THE BORE
General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Ichirou on July 06, 2010, 08:40:57 PM
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Wow, the voice acting on this sucks, other than Liam Neeson, Ron Perlman, and the President (who I'm pretty sure is Caligula himself). All the other NPCs are awful. NPCs and characters all look ugly as fuck. Dialogue is stilted and terrible.
Guess I've been spoiled by Bioware. Wow, papangus. This am fuck bad scrpting and talking.
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welcome to bethesda games.
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Assassin's Creed 2 is way better than this. AC2 is one of the top three games I've played this gen (other two are Bayonetta and Mass Effect 2).
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Fallout 3 poops all over Assassin's Creed.
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V.A.T.S. feels like it was pasted on top of a shooter mechanic. It feels very poorly implemented, especially the way you're pulled out of it after every attack.
Willco, AC1, maybe. Not AC2.
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V.A.T.S. is awesome.
Also, get PC version for mods, filthy console poor.
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Your opinion is wrong.
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welcome to bethesda games.
You mean welcome to american games.
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welcome to bethesda games.
You mean welcome to american games.
>implying that Japanese games have good writing
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V.A.T.S. is awesome.
Also, get PC version for mods, filthy console poor.
Me am no having PC, me am owning netbook only.
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Fallout 3 poops all over Assassin's Creed.
Agreed, even if Assasins Creed 2 is better than the first, Fallout is still miles in front of it.
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Fallout 3 poops all over Assassin's Creed.
Agreed, even if Assasins Creed 2 is better than the first, Fallout is still miles in front of it.
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man, i'm starting to think the gaming board just isn't for me any more
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man, i'm starting to think the gaming board just isn't for me any more
Why? You am like Fallout 3's voices papangu?
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Fallout 3 gets the thumbs up seal of approval
So does AC2
LEAVE THIS THREAD
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I maddddde this thread
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LEAVE
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Ichi, superior PC version is the solution to your problem. Although the 360 port is by far the best version available on consoles, it can't quite match the glorious experience of the platform for which the game is intended.
Awesome PC community have already significantly upgraded most of the graphics and fixed many of the niggling bugs. There are tons of excellent user-made content too. It's not hyperbole to say that Fallout 3 gets better everyday on the PC.
Saving Assassin's Creed 2 wiped out like half of my save games on my 360. Plus it sucked.
SMH at this weak attempt to spread sfud
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As I said before, I don't own a PC. For games like Fallout 3 and Dragon Age, the 360 is my last, best hope.
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shitbin
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I'm torn between starting this or an Assassin's Creed game.
Well I actually like the AC games more than FO3 but you should rent Assassin's Creed 1 or 2. You can beat them in a few days and once you finish the few side-missions, there's nothing to do. Oh and you absolutely have to play AC1 before the sequel.
What are you looking for though? They're totally different games.
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As I said before, I don't own a PC. For games like Fallout 3 and Dragon Age, the 360 is my last, best hope.
Ignore the PC fanboys. All of these titles are more than playable on a 360.
As far as Fallout 3 and AC 2 that is no contest. Play Fallout 3.
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Dragon Age was definitely playable on 360 and I loved it. Fallout 3 is playable as well. I just think V.A.T.S. feels tacked on and the voice acting/scripting is undeniably below par thus far.
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The voice acting and scripting is poor but that describes pretty much every bethesda game from the time that company started.
The pull of Fallout 3 is the world rather than the specifics of an individual story.
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Are Asus gaming laptops affordable in Japan? Most WRPGS tend to fare better on PCs because that's what the devs themselves play on.
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the only thing i can say i really enjoy about Fallout 3 is exploring the wasteland. luckily thats good enough to justify playing
the combat is trash and so are the missions when they involve combat. throw godmode on and don't waste your time with leveling or any of that bullshit and just enjoy roaming around and finding shit.
edit: oh, 360? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rofl
nevermind then
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Fallout 3 is the best game ever. People who don't like are the people who like sports games.
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AC2 is also pretty cool zone.
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Fallout 3 is the best game ever. People who don't like are the people who like sports games.
Well, like most Japanese, Ichi is pretty fond of water sports.
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Are Asus gaming laptops affordable in Japan? Most WRPGS tend to fare better on PCs because that's what the devs themselves play on.
If I was gonna spend a few hundred bucks on a gaming machine I'd buy a PSTriple or a Wii, not a gaming laptop.
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welcome to bethesda games.
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Are Asus gaming laptops affordable in Japan? Most WRPGS tend to fare better on PCs because that's what the devs themselves play on.
If I was gonna spend a few hundred bucks on a gaming machine I'd buy a PSTriple or a Wii, not a gaming laptop.
But you could only watch 3D pr0n on a PC!
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Fallout 3 is easily my most played 360 game. Love it.
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love this game
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Hey Ichi, you know who else didn't like Fallout 3? There was only one other person, and it was Methodis. Yeah, that's right. Welcome to Shittown, population: 2.
