality sensor  :heart
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 01, 2010, 10:51:15 PM
what did galaxy 1 sell?

1.12 million in November 2007 and 1.4 million in December.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 01, 2010, 10:51:27 PM
I don't think SMG1 did that amazing. Also it was out in November
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 10:52:27 PM
Dont heaps of articles say that the interactive entertainment industry is booming? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 01, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
facebook
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 01, 2010, 10:57:29 PM
well, the distinguished mentally-challenged big budget co-op bromance HD shooter only has so many legs, I guess
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 01, 2010, 11:05:34 PM
needs more swimming titles :fbm
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: MCD on July 01, 2010, 11:18:46 PM
needs more swimming titles :fbm
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Miyamoto has recently told a group of Japanese investors that he has currently taken up swimming.

http://kotaku.com/5577141/lets-guess-mario-creators-new-game

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on July 01, 2010, 11:19:21 PM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/110/1103488p1.html

Racing games got annihilated this month

ModNation makes top 15, Blur and Split/Second out of top 30  :o

I bought ModNation.

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Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Trent Dole on July 01, 2010, 11:58:05 PM
Uh, you could swim in Bully. Why the hell can't you in RDR? :dur
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2010, 12:04:54 AM
Did anyone eve know how to swim in those days? I bet not.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: MCD on July 02, 2010, 12:10:48 AM
swimming is overrated anyway.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 02, 2010, 12:12:22 AM
Did anyone eve know how to swim in those days? I bet not.

I hope to fucking god you're kidding.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on July 02, 2010, 12:20:23 AM
Guns are heavy. Ever tried swimming with a full on arsenal of weapons strapped to your back?

Ive tried swimming with an enormous weapon stashed in my trunks, and I did fine  :-*
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Bocsius on July 02, 2010, 12:22:40 AM
Is Michael Phelps in this Red Dead Whatever game?
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2010, 12:24:12 AM
all games should have a separate swimming skill to upgrade like Deus Ex

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 02, 2010, 12:24:14 AM
Speaking of swimming, RDR is a turd
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 02, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
I think I'm going Kayaking
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 02, 2010, 12:30:55 AM
without a shirt :smug


Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 02, 2010, 12:32:49 AM
:smug
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 02, 2010, 02:02:25 AM
I don't know if we should be :smug or :fbm that we're the only gaming forum talking about swimming instead of analyzing sales in a NPD thread. 
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: maxy on July 02, 2010, 06:30:02 AM
Yeah that is good

Third :bow2
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on July 02, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
:bow Alan Wake coming to PC :bow2

:piss GFW :piss2

I know, it won't be on Steam :(
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on July 02, 2010, 09:48:02 AM
Wii sports machine, still.

What games are these people buying a wii for??
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 09:52:00 AM
:rofl at people thinking Alan Wake would sell ON THE PC.


It would!


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Once it hit 99 cents on steam
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Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 02, 2010, 09:53:38 AM
PC gamers are just savvy consumers.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 10:02:34 AM
PC gamers don't buy single player only games. They torrent them.

Fixed for accuracy.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on July 02, 2010, 10:05:06 AM
Blur & Split Second = xtreme bomba

So they did less than like, 20k each?
No accounting for taste.  :'(
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 02, 2010, 10:06:44 AM
PC gamers don't buy single player only games. They torrent them.

Fixed for accuracy.

True PC gamers use Usenet. :smug
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 02, 2010, 10:09:56 AM
Alan Wake on Steam would easily sell just as well as Alan Wake on 360.

150k isn't a difficult number to beat, especially with the ridiculous Steam sales that pop up.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 10:14:13 AM
Alan Wake on Steam would easily sell just as well as Alan Wake on 360.

150k isn't a difficult number to beat, especially with the ridiculous Steam sales that pop up.

Since steam doesn't release sales numbers its actually fairly difficult to know how much it would sell and especially at what price. At least for regular people.

People who have the data at the actual companies are in a different situation of course.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 10:47:49 AM
lulz.

That's the main reason to game on the PC. Outside of multiplayer titles its all FREE!
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 02, 2010, 10:59:13 AM
Maybe if you're a dirty poor pirate. ???
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 11:04:15 AM
Maybe if you're a dirty poor pirate. ???

