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Title: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 12:23:32 AM
Here's what I'd be interested in for a next-gen Persona game.  Add yer wish lists.  No Himus allowed in this thread.

- P3 took place in a city, P4 took place in inaka (countryside).  P5, I think, should go with an even bigger city, like Tokyo or Osaka, and use a lot of recognizable landmarks.  The game should let you explore a bit more.  An overworld like the one in Sakura Wars 5 would be amazing.

- High school setting is a tradition in Persona games (the only game that hasn't used this setting has been the second half of Persona 2, so this should be kept for P5.  However, I'd like a return of more non-high schooler Persona users, like P3 had (Aigis, Ken, Koromaru), as this adds more variety to the cast.  Maybe have at least one character who's really obsessed with the occult like the school nurse in P3.

- Social links should be expanded a bit more, with more choices in conversations and maybe multiple paths to let you rank up.  I liked P4's idea of having most of your s-links be your party members, but I miss being able to interact with people like the old bookshop owners from P3.

- More school events.  P4 included the school festival (which was sadly missing from P3), so how about other things like sports day?

- P3 Portable lets you make goods during club activities that you can later give to your friends (cell phone straps, banana cupcakes, etc.).  This should definitely be kept for P5 and expanded, if possible, since it's another reason to do the school club s-links.

- A return to the more randomized dungeons of P3.  P4's dungeons weren't nearly as much fun, even if the settings were more unique.  In P3, I could literally spend hours just exploring in the dungeon, leveling up, fusing personas, searching for unique items, doing Elizabeth's quests, etc.

- Return of Elizabeth.  Margaret just wasn't as interesting/amusing.  Return of Philemon too.

- I'm happy with the battle system being the way it is, but it'd be cool if they could figure out how to let you use guns like the first game did.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: demi on July 28, 2010, 12:29:17 AM
- Return to real Meguro music
- More darker theme
- No dating or sims (school theme is ok, just no dating or sims)
- No lyrics in music

Done
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 12:32:13 AM
Agreed with everything you posted except the third part.  I like the social interaction stuff a lot, even the very limited "dating sim" aspect.

I thought P4 was actually darker than P3 in a lot of respects, with all the murders that happen, and especially with how grotesque the actual deaths are.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: demi on July 28, 2010, 12:32:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRlUJEagleQ

:bow
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 12:34:04 AM
Too bad the original Persona has aged so badly. :(
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: demi on July 28, 2010, 12:37:14 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeO823gEys

Wow, real Persona
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 12:39:31 AM
I do agree with you that P3 and P4's battle music is awful. :/

They actually changed the battle music in P3 Portable and the new music is even worse...anyone know if the male character route kept the original battle music at least?
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Bebpo on July 28, 2010, 12:39:42 AM
-Keep the music and art like P3/P4
-Keep the battles like P3/P4 but with new systems
-Make it a real rpg like P1/P2 and not a dungeon crawler
-School life is fine, but add more interactivity to those portions like Tokimeki Memorial
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 28, 2010, 12:41:27 AM
H scenes

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Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 12:42:03 AM
Man, I dig the dungeon crawling, why would you want to get rid of that? :(
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2010, 12:46:49 AM
No s-links
darker story ala Persona 2
traditional rpg formula like persona 2
basically a suped up persona 2 with modernized smt features
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: archie4208 on July 28, 2010, 12:47:05 AM
I'd rather Atlus spend their effort on a new mainline game instead.  SMT4 in glorious HD.  :drool
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: demi on July 28, 2010, 12:47:09 AM
I do agree with you that P3 and P4's battle music is awful. :/

They actually changed the battle music in P3 Portable and the new music is even worse...anyone know if the male character route kept the original battle music at least?

lol. all they had to do was keep the music from the original for Persona PSP and they fucked that up. I mean really.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 28, 2010, 12:47:19 AM
Man, I dig the dungeon crawling, why would you want to get rid of that? :(