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Where did I say I didn't like it? I only said the dialogue and voice acting was terrible and that V.A.T.S. feels like it was pasted on top of typical shooter mechanics. :lol
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don't bother with a pc, since you have a 360. most pc games are on 360 and even if they're better it's not worth 800 dollars unless you don't have a 360 or want the pc to replace 360. get a wii instead. it has japafag gaming you crave. super mario galaxy will make you happy.
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I waited well over a year to be able to play the game on PC. Since I'm on a netbook, I have to play on lower settings and can't take advantage of all the mods fully, but just being able to ditch Bethesda's shit-ugly character models/faces for better fan-made ones is worth it alone. You can even play the game with a 360 controller and it has achievements if you play with GFW (I have it disabled for the mods).
Back when I played Morrowind, I modded the shit out of the visuals and replaced all the character models and textures. IIRC they not only looked better, but used less polys than the originals.
The one thing I haven't messed with yet is the motorcycle mod. Also saw a bunch of sex mods...you can become a pimp and sell prostitutes (didn't the original Fallouts do this?) for shitloads of caps fast.
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I dunno, I could listen to Malcom McDowell speak for hours. In fact, I probably did since I ran around with the radio tuned to the government station most of the time.
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Can somebody direct me to a list of essential FO3 mods? There are a ton at FO Nexus, but I don't know which are worth getting.
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and that V.A.T.S. feels like it was pasted on top of typical shooter mechanics. :lol
You have that backwards. Shooter mechanics were pasted on top of VATS.
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Can somebody direct me to a list of essential FO3 mods? There are a ton at FO Nexus, but I don't know which are worth getting.
Just bring up the list of all the mods on FO Nexus and then sort by downloads. You should be able to get most of the ones you want by searching through the first ten pages or so.
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Can somebody direct me to a list of essential FO3 mods? There are a ton at FO Nexus, but I don't know which are worth getting.
Just bring up the list of all the mods on FO Nexus and then sort by downloads. You should be able to get most of the ones you want by searching through the first ten pages or so.
One of the most popular mods is a nude mod. PC gamers. :-\
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Can somebody direct me to a list of essential FO3 mods? There are a ton at FO Nexus, but I don't know which are worth getting.
Just bring up the list of all the mods on FO Nexus and then sort by downloads. You should be able to get most of the ones you want by searching through the first ten pages or so.
One of the most popular mods is a nude mod. PC gamers. :-\
PC gamers 8)
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FOOK looks like the best overhaul mod. Everything else seems like fluff.
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What are the best textural/lighting mods? There are so many texture packs that I don't even know which one to use.
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Fellout is pretty good.
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i liked it a lot, but i'm sick of it.
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:lol Assassin's Creed
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:lol Assassin's Creed
Admittedly, not a game for someone who still occasionally engages in recreational feces tossing such as yourself, Arvie. 8)
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:o
You mean to tell me that women won't bang me after just a couple of two minute conversations?
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But I can't risk my license for roofies. :fbm
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:lol
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In other news, game is still fun, script and voice acting is still fucking awful, dcharlie is still a crybaby because I refuse to hang out with him.
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Why would you care?
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Because I was trolling dcharlie? Also, notice that I didn't say "anyone." I said "you."
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Have you started playing Fallout 3 yet?
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Between this game and all the expansions I put something like 80-90 hours into it... combat gets really boring and repetitive in the endgame, but it's still an awesome game. The thrill is wandering around the world, discovering all this stuff ranging from the slightly scary and moribund, to goofy stuff... all sorts of easter eggs and neat little touches abound in the world. I like this style of american RPG (super nonlinear and much more sandboxy, but still have somewhat of a plot and reasonably deep mechanics) over Bioware's stuff honestly.
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tbh, I think I'd like it a lot more if I had the ability to turn off the voices of unimportant npcs while keeping those of the important characters/big-name actors (Malcolm McDowell, Liam Neeson). Ain't bad, though.
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I just started playing it again last week. In spite of being 120 hours in I still find go to do something, then get sidetracked for hours. What an incredible time-sink.
Also, AC1 = Fallout 3 >>>>> AC2.
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About the battle mechanics, even after playing three times I still enjoy infiltrating the Bethesda Ruins. Not sure why its so polarizing but I love the fuck out of the mixture of VATS and real time mechanics.
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dcharlie is still a crybaby because I refuse to hang out with him.
i've been in your room... or at least... outside it in the bushes for 12 hours.
Hah, there are no bushes outside my room. :smug
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This game is pretty boring so far. smh at weapons breaking.
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Not sure why its so polarizing but I love the fuck out of the mixture of VATS and real time mechanics.
Because dumb people thought they could play it like a shooter. I think one of the flaws New Vegas is making is actually trying to make it a true shooter in that engine.
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Not sure why its so polarizing but I love the fuck out of the mixture of VATS and real time mechanics.
Because dumb people thought they could play it like a shooter. I think one of the flaws New Vegas is making is actually trying to make it a true shooter in that engine.
Ehhh, I mostly played it like an RPG.... but really, in the endgame it's like... see enemy, hit RB to go into VATS, target the head till your AP runs out... if enemy isn't dead, run and hide for a bit till you build your AP up, then repeat.