Yep. That must be it...
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 02, 2010, 11:07:40 AM
Alan Wake on Steam would easily sell just as well as Alan Wake on 360.

150k isn't a difficult number to beat, especially with the ridiculous Steam sales that pop up.

Since steam doesn't release sales numbers its actually fairly difficult to know how much it would sell and especially at what price. At least for regular people.

People who have the data at the actual companies are in a different situation of course.

Eh, I'm sure Valve wouldn't mind disclosing whether or not AW sold 100k+ on Steam.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 11:19:09 AM
Alan Wake on Steam would easily sell just as well as Alan Wake on 360.

150k isn't a difficult number to beat, especially with the ridiculous Steam sales that pop up.

Since steam doesn't release sales numbers its actually fairly difficult to know how much it would sell and especially at what price. At least for regular people.

People who have the data at the actual companies are in a different situation of course.

Eh, I'm sure Valve wouldn't mind disclosing whether or not AW sold 100k+ on Steam.

Actually they would since they generally don't release sales data for games they don't publish (Valve does occasionally for their own titles) and even then they don't generally specify sales at various price points.  But the publisher themselves might disclose such figures although even they generally don't unless it comes in the form of a security filing. It is generally very difficult to find actual digital sales numbers for most titles unless the publishers decides to release those numbers.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 02, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
Alan Wake on Steam would easily sell just as well as Alan Wake on 360.

150k isn't a difficult number to beat, especially with the ridiculous Steam sales that pop up.

Since steam doesn't release sales numbers its actually fairly difficult to know how much it would sell and especially at what price. At least for regular people.

People who have the data at the actual companies are in a different situation of course.

Eh, I'm sure Valve wouldn't mind disclosing whether or not AW sold 100k+ on Steam.

Actually they would since they generally don't release sales data for their games and even then they don't generally specify sales at various price points.  But the publisher themselves might disclose such figures although even they generally don't unless it comes in the form of a security filing.

I'm 99.9% sure Microsoft wouldn't give out the numbers, they would sooner shoot their brains out than make the 360 version look bad.

So it would either be Remedy or Valve. Given the lovely relationship Microsoft has with Valve, I wonder if Valve would seize the opportunity to make their platform look better.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 02, 2010, 11:45:24 AM
I've bought games at full retail for PC, but I buy them just like I buy console games, which is wait for the deals 90% of the time

Since I've seen just about every motherfucker on this board stick his or her head into the "gaming deals" threads and link to coupons or sales to snag console games for dirt cheap, there isn't a single PC or console gamer here who has room to talk down the other
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: cool breeze on July 02, 2010, 11:57:24 AM
I still buy a lot of PC games retail at release.  I just don't spend full price because of either Amazon or maybe a steam deal.  I treat console games the same way.  The majority of games I pick up during these steam sales are ones I had a passing interest in and pick up just because.  It's mostly to avoid having a backlog filled with new releases.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: maxy on July 02, 2010, 12:42:55 PM
Ah,DD sales...backup plan 

It just shows how shitty the PC gaming has become...clinging to some imaginary DD sales numbers that will never be released

If DD games where selling that great,numbers would be published and pimped everywhere...technically,one button press could show them all...unlike retail where publishers have to pay quite a lot to NPD,GFK,etc

But that just shows how crappy and immature gaming industry is...bu bu bu we are a billion dollars industry and yet you can't make weekly top 10 with $$$ figures

Meh.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 02, 2010, 12:44:30 PM
Why would Valve want to reveal how much dough they're making?  So that even more people can jump in for a piece of that pie?
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 02, 2010, 01:00:19 PM
Ah,DD sales...backup plan 

It just shows how shitty the PC gaming has become...clinging to some imaginary DD sales numbers that will never be released

If DD games where selling that great,numbers would be published and pimped everywhere...technically,one button press could show them all...unlike retail where publishers have to pay quite a lot to NPD,GFK,etc

But that just shows how crappy and immature gaming industry is...bu bu bu we are a billion dollars industry and yet you can't make weekly top 10 with $$$ figures

Meh.


