THE BORE

General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Enl on August 17, 2010, 01:08:22 AM

Title: Ys VII
Post by: Enl on August 17, 2010, 01:08:22 AM
[youtube=560,345]lRQ5KDqE6dc?fs=1&hl=en_US[/youtube]

This shit be cummin out today!

 :hump

(http://imgur.com/HzDMd.jpg)(http://imgur.com/q9oVL.jpg)
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on August 17, 2010, 01:31:05 AM
Mine didn't ship >_<
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Trent Dole on August 17, 2010, 02:04:54 AM
Wish they made more shit like this on proper consoles. Also:
[youtube=560,345]EKUU9oFaqkY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on August 17, 2010, 04:35:22 AM
PSN release, please.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Joe Molotov on August 17, 2010, 05:52:54 AM
Ys VII  = do want
Limited Edition =  don't know if want
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Enl on August 17, 2010, 06:12:05 PM
Got my copy. Some quick impressions from the first hour of play:

- First town area seems larger than what's usually seen in Ys.
- Both Adol & Dogi move lightning quick. The jump button has been replaced by a dash/roll which makes traveling even quicker.
- Can quickly fast forward through dialogue and cutscenes by hold down O
- Music is good as always. Not as good as Felghana's so far but comparable to VI's
- Cloth map is huge. Was quite impressed by its size.
- 4 difficulty modes are unlocked from the start (easy, normal, hard, nightmare)
- Loading times are practically non existant (running off UMD). No shitty konami port here.
- Combat rocks! More like Felghana's than VI's (a good thing). Seems like there's going to be a good amount of special moves to get too.
- On top of a good combat system there is a weapon synthesis system where you mine loot drops from enemies to build your items (enemies drop about 3 - 6 items per kill)
- You can slash enemy carcass's for more loot!
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: magus on August 17, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
game is out on the web
guess i'll give it a spin later
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on August 17, 2010, 07:56:10 PM
Quote from: magus on August 17, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
game is out on the web
guess i'll give it a spin later


If there's one game worth spending your Euro currency on, it's Ys Seven.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: iconoclast on August 17, 2010, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: magus on August 17, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
game is out on the web
guess i'll give it a spin later


it works with whatever the current CFW is?
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: magus on August 17, 2010, 08:20:48 PM
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If there's one game worth spending your Euro currency on, it's Ys Seven.
if i had the euro to spend on it :-\
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it works with whatever the current CFW is?
it works on mine so i guess so...
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: demi on August 17, 2010, 08:48:48 PM
magus is such a cancer. Ys finally comes to America and the answer? pirate it
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Enl on August 17, 2010, 09:04:10 PM
Quote from: iconoclast on August 17, 2010, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: magus on August 17, 2010, 07:37:31 PM
game is out on the web
guess i'll give it a spin later


it works with whatever the current CFW is?

I'm running it off of 5.50 Prometheus v4.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: tiesto on August 17, 2010, 10:30:47 PM
Quote from: demi on August 17, 2010, 08:48:48 PM
magus is such a cancer. Ys finally comes to America and the answer? pirate it

Ys has been coming to America since the days of MS-DOS :P But yeah, no excuse to pirate it... bought my LE copy legally today, but want to play this on the big screen via component out, so I'm holding off playing till I get back home.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: magus on August 18, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
mmm... i'm not feeling it,combat is ultra button mashy,there is no cool shit to find (sure the monster drop loot and you can synthetize new weapon with it but it takes LOTS of loot and the improvement are marginal) and the only dungeon i played suffered from hallway syndrome

it really feels more like a lame-o version of diablo than something like alundra
bosses are cool tough
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Shino on August 18, 2010, 12:23:52 PM
I haven't actually played it yet, but I'm definitely grabbing the game.

My PSP has been getting a lot of attention lately.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on August 19, 2010, 10:00:28 PM
ys 7 is awesome :rock
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on August 20, 2010, 12:22:29 AM
for anyone else playing this, holding down R and pressing L right as you get attack does an instant/flash guard and makes your next attack a critical.  At least past the second boss the game doesn't mention it and it helps a lot.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 22, 2010, 07:10:32 PM
this game is like getting your fucking corn rimmed by an animu gene simmons

:bow falcom :bow2
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on August 23, 2010, 01:11:00 AM
Started playing this.  Just did the first hour and got past the first boss.  Good times.  Wasn't sure how I'd feel about the "control everyone!" gameplay concept but it seems pulled off really well. 