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Not sure why its so polarizing but I love the fuck out of the mixture of VATS and real time mechanics.
Because dumb people thought they could play it like a shooter. I think one of the flaws New Vegas is making is actually trying to make it a true shooter in that engine.
Ehhh, I mostly played it like an RPG.... but really, in the endgame it's like... see enemy, hit RB to go into VATS, target the head till your AP runs out... if enemy isn't dead, run and hide for a bit till you build your AP up, then repeat.
I think that's the way most people played it but if I was to pick a flaw with the game, I think its not making the combat even more tactical but I understand why they made the decision they did for accessibility. Same with New Vegas. I just think trying to turn the game into a true fps game only exposes how poor it is in that regard.
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I found the game became more tactical once you built up some good perks and equipment. Especially getting good at stealth combined with the perk that refills your AP if you kill the enemy while in VATS. Pity all this happens only when you're getting into the higher levels. I guess it helps keep the game fresh though.
This game is pretty boring so far. smh at weapons breaking.
I thought the game was crap when I started. I even re-did my first character and started over after spending about 10 hours on the game. I think it took 15 hours or so before I started to enjoy it.
Thinking VATS was dumb, I tried playing it as a shooter at first and constantly ran out of ammo. Once I started using VATS exclusively the game suddenly became fun for me. It's such an odd mix of a game, but maybe it'll click with you if you can put up with it long enough.
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Can't wait to get this on pc so when I replay it I can cheat and make my character's stats so high that fighting is a non-issue and I concentrate on what I like to do in the game: explore, sneak around, and convince someone to do my bidding. Bad combat is a non-issue when you can kill everything in one hit.
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Can't wait to get this on pc so when I replay it I can cheat and make my character's stats so high that fighting is a non-issue and I concentrate on what I like to do in the game: explore, sneak around, and convince someone to do my bidding. Bad combat is a non-issue when you can kill everything in one hit.
i'm close to liking you again. keep having good opinions.
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thank you honey
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One thing they could do to really improve the combat is make it not feel like your character is skating on molasses-covered ice. Make it feel like you have some actual momentum (ie: bad company 2).
The other problem is that this game, being mostly an RPG, has to reward you more for your stats and loot than for your headshot-skill. It's pretty annoying when you do three headshots on a mutant with your hunting rifle and he still has half health. I think with New Vegas they may make it more important what weapons you use against what enemies (especially on hardcore mode). It would be a nice change not to have to approach every enemy like a spreadsheet.
Can't wait to get this on pc so when I replay it I can cheat and make my character's stats so high that fighting is a non-issue and I concentrate on what I like to do in the game: explore, sneak around, and convince someone to do my bidding. Bad combat is a non-issue when you can kill everything in one hit.
Stealth was worse than combat. There were very few places where you could even do that and they were usually part of the story. Persuasion was also really rare.
If you can't enjoy the combat for what it is (VATS and inventory management) than you're going to skip like 99% of the game.
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I think I will still cheat to make one hit kills possible. Even if persuasion is rare, you've still got the meat of the game: adventure and side quests. Don't give a shit about fragging some guy. Hell, cheating would have made the part at Washington Monument/White House more bearable.
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Combat was never especially hard once you started leveling. And removing what small challenge existed there isn't my idea of fun. But to each his own.
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People appreciating different game elements from you = trolling?
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Combat was never especially hard once you started leveling. And removing what small challenge existed there isn't my idea of fun. But to each his own.
its not that the combat was hard
it's that the combat sucked
hard
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Eh, it had its moments. I certainly liked it when I first encountered the fire ants and they were slaughtering me left and right. :lol
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nope, it sucked all the time
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The only reason I brought it up isn't because I thought it sucked -- though it was slightly disappointing due to the rpg nature of the game, but vats still helped it feel like an rpg -- but because I like the exploration and questing more than the combat. By making the combat almost completely out of the way, I get to enjoy what I like even more.
I never managed to beat Fallout 3 because Bethesda is ran by fucking idiots who didn't allow you to keep playing the game once you beat the main story, but whenever I get Fallout 3 GOTY Edition for pc, I'm going all the way out whenever I play it.
Can't wait.
Next time you play Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, hack the console so you get 9999 xp points, and become a behemoth. Watch the game become a hundred times funner. I'm not even kidding.
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i don't know what you guys are talking about
once i leveled up high enough i hardly ever used vats, and i was sniping death claws across vast stretches of land just fine
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I never managed to beat Fallout 3 because Bethesda is ran by fucking idiots who didn't allow you to keep playing the game once you beat the main story
maybe you don't remember this, but i remember a lot of people whining about there being no distinct finish to oblivion, so bethesda decided to have a definite ending in their next game
bethesda aren't run by fucking idiots, in fact every time i've ever heard todd howard in a podcast or read an interview, he seems like a dude really open to criticism and willing to cop to flaws in bethesda games
i swear, some of you will expend endless amounts of energy and write reams of text defending whatever carbon copy plot uguu` of the month is out there, but you fucking nitpick a game like this to death
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Jesus Christ, deathclaws smh
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i swear, some of you will expend endless amounts of energy and write reams of text defending whatever carbon copy plot uguu` of the month is out there, but you fucking nitpick a game like this to death
What are you talking about? This is an equal opportunity gaming forum. Many of us give games like FF13 more guff. Saying "lol can't continue the story" is nowhere near the same thing as saying,"lol ff13 is trash I'm going to sell it." Because it's obvious with at least, people like me and tiesto, we love and have defended the game despite our issues with it.
if it's a flaw, people will bring it up.
if it's a positive, people will bring it up.