Looks like some devs enjoy DD quite a bit. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22174691&postcount=5636)
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 02, 2010, 01:05:04 PM
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While we may have been able to make some portion of those sales at the full $9.99 price

Stopped reading here :lol
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 01:08:55 PM
DD is a fine area and one which will become even more common and important in the future.


Where it breaks down though is where PC gamers delude themselves into thinking certain PC games or franchises are bigger than they are because of DD sales.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 02, 2010, 01:28:58 PM
I still buy a lot of PC games retail at release.  I just don't spend full price because of either Amazon or maybe a steam deal.  I treat console games the same way.  The majority of games I pick up during these steam sales are ones I had a passing interest in and pick up just because.  It's mostly to avoid having a backlog filled with new releases.

The reality is the majority of both PC and console games are not worth full price.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: maxy on July 02, 2010, 01:30:39 PM
Ah,DD sales...backup plan 

It just shows how shitty the PC gaming has become...clinging to some imaginary DD sales numbers that will never be released

If DD games where selling that great,numbers would be published and pimped everywhere...technically,one button press could show them all...unlike retail where publishers have to pay quite a lot to NPD,GFK,etc

But that just shows how crappy and immature gaming industry is...bu bu bu we are a billion dollars industry and yet you can't make weekly top 10 with $$$ figures

Meh.


Looks like some devs enjoy DD quite a bit. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22174691&postcount=5636)

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While we may have been able to make some portion of those sales at the full $9.99 price

 :smug

I don't hate DD,i think it's great actually but if publishers think that they can put $60 game on DD just like that...hmm

It's great for cheap games,impulse buy...full price games,uh oh
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 02, 2010, 02:00:09 PM
I'll try to work around your schedule next time.  :-*
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on July 02, 2010, 04:31:42 PM
other half of list is now up

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/29261/NPD_Top_20_Reveals_Lost_Planet_2_ModNation_Racers.php

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11. Lost Planet 2 (Capcom, Xbox 360)
12. New Super Mario Bros (Nintendo, DS)
13. Pokemon Heartgold (Nintendo, DS)
14. God of War III (Sony Santa Monica, PS3)
15. Just Dance (Ubisoft, Wii)
16. Mario Kart, with wheel (Nintendo, Wii)
17. Super Street Fighter IV (Capcom, PS3)
18. ModNation Racers (United Front/Sony, PS3)
19. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Infinity Ward/Activision, Xbox 360)
20. Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo, Wii)


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-fi-ct-games-20100702,0,3292949.story
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Blur, failed to catch on, selling just 31,000 units.



Seems that ModNation top 15 thing was based on revenue and this is unit sales?
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 04:35:49 PM
Unfortunate because I like Blur but those are the breaks I guess.

Bizzare creations seems to have a hard time selling their games outside of Geometry wars even though they generally make good stuff. Blur & The Club were their last two games at retail and neither of those set the world on fire when it came to sales.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: iconoclast on July 02, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
PGR4 bombed out the gate too. Too bad, game was awesome.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 02, 2010, 04:49:29 PM
This is a company that actually should focus on Digital Distribution. If Blur was strictly an online affair and budgeted and sold at the right price I think they may have had something. But its hard for me to recommend to people at $60.

Plus outside of a couple franchises racing games in general seem to be a hard sell to the public right now.

edit: Lolz. Reading that gaf thread there are actually nintendo fanboys who are happy the game bombed because their commercial trolled Mario Kart. Never change GAF.  :lol
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on July 02, 2010, 04:53:04 PM
can't blame Activision, I saw more ads for it then Red Dead Redemption. *

* minus the billboards and bus ads plastered all over my city.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 02, 2010, 05:54:56 PM
How long until Bizarre are relegated to making Call of Duty map packs and subsequently shut down? :-\
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 02, 2010, 05:56:24 PM
Nobody will miss them

50 Cent > The Club

Split Second > Blur
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 02, 2010, 06:00:33 PM
? > Geometry Wars 2? ???
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 03, 2010, 08:42:47 AM
Alan Wake 145k

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/02/npd-on-the-red-dead-alan-wake-and-split-second-retail-showdown/

Mega bomba. I didn't expect it to sell this bad.