The dungeon crawling is about 75% of the game! I wouldn't cut it out completely, but I would like for them to figure out a way to drop that percentage down a bit, without sacrificing gameplay.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2010, 12:51:25 AM
No more Persona for a few more years unless they can freshen up the formula without resorting to slinks.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: bork on July 28, 2010, 12:52:10 AM
-Keep the music and art like P3/P4
-Keep the battles like P3/P4 but with new systems
-Make it a real rpg like P1/P2 and not a dungeon crawler
-School life is fine, but add more interactivity to those portions like Tokimeki Memorial

NO
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: demi on July 28, 2010, 12:58:51 AM
They should just use Digital Devil Saga's system. Those were better than Persona 3 and 4.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 28, 2010, 01:05:24 AM
What do I want? HD graphics.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:05:50 AM
No more Persona for a few more years unless they can freshen up the formula without resorting to slinks.

OP says no Himus in this thread.  gtfo
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Bebpo on July 28, 2010, 01:07:42 AM
-Keep the music and art like P3/P4
-Keep the battles like P3/P4 but with new systems
-Make it a real rpg like P1/P2 and not a dungeon crawler
-School life is fine, but add more interactivity to those portions like Tokimeki Memorial

NO

300 floors wasn't enough for you?
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:12:29 AM
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P4 took place in inaka (countryside).

Ah, our very own "according to keikaku!" incident! thumbs up

- i doubt they'd get away with it but moving it away from school to be set in, say, an office would be interesting though ultimately probably disasterous. Hell, set it in an Eikaiwa (english conversation school). Not that the school setting isn't interesting.

- i don't mind the battle musics in either game, and i think the lyrics add something to the game.

- darker darker darker themes please

- increased consequences of social links, increase play offs against each link set.

- if it has to be a dungeon crawler (which i personally don't mind) , more interesting dungeons would be appreciated :D

- i assume it's still on the PS3? It SHOULD be on a next gen system of some sort and should look the part whilst keeping the art style. Some one dies if this looks like an upscaled PS2 game or it ends up on the PSP (though, hell, i'm at least getting more play time with P3P than i would get at home :( )

 

I've heard plenty of English-speaking Japanese people casually talking about inaka, so I figured an explanation was in order. 8)

I don't really like the Eikaiwa idea, but how about it taking place in an international high school?  That way they could include some foreign Persona users.  Could be interesting.

The office idea is :lol.  I don't think a game where you control a party of salarymen Persona users would do too well, though to have one character like that could be funny.

Regarding social links, I'd like if there were more alternate social links.  In P4, if you chose to join the music club, you'd have one (Sun?) social link, but if you chose the drama club, you'd have another (but still for the same arcana).  That could be fun and would encourage repeat playthroughs on New Game +.

Nothing has been announced regarding, but all rumors I've heard point towards the next Persona being a PS3 release.  I would fucking rage if it got announced for the Wii or something.  This would be the game that would tip the scales towards me buying a Triple, at any rate.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: bork on July 28, 2010, 01:12:57 AM
300 floors wasn't enough for you?

Wasn't?

I'm playing P3 for the first time now!  I like the dungeon crawler aspect, particularly the randomly-generated floors.  Haven't progressed much because I keep replaying where I'm at (still in the beginning), grinding away and getting new stuff.

Maybe by the time I'm done, P4 Portable will be out.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:15:19 AM
What lyte said.  One of the things I disliked about P4 was how much smaller the dungeons were (well, that and how they fucked with the camera) compared to P3's infinite randomized possibilities.

I want a huge 500 floor randomized dungeon with lots of loot, alternate costumes, and quests from Elizabeth/Margaret/Theodor/whoever.  Maybe make the quests more unusual, too, like having certain events take place within the randomized dungeon instead of in the town like P3 and P4 had.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: demi on July 28, 2010, 01:18:25 AM
500 randomized floor dungeon is fine. That's called "post-game content" where I am from
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:19:16 AM
I also want the main character to die at the end, to no one's tears.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:21:53 AM
P3P was the first game in the series with social links and a randomized dungeon.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 28, 2010, 01:23:46 AM
The whole school thing has been played to death, an office/salaryman setting would be nice. Heck, anything other than jr./sr. high school would be welcome.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:24:28 AM
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The office idea is .  I don't think a game where you control a party of salarymen Persona users would do too well, though to have one character like that could be funny.

well yes, though it could be pulled off and could pull in many "grey" gamers! ;)

I dunno - the idea of some "evil corporate system" where you are in some Japanese equivalent of The Office could work! (no)

 

lol, I'm pretty sure most Japanese "grey" gamers would prefer to relive the halcyon days of their youth by playing as teenagers macking on high school girls.