Love how far you jump forward when dashing.  Makes moving through towns a breeze.


and as always Ys music is so good.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on August 23, 2010, 02:03:59 AM
yeah, the multiple characters and the type you should use on the current enemy is done really well.  It's easy enough to tell just from the design of the enemy, but it still had yellow or blue numbers pop out letting you know if it is super effective or not at all.

If you're past the first boss, I think you might have missed it already.  I'm pretty sure the 7th quest can be missed if you don't do it early on; my guess is that it relates to the guy in the back room of the bar.  And just to mention it again (because the game doesn't), holding R and pressing L at the right time does your guard.  Not that useful with ordinary enemies, but really helps against bosses.

Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on August 23, 2010, 02:38:18 AM
7th quest?  I haven't even gotten the 1st quest!
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on August 23, 2010, 10:36:04 PM
this game gobbles down your battery so fast
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 23, 2010, 10:41:46 PM
yes, yes it does
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on August 24, 2010, 07:35:24 PM
Is there a quick travel between areas?  I'm only in the forest at the start, but it would be annoying if you have to traverse the whole overworld to go back and forth between towns/cities/villages
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Van Cruncheon on August 24, 2010, 07:38:18 PM
yes
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2010, 08:57:27 PM
Do the bosses stop feeling like endurance grinds at some point?  I played Oath in Felghana so long ago I can't remember if they were like this, but the first few bosses in Ys Seven just feel like endurance matches.  It just feels like you do so little damage outside your one big L button attack you get off once per fight.

Otherwise I'm digging the game, but while I like the patterns, the boss fights are kinda bugging me with their grindiness.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on August 25, 2010, 09:06:29 PM
Bosses telegraph their attacks big time.  They're probably the only times in the game when it is beneficial to guard and counter attack.  Pulling it off successfully gives you a bunch of points to use your skills plus makes every hit do critical damage for a brief time.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on August 25, 2010, 09:49:09 PM
Oh, guarding fills your meter and makes you do criticals?

Yeah, that'd probably make these fights go faster.  I've just been dodge rolling all the patterns and doing HOLD X -> release to build up meter and spamming skills.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on September 10, 2010, 11:35:14 PM
Just beat it.

This was a darn fine game.  Good dungeons, some awesome bosses, good synth/loot system.  A++ music like always.  Great graphics/art, especially in those last 5 sanctums.  Even the story didn't bother me cause I just went tap*tap*tap through it and it felt like an old-school 16bit storyline, which just led you from one dungeon to the next.


The final boss was INTENSE.  I screwed up bad on the 2nd part because it hit so hard with the flame hands so I used ALL MY ITEMS and beat it with 1 char alive and like 10hp.  So I started the Adol form with no items ^^;  After a try or two I thought it was still possible to do even without items, so I kept retrying and getting the patterns down and then I BEAT HIS ASS OH YEAH.  It was one of those "adol has 100hp, the boss has 1000hp, CAN YOU DO IT" endings and I did it and it faded to black and sooo good.

Took me about 16-17 hours total.  I skipped all the sidequests outside the titano hunts and didn't bother talking to npcs really since who cares about the story, I just wanted to slash things.  Just went from one dungeon to the next to the next and thought it was paced pretty well. 

Only complaint is that outside of the first few bosses and the last boss the game isn't that super challenging Ys that forces you to learn and dodge boss patterns.

Top 5 arpg materal here imo.  1.  Ys Oath, 2. Zelda LttP, 3. KH BBS, 4. Zelda OoT 5. Ys Seven,
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2010, 11:54:44 PM
I'm close to 25 hours in and I'm still not done.  I did do the side quests (except for the one you can skip because of bad design) and went after the best equipment but I'm skipping the story for the most part.

I'm actually hoping to finish it up tomorrow to start kingdom hearts or spider-man shattered dimensions ds.

I'm definitely looking forward to Oath based on what people say.  Hope the PSP version is solid because it sounds like everyone played it on PC.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2010, 12:12:27 AM
Since Ys' Seven controls great on psp, I think as long as the framerate is solid Oath will be just as amazing on psp as it was on pc.  I still haven't heard if the psp version is 30fps or 60fps.  Would be nice if it's 60fps, though probably still fine if it's 30fps.

It's basically like seven but with less story stuff and since you don't have party members and skills to learn it's far more balanced.  It's basically the DMC3 for arpgs.  Tons of boss fights and every one is intense, but well designed, forcing you to learn patterns and dodge them.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on September 11, 2010, 05:25:29 PM
Finished.  In total with side quests and all that it was 26 to 27 hours.  I think it's a bit long for an action rpg like this, but whatever.  Awesome game and so far my favorite handheld game this year (more than Peace Walker, have yet to play Kingdom Hearts, can't remember if I played anything worthwhile on the DS).