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: WrikaWrek on July 03, 2010, 08:45:08 AM
Microsoft handled Alan Wake really poorly, and then released it on the same goddamn day as RDR.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 03, 2010, 08:48:52 AM
Two different type of games anyway. Alan Wake caters to people who like videogames. RDR is just another commercial sanbdox game for the average joe.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 03, 2010, 09:32:17 AM
It's pretty clear at this point that the PS3 was always more demand constrained, rather than supply constrained.  The PS3 is just treading water as a platform at this point.  I doubt Move will change a whole hell of a lot but GT5 will give it a nice boost come November...

I feel sorry for Blur sales.  I really like racing games and they are flopping like fish as a genre.  I hate to see them devolve into generic sandbox racers or be eliminated as a viable genre altogether.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 03, 2010, 11:01:46 AM
It's pretty clear at this point that the PS3 was always more demand constrained, rather than supply constrained.  The PS3 is just treading water as a platform at this point.  I doubt Move will change a whole hell of a lot but GT5 will give it a nice boost come November...

I feel sorry for Blur sales.  I really like racing games and they are flopping like fish as a genre.  I hate to see them devolve into generic sandbox racers or be eliminated as a viable genre altogether.

GT5 won't give it a nice boost if Sony doesn't create a good bundle for the game.

Pack in GT5 and a racing helmet/racing wheel with a 120GB Ps3, and they're good.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on July 03, 2010, 12:09:08 PM
Nobody will miss them

50 Cent > The Club

Split Second > Blur
No accounting for taste.  :yuck
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 03, 2010, 12:12:16 PM

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Blur, failed to catch on, selling just 31,000 units.

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Split/Second sold  86K


UHAUHAHUAHUAHUAHA
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 03, 2010, 12:14:22 PM
yeah i guess split/second won in the "not quite as complete a failure" contest

what's the prize for that
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 03, 2010, 12:16:33 PM
My validation as SUPREME ANALYST OF THE WORLD and telling ferrariman he's a fucking LOSER
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 03, 2010, 12:24:07 PM
to be more pachteresque you need to speculate more about wii hd, and keep shifting prediction dates around so that when something finally comes to pass you can be all "dudes i told you so"
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on July 03, 2010, 12:25:08 PM
Blur won the race to $40 which secured my purchase. :smug
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 03, 2010, 12:25:54 PM
Blur won the race to $40 which secured my purchase. :smug

Split Second was $40 way before Blur as well

Blur won the race for "Having to resort to have a $20 off manufacturer coupon"
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on July 03, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
BB set it at $40 plus I had a $10 RZ coupon. They wouldn't take the manufactures' coupon.  ::)

If Split Second is only $40, I'll pick it up Wed..
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: cool breeze on July 03, 2010, 12:34:30 PM
at least wait until the end of the year before you get into all this.  NFS Hot Pursuit is still out there, as is GT5.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on July 03, 2010, 12:39:36 PM
I'm more interested in NFS than GT5.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on July 03, 2010, 12:40:14 PM

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Blur, failed to catch on, selling just 31,000 units.

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Split/Second sold  86K


UHAUHAHUAHUAHUAHA

:rofl HILARIOUS. Never expected it to be destroyed so much
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 03, 2010, 12:41:54 PM
yes, but that's like saying someone with a pellet gun destroyed someone with a bb gun
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on July 03, 2010, 12:43:14 PM
True. It's still amusing to me though
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 03, 2010, 12:48:48 PM
yes, but that's like saying someone with a pellet gun destroyed someone with a bb gun

It's not about who destroyed who. It's about my petty validation. And I earned it, and I will rub myself with it
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 03, 2010, 12:56:39 PM
upload pics of said rubbing
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: demi on July 03, 2010, 01:05:08 PM
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4189/normalpicture50.jpg
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: maxy on July 03, 2010, 01:12:13 PM
Alan Wake 145k

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/02/npd-on-the-red-dead-alan-wake-and-split-second-retail-showdown/

Mega bomba. I didn't expect it to sell this bad.