There is no bias here.
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i don't know what you guys are talking about
once i leveled up high enough i hardly ever used vats, and i was sniping death claws across vast stretches of land just fine
I always used Ol' Faithful from the Republic of Dave in realtime when VATS accuracy was too low. Easy kill for Raiders and great for picking off mutants too. Also the shotgun didn't require VATS, just aim in the general area of the enemy face and SKEET SKEET SKEET. But yeah, I don't really get the real time complaints. It ain't no CoD but it got the job done.
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i swear, some of you will expend endless amounts of energy and write reams of text defending whatever carbon copy plot uguu` of the month is out there, but you fucking nitpick a game like this to death
What are you talking about? This is an equal opportunity gaming forum. Many of us give games like FF13 more guff. Saying "lol can't continue the story" is nowhere near the same thing as saying,"lol ff13 is trash I'm going to sell it." Because it's obvious with at least, people like me and tiesto, we love and have defended the game despite our issues with it.
if it's a flaw, people will bring it up.
if it's a positive, people will bring it up.
There is no bias here.
lol
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But yeah, I don't really get the real time complaints. It ain't no CoD but it got the job done.
I agree with this.
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i swear, some of you will expend endless amounts of energy and write reams of text defending whatever carbon copy plot uguu` of the month is out there, but you fucking nitpick a game like this to death
What are you talking about? This is an equal opportunity gaming forum. Many of us give games like FF13 more guff. Saying "lol can't continue the story" is nowhere near the same thing as saying,"lol ff13 is trash I'm going to sell it." Because it's obvious with at least, people like me and tiesto, we love and have defended the game despite our issues with it.
if it's a flaw, people will bring it up.
if it's a positive, people will bring it up.
There is no bias here.
lol
Eel: why does fallout 3 and its ilk get picked on ??? ??? ???
me on tales of the abyss:
You said that about Abyss and look how that turned out: shit game with 5 fps overworld. Vesperia owns.
franz on ff13:
beat it. Yeah, the old raging hate for this game was coming back towards the end. :lol
Had no fucking clue what was going on in the ending but parts of it were pretty, I guess. Pretty much sums up the whole game, nothing makes any sense BUT HEY LOOK AT THIS PRETTY CRYSTAL look at it look at it look at it and waves of color and magic shit sparkling and vanille orgasming at everything !!!! Who cares if none of it makes sense when it's all so beautiful!!
Probably gonna trade it in, then pick it up on the cheap sometime later to go back to the good part.
bluetsu on ff13:
I really should just skip them (the thought passed my mind too now that the gang is split up and feels all like a giant tutorial) but for some reason I keep hoping it'll get better. Hell, I gritted my teeth and watch all the Star Ocean 4 cutscenes but this, this feels more mind numbing for some reason (Star Ocean 4 at least had the benefit of having a epic and large scenario being toyed with right at the beginning). The story at the beginning of FFXIII feels absolutely aimless, long and aimless.
me on ff13:
chapters 6-8 were great. 9 sucked, 10 sucked, 11 is fab, 12 sucks, 13 is shit
game am all ovah da place
blue the entire story is aimless
jinfash on resonance of fate:
Ok I just read the Wiki. It's a decent story, I'm surprised, but holy fuck at how they chose to present it. If they opted for a less disconnected set of flashbacks and just unfold story in a normal way it would've been 10 times more effective and less boring.
I'm currently in chapter 10 and I can't believe what they expected me to gather from the story up until this point.
So much for writing blocks of texts defending the subtleties of uguu games. Can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. Keep your delusions to yourself, but don't act like the rest of us don't critique other games just cuz they ain't frag fests.
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I love using my Game Genie to give me unlimited invincibility in Super Mario World because it eliminates the garbage combat at lets me concentrate on what I like about the game: the platform jumping and exploration. Seriously, try it. The game is a million time more funner! :smug
Like that really is the same thing. "combat" in Mario is simply jumping on an enemies head.
Combat in the bulk of 3d wrpgs is flailing around with horrible controls and zero strategy. Pretty fun right? No, it's not. But exploring and questing are! And that's the area most of these games concentrate on to begin with.
[youtube=560,345]8l5zUztMyvo[/youtube]
Look at this deep and fun combat system! So fun! I'd rather one hit kill everything and skip it.
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It would be. Dragon Age owns.
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Nawwwwwww
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Keep my delusions to myself? You got so bent out of shape and butthurt over a little comment you actually searched and pulled single out-of-context comments from threads in an effort to "prove" whatever it is you're trying to prove.