Has there ever been an RPG that had a salaryman-type character as a playable member of your party, actually?  There must've been.

The whole school thing has been played to death, an office/salaryman setting would be nice. Heck, anything other than jr./sr. high school would be welcome.

Persona series has always had a high school setting, though (other than the latter half of P2).  That's one of the staples of the series.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 28, 2010, 01:25:41 AM
I love how RPGs characters in their mid 20's are these weary, grizzled veterans. :lol
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:26:28 AM
I love how RPGs characters in their mid 20's are these weary, grizzled veterans. :lol

And they're constantly being called "old man" by the teenagers in the group. :lol

...

:(
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: demi on July 28, 2010, 01:28:21 AM
They should just make it like TWEWY
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:45:20 AM
That one DID come to mind, but something other than that, that isn't focused on running a corporation?
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: iconoclast on July 28, 2010, 03:21:31 AM
There's nothing in particular that I want from a Persona 5 actually. If they take the P3/4 formula and build on top of it, I'll be happy with that. If they go in another direction, I'll probably be happy with that too since Atlus is awesome. I do love the music in P3 and 4 though and I hope they keep that style for the next game in the series.

But really, I just want a new console SMT game. This generation has been going on for 5 years and Atlus hasn't even announced one yet. I'll even settle for a Wii game at this point.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: bork on July 28, 2010, 03:52:15 AM
You'd think Atlus would have released P3 and P4 for the Wii as well.  Seems like an easy port and more money for them.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Bebpo on July 28, 2010, 05:14:30 AM
You'd think Atlus would have released P3 and P4 for the Wii as well.  Seems like an easy port and more money for them.

No rpg audience on Wii in Japan.  Not worth the brand dilution.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: magus on July 28, 2010, 05:38:55 AM
no more one more
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Third on July 28, 2010, 05:45:42 AM
What do I want? HD graphics.

This.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 05:58:34 AM
no more one more


That would fucking ruin the battle system. NO.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: ch1nchilla on July 28, 2010, 07:32:22 AM
HD graphics, more depth for all the social link shit, optional MINIGAMES for the clubs instead of mini cutscenes, larger overworld, etc. Tokyo. Do it in Tokyo. HD graphics mostly.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: MCD on July 28, 2010, 07:56:14 AM
a good game.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: tiesto on July 28, 2010, 08:52:08 AM
How about make the character a Japanese foreign exchange student in the States? Also, real dungeons not random dungeons.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 08:55:37 AM
How about make the character a Japanese foreign exchange student in the States? Also, real dungeons not random dungeons.

No thanks.  At least the schedules and activities have some semblance to reality to them in P3 and P4.  I wouldn't want to play through whatever Japanese people think American high school is like.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: ch1nchilla on July 28, 2010, 09:44:26 AM
I think having an American (or British or whatever. Foreign.) foreign exchange student in Japan as part of the cast would be cool though.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2010, 09:47:27 AM
Persona won't ever abandon the school setting. It's been part of its identity since day one.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2010, 09:49:17 AM
Also, I want Persona 5 to be on the 3ds to make the hdfags to commit seppuku.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2010, 10:00:35 AM
hauahua
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 10:02:28 AM
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At least the schedules and activities have some semblance to reality to them in P3 and P4

as a brit, i dont feel this at all.

plus - a lack of hot crumpets betwix the buttox :/

It takes place in a Japanese high school.  The schedule, activities, and setting are all as accurate as could be expected considering the designers and writers grew up in Japan.

Set it in another country and you'll have shinto shrines in the middle of Central Park, like in Sakura Wars 5.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 10:02:50 AM
hauahua

I said no filthy Himus in this thread.  Now shoo!
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:16:57 PM
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It takes place in a Japanese high school.  The schedule, activities, and setting are all as accurate as could be expected considering the designers and writers grew up in Japan.

in P3 it seems a bit too lose to be anything - so it doesn't really feel like "school" school. Which isn't entirely a bad thing!