If it were a game with a normal development cycle and budget then I'd say selling over 100k is great news. However Remedy/Microsoft has poured untold tens of millions into this project over an incredibly lengthy period of time. You're right, that's not good at all.

Who cares though, the game is fun. Remedy did a good job.

Hmm...

I don't think so...financial part of course

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Max Payne and Alan Wake-outings by the famous Finnish gaming company Remedy Entertainment Ltd. last year made 1.8 million in losses.  Loss for the year was already the company's third consecutive.

 In 2008, losses amounted to EUR 2.9 million and in 2007, 0.7 million, so the total losses over the past three years will rise a total of 5.4 million.

 The turnover, the company made last year, 2.5 million, when in 2008 it amounted only to a fair one thousand euros.

 Large variations in turnover and the performance of the sector are well characterized, since the game requires the development of large R & D inputs. The game company's new game Alan Wake was published in May. Behind is a multi-year development period.

 Three-year loss for the pipe has eroded the company's equity capital, which remained at the end of the year was still 0.8 million.

Has also been an extraordinary fact that the company has had to resort to borrowing money business finance.  MFI interest-bearing loans has become a recognized during the period of EUR 2.1 million.  Previously, the company has been debt-free.

Corporate liquidity is still good, it was a cash balance at the end of 3.3 million. Amount covers about 80 percent of the company's annual operating costs, even though the turnover did not accrue at all, so cash liquidity has been good.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kauppalehti.fi%2F5%2Fi%2Fyritykset%2Fyritysuutiset%2Findex.jsp%3Foid%3D2010%2F06%2F34659&sl=fi&tl=en (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kauppalehti.fi%2F5%2Fi%2Fyritykset%2Fyritysuutiset%2Findex.jsp%3Foid%3D2010%2F06%2F34659&sl=fi&tl=en)

Google translate,but if somebody knows Finnish...

And somehow i don't think that MS spend a lot on this game...
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: archie4208 on July 03, 2010, 01:13:04 PM
Remember how Activision execs said that Blur would be the Modern Warfare of racing games?  :teehee
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Third on July 03, 2010, 01:17:39 PM
Jesus was still alive when Remedy started working on Alan Wake. It has been in development forever. You have to pay the staff too, you know.
I'm sure the game devcosts approached the $20mln in the end.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: maxy on July 03, 2010, 01:27:37 PM
Remedy is like 30 people...maybe even less

A little correction...they are now 40+...20 something in 2005


Title: Re: NPD
Post by: MCD on July 03, 2010, 01:31:20 PM
i want a pc port

sellouts, hope they bankrupt

smh pcfags.

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 03, 2010, 01:38:40 PM
Didn't Halo 3 outsell all of the PS3 exclusives combined?  MS is more than entitled to have an exclusive that performed more like a PS3 exclusive. 
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 03, 2010, 01:46:22 PM
The problem with Alan Wake is that it came out a couple of years too late.  The game was considered vaporware by most people until just a bit before the game actually came out.  Then again so was RDR and that sold 1.5 million in the first month...

It's pretty clear at this point that the PS3 was always more demand constrained, rather than supply constrained.  The PS3 is just treading water as a platform at this point.  I doubt Move will change a whole hell of a lot but GT5 will give it a nice boost come November...

I feel sorry for Blur sales.  I really like racing games and they are flopping like fish as a genre.  I hate to see them devolve into generic sandbox racers or be eliminated as a viable genre altogether.

GT5 won't give it a nice boost if Sony doesn't create a good bundle for the game.

Pack in GT5 and a racing helmet/racing wheel with a 120GB Ps3, and they're good.


By a "nice boost" I mean tens of thousands of additional sales for the month it is released.  The only reason why PS3 had the late 2009 performance it had was because the price moved down to an affordable level.  Once those people got one, it is relegated to third place again, per the usual.

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: maxy on July 03, 2010, 01:51:35 PM
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Didn't Halo 3 outsell all of the PS3 exclusives combined?