"See, here's me saying something critical this one time! PROOF!"
Really, now.
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Don't worry, Eel. Himu has already been reported for excessive trolling.
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:lol :lol :lol
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This is also why Starcraft sucks. It needs turn-based combat.
I prefer Warcraft, but if you say so!
I don't think you understand what I'm saying at all. I don't think Vamp: Bloodlines combat is bad because it's not command based. I think it sucks because it plays like shit.
I call a spade a spade. Don't care. If it's shit or you don't really enjoy it, but enjoy other parts of the game and can easily get past your issues with it, why not?
Did you do the mining crap in Mass Effect 2 even though it sucked shit and wasn't fun at all?
Hehe.
Sucker. Hacked that shit for maximum resources so I didn't have to do it.
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The bottom line is this:
is it fun?
y/n
If yes: keep doing it
If no: keep doing it if it's not avoidable. if it's avoidable don't do it, but if it's avoidable and completely hackable, whether or not it's shitty getting game dlc that's already on the cart or disc or bypassing some shitty game mechanic, I say go all out.
Fun is all that matters. Mining in ME2 sucks. Fighting crabs and missing despite hitting them sucks. Crappy loose combat sucks. Entirely avoidable by putting in a few digits and numbers? I say do it.
Fun > everything else
But the funny thing is, I only do this with pc games. :lol @ pc developers
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I love using my Game Genie to give me unlimited invincibility in Super Mario World because it eliminates the garbage combat at lets me concentrate on what I like about the game: the platform jumping and exploration. Seriously, try it. The game is a million time more funner! :smug
Like that really is the same thing. "combat" in Mario is simply jumping on an enemies head.
Combat in the bulk of 3d wrpgs is flailing around with horrible controls and zero strategy. Pretty fun right? No, it's not. But exploring and questing are! And that's the area most of these games concentrate on to begin with.
[youtube=560,345]8l5zUztMyvo[/youtube]
Look at this deep and fun combat system! So fun! I'd rather one hit kill everything and skip it.
Bloodlines was made by a crew who had ZERO experience with 3D engines and realtime combat, nevermind that they were so far behind that they had to cut out tons of content and ship a product that was so riddled with bugs that it took years of fan-patching just to make it PLAYABLE. Using that as some kind of example that WRPGs have horrible combat is ridiculous.
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I wasn't using it as example that wrpgs have horrible combat. I was using it as an example of a game the BENEFITS from modifying the game engine to your own desires to make it a more fun experience for you, which The Business apparently does not understand.
Even you've admitted you'd cheat in the later part of Bloodlines to make the experience more fun.
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I wasn't using it as example that wrpgs have horrible combat. I was using it as an example of a game the BENEFITS from modifying the game engine to your own desires to make it a more fun experience for you, which The Business apparently does not understand.
Even you've admitted you'd cheat in the later part of Bloodlines to make the experience more fun.
In the later part, yeah, where it forces you to be a combat-focused character, effectively ignoring the fact that you poured your points into stealth or charm. But I wouldn't plop down a bunch of cheats to start my character off as level 20 though.
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Then what about a combat heavy game like Fallout 3 where charming or sneaking your way isn't always an answer?
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Then what about a combat heavy game like Fallout 3 where charming or sneaking your way isn't always an answer?
If it's a combat heavy game, why would I have neglected getting some combat-oriented skills early on?
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But we're talking about an open-ended game experience. What if it's a combat heavy game that also includes non-combat related skills, making your character gimped by end game?
The fact that it has been said that you can apparently beat Fallout: New Vegas without killing anyone (I read this right?) makes me really excited.
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But we're talking about an open-ended game experience. What if it's a combat heavy game that also includes non-combat related skills, making your character gimped by end game?
Well, I put points into charm with my Fallout 3 character and I still had enough left over to get me through on the combat side as well. Bloodlines is a completely different animal.
I've never even heard of that game.
It's one of the best RPGs of the past decade, despite a preponderance of flaws and a final third that completely tanks.
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Has anyone done a play through as a decimator? kill everything that moves going town to town.
:piss fire ants :piss2
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i didn't think the classes really mattered in fallout 3?
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fallout 3 combat was awesome if you actually cranked up the difficulty instead of playing on pansy difficulty. you actually WOULD have to use strategy because you'd do such a small amount of damage. the early game felt almost like survival horror because you had to creep around since you couldn't take on more than a couple enemies at once. Mutants were almost invincible unless you destroyed their weapons. The larger animals would kill you in 2-3 hits if you didn't cripple them first to keep from getting close. You'd even have to make good use of the available drugs/alcohol to boost your stats. Hell, even at the end of the game deathclaws, yao guis or whatever, and those big-ass crabs could still do a decent job of fucking you up. the challenge and strategy was there if you wanted it.
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I've never actually that with Fallout 3. Never played it on pc.