Is there that much in the way of scheduling though? i mean, perhaps it gets more and more involved at the back end of the game (P3) but so far it just seems a bit adhoc (again, not an issue)



You can't max out your social links, and thus get the most powerful personas, if you don't schedule correctly.  Hold off on the non-school s-links until you're in summer break since you won't be able to do the school-related s-links then anyway.  You'll have to reach a proper balance if you want to be able to max them out.  There are actually s-link guides on Gamefaqs that let you max out all links on the first playthrough, which is otherwise nearly impossible.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 28, 2010, 01:28:01 PM
an all-black cast

preferably the cast of what's happening
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:28:24 PM
He's not a playable character, I think that's what ch1nchilla meant.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 28, 2010, 01:35:21 PM
That said, knowing Japan, if they added an American exchange student, it'd probably look like Tiffany from Capcom's old fighting game Rival Schools:

(http://www.toplessrobot.com/tiffany.png)
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: bork on July 28, 2010, 01:38:12 PM
I don't understand how even today, your average American character in anime/Japanese games is always some happy-go-lucky dude or bouncy chick with blonde hair and blue eyes.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: brob on July 28, 2010, 03:01:40 PM
I'd prefer it to be a console game, but seeing as how Atlus has put out SMT4 on DS and P3 on PSP all I really care about is that they don't resort to using the terrible cut-scene format of P3P in an eventual P5.

The battle system, music, visuals, etc. are all cool by me. Maybe they could tone down the whole saving the world thing in favor of a more localized problem (like I thought P4 was going to be up until the end :|).

Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 12:17:57 PM
Strange Journey isn't SMT4, dude.

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You can't max out your social links, and thus get the most powerful personas, if you don't schedule correctly.  Hold off on the non-school s-links until you're in summer break since you won't be able to do the school-related s-links then anyway.  You'll have to reach a proper balance if you want to be able to max them out.  There are actually s-link guides on Gamefaqs that let you max out all links on the first playthrough, which is otherwise nearly impossible.

oh right, we are at crossed purposes then - i was more thinking about school schedules as in "History in the morning, then Chemistry later!"

I actually like the idea of working at getting the links and/or trading off one against the other and certainly don't want to spoil the first play through with a guide. But interesting - never thought about the non-school s-links stuff vs school.



You probably won't be able to max out s-links in your first playthrough (I'm probably going to miss maxing out at least four or five), but here's some tips to help you out:

Some jobs actually let you raise multiple stats (academics, charm, and courage).  Going to the arcade gives you bigger increases on certain stats (Print Club raises your charm, Horror House raises your courrage, Quiz Game raises your academics) than studying, going to the cafe, and doing karaoke.  However, the games are only available on certain nights.

There are two nighttime s-links if you're playing as a guy, four if you're playing as a girl.

Non-school s-links can wait till summer vacation - the 'dying young man' s-link levels up every single time you meet him (I think as long as you have a 'sun' persona card with you), however, so if you are free on Sunday (nobody calls you for an activity), make sure to go to the Naganaki Shrine to do that one.

Do the party member's s-links first (if you're playing as a girl, you will have a ton of those), since after certain events, they become unavailable for a time.  Do the Moon and Fortune s-links every single time you get a chance, since you only have a limited time to do those before they become unavailable.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: brob on July 29, 2010, 12:50:42 PM
Strange Journey isn't SMT4, dude.

Atlus was treating as such in their PR. So I guess they disagree? It's not an important distinction anyway since they probably won't be returning to consoles any time soon.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 01:02:42 PM
Strange Journey isn't SMT4, dude.

Atlus was treating as such in their PR. So I guess they disagree? It's not an important distinction anyway since they probably won't be returning to consoles any time soon.

They never called it SMT4 in their PR. WTF? ???
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 29, 2010, 01:06:22 PM
Lady Gaga soundtrack
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: brob on July 29, 2010, 01:09:15 PM
Strange Journey isn't SMT4, dude.

Atlus was treating as such in their PR. So I guess they disagree? It's not an important distinction anyway since they probably won't be returning to consoles any time soon.