It think it did,but 4-5 high profile ones...who cares

Have to correct myself again :-[

47 employees(2009)

And if somebody has some extra euros to throw around,there are various reports that you can download here...then we can get to the bottom of this

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/yritykset/yrityshaku/osuma.jsp%3Fid%3D10172789&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhjGyyRg6hOWnf1HdU3msKOQutlYxg (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/yritykset/yrityshaku/osuma.jsp%3Fid%3D10172789&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhjGyyRg6hOWnf1HdU3msKOQutlYxg)

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on July 03, 2010, 02:08:08 PM
Alan Wake was never going to sell because honestly it doesn't have a lot of mass appeal. And I think Max Payne is pretty much one of the most over-rated series of all time but at least it hit at the right time with the right gimmick which was bullet time.

The more direct issue with Microsoft is whether they want or understand how to broaden the profile of their console beyond just the shooter box. (Although this is the perfect generation to be a shooter box if that is what you are going to be)
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 03, 2010, 02:45:29 PM
Didn't Halo 3 outsell all of the PS3 exclusives combined?  MS is more than entitled to have an exclusive that performed more like a PS3 exclusive. 

Or like Too Human, Forza 3, Banjo Kazooie, You're In The Movies, etc.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 03, 2010, 02:49:43 PM
The problem with Alan Wake is that it came out a couple of years too late.  The game was considered vaporware by most people until just a bit before the game actually came out.  Then again so was RDR and that sold 1.5 million in the first month...

It's pretty clear at this point that the PS3 was always more demand constrained, rather than supply constrained.  The PS3 is just treading water as a platform at this point.  I doubt Move will change a whole hell of a lot but GT5 will give it a nice boost come November...

I feel sorry for Blur sales.  I really like racing games and they are flopping like fish as a genre.  I hate to see them devolve into generic sandbox racers or be eliminated as a viable genre altogether.

GT5 won't give it a nice boost if Sony doesn't create a good bundle for the game.

Pack in GT5 and a racing helmet/racing wheel with a 120GB Ps3, and they're good.


By a "nice boost" I mean tens of thousands of additional sales for the month it is released.  The only reason why PS3 had the late 2009 performance it had was because the price moved down to an affordable level.  Once those people got one, it is relegated to third place again, per the usual.



I see.

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 03, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
Alan Wake was never going to sell because honestly it doesn't have a lot of mass appeal. And I think Max Payne is pretty much one of the most over-rated series of all time but at least it hit at the right time with the right gimmick which was bullet time.

The more direct issue with Microsoft is whether they want or understand how to broaden the profile of their console beyond just the shooter box. (Although this is the perfect generation to be a shooter box if that is what you are going to be)

Alan Wake is pretty much a shooter, at least, that's what the majority of reviews pegged it as.

The most overrated series of all time would be Left4Dead.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: maxy on July 03, 2010, 02:56:12 PM
Alan Wake was never going to sell because honestly it doesn't have a lot of mass appeal. And I think Max Payne is pretty much one of the most over-rated series of all time but at least it hit at the right time with the right gimmick which was bullet time.

The more direct issue with Microsoft is whether they want or understand how to broaden the profile of their console beyond just the shooter box. (Although this is the perfect generation to be a shooter box if that is what you are going to be)


Yeah,i don't think that AW would sell like crazy even if it got 10 10 10 10.... reviews

This is the online gen and if you have no online then people are meh,i will rent,wait until the price drop...especially for shooters,i fully expect that ME3 will have some sort of online multi

There are some games that sell somewhat without online,but let's face it...those games sell because they have a name,Final Fantasy,God of War,etc...but they all have extremely sharp declines

As for the racing games,they will have to morph into some racing,fps,tps,rpg genre just like fps genre has morphed into fps+rpg...

I blame GTA4,Saints Row like games for that.

In short genre blending will be more and more dominant...and devs won't have the luxury to make fps part good,racing part shit or vice versa

Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Madrun Badrun on July 03, 2010, 03:31:05 PM
:lol @ Demi in this thread
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 03, 2010, 03:49:35 PM
Alan Wake was never going to sell because honestly it doesn't have a lot of mass appeal. And I think Max Payne is pretty much one of the most over-rated series of all time but at least it hit at the right time with the right gimmick which was bullet time.

The more direct issue with Microsoft is whether they want or understand how to broaden the profile of their console beyond just the shooter box. (Although this is the perfect generation to be a shooter box if that is what you are going to be)

The most overrated series of all time would be Left4Dead.