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fallout 3 combat was awesome if you actually cranked up the difficulty instead of playing on pansy difficulty. you actually WOULD have to use strategy because you'd do such a small amount of damage. the early game felt almost like survival horror because you had to creep around since you couldn't take on more than a couple enemies at once. Mutants were almost invincible unless you destroyed their weapons. The larger animals would kill you in 2-3 hits if you didn't cripple them first to keep from getting close. You'd even have to make good use of the available drugs/alcohol to boost your stats. Hell, even at the end of the game deathclaws, yao guis or whatever, and those big-ass crabs could still do a decent job of fucking you up. the challenge and strategy was there if you wanted it.
You forgot the fire ants.
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i played it on ps3 ffs
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Nothin wrong with ps3 version. Still awesome.
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You forgot the fire ants.
:lol that was the last quest i completed
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The fire ants were tricky as hell. They were fast, they shat fire, and seemed impossible without a heavy dosage of experimentation. For that alone, I could never call Fallout 3's combat shit.
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The fact that it has been said that you can apparently beat Fallout: New Vegas without killing anyone (I read this right?) makes me really excited.
Apparently you can use boxing gloves which are non-lethal and so it's possible in theory to knock out everyone instead of killing them. Probably not a good idea though.
For Fallout 3, the combat is important in the same way it's important in Resident Evil games. It may be slow and janky compared to most other shooters but it works at making you conserve ammo and carry the right equipment. Like I always carried 4-5 primary guns on me and even though they're not necessarily the strongest guns in the game, but if .32 ammo is common and .44 isn't, then you go with Ol' Faithful instead of Lincoln's Repeater. Hell, one of my primary guns was always a dart gun just so that I could cripple enemies that are too big like behemoths.
You're missing out on a lot of the good game design if you're modding your way around the whole resource planning stuff.
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No, we're suckers.
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Why are you bothering with planets that have poor scanner results? No wonder you got so frustrated with it. :lol
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You're saying you liked it? :smug
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No, I'm saying that scanning planets for minerals is more fun than grinding for levels in some embarassing animu JRPG. :smug
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i'm not really sure why you think a mini-game and a game's entire combat system are comparable at all
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No, I'm saying that scanning planets for minerals is more fun than grinding for levels in some embarassing animu JRPG. :smug
You need to scan planets for minerals if you want all your charas to survive the Suicide Mission... most japaneesu RPGs don't require grinding... unless you suck at the genre :smug
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you only need to grind a handful of rich-level planets to get more resources than you ever need. and even then it's still a totally OPTIONAL mini-game. not comparable to fo3's combat system beyond OMG BOTH R BORING
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Never compared Fallout 3's combat to Mass Effect 2's mining. ???
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hacking stats would take away some joy of rpgs for me. Even if combat is often messy, I still enjoy seeing my character improve. In Deus Ex when you start, melee weapons and pretty much shit and if you want to play stealth, you have to use the stun prod that has limited ammo. When you pump that stat up, you get to the point where you can take out enemies by whacking them in the back once with a baton. Plus not being master of everything makes you focus on a certain play style, which is part of that whole role playing aspect of it.
Combat in Fallout 3 was fine, I thought. I mostly got through the game by using VATs on faces, or going up close with a shotgun. I like what they're doing with New Vegas. Sounds like there are enemies that don't all succumb to bullet to the face. Different types of weapons and areas you shoot will matter now. Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things. Btw, The non-lethal option doesn't sound like it changes combat at all. You use boxing gloves instead of fisto and a bean bag shotgun instead of regular ammo.
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Combat in Fallout 3 is totally fine.
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I'm going to keep playing this game cuz people say it takes about ten hours or so to pick up. I ran into a couple of hideously deformed Super Mutants. One of them was chasing me with a melee weapon and the other one fired a missile and hit him instead of me, then I destroyed the missile launcher and was able to take the other one out.
Now I have no ammo left and I'm in the middle of the wasteland. Fuck.
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I'm going to keep playing this game cuz people say it takes about ten hours or so to pick up. I ran into a couple of hideously deformed Super Mutants. One of them was chasing me with a melee weapon and the other one fired a missile and hit him instead of me, then I destroyed the missile launcher and was able to take the other one out.
Now I have no ammo left and I'm in the middle of the wasteland. Fuck.
I came to a point near an old drive-in movie theater where there was a small house. Some woman was being held prisoner and there were a couple of super mutants, one with a fucking chain gun, that would just whip my ass every time I got near. Never did go back.
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Now I have no ammo left and I'm in the middle of the wasteland. Fuck.
The words of Ichi as a young boy growing up in Puerto Rico.
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Have you ever even traveled outside of Canada?
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Most WRPGs don't require cheating unless you suck at the genre. :smug
I hope this wasn't aimed at me - I beat Fable, Jade Empire, ME1 and 2, Fallout 3, etc. without cheating... not gonna cheat when I go through Witcher, Planescape, FO1 and 2 later in the year. In fact I never cheat in games. I will break them tho, especially if they are of the type where the designers intend you to break (certain NIS/tri-Ace games).
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I'm going to keep playing this game cuz people say it takes about ten hours or so to pick up. I ran into a couple of hideously deformed Super Mutants. One of them was chasing me with a melee weapon and the other one fired a missile and hit him instead of me, then I destroyed the missile launcher and was able to take the other one out.