They never called it SMT4 in their PR. WTF? ???
naw, but, like, they planted it in the series like dis: SMT, SMT2, SMT3, SMT:SJ. If you want to get fickle over the exclusion of a number, then great, but it appears atlus considers it main-line and not an off-shoot game like Devil Summoner, DDS and whatever else.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 01:19:23 PM
They never said it was SMT4 yet somehow I'm being fickle for saying it's not SMT4? ???

Yeah, it's a more central part of the SMT series than, say, Devil Survivor, but that's because of the staff involved.  It's still not SMT4, and I'm guessing the real SMT4 will be a console game...probably PS3.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: brob on July 29, 2010, 01:26:07 PM
I'd like to see that happen, but with the market shifting hard on to portables in japan, and the vast increase in development costs on the HD consoles I'd say the odds are rather slim. Strange Journey and P3P, to me, seems indicative that they are moving more stuff to portables.

Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 01:55:46 PM
Strange Journey recycled a lot of material they already had on hand, and P3P is just an enhanced port.  Plus there was news several months back that they were hiring programmers for some big project...hopefully a PS3 Persona or SMT.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: cool breeze on July 29, 2010, 02:12:18 PM
Grandia battle system
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 02:13:16 PM
Get rid of the virgin weeaboo sim shit.  If you're enjoying that and lamenting your lack of a girlfriend at the same time that's a big clue.

I think less than half of the social links are relationship-related.  Get over it, it's a mainstay of the series now.

:patel
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 29, 2010, 02:13:51 PM
Hichimusona
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 02:15:08 PM
Nah, Himuro allegedly hates social links now. :lol

I love them. :heartbeat
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 29, 2010, 03:34:35 PM
Get rid of the virgin weeaboo sim shit.  If you're enjoying that and lamenting your lack of a girlfriend at the same time that's a big clue.

Cohen bringing the real talk to wjrpg.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 29, 2010, 03:42:55 PM
Nah, Himuro allegedly hates social links now. :lol

I love them. :heartbeat

Incorrect.

I love Slinks.

But slinks wouldn't work for another entry without a major overhaul. P4 felt so similar to P3 because of them and same P3 formula in P5 would be a cop out.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: MCD on July 29, 2010, 03:44:20 PM
social links were fine...till you figure out that you can only do one per day or so.

customizing personas is also distinguished mentally-challenged, i don't want to use some lame ass monster or fuse him with another lame ass monster, i just want the default one with fucking abilities. but no, date some whores, read some books and then fuse some demons.

what a boring game.

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Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 08:44:35 PM
Maxing out your s-links lets you create unique personas that are otherwise unavailable to you.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Ichirou on July 29, 2010, 08:45:35 PM
Nah, Himuro allegedly hates social links now. :lol

I love them. :heartbeat

Incorrect.

I love Slinks.

But slinks wouldn't work for another entry without a major overhaul. P4 felt so similar to P3 because of them and same P3 formula in P5 would be a cop out.

WHY DO HIMUS KEEP ENTERING THIS THREAD
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 24, 2011, 09:25:35 PM
- i doubt they'd get away with it but moving it away from school to be set in, say, an office would be interesting though ultimately probably disasterous.

Yeah the office/twentysomething life idea was the first that came to my mind too, sort of like Buffy -> Angel. But apparently everyone in Japan thinks of adults and adult life and especially salarymen as boring and disgusting, including the salarymen themselves, so I guess it wouldn't fly.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: iconoclast on July 24, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
^ Those are all pretty fair complaints, and I agree with most of it. Atlus has been improving the fusion system in recent games (Devil Survivor lets you choose a skill to carry over), so I think they're finally starting to understand that hitting O and X 50000 times is not fun and a complete waste of everyone's time.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Damian79 on July 24, 2011, 11:55:10 PM
I remember why i hate persona games from demi's clip.  Everything takes so long.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: magus on July 25, 2011, 05:13:00 AM
awesom-o you know how social links work right? basicaly you have to reach a certain score each time,you get a better score if you

1) trigger the s.link while being equipped with a persona of the same arcana as the s.link (so equipping a devil persona while doing the devil s.link)