That would imply that it's not as good as everyone says, which isn't the case.
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Post by: TripleA on July 03, 2010, 04:24:57 PM
Alan Wake was never going to sell because honestly it doesn't have a lot of mass appeal. And I think Max Payne is pretty much one of the most over-rated series of all time but at least it hit at the right time with the right gimmick which was bullet time.

The more direct issue with Microsoft is whether they want or understand how to broaden the profile of their console beyond just the shooter box. (Although this is the perfect generation to be a shooter box if that is what you are going to be)

The most overrated series of all time would be Left4Dead.

That would imply that it's not as good as everyone says

It's not.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 03, 2010, 04:30:14 PM
Mmm...yeah, it is.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 03, 2010, 04:35:24 PM
Maybe your version contains some great/innovative/revolutionary gameplay.

Mine? nope.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on July 03, 2010, 04:39:22 PM
Maybe your version contains some great/innovative/revolutionary gameplay.

Mine? nope.

Yeah, you probably picked up the wrong one then. It's a common mistake, from what I've heard. See, you've got to get the one where you and three friends have to fight your way through various levels filled with hordes of zombies and special zombies that mix things up. It's always and exciting, thrilling experience and no two games ever play out quite the same, but you've got to make sure that you get the right one. It's called "Left 4 Dead", it's the one with the "4" in it, not "For". That throws some people off.
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Post by: Great Rumbler on July 03, 2010, 05:11:06 PM
Left 4 Dead is an incredibly shallow but fun coop game. It's good but pretty overrated IMO.

L4D2 improved on a lot of areas that the first game lacked.

L4D2 is better in pretty much every way, yeah, but the first game isn't that far behind. I played some levels on expert recently and it's pretty amazing. The level of tension is shot through the roof and every little mistake is costly, it's pretty great.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 03, 2010, 05:43:30 PM
i think they throw too many special infected at you in l4d2, and the tension factor is lower, it's more constant panic at the flood
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 04, 2010, 10:19:43 PM
Maybe your version contains some great/innovative/revolutionary gameplay.

Mine? nope.

Yeah, you probably picked up the wrong one then. It's a common mistake, from what I've heard. See, you've got to get the one where you and three friends have to fight your way through various levels filled with hordes of zombies and special zombies that mix things up. It's always and exciting, thrilling experience and no two games ever play out quite the same, but you've got to make sure that you get the right one. It's called "Left 4 Dead", it's the one with the "4" in it, not "For". That throws some people off.

Oh that's the one I got.

And it still sucks complete ass.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 04, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
Well...I guess it's just you then.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 04, 2010, 10:37:42 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one completely unimpressed with L4D.
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 04, 2010, 10:41:19 PM
:patel
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 04, 2010, 10:48:29 PM
Triple A Sucks
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: TripleA on July 04, 2010, 10:57:33 PM
Anyways, I think more NPD numbers are coming next week  :D
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 04, 2010, 10:58:05 PM
L4D isnt really my kind of game, its a bit too hardcore and scary for me. But calling it bad? Hell no, its a really well made game for sure.

Then again Im sure its a blast with 3 other players. Ive only ever played with 1 other dude before.

Actually, I won a copy of L4D2 for xbox, but none of my friends have it. As a result I havent really given it much of a go. If anyone has the game and would like to play/give me a few pointers Id much appreciate it  :D
Title: Re: NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 04, 2010, 10:59:48 PM
L4D isnt really my kind of game, its a bit too hardcore and scary for me. But calling it bad? Hell no, its a really well made game for sure.

Then again Im sure its a blast with 3 other players. Ive only ever played with 1 other dude before.

If you're not playing with three other people, then your'e not really playing it. AI teammates suck big time.
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Post by: The Sceneman on July 04, 2010, 11:01:16 PM
thats what I hear... all you guys play on PC though, right? I have both games on 360.
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Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 04, 2010, 11:03:34 PM
i have l4d2 on 360
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Post by: iconoclast on July 04, 2010, 11:08:57 PM
AI teammates suck big time.

They sure are useful for aimbotting special infected across the map though. :D