Now I have no ammo left and I'm in the middle of the wasteland. Fuck.
Take on some dungeons, first... in dungeons, enemies don't respawn, plus you'll find a ton of loot in them... especially health packs. I was having trouble with the game, but I remember discovering a hospital in the downtown area, that had a TON of health packs, that really helped me out...
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What's the easiest way to get caps?
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What's the easiest way to get caps?
Just hittup' some metros or dungeon areas, kill enemies and sell their equipment. Building up the Repair skill is great for this since you can take multiple weapons that you find and merge them and sell them for more caps.
The Super Market thats near the starting area is a nice place to go to first (and doing some of Moira's quests will get you familiar with the locales).
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I musta missed the supermarket, I headed straight toward this town headed on top of an overpass called Arefu.
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Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things.
LOL I didn't hear about this. Shit sequel confirmed
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Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things.
LOL I didn't hear about this. Shit sequel confirmed
The hard core mode is entirely optional.
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Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things.
LOL I didn't hear about this. Shit sequel confirmed
They're also bringing back the multiple ammo types (AP, Hollow Point? and others. Specific ammo for laser weapons too). I loved the fuck out of the AP Gun? in Fallout 2, that shit would fuck shit up.
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Ohh I thought that was just going to be a uniform change. Phew. Nothing ruins questing and looting like a stupid weight limit
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Also, I think hardcore mode and adding weight to ammo will effect things.
LOL I didn't hear about this. Shit sequel confirmed
It's not the default mode and it is up to the player if they want to use it. It adds weight to ammo, has dehydration, and things like that. They mentioned that the only real reward for playing this way (other than player satisfaction) is an achievement. Plus, you can try it out, and if it is too much, you can switch to the normal mode mid-game.
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Adding weight to ammo? Ew.
fallout 3 combat was awesome if you actually cranked up the difficulty instead of playing on pansy difficulty. you actually WOULD have to use strategy because you'd do such a small amount of damage. the early game felt almost like survival horror because you had to creep around since you couldn't take on more than a couple enemies at once. Mutants were almost invincible unless you destroyed their weapons. The larger animals would kill you in 2-3 hits if you didn't cripple them first to keep from getting close. You'd even have to make good use of the available drugs/alcohol to boost your stats. Hell, even at the end of the game deathclaws, yao guis or whatever, and those big-ass crabs could still do a decent job of fucking you up. the challenge and strategy was there if you wanted it.
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At level 27 I just did Vault 87 with my gauss rifle and Chinese stealth armour on very hard and it was VERY HARD. Three of four super mutants on top of you in a confined space ... goddamn.
And don't even talk to me about Albino Radscorpions.
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What's the easiest way to get caps?
Stealing works well too if you're dying a lot. You'll also be the baddest bad-ass in the wastelands because of all the negative karma.
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bobobobobo I wanna play as a good guy. I'm even avoiding lockpicking doors and stealing shit from people's houses.
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Just give water to homeless people and it all balances out.
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They want unpolluted water, though, dunno where to get that.
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Your robot pet in Megaton gives you filtered water
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If I remember right, it's much easier to build positive karma quickly than negative (give purified water or donate to a priest). So you can be a total prick, and just give a few bucks to the church to fix it if you need to. Being evil also means you'll get easy access to a couple of places later on. I can't recall being denied entry anywhere for being evil.
Lockpicking (and hacking terminals) is also a great way to build experience without getting your ass handed to you in the wastelands. I think if you up the difficulty before lockpicking or hacking you may get more experience also.
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I made it through the whole game without building much negative karma, or really needing too. You get tons of loot and caps just from fighting random bandits in the wasteland, which doesn't give you karma either way. Most of the time, you don't really come across much that's worth stealing in people's homes and in towns. Locked stuff in dungeons or abandoned buildings doesn't give you karma either and that's where you can pick up even more loot, a good place to start is the supermarket. Talk to the woman in the general store in Megaton and she'll give you a quest to head down there and check it out.
So, really, just don't worry about stealing unless you're doing very poorly early on and in that case it's easy to build your karma back up later on when you're more settled.
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Why do people think it takes 10 hours to pick up? It takes like 30-40 minutes to an hour to out of the vault and into Megaton. And Megaton rocks. Lots of stuff happening there.
Ichi: Here's a quick tip for early game shenanigans: kill the guys selling guns and shit outside megaton. Take their weapons, armor, money...and it'll last you a while. You'll get evil points, but you can balance that out with the bum trick.
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One of the best things to do when you first get to Megaton is to talk to everybody, some of them will give you quests and that will give you something to focus on in the early going. If you just breeze through Megaton and then run out into the wastes, it can make the game feel a bit aimless.
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You live in a post apocalyptic world, lockpicking is a necessary evil :smug
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Do the Wasteland Survival Guide. It will get you up to grips and you WILL explore a giant portion of the wastes. Great for money, loot, exploration, the whole shebang.
You live in a post apocalyptic world, lockpicking is a necessary evil :smug
I hate lockpicking in this game.
