THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: magus on July 05, 2010, 05:17:32 AM

Title: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: magus on July 05, 2010, 05:17:32 AM
http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/news/hardcore-gamers-wrong-10-years.html
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Microsoft's Director of Policy and Enforcement for Xbox LIVE Stephen Toulouse has hit out at the hardcore gamers who have raised concerns about Microsoft's upcoming motion control interface Kinect, saying that they have "kinda been wrong a lot for the past ten years".

"I have one thing to say to the hardcore gamer who says Kinect has nothing for them," said Toulouse while discussing concerns about Kinect on Major Nelson's latest podcast. "Those games will have achievements, so don't tell me you're not going to play at least some of them, you hardcore gamers out there. I know you will."

But Toulouse later suggested that the hardcore audience, who largely expect Kinect to underperform and under deliver when it launches in November, had been "wrong a lot" about market trends and successes "for the past ten years",

"Let's go back and look at the track record of the hardcore gamer," he continued.

"Shipping a console with an Ethernet port? Oh, it'll never succeed. Paying for multiplayer? Oh no, that's not good. I don't like avatars; I won't buy anything that goes to my avatar. The Wii... I mean no offence hardcore gamers, you've kinda been wrong a lot for the past ten years.

"I love you and I'm a hardcore gamer and I've been wrong too. I was the one who thought the DS was kinda gimmicky and probably wasn't going to take off. I was obviously insanely wrong about that. Give it a chance."

Will you be giving Kinect a chance? Let us know by leaving a comment below.
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: maxy on July 05, 2010, 06:08:27 AM
Kinect could have some interesting achievements.And it could take a picture of you when you unlock achievement.

Personally i don't care about them but apparently there are tons of people that care.Various forums are full of posts about "need help with achievement x".Releasing a game today without achievements is "lol,no achievements,shit game,meh",if somebody told me that 10 years ago i would laugh at him.

Unlocking achievements is a game now,"game within a game"...



Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: TripleA on July 05, 2010, 10:16:05 AM
Sony's still arrogant as ever.
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: demi on July 05, 2010, 11:13:15 AM
The hardcore gamer already has interest in Dance Central

You see that shit? That's so badass
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: iconoclast on July 05, 2010, 02:11:18 PM
I won't own a Kinect until long after it's dead.

"Those games will have achievements, so don't tell me you're not going to play at least some of them, you hardcore gamers out there. I know you will."

 :lol Who is he talking to here? The 30 people who literally play every single game that comes out and have 250,000+ gamerscore? Everyone else still has plenty of shovelware to choose from for easy achievements, no need to resort to Kinect for more.
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: maxy on July 05, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
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Everyone else still has plenty of shovelware to choose from for easy achievements, no need to resort to Kinect for more.

Don't worry you can always hide Kinect in your basement,use another gamertag as well :ninja


But...

(http://i49.tinypic.com/29wpkc6.jpg)

Will you be able to resist?

 :smug
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: brawndolicious on July 05, 2010, 04:18:29 PM
Achievement whores are a subset of the subset of hardcore gamers.
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: TripleA on July 05, 2010, 04:46:56 PM
He's unarguably correct. Hardcore gamers are traditionally wrong about most market trends.

(http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/360-hd-dvd-add-on.jpg)
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: Trent Dole on July 05, 2010, 06:14:12 PM
Beta was better than VHS, man. :teehee
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: M3wThr33 on July 05, 2010, 09:15:18 PM
He's unarguably correct. Hardcore gamers are traditionally wrong about most market trends.

(http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/360-hd-dvd-add-on.jpg)

I don't see how that relates to gaming. That's a failed movie format.

Plus I remember the dumb Xbox collective swooning over the HD DVD format and declaring it to be the death of Blu Ray. Regardless the majority of that fervor was from within the hardcore A/V community where there were constant arguments over bitrate and compression of each format.

But specs never drive a format. Studio support and politics do. Studios didn't want to support a strictly-region-free format. Simple bullshit like that.
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: Wario64 on July 06, 2010, 01:04:25 PM
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Everyone else still has plenty of shovelware to choose from for easy achievements, no need to resort to Kinect for more.

Don't worry you can always hide Kinect in your basement,use another gamertag as well :ninja


But...

(http://i49.tinypic.com/29wpkc6.jpg)

Will you be able to resist?

 :smug

the box art should just say 'requires kinect sensor for 1000/1000 achievement points'
Title: Re: is demi real name stephen toulouse?
Post by: chronovore on July 08, 2010, 03:50:01 AM
The hardcore gamer already has interest in Dance Central

You see that shit? That's so badass
Christ. Demi and I may have to have a dance-off.