2) answer right on every event

the bigger your score the less "you feel your relationship is going to become closer soon." i remember screwing up totaly a rank 9 event in persona 3 and i had to sit through 5-6 "you feel your relationship is going to become closer soon." thing before being able to finish it!
and yeah it's fucking stupid but there is nothing in this game where "hard" means "random enemy will explode in your face giving you an istant game over... hope your last save wasn't 1 hours ago" that isn't stupid

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Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 26, 2011, 05:13:56 PM
I want better dungeons, that's my main gripe about P3/P4. Large levels, more unique layouts and designs, environmental hazards like traps and puzzles, and stuff like that.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 26, 2011, 06:01:57 PM
Combat that doesn't revolve around dying first to find out what party members to bring along for the second try. 
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 06:36:06 PM
puss
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 06:41:39 PM
puss #2
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 06:50:50 PM
Because Persona 1 and 2 didn't have social links and social links is a formula that works for only a few games. That teet has been dried up a long time ago.

Make it a traditional rpg, no s-links. Pretty simple, been done.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 06:59:46 PM
Persona 1 and 2 came out in English. Well, half of P2, at least.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: magus on July 26, 2011, 07:10:34 PM
the first half of P2 got a fantranslation but it also got a psp port which is getting officialy translated this september and supposedly comes with a lot of enchancement (i hope they added the option to skip animation like in the second half of P2 because playing the game otherwise is a huge pain in the ass)

so maybe you should wait,anyway P2 is a somewhat rough game but i still love it,the character are completly awesome

(http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/megaten/persona2ep-4.png)

fact: this bit of dialogue alone is better than anything on persona 3/4

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"Oh, here's a new enemy I haven't seen before. Analysis doesn't tell me his weaknesses, but he has Garudyne (wind)... maybe I should attack with Ziodyne (electricity)? Fuck, he reflects that too? Alright, try ice. Fuck, he absorbed that. Try fire. Sweet, that hit him for decent damage, let's try it again. Shit, he's casting Last Resort."

*Game Over Screen*

"I'm going to look up that enemy in a FAQ. Oh, it was LIGHT he was vulnerable to. Light. Didn't I have a persona with Hamaeon? Fuck, I used him in a fusion, and he costs 20,000 to summon again. I only have 10,000 because the goddamn fox charged me all my money to heal my SP. Time to grind."

aaaaaahhhhh.... it makes me so happy to find someone that share my view about the combat being bullshit,everytime i tell that to someone they watch me as one of those crazy guy with a "THE END IS NEAR" sign
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 07:18:11 PM
i'm too used to memorizing enemy weaknesses and knowing to be on my toes for any of that to bother me with these games
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: magus on July 26, 2011, 07:18:44 PM
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Once you've figured out weaknesses and battles are clicking on all cylinders, the combat is amazing. Nothing more satisfying than hitting the weakness for 2 out of the 3 enemies onscreen, having Chie Galactic Punt the last one into space, then gang-rushing the two that are down.

and what joy there is in fighting a bunch of mooks who never take a turn? the one more system is absolutely awful,why even have random enemies if they never get a chance to act? it's no wonder that every boss in the game has no weakness

IT'S LIKE THE GAME ITSELF REALIZE THE SYSTEM IS BULLSHIT
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 07:23:16 PM
First turn you should always analyze.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 26, 2011, 07:33:07 PM
i'm too used to memorizing enemy weaknesses and knowing to be on my toes for any of that to bother me with these games

So basically you're too dumb for real strategy?
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 07:35:45 PM
uhhhhhh pre-planning is a strategy. go back to play your shitty first person shooters, scum.
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 26, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
Fallout 3 is a shooter?  ???
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 08:13:59 PM
> implying fallout 3 has strategy  :lol
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Damian79 on July 26, 2011, 08:20:16 PM
> implying fallout 3 has strategy  :lol

Playing a game on normal doent make you an expert on the game.   ;)
Title: Re: So what would you folks want in the inevitable Persona 5?
Post by: Himu on July 26, 2011, 08:59:05 PM
Usually what spells an enemy has is a big indicator, though.