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One of the best things to do when you first get to Megaton is to talk to everybody, some of them will give you quests and that will give you something to focus on in the early going. If you just breeze through Megaton and then run out into the wastes, it can make the game feel a bit aimless.
Who plays an rpg without talking to everybody to begin with? That's no rpg fan. That's a failure.
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I hate lockpicking in this game.
I loved it. The lockpicking mini' in Oblivion was more of a pain in the ass. I liked how this one required a bit of a touch or feel for the sweet spot.
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I hate lockpicking in this game.
yeah? well i hate you
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I can pick a Very Hard lock without breaking my pick :punch
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I hate lockpicking in this game.
I loved it. The lockpicking mini' in Oblivion was more of a pain in the ass. I liked how this one required a bit of a touch or feel for the sweet spot.
ugh as someone who plays as ninjas and thieves and rogues, lockpicking kinda has to be my expertise. But man is it annoying in FO3, especially since picks are in limited supply due to the setting. I'd rather just have oldschool style where, so long as your stat is higher than the roll required to open the lock it automatically opens. These mini games in my arr pee gee's are mad homo.
At least the lock picking is better than the hacking, which is terrible.
Fallout 3 really isn't designed for sneaky player in mind. Is New Vegas going to do this better?
I hate lockpicking in this game.
yeah? well i hate you
I can never win you over. what's a guy gotta do to get summa dat fistful sugar? :'(
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pull up developer console
type player.additem <00000a> <999>
there you go, never worry about lock picking again
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well i played on 360, which has no console.
But when i get goty edition you can bet your ass I will do that.
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I hate lockpicking in this game.
I loved it. The lockpicking mini' in Oblivion was more of a pain in the ass. I liked how this one required a bit of a touch or feel for the sweet spot.
Fallout 3 really isn't designed for sneaky player in mind. Is New Vegas going to do this better?
I think you can easily play as a very sneaky character in this game, to the point where it breaks the game when you have the Chinese Stealth Suit (that gives you +5 Stealth and +5 Chameleon? I think). Not sure if they're gonna tweak the abilities in New Vegas.
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Well of course, I generally meant that playing a sneaky character isn't particularly fun because of crappy lock picking and hacking.
Is the Chinese Stealth Suit that piece of armor you get at that one place where you fight a BUNCH of Chinese people? Fuck I don't remember. I didn't even manage to beat the game!
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I never had any problem with picking locks or with running out of lockpicks. I could usually find enough lying around to take care of any locks I came across and was good enough at the lockpicking system that I didn't loose too many during my attempts.
The hacking minigame is much easier once you realize that backing out before the final attempt resets it. Also look for brackets hidden in the code, that'll take away one of the choices or give you an extra try [I think different brackets do different things].
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Well of course, I generally meant that playing a sneaky character isn't particularly fun because of crappy lock picking and hacking.
Is the Chinese Stealth Suit that piece of armor you get at that one place where you fight a BUNCH of Chinese people? Fuck I don't remember. I didn't even manage to beat the game!
You get it in the Operation Anchorage expansion. Not sure if you played through it. You also get the fucking awesome Gauss Rifle from that expansion <3
But about the Chinese Stealth Suit. With 100 Stealth and the Chinese Stealth Suit, you can go into sneak mode in broad daylight and slip grenades/mines into Enclave/Mutant soldiers pockets, sneak away and watch them explode. They'll never see you.
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I only played Fallout 3 vanilla.
Are the expansions good? Honestly I don't even care about the expansions. I just want to be able to continue the game after the main story.
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I only played Fallout 3 vanilla.
Are the expansions good? Honestly I don't even care about the expansions. I just want to be able to continue the game after the main story.
You'll want the Broken Steel expansion if you want to play beyond the ending. As far as the others, the only one I enjoyed was The Pitt. Operation Zeta was just tubes ala FFXIII, Operation Anchorage was boring and I couldn't get into Point Lookout at all.
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Sounds like poop. I just want new features added to the main game.
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Broken Steel
The Pitt
Point Lookout
Ignore the others.
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I only played Fallout 3 vanilla.
Are the expansions good? Honestly I don't even care about the expansions. I just want to be able to continue the game after the main story.
Well Broken Steel raises the level cap, adds new perks, and I believe that you can continue exploring after the final mission is complete. It's real nice how those extra ten levels make it so that you can basically get all the good perks in the game.
I hate lockpicking in this game.
It's a lot better than in Oblivion where breaking picks is so easy. I never really had a problem at any level with losing lockpicks as long as I was careful about it. No lock should take you more than 5-10 seconds.
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point outlook is AWESOME. really fun location to explore. some great quests too
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Yeah Point Lookout was my favorite by far
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Are the dlc with the same character or a different or what?
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Are the dlc with the same character or a different or what?
You don't need a new character to play the DLC. Point Lookout is accessed through a boat on the river and The Pitt through a highway tunnel. Broken Steel takes place after the final scene in the F3's storyline.
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Broken Steel
The Pitt
Point Lookout
Ignore the others.
Fixed (aside from stealing the baby at the end of The Pitt then dropping the baby in the poisonous water)