The final boss
spoiler (click to show/hide)
FUCK why are they making me use the shitty characters I never use! the entire game you at least have Adol.  Then I'm supposed to use characters that I haven't used in like 20 hours.  When you finally use Adol again it just the feeling of so much power.  You go from getting destroyed to murdering the shit out of this baddie.
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Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2010, 05:39:21 PM
haha, yeah the first part was the worst for me because I never used Dogi since the Hammer guy/chick had Damage Dealt x 1.25+ as her support which was way better.  Using Dogi as the fighter was so sloooow.  The green haired kid is alright but he was too weak to be the primary fighter for that battle.

The 2nd fight wasn't bad besides me playing really dumb and not noticing the hands crashing down on me was doing like 1000+ damage each time.  I used Geis a lot as my main when Adol was using a not-sword, so my Geis was a pretty good attacker.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2010, 09:53:58 PM
So what's the best party?

Currently using Adol (can't be removed anyway), Geis and Mishera. I might replace Mishera with Aisha or her guardian but still, not quite sure.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2010, 09:55:21 PM
Sounds about right.  I go for xp & power
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on November 17, 2010, 09:59:58 PM
Honestly I am just trying to end it ASAP, want to start with YS Oath already.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on November 17, 2010, 10:04:00 PM
roll roll roll
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on November 21, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
I think what I hate most about this game is the insane amount of money grinding, all these characters require new weapons for 40k, 50k...etc for that one new skill. Of course I can just skip that and continue on but no, my OCD won't let me.

and oh, cool plot twist near the end.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on November 21, 2010, 12:00:19 PM
spoiler about equipping teammates
spoiler (click to show/hide)
the only time you're required to use the B/C-teams is at the very end.  Just save the money and buy their best weapons then.  Technically their best weapons require creating in shops with rare parts.
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Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on November 21, 2010, 12:02:45 PM
Actually, so far the best weapons are from dungeon loot (they come with their final skill too.)

And like I said, I can't just skip buying a weapon, must get dem skills.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on November 26, 2010, 08:11:59 PM
"Please, Win"

Final boss then proceed to rape me non stop for 3 rounds, one is even solo, just my man Adol and some big ass tentacle and his rape lasers.

It was bullshit yet, satsfying. That's basically YS7. Boring, tired RPG shit till you reach the bossfights where the fun is to the max.
 
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on November 26, 2010, 08:52:17 PM
Yeah, Ys is all about the boss fights.  At least you're done and can play Oath which doesn't have any of the OCD grinding between badass bosses.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on November 26, 2010, 09:01:24 PM
Final boss made me buy some of the final weapons (ones you synth for 0 money). He was such a pain.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 28, 2010, 01:39:59 PM
If I liked Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7, but didn't much care for Final Fantasy 7, will I like this one?
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: magus on November 28, 2010, 01:45:10 PM
did you like dragon quest 7? what about megaman 7?
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on November 28, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
I kinda liked DQ7, but in the end didn't really have the time/patience for it.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on November 28, 2010, 03:10:17 PM
Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on November 28, 2010, 01:39:59 PM
If I liked Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7, but didn't much care for Final Fantasy 7, will I like this one?
Do you like intense boss fights? if yes then you will love this.

You will love it anyway, I can tell since we are both MSfags.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Enl on November 28, 2010, 11:26:22 PM
If you can appreciate something fun like Friday the 13th VII while at the same time thought Harry Potter 7 was too slow then this is the game for you!
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Himu on November 28, 2010, 11:31:10 PM
Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on November 28, 2010, 01:39:59 PM
If I liked Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7, but didn't much care for Final Fantasy 7, will I like this one?

:lol
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on December 07, 2010, 04:16:00 PM
[youtube=560,345]EKBUn4mmi4w[/youtube]

I miss this game already.
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on December 07, 2010, 04:20:57 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb_OTx6i5M8[/youtube]

The riff that starts in at 1:51 is my favorite music in the game <3
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: Bebpo on December 07, 2010, 04:23:31 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1II2E7OjY[/youtube]

Ys music  :)
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on December 07, 2010, 05:03:13 PM
[youtube=560,345]vQIDP3pIxVI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: cool breeze on December 07, 2010, 05:25:43 PM
the music in ys 7 gets you so pumped up
Title: Re: Ys VII
Post by: MCD on December 07, 2010, 05:43:35 PM
ADOL CHRISTIN